Geeky TV Shows, v. 2010.2
No, it’s not quite the 24-hour Doctor Who Buffy Torchwood Channel brought to you with Glee. But close enough.
Date: June 23, 2010
Categories: The Universe, Things We like
Wednesday, 24 April 2024
Life, the universe, pies, hot-pink bunnies, world domination, and everything
No, it’s not quite the 24-hour Doctor Who Buffy Torchwood Channel brought to you with Glee. But close enough.
Date: June 23, 2010
Categories: The Universe, Things We like
251 on the last thread ( Piggy ): Thought jinx.
I can’t wait until The Big Bang comes out this Saturday!!
Drat, I was hoping it would slip under GAPA radar long enough to reach a thousand posts. Oh well.
My friend May is currently throwing a fit because she “wants David Tennant sooooo ****ing baddd”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Then I told May that her priorities are wrong, and Rose is so much better.
meanwhile Amy is even better than Rose. She’s attractive and a bit more intelligent to start with. Also funnier. And she’s been saving the doctor’s ass since the first few eps.
XD Yeah, but I’m only on Series Three. I love Rose. I found Donna Noble pretty obnoxious, but Martha Jones seems to be about as good as Rose. (I’ve only seen the first episode and half of the second.)
whaaat. rose is cool but martha is super whiny and donna is a [How about choosing some other word to describe her awesomeness? –Admin.] she is obnoxious the first time you see her, but she gets -way- cool. amy is my fav though, i so want to be amy pond
you know, I just finished watching series 3 and I still don’t see the martha-as-whiny thing. I’ve watched 3 or 4 episodes with donna, though, and she still gets on my nerves.. I think it’s the dithering.
Amy is teh rox0rs.
i guess it’s not so much -whining- necessarily, but she totally throws herself at the doctor. in a pathetic way, not in a hilarious seductive-amy-pond way. she’s all HURT because FEELINGS and he won’t take a HINT wahwahwah
I loved Donna, though. She’s the only companion in the new series who hasn’t had any romance with the Doctor at all. She was his friend.
But I do agree that Amy is awesome. “Oh, are you all Mr. Grumpy Face today?”
Come along, Pond.
*luaghs*
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why is Rory dead? I liked him so much more than Mickey. *sniffles* I suspect they might use the whole crack in time thing to essentially make it so they aren’t accountable in future seasons and also torchwood for anything they do this season. And since no one remembers the whole Dalek thing, maybe (my mom hopes) they can use this oppertonity to reserect the whole torchwood cast.
By the way, does this whole “rory doesn’t exist” thing mean that Amy’s going to go for the Doctor. Cause I mean, yeah, she choose rory, but he doesn’t exist any more.
Cold Blood.
you don’t kill off a character for no reason. he’s back in the season finale, count on it.
Good writers don’t kill off a character for no reason, that is.
-cough- Rowling, anyone?
-dives for cover-
XD Agreed.
Hers weren’t necessarily without reason, though. I mean, I don’t like that people died, but….It wouldn’t have been realistic if everyone had escaped unscathed. There are casualties in war. Always.
If RTD were still around, I’d say you were very wrong. He killed characters off (on Torchwood, anyway), for absolutely no reason whatsoever….
does anyone watch the IT crowd? new season just started
also, SFTDP but NEW FUTURAMA STARTS TONIGHT
I AM INSANELY EXCITED
WATCHING RIGHT NOW
YEAAAAAAAH
What time is Doctor Who on ( on BBC America, I guess ) and on what day of the week?
I dunno about BBC America, but on BBC it’s on Saturdays around 18:00 GMT which is I believe noon central time. I usually watch it online – there’s websites that will stream it as it plays.
Must remember to have my sister buffer it for me while I’m at work tomorrow…. Big Bang is airing at 18.05 tomorrow, so that’s 9:05 here, so…..It should easily be available around 11am. And then it’ll have *plenty* of time to buffer, and when I get home from work at 4….I can watch it, without the aggravation of waiting painfully for it to buffer. *jumps up and down happily*
It’s usually available at 5 PM here, but I won’t be home until about 9 or 10. Bah, bad timing.
On BBC America, it’s Saturday’s at 9…ish? Maybe 10… PM, of course. And I’m pretty sure you live in the same time zone as me.
I live in Massachusetts.
I believe it’s Saturday at 9:00. Or at least, that’s what I think it is. One of my comic book/DW obsessed 45 year-old friends also watches it then.
I know a lot of 45 year old Comic Book/Doctor Who geeks, don’t I?
Okay, thanks, Keifz!
Just watched Once More With Feeling for the first time. I don’t think any more needs to be said.
Gotta love the musical episodes!
Every single night
the same arrangement
I go out and fight the fight
More does need to be said, actually.
First: How did Whedon get this stuff past the censors? I mean, “Under Your Spell” may be extremely touching and heartfelt, but… we all know what that pause between syllables means. Not to mention “I’ll Never Tell” and its… last-moment word switch. Did they just think “Nobody could possibly be this audacious, so we’re probably reading too much into it and it’s really all perfectly innocent?”
I don’t have any idea what you’re talking about, but I think basically anything can get past the censors as long as it’s all implication. Because most small children and people you need to worry about with censors aren’t going to get it. Granted, the small children probably wouldn’t get it anyway, whereas the somewhat older children can probably get the implications so really censors are completely pointless.
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SERIOUSLY YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT SEASON SIX IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET SERIOUSLY PEOPLE DIE FOR REAL PERMANENTLY
Aside from musical awesomeness, though, I’m not a big fan of Six so far.
The Buffy/Spike relationship is quite a clever dark reflection of Buffy/Angel, and it’s in character for both of them, but something about it just disturbs me. Worse, Willow seems to have entirely lost her common sense, and the “magic=ADDICTIVE DRUGS WHICH ARE BAD” thing is about as subtle as a hammer to the face. (no, not that. Doctor Horrible fans, get your minds out of the gutter)
SFTDP: and the Trio, as far as villainy goes, are about as threatening as a cocoa puff.
1 hour left!!!
YAAAAAAAAY!
Haha! For once I saw the episode before the spoilers started rolling in.
Speaking of Futurama? Oh, yes, I watched it too. It was actually my introduction to the show, though.
It must have made very little sense. You should watch the previous five seasons. They’re fantastic.
Hum.
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-twiddles thumbs-
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This is going to a be a long wait.
In other, non-spoilerific news, actually I’d better put a spoiler in just in case I actually spill something important:
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I am quite pleased with how the episode turned out. Aw happy yay. Also, there were hardly any Daleks and Cybermen. And Rory’s still around, which makes me happy, though to tell the truth I always knew they wouldn’t really kill him off, even though he was plastic.
Hm. Do you think the “Lone Centurion” thing explains the confusing nametag from the first episode? I thought for sure it would but then it never came up and I guess thinking back it doesn’t make much sense and it probably really was just a production error. Hum.
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
Well, slightly different.
I want to watch some of the later old series–fourth and fifth doctors, to be specific, which is not very late but later than the first doctor anyway, but I really have no clue where to begin. I don’t think they did story arcs in the same way we do now, but I don’t want to jump in in the middle for fear i should miss something important. Is this likely to happen?
Big Bang Theory (not the same as Big Bang)!
Wow, no real spoilers for Big Bang? Cuz I’ve only got about two pages of reaction crammed into a word doc from last night when I watched the ep. ((I was no longer connected to the internet, having migrated to my bedroom to watch it, so I couldn’t post it last night.))
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OH. I mean, well, I’m a bit fuzzy on some of the details, it’s all a bit too complex for my mind to grasp on one viewing (a bit like Silence in the Library and the second part of that, in that regard). An issue that I have had before with Moffat’s episodes, which tends to result in a slightly less good initial feeling of them than I would otherwise. I sometimes feel my sister’s inability to follow plots has r ubbed off on me. But overall, wow.
For starters: Jakob I’m going to kill you. I seriously bought your comment about how we were going to be even more in suspense after watching this ep than we were before. Or, maybe, I guess, I just interpreted it differently than you intended. I mean, there is suspense, but certainly not the sort I took your comment to mean. I took it to mean the Doctor’s imprisonment, Amy’s death, and River’s eminent death were not going to be resolved, and that we’d be left in the dark as to the fate of them all. Toward the end, I kept expecting us not to have the Doctor arrive back, and for us to be left not knowing how his absence from this world was going to be resolved. Sure, the whole reason for the TARDIS’s explosion wasn’t resolved, but that’s minor in the face of the rest of it, to me. But on the other hand, yeah, we do have the suspense in that next season looks to be flammy.
Things I remember thinking throughout the ep:
When Amy was in the Pandorica, when Amelia opened it, I swear my mouth dropped open, as I thought (and perhaps said), “what the cake?†in slightly less appropriate terms. In the split second, my mind flashed back in a review of all the theories I’d read on how Amy might be the Doctor, etc, etc.
Also, I was loving the stone Daleks. Pwnsome.
The Doctor’s hat thingy. A fez, I believe he said? Anyway, loved it. Even if for whatever reason all I could think of was monkeys whenever I saw him with it on. There’s something about that color hat thing and monkeys. Hang on, those whatever they’re called monkeys, the little ones in outfits, they wear those hats, don’t they?
And for whatever reason I kept having this oddest feeloing of déjà vu at random moments. Like when they were on the rooftop, right before the Doctor grabbed the satellite dish. I feel like I’d seen that before, but maybe I’d just seen spoiler photos of tonight’s ep and forgotten that I’d seen spoiler pics.
RORY. Oh my god, when he stayed behind with the Pandorica, I think I fell in love with him a bit. And when he punched the Doctor, oh my god, that was brilliant. I loved him for that, too.
Hnag on, though. Is he still a Nestene creation, an Auton? Or with the whole Pandorica creating the Big Bang 2, is he now a real Rory, not an Auton Rory? I’m confused on how that all works. And they both have got their memories, both of being with the Doctor, and of their “real†life, then? Like, they’ve got the memory of all Season 5 and that back history, and then starting after the Doctor explodes the Pandorica, they’ve got the new whole life memory????
Also…..In “Father’s Dayâ€, the Doctor was telling Rose it would completely tear space and time if she touched her baby self. Amy touched her younger self several times,w ith no apparent adverse effect. How’s that work?
And then when we were at Amy’s house, and we had a real good shot of the door, I remembered what someone had mentioned about it looking like the door in the Lodger, and noticed that “holy cake, it DOES, it’s the same door.†but apparently not? I need a screen shot of ‘em side by side, or something. :/
When the Doctor was reversing time stream, omg, when he told Amy to remember what he told her when she was seven, it wasn’t the Doctor from then, it wasn’t the Doctor currently on the Byzantium, it was the Doctor from the future. OMG, this is getting to complex for my poor mind. Especially as he hadn’t even told her what she was supposed to remember yet, had he? She was supposed to remember the speech he gave her a few minutes later (in his stream), and many years ago, in her stream. Yikes. That made me tear up, when he was telling her good bye.
But Amy and Rory being married. I love that. I absolutely love the “new†(for New Who, anyway) Doctor-Companion relationship dynamic. How he’s got two Companions (I’ve got to start thinking of Rory as a companion, and not just as “the Companion’s boyfriendâ€), and neither of them are involved or wanting to be seriously involved with him. Sure, Amy flirts, but it’s not like a “OMG I’m in love with the Doctor thingâ€. I’ve only just realized that that was starting to get rather old, and am glad it’s not going that way again. And I love the two Companions being married, and I really love “new†Rory.
And OMG the Doctor dancing. Oh dear god, that was the funniest thing *ever*.
In short? Some of the technical details lost me, but overall, great ep. Not just some of the (albeit highly entertaining) silliness of previous seasons. And I liked the flash back to Eleventh Hour, with the whole “GERONIMO†message.
Oh, wow, almost forgot….Had just settled into bed, and forgot to add this to my list of things I’ve compiled in this word doc to post tomorrow when I get up. XD
River and the Doctor. There little conversation there at the end, sure seemed to strongly imply that River was not only married, but married to the Doctor. And that the Doctor would be experiencing said marriage soon. Which, to me, doesn’t quite make sense, as the Doctor really doesn’t know River that well yet. Why would he marry her when he doesn’t know her that well yet? And we never did learn yet who the “good [or was it great?] man†she killed was, did we? :/
And something that I meant to say, but forgot to type in until now: Amy Pond. Throughout all 4 seasons with CE and DT, I really liked Rose, she was by far my favorite Companion. Martha was alright, but she would never be Rose, and Donna….Donna just rather grated on my nerves, and I really never cared for her that much, although I certainly felt quite bad for her the way things turned out at the end of Series 4. but Amy? OMG, forget Rose, Amy is just….Wow. Amy has definitely claimed “favorite companion” status in my mind, I think.
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It had a very emotional feel to it, different than RTD’s. Kind of like a silent mourning feel. Very nice.
The Stone Dalek, Rory, River, Amy, and the Doctor were all awesome. I love the wedding pics on BBC’s site with the Doctor’s suit!
Sorry about the whole suspense thing.
Was Moffat trying to outdo RTD’s End of TIme 2 regeneration scene? It was kind of the same thing, with the Doctor saying goodbye, except so much better.
Christmas. Egypt. Monsters. RIVER. Moffat confirmed we’ll learn everything next year.
I really hope the 2 companion thing stays for a while. Auton Rory with his gun, Amy, and the Doctor? Super awesomeness.
The Reapers did not come because they were a.) erased by the universe ending b.) Amy and Amelia were from different timestreams, and the Doctor can do that sort of thing or c.) Moffat doesn’t care about those silly killers of paradoxes.
I should watch it all again, cause the video was glitchy and I probably missed some stuff. Like the Doctor dancing.
Silence will fall!!
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I agree- this whole series in general has had a completely different feel to RTD. For some reason, even the colors seem different. There aren’t any highly saturated reds, yellow, or oranges. Everything is between fleshy, blue, gray, and dark pink. Meanwhile, RTD has always had a much less bleak look about things. Rose, the first episode, has bright pinks in the store windows. The End Of The World had that bright orange sun. I might be overanalyzing, but I think that this series has looked bleaker.
I don’t think the married Rory is a auton- he was reborn in the replacement universe without the Doctor.
This is probably the first time that a story arc has continued to be essentially the same throughout multiple series- the next series will be about who was controlling the TARDIS, that deep voice. (My personal opinion is Omega, from the old series.)
Personally, I think that the stone Dalek was a bit silly. Why didn’t the stone Cyberman or Roman auton come to life? But it was pretty cool anyway.
I loved how in the time loop, River’s repeating herself over and over again. And then suddenly you see the Doctor standing there.
And I loved the goodbye at the very end. The Doctor’s like “It’s time to say goodbye.” And I’m like “NOOOOO! Amy, you can’t leave! You’re my favorite companion of the ones I’ve seen! More than Martha!” And then Amy’s like “Goodbye world!” And I’m like “I will now set up a Shrine to Stephen Moffat.”
Anybody want to join in my Stephen Moffat worshiping?
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I really liked it! It had a happy ending! I don’t know why but I always expect it to be sad and depressing and crap.
When Rory said he was going to say I d’aww’d so hard. I love him so much for that, and everything else he does for Amy. So glad they’re married now.
I LOVED the bit with the fez, when they shot it. Woo teamwork! Maybe he’s using it so he can pretend to be ginger.
Re:Stone Dalek: I just interpreted it as a Dalek had remained with the Pandorica and fossilized, but the creature inside it survived.
Overall: happy with the finale! It’s an okay one to not have ages and ages to wait for what comes next. If I’d had to wait like this for the season after Rose, or Donna…
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*raises hand*
The Dalek did not exist, an echo of it remained, which was the stone Dalek. The Pandorica opened. The light from it hit the Dalek. The Dalek was brought back into existence because, in the Pandorica, are spores of life, for everything in the universe. It is the ultimate prison, it has to keep whatever is in it alive. So, it is a restoration field. Because that Dalek is so awesome, it managed to be restored and fight off it’s nonexistence. Until “it died”. And this is how the Doctor saved the universe.
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Enc — interesting you should say that about the bleakness because I think Moffat is a kind-hearted optimist to the core. He seems to love his central characters too much to kill them off — although he sure puts them through a lot before the rescue. Think about his episodes from previous seasons: “Everybody lives!” as the Doctor said. (Maybe not every one every time, but the ones we love most.
I’m not complaining, though. His happy endings aren’t pasted on; he plays fair. (*is definitely a Steve Moffat fan — and a Matt Smith fan, Amy fan, Rory fan*)
Also, Enc, I really like your observation about the colors. His palette does seem to be strikingly different — though he does throw in bright colors now and then to good effect. His vision is more atmospheric, sometimes his episodes make me think of ghost stories told ’round the campfire.
Have you noticed how the color scheme works with Amy’s hair? At times she’s the brightest color in the frame. I doubt that’s coincidence.
Luna — Amy and Amelia aren’t truly the same person, are they? They belong to different timelines, for one thing. Amy is an anomaly.
> “How did you stay out of trouble?”
> “Successfully.”
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Rebecca–Yeah….yeah, I suppose they aren’t really the same person.
Enc–That’s what I figured, that Rory who Amy married wasn’t actually an Auton, and that that was just a memory for him, of his life before the rewind, the first time he lived (or, second, really, since he lived as the real original Rory before that). Which is good, because otherwise, that would be a bit awkward of a marriage,w ith Amy aging and Rory perpetually staying the same. And with the potential for the Nestene Consciousness to take him over again….
And I had another thought. Wouldn’t it be flammy, Amy and Captain Jack in an episode together? Amy with her saucy, flirty attitude toward the Doctor (and probably toward jack too), and Jack with his whole personality. That would be…potential for the most hilarious thing ever…
Oh gosh. You just gave me an idea for the best slash fanfiction ever. Doctor/Amy/Jack. *evil grin*
That’s not really slash, unless Doctor/Jack is involved. That’s just a really weird (but plausible) love triangle.
True.
I recently was rewatching Bad Wolf. I paused at Jack’s scene and oggled. Luna should be happy.
Doctor/Amy/Jack would have Doctor/Jack going. It would be awful hard for it not to. Just saying.
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just saw it. haven’t read anyone else’s comments, just wanted to throw in a OH MY GOD REMEMBER HOW I LOVE STEVE MOFFAT AND HE IS MINESIES FOREVAR? that’s right. you all wish you could have him now, don’t you? i LOVE how everything tied together, even stuff i didn’t even notice, it was brilliant! absolutely fantastic! and the fez was hilarious. and river is such a word-the-GAPAs-will-just-zap. and I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT WHY MUST I WAIT :'(
it was SO depressing…but then funny! and sad! and the whole time you were like “YES! that bit! YES!” but also “oh my god NO!” and also “oh man i am seriously intrigued as to how they’re going to pull this off” and “oh of COURSE that’s BRILLIANT”
and i love how nothing is EVER what you expect it to be. like the first part, i was like “okay it’s the doctor in there” and then NO, it was the doctor going IN there. this time i was like “okay here comes the doctor” and NO, it’s amy pond in there! :O
also i love rory forevers. and i still want to be amy pond. maybe i will actually do halloween this year just to be her
Oh, Eboo. I love you. You seriously sum up the episode perfectly. And your summary is short, sweet, and funny. *hugs*
aww, i love you too *hugsback*
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Would you like to join my religion worshiping Stephen Moffat?
sorry dude, if anyone’s gonna be in charge of that religion it’s me
Fine. You can be highest priestess. I’ll be a high priest.
What about me?? I walk around quoting him sometimes, because he’s so awesome. (I get DWM! Squee! Actually, I don’t have a subscription but I do buy it at the bookstore every time I see a new one.)
“They’re so nice, Americans, they always try to make you feel at home.”
-Steven Moffat
“Steven Moffat has never met a giraffe!”
-me
I’ve started to watch Doctor Who! I started at S01E01, as many people warned me against.
Everyone tells me I’m like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory, but I don’t know. I do believe I have emotions… maybe I just never show it.
Season 1, ep 1, as in “Unearthly Child”, with the First Doctor (William Hartnell)? Or season 1, ep 1, as in “Rose”, with the Ninth Doctor (Chris Eccleston)?
Either way, welcome to the wonderful world of Doctor Who. (Personally, I suggest New Who, and the a return to Classic Who)
No, the former.
Thanks! (That’s what everyone else said, too, but I ignored pretty much everyone’s advice. )
Gotcha. I’ve watched the first three seasons of Classic Who. I only have a couple of eps left with William Hartnell.
Now that is my incentive to catch up to you. I’m procrastinating on the Web Planet.
Oh, god, yeah, if that’s the one I think, I procrastinated on it for *ages*. Ant things and bee things?
Yes… Alright, I’ll finish it today.
It’s Old Ian!
*shudder* Yeah, that one took me forever to get through, it was so painful. I’ve currently got half of a serial (Smugglers)–that’s two eps, in this case–left before I’ve finished the entirety of the First Doctor’s run.
man i am so behind you guys. i only just finished the edge of destruction. (yeah, i took a break from it for a while…)
I watched that one on Christmas Eve. Or started it Christmas Eve, but it was buffering terribly, and I don’t think I actually got it finished until Christmas Day or thereabouts. Probably after watching the first part of End of Time.
I haven’t watched that one yet. It’s just…so…grainy. And choppy. It’s hard to watch the black and white ones online.
i think online you can find color-filled versions. i remember once i got impatient and thought “i’ll just watch this one online” and i went and found it and was like “it’s in COLOR? whaaat?”
What’s Who’s Doctor Who?
Just “The Doctor.” (ehehehehehe)
Really, though, it’s a British TV show about a time traveling alien, which is by turns hilariously cheesy, ridiculously awesome, and brain-meltingly scary. Google for more details.
Often in the same episode. It’s also been running since the sixties, with some interruption.
It’s a sci-fi show about a time-traveling Doctor that has a huge fan following on MB.
Epicness in television show form.
So you remember that I posted that I was introduced to Doctor Who.
I went back to the beginning of this season and am watching it in order this time. With my sister. I managed to introduce her to DW, as well.
I’m up to Victory of the Daleks. We got about half way through it and it froze, so we’re waiting for it to finish buffering again.
Good times.
The Big Bang. Absolutely epic finish to the season, I must say. But there’s one thing that puzzles me.
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During the time when the Doctor had never existed, why wasn’t the Earth a fuming wasteland battled over by half a dozen different alien cultures? (The Doctor’s stopped so many invasions that that’s the only result possible from his absence.)
I think it was restarted from the point where Earth was in the collapsing reality. There weren’t any aliens in that time on Earth, so it wasn’t being battled over. The Doctor was just wiped partly- he had existed, but didn’t anymore. His effects are still there, but nobody remembers him.
I think it’s because of Amy’s memories–in her mind, the earth was “normal”, and that’s what it was being held together by.
Just a hypothesis though, and filled with holes now that I think about it : P
21- Yeah, that occurred to me too. Weird.
Currently watching “Robot.” That’s the Fourth Doctor’s first episode and may I say how much I love the Fourth Doctor? I can see why he’s so many people’s favorite.
He’s iconic. Jelly baby?
Yes, please!
I am in love. Tomorrow I will watch more. Today I will knit the scarf.
I am disappointed to learn that jelly babies are a UK thing and consequently not likely to found in the local candy store, which rather spoils my hopes and dreams of wandering around in full costume offering people jelly babies. Alas!
Internet.
There are British specialty stores in many cities. Maybe you can find one.
Oh, darn. I would love to see and/or do that. Or perhaps wander around in the Fifth Doctor’s costume and see how many people inquire about the celery.
I learned just prior to watching the episode with Van Gough that the actress who plays Amy was also in an episode of Who during Donna’s season…she was the girl of the main family in the episode with mount vesuvius. Also, I really liked the Van Gough episode, even more so because what the doctor says to Amy at the end of the episode about life being made up of good things and bad things struck me as extremely true….this happens sometimes in TV shows, more in Who than in some other shows yet I’m still surprised when it does. Its sort of a reminder that yeah, Who is sci-fi, but it’s also a lot more. No one in my family really loves sci-fi, but we all love Who.
If that needed a spoiler warning, I appologise…..
no, Karen Gillan wasn’t Evelina, she was the soothsayer. If you look really closely at the soothsayer you can see the red hair
Oh yeah, that makes more sense now. You are indeed correct. *bows*
NOO I CANNOT ACCESS THE DOCTOR DANCES I AM DYING
Oh, that sucks. Empty Child and Doctor Dances are two of my favourite eps. And not just because of a certain smoking hot rogue Time Agent, either, mind you.
Are you sure it wasn’t just his presence? Honestly, he might have been the reason I wasn’t burying my face the whole ep…
Actually, yes, I am sure it wasn’t just his presence. I wasn’t a mad Jack fangirl yet. I mean, I appreciated his hotness, but….Wasn’t OMG JACK yet.
I thought it was a brilliant ep, all suspenseful and OMG, what’s going to happen?
25- HAHAHAHAHA I mock your pain. That sucks though. Really.
25 – I know it’s on YouTube, because that’s where I had to watch it. Even if it was in two-minute clips.
The Big Bang was utterly, flamablamablously, epically, amazingly brilliant. I want to join the Steven Moffat cult.
my irl friends kept getting really confused when i went on about doctor who (especially because it’s classic who) [Snipped. The rest of this comment was in the same league as handing out screennames. –Admin.]
i did no such thing! i just said i had a thing! in fact i specifically avoided giving a screenname. maybe snippable, sure, but definitely not in the same league as handing out screennames. i’ll be over here being mildly insulted now
Perhaps the comment was clumsily worded. After a long day of continually rebooting a misbehaving computer, the brain is not exactly in top form. But the point is, you did invite people to search for you at a particular location. That was close enough.
Is Ebeth being Ebeth again?
She’s so good at it, too.
Ooooohhh Ebeth…
Wait, don’t tell me. Dailymotion is… blocked?! No. Classic, I’ll find a way! Don’t worry!
Wha….? Daily Motion is blocked? Like, just on your computer or some such, or what? Cuz that’s where I’d been watching ’em all thus far…. :/
My school’s internet…
Contrary to what a certain friend keeps telling me, I have decided to watch Doctor Who from the beginning. As in the 1963 beginning. I’ve made it through 3 serials so far. The only thing that bothers me is that so many episodes are missing… (curse you, BBC.)
You can find reconstructions for most all of the missing episodes. At least for the First Doctor, and presumably for the Second (and any others, but I think only the second) as well.
I hope so. So many of the Second Doctor’s serials are either partly or completely missing.
As far as I know, the Third Doctor’s serials are all there but some are only in black & white.
I can’t find Galaxy 4! What about the Chumblies? Were you able to watch any of Season 3 except The Ark, The Gunfighters, and The War Machines?
Missing episodes? I haven’t encountered that yet.
Why yes, I am up rather late/early on my birthday.
They’re only on the old series, before Eccleston. I think that they are only 1st Doctor serials, right?
First and second.
First and Second. I just finished Marco Polo, which was a reconstruction. which is really a shame, because it was a fantastic story
*returns from death*
I just started watching Dr Who a month ago.
Welcome back from death! How is it?
Hurrah! From the very beginning, or the new series?
By the way, it’s “Doctor Who”, not Dr Who, or any other variation. *is nitpicky* Sorry.
Just the new series, yah. And I know it’s that, but I’m lazy.
Well, good for you.
I just watched my first eppy of Red Dwarf. Anybody here seen it?
I have.
Yes! I have! Some of the episodes later on are VERY entertaining. I’ve gotten as far as Terrorform.
It’s cold outside, there’s no kind of atmosphere…
I’m all alone, more or less!
Let me fly, far away from here! Far, far, far.
i’ve seen part of it. julia was yelling at me for ages to watch it and i finally started and then exams happened and i haven’t gotten back around to it yet
Like…two episodes. It’s hilarious though.
It’s awesome.
Okay, so here at Yale, there are various small blue metal boxes on poles around the city that contain an emergency button so that you can get help if you run into trouble. At orientation, the Dean said something like “So if you need help, look for a blue box!”
And I giggled so hard. Look what you’ve done to me, Luna!
Oh, you know you like it.
Oh, those… They were at pretty much every university I visited. Never thought of Doctor Who though. Also, I am sad to say that I was playing Contact last night with a pretty large group and we had “time” as the start of the word, and I said “the Doctor is a…”, and nobody got time lord.
I would have fallen over laughing. “Look for a blue box!”
XD And usually the Doctor does help.
At least I wasn’t afraid to meet The Master… of our dorm.
I want to start watching – they have it on On Demand, but where should I start? The old B&W ‘episode one’, or the NEW series? Or…or…oh, god! I need a blue box!
I’d recommend starting with the new series, then returning to the beginning with the “old B&W ‘episode one'”.
I’m watching Doctor Who, “The Lodger”. Did anyone else notice that there’s a Van Gogh pamphlet on the fridge in the beginning, when they zoom into that pic of the room mates? I thought that was so cool…
Yup. *foreshadowing*
No, that’s aftershadowing. “The Lodger” is after “Vincent and The Doctor”.
just started watching garth marenghi’s darkplace. it’s fantastic it’s a parody of bad 80’s horror shows. has a couple actors from the IT crowd too
Who here has actually watched Star Trek?
I have! Most of TOS, first 3 seasons of TNG, and very few of VOY and DS9, and none of ENT.
Sulu’s my favorite character ever. He’s awesome.
How can you say that?! Spock!
me. all of TOS, part of TNG, one episode of DS9, and five of the movies (first four plus the newest one)
Me! I’ve seen most of TOS and ENT, plus the latest movie. Still, I prefer Andromeda by a landslide. Also created by Gene Roddenberry, but much funnier and teh pwnage.
I have! Most of TNG, and a little TOS.
Yeah! Music adds a lot to Classic Who! Space museum had some good cliffhangers. Onto the Chase!
I don’t know if there considered geeky, but I love Pawn Stars and American Pickers
I watch those too. Although my brother is much more obsessive than I am.
Have you guys seen the Sunnydale Tweets website?
I have now. It would seem to be around season 4… doesn’t look terribly interesting, though.
i love Glee. Does anyone else here watch it?
Um. read the last thread. or the description of this one. it’s sort of a thing around here.
oh god i meant GLEE is sort of a thing, not reading. just realized that could be interpreted in a totally female-canine way
I see.
Luna – Thank you, I shall. As soon as I finish season 1 of Lost….and then all the subsequent seasons. Just like I did with 24. My mom got sooooo mad about the library fines
About to watch “Seeing Red.”
Into the abyss…
Well, I watched Vampires in Venice, my first Doctor episode in a motel room with my dad, on demand. I’m sure you can find out what each of those phrases refer to. I’ve decided to watch all these TV episodes to catch up-I’ve finished Firefly, and I finished Season 3 of Buffy. Is Dollhouse any good?
Hmm, not so sure about Dollhouse. I saw a few episodes and it didn’t really seem great or anything. But after you watch Doctor Who I would reccomend watching Torchwood, which is a spinoff of DW (notice it is also a… crap whatdoyacallem… the letters are the same but mixed up) and very good.
I am currently on TW, finished DW and Firefly a little while ago
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I hear Dollhouse takes a sharp uptick in quality a few episodes into the first season, but I’ve never watched it.
YES! I FINISHED WATCHING THE ENTIRE NEW SERIES OF DOCTOR WHO!!
Beetles, I’ve been wanting to ask this for a while: who’s your avatar?
So… I took up Buffy again a week or so ago in mid season three and am now starting season 5. Actually, I’m just on the creepy episode that ends season 4. One of my all-time faves
Restless is a work of genius.
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
Plus the Exposition Song.
Oh my god, that line made me laugh so hard, because it was so totally out of nowhere, and yeah.
Whedon apparently said that because that episode was so full of symbolism and foreshadowing, he wanted to put in a completely random element that would make it dreamlike. Thus, the Cheese Man.
The cheese man was epic. Somehow, en could have been the first watcher XD
Okay, reproduction of my favorite short fan-fic ever, Conversation in a White House Parking Lot: http:// www. fanfiction. net/s/1374536/1/ Conversation_in_a_White_House_bParking_b_bLot_b
Obviously, even the idea of a Buffy/West Wing crossover is funny…
Oh. Oh. My. god.
So, rewatching Doctor Who, because it’s pwnsome, and I dont’ want to work on my vet school app at the moment, because I need to, so therefore I’m not.
But, anyway, I’m currently watching “Army of Ghosts”, episode 12 of Season 2. And The Doctor was in, talking to Yvonne Hartman, and she just made the comment that she’s a people person, it’s important to know everyone’s names.
****SEMI SPOILERIFIC FOR THE END OF TIME BUT NOT REALLY****
And the Doctor goes: “Have you got anyone called Alonso?” And, obviously, if you hadn’t seen any later episodes of DW, or, more to the point, a very certain later episode–The End of Time, Part 2–the episode aired on New Year’s Day 2010…..This would mean nothing to you, just the Doctor being quirky and confusing. But Alonso. Alonso was the name of the cute young guy on the space station that the Doctor introduced a still-mourning Captain Jack to. Captain Jack, who is the head of Torchwood 3. Makes me wonder. Is Alonso supposed to have already been working for Torchwood when The Doctor hooked him and Jack up, or….After meeting Alonso and having a fun time with him that night….When Jack returns to Torchwood–which he will be doing, since a new Torchwood is in the works–was (is?) RTD intending to have Alonso on the new Torchwood team?
Because, really, I’m having a hard time thinking that it might just be a coincidence, myself. I mean, Alonso is not *that* common of a name. And the Doctor knew the bloke’s name when he introduced him to Jack via the napkin……”His name’s Alonso.”
Sorry for the rambles, it was just a total lightbulb moment for me….And OH MY GOD. Like when rereading HP books, and you pick up on something that totally is nothing at the time, but then a few books later, is everything….Like the gold locket in Grimmauld place, for instance.
I think that has more to do with “allons-y Alonso,” though..
Yes. He explained earlier in Army of Ghosts that he wanted to meet someone named Alonso so he could say “Allons-y, Alonso”. The Doctor first met Alonso in Voyage of the Damned, where he did say “Allons-y Alonso, and that was how he knew Alonso’s name in The End of Time. But Luna, you’re right that Alonso could be on the new Torchwood Team, and the Doctor could have known that in Army of Ghosts, and his line could be foreshadowing that, as well. That would be really cool if it were.
It’s probably a really bad sign that I read that and thought it said “Johnny Alonso”.
Lizzie: Yeah….I had that pointed out to me, elsewhere.
AM: After some stuff I had pointed out to me elsewhere (such as Alonso not originally being called Alonso), it’s really not looking like anything was meant by it. And until somebody else pointed it out to me yesterday, I had totally forgotten we’d met Alonso before–I’d not even remembered that detail during End of Time….I’m dreadfully unobservant, to be honest.
Of course, I have seent hings that says JB would be interested in having Alonso on Torchwood….
I just finished watching the Doctor Who 1996 TV movie. I thought it was okay. Anyone else seen it?
The Master has an American accent and looks like the Terminator.
49- Oh dear. I thought it was awful. Maybe it’s because of all the Americans. I also didn’t finish it, because Megavideo died on me.
You can find it on YouTube. It wasn’t fantastic, largely because of Eric Roberts’ acting and the Doctor saying he was half-human, but I liked Paul McGann as the Doctor and the American-ness of it didn’t kill me.
I don’t like American television/movies for the most part. I love Paul McGann but his Doctor was kind of like… “I can’t decide who I want to be! AMNESIA!!! Confusion!” And the woman was awful.
DOCTOR WHO ALERT
Hey! I just wanted to let everyone (in the US at least) know that Doctor Who is going to be on PBS on Sundays now! Tonight it’s the episode Partners in Crime, which is the first episode of series 4, so it’s the season BEFORE the current one. Which isn’t what I was expecting but hey! DT on my tv instead of small computer screen! Not going to complain
It starts at 10 pm central (aka blog) time.
And mom wants to watch it, so maybe after she gets into it she’ll be more understanding of why I am up till 4 am watching Torchwood (which I did last night with the 5 Children of Earth episodes-me and ebeth watched them all together (though she’d seen them before. I however had not and cried.). If mom had found out I was up so late, though… oof.)
You may not want to start her off with Partners in Crime. That was a pretty awful episode, aside from the Doctor’s interaction with Donna.
Yeah, it’s not the best place to start, but she’s not going to watch them online and getting them from the library would be like effort XD
It’s not on PBS here. I just ran down and frantically checked the TV guide on the TV. And normally if stuff is 10 central, it airs here at 10, too….
Or, that is, it’s on PBS channels,b ut not the “real” PBS channel, which is the only one we get. Ignore me, while I go destroy something.
Or I suppose I shouldn’t even say “real” PBS channel. Just the PBS channel that covers my region of Alaska–a region which happens to bloody include the largest city in the state WITH HALF THE BLOODY POPULATION OF AFOREMENTIONED STATE. Yes, I am irritated. Because apparently PBS’s AlaskOne is airing DW, but it covers only just about everywhere EXCEPT for this part of the state. Caking lot of good that does me….dslkfjdlkshgsdlfjkdslhglsdfjdslkfhsldjh;lf
Yes, I am overreacting…..But I don’t much care at this second.
Well, i just watched Once More With Feeling. I shouldn’t have watched it, but I don’t want to talk about why.
??? Once More With Feeling is awesome.
Agreed…..
Once More With Feeling is the only reason I’m willing to admit to the existence of Season 6.
*DOCTOR WHO SPOILER-ISH ALERT! I DON’T LIKE REPEATING MYSELF BUT TOO BAD, I REPEAT, DOCTOR WHO SPOILER-ISH ALERT!*
Does anyone know the old rhyme about what you’re supposed to have for a wedding…”Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue”? old=TARDIS, or the Doctor. new=TARDIS rebuilt itself and has been a bit off ever since. borrowed=TARDIS, if you want to be nice about stealing. blue=TARDIS, wedding=Amy. The TARDIS has always been old, borrowed, and blue, so is this some freaky coincidence, did someone plan this, or am I WAY overthinking here?
Also, the Angels aren’t part of the alliance. Perhaps they will come save the doctor? I hope so. I like the Angels. But I kinda doubt it.
And I thought the thing where they put the doctor in the pandorica box was predictable, a bit. I mean, “Something very old, very feared, the most feared thing in the universe, the best warrior in the universe…” that could only be the doctor. Okay, I admit it COULD have been something else, but I thought it was going to be the doctor.
I sure hope Amy comes back for another season. I like Amy. She’s probably my favorite compainion so far.
But I’m a little worried Rory will come back (really this time, not as an android) and she’ll just marry Rory and “settle down”. I’d be okay if Rory came too, though, I also like Rory. He sure as hell beats Mickey.
What episode are you on? Are you all caught up? I was going to respond to this, but I want to be sure.
I would hazard a guess that she just finished Pandorica Opens and has yet to watch The Big Bang, just from some things she said. I would add more, but I’m worried I could potentially accidentally spoil the awesomeness of The Big Bang….
Luna is quite correct. As I live in the US and dislike youtube (also Doctor Who is a bit of a family event) I have to wait for the eps. to air on BBC america.
Although this wouldn’t change the latter bit–that is, the watching Doctor Who as a family in front of a TV–I just want to point out that there are places other than YouTube that you can find DW eps. Places, for instance, where you don’t have the ep chopped up into itty bitty segments, like YT.
It’ll be well worth the wait, though, when you finally get to watch The Big Bang.
It’s a family event for us too. I keep the online TV-watching for my other fandom. (You all know what that is.)
o.O really? see my dad grew up on star trek so that’s a family thing…or at least a me-and-my-dad thing. doctor who is very much a me thing. i think dad’s seen a few of the classic eps. mom mentioned maybe watching it once but i told her not to, she still gets nightmares from the wizard of oz. it’s not really her thing. my brother doesn’t watch tv, spends all his time on movies.
so yeah
also i’d just like to mention that i typed up a post about how “…really?” and then realized you had only seen the first part and deleted it all for fear of spoilers. how have you survived this long without reading things about it? i can barely last two days.
Mostly by avoiding this thread like the plague, only more successfully. Until now. And I’m not reading all the posts I missed like I would on any other thread.
My mom introduced me to the wonders of DW after I came home from camp one summer. Then when David Tennant started playing the doctor we managed to get my hooked too…my sister won’t even come near DW—she left the 1st Harry Potter movie screaming when they mentioned the troll, so we decided not even to try for a few years. We got her to watch some of the Sarah Jane adventures (like Who (they use the same graphics, sonic equipment, mention the doctor, etc. I mean, it’s Sarah Jane) but for littler people) but she left when they met the Slytheen.
Yeah, if the Slitheen scared her, ‘twould be unwise to introduce her to our friends the Angels.
Quite. And hey, I can hardly spell actual english words, much less names of aliens in TV shows.
I think the italics were for emphasis along the lines of “if the Slitheen of all things” scared her, etc, not to point out that you misspelled their name….
The italics were for emphasis, not for correcting your spelling. The Slitheen are a tubby green vehicle for fart jokes. They explode if you pour vinegar on them. They’re about as intimidating as an animate cream puff.
“about as intimidating as an animate cream puff”
They ****** well are! If your most intimidating line is “VICTORY SHOULD BE NAKED,” just give up on being a villain. Go join a nudist colony and sell tie pins or something.
That line always makes me think of Dumbledore, from the Potter Puppet Pals vids….Because their Dumbledore always seems to have at least one instance of naked time per eppy.
Oh I quite agree that the Slitheen are not very frightening (though there are Doctor Who villains which are less frightening…the Nestene consciousness and its plastic minions always seemed pretty laughable to me). Those episodes were the first ones that convinced me Doctor Who really was worth watching, though–more because of the Doctor than the Slitheen and because the Dickens episode had been such a blow that anything would have looked brilliant.
Last night I watched the First Doctor’s eppy in which we meet our first cyberman. I didn’t realize it was going to be a cyberman ep, until right at the very, very end, when, suddenly–cyberman! Actually, I wasn’t even qutie sure at first if it was for sure supposed to be a cyberman. I had to consult my Monster’s Guide to Doctor Who, which indeed listed that serial as being the first one iwth Cybermen.
But unlike with the Daleks, there’s such a marked difference, and wow, just hilarious, looking at the cyberman then, having seen today’s cybermen. It’s like a cheap kid’s cyberman Halloween costume, or something. I love it though. Yay for hilarious old special effects and low budget costuming. XD
Please do not say which episode that is in.
Oh. Oh my god. Their voices. So unbelievably hilarious!!!!! I wish the modern cybermen sounded like them, ‘twould be bril.
This weekend I went to see the restored version of the classic 1927 silent movie “Metropolis.” It’s well worth seeing, in its own right and for historical interest.
But here’s why I mention it on this thread — is it just me, or does this still from the movie remind anyone else of something?
I don’t know if this is just me being crazy, but it reminds me of the library from Silence in the Library (Doctor Who. I loved that library.)
Now that you mention it, it kind of does….
Now that you mention it, I can see it, too, but I was thinking of something more basic, something more like an eeville robotic salt shaker that scoots around intoning the word “exterminate.”
When you say it like that, they seem so much less intimidating.
That probably says something about Doctor Who(and its fandom). It’s a whole lot better than it sounds.
I do agree with Clare’s interpretation, but that tower-thing looks sort of like a Dalek.
I think it also looks a bit like Yoda. Or my cat, seen from behind.
Oh, dear.
that must be one terrifying cat.
I’m glad someone else saw that. To me it practically screamed “Dalek” but then again…I’m working with my mind here, so who knows.
“Dalek” was my first thought, too. But after reading Clare de Lune’s interpretation, I think that makes sense, too.
I suppose our being Doctor Who fans has something to do with it.
It also made me think slightly of the Daleks’ city from the second serial.(shadowfire has started watching Classic Who)
*laughs* There’s this online game thing, AdventureQuest, that I used to be obsessed with. I was re-visiting it the other day and discovered the AWESOMEST quest EVER.
1. There was a Doctor (he had a REALLY weird name that started with a Z…)
2. Said Doctor kept referring to his Z.A.R.D.I.S.
3. Said Doctor had two children named Gallie and Frey.
4. Some of the “monsters” you encountered on your quest were the “Saleks”, huge salt-and-pepper shakers.
5. When the “Saleks” attacked, they would say “EXTINGUISH” and spray you with salt water, taking away 90 HP with each attack.
I encountered that a few years ago. It was before I really got into Doctor Who, so initially I was confused. Then I realized what they were referencing and couldn’t stop laughing.
I haven’t played AdventureQuest in ages, I didn’t realize that was still there.
Adventure Quest is made by the same people who make Dragonfable. In Dragonfable, there is a quest where you go into the alternate, time travel, dimension, and fight “Buffed up Biff the time tyrant” (Back to the future, anyone?) When you return (After dumping a load of manure on Biff) you place your stolen flux capacitor inside a purple phone box, and stick a broken umbrella on the top. Then some interesting stuff happens involving time travel.
Both Dragonfable and AdventureQuest are very referency and awesome games. Where was the said quest?
To me, it looks sort of like one of the shots from the first Spiderman movie.
55- Metropolis…is the anime movie a remake of the silent film?
The anime was not exactly a remake, more of an adaptation of/inspired by kind of thing, as near as I remember. I’d like to see it again now, too.
1.) Has anyone else listened to the Doctor Who Proms?
2.)I found a Doctor Who quote printed on the inside of my limeade bottle today.
1) I haven’t.
2) What was it?
Yes, I have. I thought them quite amusing.
I am ready to KILL Megavideo. Or, more specifically, its stupid ‘no more than 72 minutes a day without paying’ policy. For the second time in two days, it’s stopped me in the middle of everything to inform me that I can’t watch anymore. But Megavideo is by far my favorite of all the sites I’ve tried so far. Large screen, fast buffering, it’s great. Except for one itty-bitty thing.
Fine, fine, I’ll shut up. On the plus side, I’m now in the middle of Pandorica Opens, and don’t tell me I’m way behind, I already know. Now I’m off to experiment with new sites and see if I can find another good one.
So… you’re getting mad because doing illegal things is difficult?
… Is it illegal?
Of course. Thoroughly.
…Oh.
You hadn’t realized this? The site shows copyrighted movies and TV shows without permission from the copyright holders and without paying for them. Entirely illegal. Common, but illegal.
XD Sometimes I watch Doctor Who on a Dutch site that is sort of like YouTube. It loads REALLY SLOW, but sometimes Megavideo just won’t work.
I never thought about it.
I wonder why Mom didn’t object? She’s usually the first to object to copyright infringement.
MEGAVIDEO IS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE
58.1.1.1.1.1– I don’t think I’ve ever had a twinge of guilt about that… It is TV, after all. Anyone with access to a TV can watch it. Anyone in the UK could watch it on the BBC site. But my computer’s too old to use Netflix ANYWAY, so as long as they continue to be prejudiced against Mac users, I might as well just do illegal things.
It is very annoying though. I’d much rather use Netflix. Perhaps I should make a petition for Netflix to let non-Intel-based Macs use the instant view. Maybe if I’m persistent and annoying enough they’ll give me a free computer to make me go away!
Kidding, kidding…jerks.
Anyone having access to TV and paying for monthly cable or satellite service while watching advertisements from official partners. TV isn’t free. The BBC has to make money if it wants to stay in business. That’s the point of Doctor Who.
Oh, and by access to a TV, I also meant the ability to watch it on someone else’s TV.
Are fan-reconstructed Classic Episodes as illegal as NuWho? It is not broadcasted, and the fans actually help the BBC by repairing half the episode.
According to a page on the missing episodes on wikipedia, “Although technically infringing copyright, these recons [aka fan made recons] have been tolerated by the BBC, provided they are not sold for profit and are only distributed in degradable, non-digital formats such as VHS.”
Of course….That begs the question what about the fan made recons online? Those are definitely non-degradable….
59.1- Yeah… or you can watch it on the BBC site. If you’re in the UK.
And that doesn’t explain the NETFLIX issue. I’m willing to watch a few ads (though not ads every five minutes, like actual TV), but they won’t let me. I am driven to illegal TV-watching! -angsty pose-
Honestly though. I don’t even care (that it’s illegal, not that I can’t use Instant View. That makes me mad). Yay crime!
This seems like a good place to ask, so what exactly is TVTropes? I’ve heard it in a few places on the blog now…
A friend wants me to watch The Legend of the Seeker, so I may be starting that sometime soon. Never seen/heard anything about it, so I guess I’ll let everyone know.
It is a catalog of devices used in fiction. Insanely addictive.
So I’ll justify my illegal acts by protesting that I’m an innocent minor whose parents would never get cable, and I can’t use Netflix because my parents would never get me a Windows computer. (By the way, Alice, I’ll gladly sign your petition.) Yes, that’s right. My parents drove me to a life of crime.
Or something. I finished this season of DW anyway, so I probably won’t be watching anything else online for quite some time.
SPOILER BIG BANG SPOILER BIG BANG SPOILER SPOILER
I know everybody’s already discussed this to their heart’s content. I just had to mention it.
Just after I first saw Flesh and Stone, I asked the question “What did he tell her when she was seven?” Obviously, we couldn’t know what he was talking about, this was months ago, but it’s still interesting that I noticed and commented on that when it later became a MAJOR plot point.
Also, rewinding to Pandorica Opens, (spoilerspoilerspoiler) I really liked how the episode kept surprising me. It was amazing. Like, I guessed that the Doctor would be in the Pandorica, but I guessed that it would open and then he’d pop out all cheerily and greet everyone and so forth. That was wrong. Then when the Doctor first saw Rory again, I had my expectations for how it would go.
Then it went in a completely different direction.
And now I feel like I’m rambling. But I still love how they didn’t do the obvious thing, how they changed it and did something else.
Right. Rambling over.
You all can justify your actions however you want, but remember that you are stealing from the very company that’s bringing you your favorite shows. It would be like somehow stealing a shirt from Musery Loves Company because you didn’t want to wait two weeks for it to be delivered. *shrugs*
I’m quite surprised the GAPAs have allowed specific talk about such sites. They’re external, they’re illegal, they very likely have spyware and such things.
Although, frankly, at least for me, I doubt “stealing” (which doesn’t seem quite the right term since everyone has what they had before) Doctor Who episodes has done the BBC any harm. I would never have paid to watch them and we don’t have cable tv – being able to get the episodes from the free sites means that they get another fan, that I’m more likely to follow the show in the future, get swag, go to live screenings or movies or whatnot, promote the show to other people. If the free sites hadn’t existed, I would be like “yeah, whatever, I’m sure it’s cool but I have better things to spend my money on.” As it is, the show gets more exposure (I’ve ‘converted’ a fair number of people), they sell stuff, etc.
Also, doesn’t the BBC run on tax money? If you’re “stealing” (and i agree with lizzie about the use of that word) from the BBC, you’re not -really- taking away their revenue stream, since they don’t count on money from American viewers anyway. honestly by watching the show and promoting it and discussing it, no matter how you do it, you’re providing a bigger fan base that shows the BBC that DW is a popular and profitable investment, and that they should continue giving it the money (which they -already have-) to keep the show going. it’s a completely different system from american TV. you could argue that you’re taking money away from BBC america/cable but to be honest, many of the people who watch DW online aren’t going to get cable just for doctor who anyway.
you could also argue that online viewing takes money away from DVD sales, but as lizzie said, online viewing creates fans, who will then buy DVDs or other merchandise once they are more committed to the show. maybe as a present for a friend, maybe just so they can have a physical copy. i talked to a couple people about this at MARCon (actually, we were talking specifically about downloading DW, check that out) and most people who had the money to spare said that they happily bought the DVDs when they came out, but they still downloaded while the show was airing, because they didn’t have prompt access to the show any other way
personally i think BBC america is kind of asking for it, airing the show with a delay like they do. it’s unfair to the fans. part of the great thing about DW is the speculation and discussion that goes into every episode, and if you watch on a delay you’re sort of being excluded from that community of fans. if nothing else, harry potter should have shown how important that discussion is for generating a larger and more committed fanbase. TV companies need to realize that the world is now operating on a global scale, and two weeks later isn’t good enough. they shouldn’t be surprised, then, when people choose illegality and involvement over legality and exclusion.
BBC America planned the delay this year so that the finale would air at convention in California, which would increase casual viewers and frustrate serious viewers, yet the serious viewers would not leave because they are serious.
yeah but there’s no reason they couldn’t air the finale at comic-con AFTER having aired it on TV. and i don’t see that airing the -finale- attracts any casual viewers, people who hadn’t seen the show would just be confused. they should have shown a more standalone episode to attract viewers, and aired the finale the same day it aired in the UK.
plus delaying a show to time it with comic-con? what about all the hundreds of thousands of fans who can’t go? honestly, i still have no sympathy for them. if they abuse their fans like this they can expect people to download and watch online, and i’m not going to be sorry about it. besides, i’m sure a large majority of the people at comic-con were -already- serious doctor who fans. their reasoning here is just ridiculous.
I’m becoming very cynical. All I can think while reading this discussion is “What a bunch of spoiled rich Westerners with first-world problems.” Myself included.
I’m sure we are.
However, rest assured that I am not intending to break any more laws in the near future. I have many other things that I’d rather be doing but I keep being distracted.
Oh, we definitely are. It occurs to me almost daily how spoilt our entire culture is (Oh, my computer’s being so SLOW. I can’t believe I have to walk three miles! Whine whine etc.). Like I said on Hot Topics, maybe it’s time to die or evolve or something. It’ll take a long time for six and half billion people to evolve, though.
But…I have no intention of stopping my illegal DW watching. Or Red Dwarf watching, or Blackadder watching, or anything. And I shall continue to be a spoilt rich Westerner while at the same despising spoilt rich Westerners and trying half-heartedly not to be one.
God…I’ve been depressing lately. Maybe I’m watching too much comedy.
Heh, I’m not rich and I am very attached to my 8 year old Windows laptop.
XD In the first episode of Jekyll, a woman says “Hello sweetie.” To the main character. Moffatt, I love you.
I saw a trailer for Jekyll on one of the discs from Series 3 Doctor Who that I got the other day….I made a mental note to look into it at some point. Is it good?
vaguely on that note, has anyone seen sherlock yet?
Yes. I watched it last night. Although I kept thinking of what could have happened if Benedict Cumberpatch accepted the role of the 11th Doctor. He is kind of like McGann.
i could see him as 12. although hopefully smith will stick around long enough to not make that possible. we’re running out of doctors! (also hoping they address that soon…)
but yeah i dunno i think the doctor and sherlock holmes have a lot of similarities, just as characters. they’re both mad brilliant but just a little out of touch with “normal” life.
i’m super excited for part 2. i was a little disappointed about the middle bit though, the whole…
SPOIIIIILERRRRSPOILERSPOILER cabbie thing seemed really obvious to me. like the -first- time he said “who hunts in a crowd unnoticed blah blah” i was like “aaaah.” which i’m fine with, you want the audience to be with it and everything but then they had that looong unnecessary montage of cabs driving around and sherlock going “OH MAN WHAT COULD IT BE” and it was like “…really? really, genius? okay then.”
but that’s my only criticism, other than that i thought it was fantastic. and as the story went on i realized that it wasn’t reaally all about solving the case, it was the characters and psychological developments and everything that made it really great at the end. so yeah.
I simply thought there are a large amount of cabs in the city. Even though I was trying to “notice everything.” Part 2 is on Sunday.
What is Sherlock? What is Jekyll? Should I even ask? I don’t need more TV shows…
i don’t know about jekyll (it’s on my list) but sherlock is only going to be three parts. although it may continue for a second season, from what i hear the BBC is interested in keeping it going. i don’t know that moffat would have much time to be involved with it, but gatiss could probably keep it running
anyway, sherlock is an adaptation of sherlock holmes by steven moffat and mark gatiss. part one was fantastic, part 2 comes out, as jakob said, sunday. jekyll is moffat’s sequel to the strange case of dr jekyll and mr hyde. just looked it up and it’s only six episodes
Jekyll is a chilling show about Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, sort of a sequel. I watched all 6 hours of it today and just finished… 6 episodes of 1 hour each.
Sherlock is another miniseries, and is a Sherlock Holmes story in modern times in England of course. 3 episodes of 90 minutes each.
Mr. Moffat is mostly responsible for both of these awesome works.
70.1, 70.2- Ahhh. Still don’t need more TV. Maybe if I ever finish Red Dwarf and Foyle’s War. And Carnivale. And Spaced. And maybe even Farscape sometime.
I just watched Blackadder Goes Forth…God, that last episode was depressing. And of course I felt that Baldrick’s last Cunning Plan might have been the only one to work, if only he’d had time to say it. It wasn’t my favorite season, I think because there was always the undertone of “This is World War One. This is one of the greatest tragedies ever wrought by Western Civilization, and we’re going to set a comedy in it.” Which was good, but always a little bit depressing in a way the previous seasons weren’t. Too bleak for half-hour episodes, even if you have six of them.
So wah. Now I need to get Blackadder Back and Forth and the Blackadder Christmas Carol…but I’ll probably leave it until I get back from the Shakespeare festival…three seasons in a week was a bit much, I think.
aahh, really? season 4 was one of my favorites. the last episode was really depressing though.
i sort of stopped halfway through spaced…i really wanted to like it, because i love simon pegg, but i don’t know, i just wasn’t laughing much.
Oh I loved Spaced (not nearly as much as Black Books, though–I wish there was more of that…). But I was watching it my mother and we got through the first two seasons but then she went and decided, as she does periodically, that she didn’t have time for TV. So we never finished.
black books was -fantastic.- spaced…i dunno, just didn’t quite live up to my expectations i guess. which, to be honest, were pretty high
I just started watching Big Bang theory. IT. IS. AWESOME.
omg me toooooo
Oh, yes it is! I’ve been following it online, but my parents refused (something about morality) and we just got the DVD for Season 3! I love the most recent one where
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Sheldon gets the cats.
So, Kiki’s mentioned of Doctor Who on the random thread just now reminded me of something I’d forgotten.
Y’know how last Tuesday on the way to my first class I saw an area under construction with blue flickering lights that reminded me of a cyber conversion chamber?
Well, today on the way to that same class, just as I was about to walk underneath the bike ramp up to the pedestrian walkway across a busy street, a crack in the cement of the bike ramp caught my eye: *thinking* “Oh, a crack. Hang on, that crack curves upwards like smiley face, OMG, like THE crack. it’s the shape of THE crack. hang on, it looks like it’s oozing something whitish from it. Wait a minute….white oozing out of a smiley face shaped crack???? But THE crack oozed white light. Oh. Oh, dear. My Tuesdays rather seem to be haunted by Bad Things from the Whoniverse….”
’twas brilliant. I need to see if it’s still there and take a picture of it tomorrow or something.
OMG. hahah cyber conversion chamber, that’s actually pretty epic x] DON’T GO IN, WHATEVER YOU DO. BEWARE OF PEOPLE WITH EARBUDS.
yeah, take pics of the crack!
Oh dear….Earbuds. I didn’t even think of it, but when I went over to the vet med teaching hospital today for my monthly meeting with my prevet mentor, the receptionist was wearing one of those bluetooth phone things in her ear. Uh-oh….
Those bluetooth thingies always make me think of the tags they put on clothing items to deter shoplifting.
RE: Doctor Who Series 6.
Think of it this way. It is still one series. There is simply a break in between. Moffat isn’t concerned about scheduling, because that is not really important. The show is important, and the fans will watch it however it is scheduled.
Maybe he has it interlock with Torchwood, maybe not. But look:
Winter: Doctor Who
Spring: Doctor Who
Fall: Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Sherlock.
Yeah. All that next year.
Plus, this is not a permanent scheduling for all the rest of the serieses.
I know it’s still one series, but…I dunno. I’m not sure I like it taking a long hiatus in the middle of the season, I do so hate it when shows do that, in general.
Oh, that reminds me I was going to hunt down Sherlock and watch that….and Jekyll. Must remember, and pause my Classic Who watching long enough to do so….
sherlock is absolutely fantastic! the first ep is the best, but the others are good too
I might get it watched this weekend, I’m not sure….If I get my homework done Friday again, I’ll have the weekend off, but a couple of friends and I are planning to go to Six Flags on Saturday, so that only leaves Sunday and Monday….So come to think of it, if I get my homework done, that leaves plenty of time.
Sherlock is EPIC. Epically epic. I have never shipped anyone as hard as I ship Sherlock/Watson after watching that.
Sherlock, OMG. I just watched the first ep of that, since I’d finished most of my homework (I’m putting off studying for my spanish quiz that’s friday until Thursday night….), and had some time…But I just finished and my thoughts:
1. Holy freaking cake, the actor who plays Sherlock is absolutely gorgeous. I mean, just, guh. Actually, he reminds me a bit of the actor who plays Merlin on BBCs Merlin series (Colin Morgan).
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2. The whole Sherlock/Watson chemistry, all the scenes where everyone kept thinking they were a couple (OMG, the dinner scene, with Sherlock thinking that Watson was asking all the questions about girlfriend/boyfriend etc because he was interested.
3. Just the sheer awesomeness of it all. I lol’d when he was whipping the cadaver (but, really, aren’t there laws against abusing corpses…?)
Just totally freaking brilliant, and part of me wants to go and watch the other two right now, because of the utter amazingness, and then another bit of me wants to hold off awhile (like not ages or anything), just because I don’t want to be done, because I want the awesome to last as long as possible, and….Just wow. And Sherlock. OMG. *droolage* Gorgeous.
Uh-oh.
I saw your comment in the recent comments bar, and I just knew that it was in response to that post….
watch Hawking, it’s a BBC movie about stephen hawking starring cumberbatch (aka sherlock). you can’t help but fall in love with him.
there’s also talk about him being the 12th doctor but i have no idea if there’s any real possibility there. he claims he was offered the role of 11 and turned it down, but i don’t know if that’s true either.
There is no truth there. He has said he wants to take a more serious path of acting.
when did he say that? because he definitely expressed interest in being on the show
“I’d turn it down anyway. Jumping onto school stages and saying, ‘I am the Doctor’ . . . it’s not where I want to go.”
August 19th.
This does not eliminate him guest starring in Doctor Who though.
He would make a lovely 12th Doctor….
I’ll have to look into that movie, too. XD
Here is my Who Should Totally Be The Doctor list, compiled in the comment box at this moment and disgarding who may or may not be British, American, available, unavailable, or unwilling:
Neil Patrick Harris.
Nathan Fillion.
Seth Green.
James Marsters.
David Tennant. Again.
And why yes, four out of those five are from Joss Whedon productions. Whyever do you mention that? (One good cult deserves another, I figure…)
NPH: I just can’t visualize him as the Doctor, even if he were British. He’s a good actor from the little I’ve seen of him, but just doesn’t strike me as working as the Doctor.
Nathan Fillion: Awesome and hot, undeniably (Captain Mal & Castle? Yum). But again….I just can’t picture him as the Doctor.
Seth Green: Don’t think I know who that is.
James Marsters: Well, that wouldn’t work do to the fact that he plays a Time Agent on Torchwood, with some intense history with everyone’s favorite former Time Agent Captain Jack Harkness. So if the Doctor were suddenly to regnerate looking exactly like Jack’s former lover and Time Agent partner….Yeah.
David Tennant: Well, yeah. It would be brill if Tennant were to come back. Actually, what would be truly epic would be if Tennant were to get together with Matt Smith, one of those multi-Doctor episodes I’ve heard of but haven’t yet seen, where the Doctor crosses his own time line…..
Benedict Cumberbatch, now, as I mentioned in the post you replied to….I can totally picture him as the Doctor, even if he isn’t interested in such a role. Just something about him, I can see that working. Plus he’s absolutely gorgeous. One cannot stress that enough. Seriously.
Seth Green = Oz (OOOOZZZZ MY LOVE)
Not sure about him as a Doctor
My friends and I agree that Daneil Radcliff should be the 12th Doctor, or that the 12th Doctor should wear a bowler hat.
Radcliffe? Nuh-uh. He’s a good actor, makes an excellent Harry Potter, but The Doctor? no.
How did I know you’d say that?
Anyway, I don’t think he’d be that great as the Doctor. I think Benedict Cumberbatch would make a good Doctor, and I agree on the gorgeousness. (Him in a bowler hat would win.)
I’ll take the bowler hat, thank you very much.
oh yes please no daniel radcliffe doktah. just…no
How about a fez? XD
“I wear a fez now, I wear a fez now. Fezzes are cool. ” Probably my favorite line. Ever. Except for the whole “allons-y, Alonso!” thing with ten, that’s high up on my list of favorite lines too.
But I seriously think they should bring the fez back. It was a nice look.
David Bowie should be the 12th Doctor!!!
well, i really don’t think the moff cares about torchwood- it’s not his show, it’s still RTD’s. but yeah, that’s a good way to think about it, but people (me included) are wondering whether it’ll count as two seasons or one. different articles say different things.
Wikipedia is saying that Moffat says that they are different series, linked by a midseason finale.
What I think will happen/ the split will be is that Amy will leave the Doctor at the end or at the beginning of the first half/ second half respectively, and River Song will become the main companion.
Something I read said that “….Moffat said that he felt the show needed a big event in the middle of the season. He said that a Doctor Who season was 13 episodes long, which was enough for two seasons of most BBC shows, so rather than show them all at once, it would be split into two blocks, one shown in the spring as usual, and the second shown in the fall.”
Which to me implies that it is one series, but shown in two chunks. But at this point it’s probably all speculation whether it’s one series in two parts, or two half-size series, and really, isn’t all of that just semantics, anyway?
Wow. I just finished Buffy a week ago, and I realized I haven’t talked about it here in ages. So…
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Season 6 kinda sucked. Once more with feeling was awesome, but otherwise… The trio was lame. Buffy should have just kicked their asses once and for all and thrown them out. Everything just fell apart: Willow/Tara was so sad, Xander turned out to be a total jerk after his lovely speech to Anya in season 5, Dawn just got dragged along everywhere and Spuffy just started out abusive. The end was better though. It was so cute when Xander saved the world after all by stopping Willow, I just wanted him and Anya to work something out.
Season 7 was great, especially the end: return to high school, Spuffy becoming epic and Giles back again… I just wish that Xander/Anya had ended differently, and Kennedy really annoyed me, because she was just so ignorant and brought Willow away from the Scoobies. Andrew became funny too; I just wish Angel hadn’t showed up again (I guess had too, but why couldn’t he have died instead of Spike! *sob*).
spuffy? really?
What else is there? Riley- no way, Angel started to annoy me after a while.
no, no, it’s not the pairing…it’s the name
Oh. I think the Spelluna has started to rub off on meselfi. *runs away screaming at the last bit*
I’ll have to watch Seven. I heard some bad things about it, but lots of people say it’s better than Six.
“I hope you’ll appreciate this wine. It’s made for me especially in Alaska.” ~The villain Salamander in Doctor Who “Enemy of the World”, episode 3, as he gives a man a glass of poisoned wine.
Made me lol, as that was the last place I would have expected a mention of Alaska, given not only the country of origin of DW, but the fact that Alaska hadn’t even been a state very long at all at that point…
That was the perfect time to mention salamanders…
Does anime count on this thread? As in, Noein and Avatar:The last airbender?
We do have an anime thread. I forget, but the search bar is your friend.
‘kay, thanks.
Well, as for Doctor Who, it gets one chance to redeem itself. I saw one episode-Vampires in Venice-hated it. Tell me one episode that will make me want to watch the series and I’ll watch that episode.
blink
That was a rather controversial episode. That I liked. Eh, try watching The Eleventh Hour, but don’t watch it until someone else agrees with me.
I liked the Eleventh Hour, but I don’t think it’s the one I’d select as “the one ep someone should watch to change their mind about the series” ep. (pretend there are hyphens between all those words….I’m too lazy to type them)
controversial? blink? i don’t know a single person who didn’t love it
I meant Vampires.
Haha, love the new gravatar, Eboo! Troughton’s even more awesome than Hartnell. Actually, Hartnell took ages to grow on me.
Honestly, you really shouldn’t judge a show by one single episode, becaue that really doesn’t give a very good indication of the overall quality of a program. Some really good series have a bad episode now and then, some really crappy shows have the occasional good episode.
Now, an episode that would make you rethink your decision, as Ebeth mentioned, is Blink. The two parter Empty Child and The Doctor Dances was also quite good.
Why not start at the beginning?
Rose, though a useful background episode, is not the most fantastic in the series. i think blink works really well as a standalone episode to get people into the series, at which point they can go back to the beginning and really get into the whole story.
True.
Yeah, I showed my sister Rose and Blink when at her school for Thanksgiving break last year, and she thought Rose was totally pointless and plotless, with everything being told to you right off, but that Blink was okay. She failed to realize just how freaking awesome it was, but she conceded it was decent.
Watch Blink. It’s one of the series’ best episodes ever, and you don’t need any background info. In fact, I think it could be considered a better episode if you didn’t have any background info. Also, if you decide to go back and start at the beginning, don’t get put off by the first few episodes, because it gets better.
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So, I was going to come here and post something all shock-y-esque, disbelieving at how the cake the episode was ended, given that technically it was never intended to be returning series.
But after having an emotional breakdown due to completely unrelated stuff before I could do so, that just doesn’t seem that important anymore.
I mean, that was a great ep (not as good as the first, but better than the second), but the ending, such a huge cliffhanger, totally OMG. So good, but to end it there?!?!?! alksfjdsklghadladfjkls
Moriarti was freaking awesome, too. Be a shame to see him leave, although kind of redundant to have him stick around….
i think the secret intent was to ask for another series, to be honest. and no worries, the bbc was practically wetting themselves over it. it’ll definitely be picked up for a full season if it hasn’t been already
I just read something that said that the next series is just going to be another 3 eps. Which kind of sucks….
aww, no! full season, BBC, come on
i suppose as long as the eps are still an hour and a half it’s OKAY. but why not do six hour and a half episodes?
Ebeth. That is a LOT. Quality is what matters.
Actually, it’s really not a lot. 6 hour and a half episodes is only 12 normal length episodes. Which is a normal length BBC series, and god-awful short by US standards.
I’m pretty sure that’s not true. Where was it?
I watched an interview on the Guardian website about this, and Moffat seemed really excited and happy about the split season, like he wouldn’t trade it for the world.
I hope we have more off Earth/ not present time specials or companions. I loves them.
Ummmm, I’m not sure we’re talking about the same show, Enc.
The three episode season thing was in reference to the next season of Sherlock ( and while admittedly my source was not the most reliable, it was a c+p on the IMDb message boards, from some article/interview somewhere).
But I think you’re talking about Doctor Who, since you mentioned split seasons and off-Earth time and companions?
Ohhhhh. *headdesk*
I should probably watch Sherlock, since it’s British, and you reccomend it.
It’s absolutely wonderful. And brilliant. And Benedict Cumberbatch who plays Sherlock is absolutely gorgeous. And as I just realized yesterday, the actor who plays Watson played Arthur Dent in H2G2, and I also finally placed why one of the actors, Mark Gatiss, looked familiar, since the fact that he was co-writer certainly wouldn’t make him look familiar. He played Lazarus in “The Lazarus Experiment”, series 3 DW.
I have now watched Big Bang. Finally.
Ha, now my friends can open their mouths around me without spoiling it.
Ohhhh. Just finished Jekyll a short while ago, having watched all six episodes today, spread out amongst some Classic Who.
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I knew the ending most likely would be left with a cliff hanger of some sort, considering the way sherlock ended, but….I honestly thought it was just going to be that his kids were a two bodied Jekyll and Hyde incarnation (which they were, I mean, they made that clear with the whole Hyde winky thing on the part of the snotty child–Eddie, I think that one was?), but no. I really didn’t expect the ending at all, with his mum being a female Jekyll and Hyde. maybe I’m just slow, but even when she was telling him it wasn’t over, I thought she was just referring to his children until she changed into the head *censored* running the whole organization of evil people. Speaking of, did Bejamin’s fake american accent bother anyone else? Because something about his voice bothered me from the first time I heard him speak to Hyde in the bar, and then the next time we met him, I realized he had an American accent–albeit one that didn’t quite sound right, and I looked it up and he’s (unsurprisingly) not american….so I’m guessing it’s his fake accent that was annoying me….but anyway.
And I never even thought of Jackman being a descendant of Hyde when they kept harping on him not being Jekyll’s descendant–but I just came to the same conclusion as what’s her name, the PI woman, that he was a clone. And his mum, when she kept saying that she wasn’t exactly his mother, but the closest thing he had, looking back it seems that the obvious conclusion would be she’s a Jekyll/Hyde, too, and that her Hyde half mothered him, and that’s how she’s nto hsi mother, but I guess I just thought she was the surrogate womb the clone was put in, or something…
And come to think of it, clearly Benjamin and most of the others too, probably, didn’t realize his mother was a Jekyll/Hyde, or at least not who he Jekyll side was, given how he was reacting to her escape from teh holding cell….
And OMG, James Nesbitt’s (Jackman) performance was freaking amazing. I mean, his theatrical Hyde was just….wow. Totally brilliant, and I was in total awe when I didn’t have my hand clapped over my mouth in terror that he was going to kill someone….the character, that is, not the actor.
And I lvoed how the opening credits on the 6th ep were “Hyde” instead of Jekyll….
And, of course, I loved all the familiar faces. We had Jackman’s assistant, who played Nimueh on BBC’s Merlin, and of course was on that one special of Doctor Who, the one with the double decker bus that went through the worm hole, and then there was the PI, she was the Indian woman on Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, and her lover (Min?) who was Agatha Christie on that one Doctor Who episode….It’s always fun, seeing familiar faces and then sitting there for ages while it bothers you because you’re not quite sure why they look familiar…..
And this post is dreadfully long so I’m going to stop typing, now.
And, of course, in addition to “Hello, sweetie,” I loved the “Daddy, is that you, Daddy? Are you my Daddy?” Because obviously it reminded me Empty Child/Doctor Dances…..
Bwahahaha! ITts awesome, isn’t it? Heard of Being Human?
Maybe? Not sure. If so, I really don’t know anything about it….
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Did anyone else think, when they saw the words on the oldest cliff in existence, of God’s Final Message To His Creation? I honestly expected them to be “We apologize for the inconvenience”, but that wouldn’t develop the plot at all, would it?
Also, when we (MUCH LARGER SPOILER) saw the blank sky at the beginning of Big Bang, I just thought, “Krikkit.”
I seem to have HG2G on the brain.
Does Wicked count here? I listened to the soundtrack today and read the summary. It sounds awesome.
the book is really interesting – a lot darker than the musical and sort of political philosophy.
I haven’t seen it, but I loved the book. I would definitely recommend reading it before trying to see it, because apparently the play changes many things, but surely there would be spoilers.
Can I just mention Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog, which isn’t TV, but isn’t quite a movie either? Because it is my favorite musical of ALL time. And I can’t wait until A Very Horrible Sequel comes out.
I just re-watched one of my favorite Andromeda episodes, “The Unconquerable Man”. It’s funny, some of the episodes seem boring or cheesy in retrospect but I still really love this one because I think the (Gheris) Rhade was one of the most realistic characters and the best personalities on the show and the episode explained what seemed like a plot hole. Why hasn’t anyone else here seen it? The series is easily available on teh interwebs, at least the first, second and early third season which were the best anyway.
I was driving past a Halloween/part store, and in the window, I saw a Weeping Angel. As in a literal angel statue with its hands over its eyes. No joke. I was freaked. Unfortunately, there were three other people in the car, and only one watched Doctor Who, so the two other people got confused when I mentioned it. I didn’t bother explaining.
Just watched the first episode of Sherlock on PBS. It was amazing!
Yes! Yes yes yes yes yes! Yes! That show is my new obsession! I have been trawling every fanfiction archive I can find for it! It is so, so incredibly fantastic!
YES SHERLOCK IS AMAZING.
Benedict Cumberbatch should the the 12th Doctor, seriously.
SFTDP: Especially if they continue the tradition of having shirtless/ semi-clothed doctors…
Agreed. On both counts. Yummilicious.
Anyone here seen Slings and Arrows? I just finished the first season. If you haven’t heard of it (which is quite likely since it’s an old obscure Canadian show), it’s about a bunch of actors performing Shakespeare (a different show in each of the 3 seasons). It’s pretty brilliant.
I will investigate!
I love it! Especially the season with Macbeth.
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Darren Criss is on Glee. He’s like… magical. Wow. This episode is going to be amazing. I changed my mind, Kurt+Blaine has to happen. ♥
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Has anyone else seen the episode “Never been kissed” ? I just watched it, and DARREN CRISS/BLAINE IS AMAZING ♥ ♥ Poor Kurt though. He feels so alone at the start. I think Blaine is probably going to be a good friend of his in the future.
Also, it was a little…unexpected that that guy who goes around slamming people (Kurt…) into lockers is gay. AND HE KISSED KURT. Excuse me, just need a minute to exclaim over this recent devlopment…yeah, that’s smart of you, go around slamming the guy you sort of like and who is braver than you and admits what you won’t into lockers…he won’t own up to it though, so yeah…
90-OH YES. ABSOLUTLY. THEY MUST. That would be so amazing. ♥
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I’ve seen it. And I feel cheated as hell that Kurt and Blaine didn’t get some snoggage going on. I mean, first it was supposed to be Sam and Kurt get it on, then, oh, no, little [female dog] Quinn gets her ahnds all over him, and you know it’s not cuz she likes him, I mean, she clearly stated to Sue that she was with him for the popularity boost it gives her, for the way it raises her social standing back up, and then on top of that, no Kurt/Blaine action? Hello, it was bloody well supposed to be Kurt and BLAINE getting all snoggalicious, not bully-boy freaking and giving Kurt a quick kiss. Lame.
They totally cheated us, and if Kurt and Blaine don’t get together…..Luna just might explode.
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OHHHHH. MY GOD…
This was the first episode of the season that came up to par with my expectations.
First of all, Kurt and Blaine (Klaine? Blurt? Whatever) are adorable! Darren Criss is so, so, SO attractive. They’re adorable together. I thought when they were sitting on the stairs Blaine was gonna kiss him. I wish he had.
Second…the kiss. Kurt and Karofsky. Oh my God. I literally jumped out of my chair and shrieked when it happened. It was so sudden and unexpected and passionate…
I felt super bad for both of them. I mean, Kurt’s first kiss was gone, and the bully probably feels worse now that he knows Kurt doesn’t like him back. Why would he? he made Kurt’s life a living hell. Still, I feel like he deserves to have someone, so that he doesn’t feel so alone in the world. I bet that’s why he takes out his aggression on Kurt: because Kurt’s able to live with his sexuality, something that Karfsky can’t do yet no matter how many kids he punches.
Is there a better show than Glee? Seriously, is there?
yes.
Yes.
Kurt is just too over the top, so I end up not especially sympathizing with him. Karfsky’s violence is too easily explained by homophobia. Darren Criss is still Harry Potter to me. The show seems to try to tackle large and complex issues of identity and society, but with a musical backbone, a 40-minute timespan, and the need for drama. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Is it the best current teen musical drama? Yes.
Uh, yes. In no particular order: Doctor Who, Torchwood, Jekyll, Sherlock, Buffy, Merlin, and any number of others.
yes.
Yes. Buffy and Sherlock come to mind, and if you venture out of the fictional realm, I’m a big Daily Show fan. But I love, love, love, love Glee, and this latest episode was probably my favorite of all time.
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I felt like all of my favorite storylines got a nice amount of screentime, which never happens. And the kiss… it was perfectly done, and the aftermath was so heartbreaking and realistic. And Kurt is actually my favorite character. *dodges pies* Sure, he can be annoying and self-absorbed and over-the-top, but his comments this episode and experiences really hit a nerve with me. Right now, the only thing I want out of this show is seriously for Kurt to be happy. Anyone who can help Kurt cheer up once in a while, whether it’s Blaine or anyone else, is pretty awesome in my book. That moment when he was watching the Warblers dance and sing and he was smiling made me feel like I just want more.
But in other news… the title of the episode after next is Furt! FURT! The Finn/Kurt portmanteau! (And this probably isn’t just coincidence; Glee actually reads their fanfiction, I think. They stole the portmanteau “Puckleberry” for Puck/Rachel, and that was totally a fan name.) Eee! Kurt, please don’t get your heart broken!
Wait wait wait… How about “Puckleberry Finn”?
Beedle –
91.2.1.1 Ebeth and following: Never having seen any of those other programs, in my world Glee is still the best show ever.
Speaking of shows, I was thinking of watching The Big Bang Theory tonight – will I get it if this is the first episode I’ve seen? I really, really want to hear the theme song.
watch the first couple seasons. it’s gotten kind of terrible lately
I didn’t end up watching it, so I guess I’ll have to do it this…Thursday?
It’s already a community on a few fan forums. It’s the second result on Google when you type in “puckleberry”. The Internet is weird.
Yeah, Kurt is my favorite character too. He’s just so awesome. (And besides, aren’t they all pretty self-absorbed? Is there even a comepletely selfless person on there?)
Did anyone else see Fringe last night? They used the number stations in it, which I was all, “Pssh, number stations. I know what those are just because I’m that awesome. *whisper* I know it from Muse.” Yeah, but in Fringe it made it so that the numbers were created by people from before the dinosaurs, and they reveal the coordinates to pieces of the machine that can create and destroy. And they used cracking codes and man, was it the geekiest episode yet.
Ahhhhh.
So I watched Sherlock.
The second episode was not very good, but the first and the third ones were AWESOME and it’s funny because I’d just been thinking what if they modernized Sherlock Holmes and then mother came back with this DVD one day and we sat down to watch it and it was modernized! And then I realized there were only three parts and a cliffhanger ending and I couldn’t stop thinking about it for days…still can’t…so I went to the library to see if there was any more Holmes and there’s a whole volume of them so that’s all right. But god, Fall 2011 is SO FAR AWAY. Even if I have Doctor Who to tide me over part of it.
I know. Isn’t it awesome?
Benedict Cumberbatch (wonder how the guy survived childhood) it fantastic as Sherlock, and I had a moderate fangirl moment when I realized Arthur Dent was Watson.
But that cliffhanger was horribly obnoxious. And we have to wait a year until we find out what happens?
I agree with the other people who think Benedict Cumberbatch would be great as the 12th Doctor. He has the right personality.
I recognized Watson, but I didn’t realize he’d played Arthur Dent. I just knew him from the British Office (not very good).
Re: Cumberbatch as the Doctor: I don’t know. I mean, I can see it and he’d be good. And I’d love to see more of him and yes he’s very attractive. But I don’t think he’d be the best for it. It’s hard to explain.
I have never watched either version of the Office. My classmates think this is strange,but probably half of them(at least)don’t know about the original show.
Or maybe(someone else’s suggestion) he would be good as the Master…
Oh never mind, I just want to see him in Who at some point because of the awesome it would generate.
martin freeman (aka watson) is going to play bilbo baggins in the hobbit. he was also in hot fuzz and shaun of the dead and love actually. and i believe the first episode of black books.
He is? SQUEE! (Hem. *calms down inner fangirl*)
I’ve been looking forward to that since it was announced,since The Hobbit’s the only LOTR book I’ve read.
And yes, I know I need to read them, in my nonexistent spare time. I do believe high school’s going to kill me.
I heard some girls fangirling about Darren Criss at the conservatory.
Okay, this is probably going to forever wound a gazillion people, but why does everyone like Glee so much? The only times I’ve watched it, it was some guy singing karaoke.
Big Bang Theory one Friday (which is Thursday in the US)- Wheee!
Geeky TV shows… what about radio stations? This American Life and Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me?
Because some episodes are fantastic, and the rest I can blame on my staticky TV.
It may not be quite classifiable as a “geeky” TV show, but I love Community, on NBC. The most recent episode is fantastical. Anyone else like the show? Probably not.
…why probably not?
Iunno.
just worked out that when this episode ends i will have seen 250 episodes of doctor who (including new series)
…actually slightly more than that because i have seen some 4th and 5th doctor serials that i didn’t count. but shush.
i have a problem. a fantastic problem. i love my problem.
I started watching Doctor Who! I started watching Doctor Who! Oh my god, it was fantastic! There was David Tennant! There was a swordfight! There was Earth and places that weren’t Earth! I’ve got to go watch more!
I think I love you. *glomps*
I highly reccomend Blink. Amazazazing episode.
And now I can’t stop thinking in a British accent. God, I love it when that happens.
Oh me toooooo! I’ve been watching Doctor Who too, and I’m up to the third season, but Rose and the 10th doctor are definetly the best! I don’t like Martha. I’m comepletely obbsessed, as proven by the fact that I stayed up until 3 in the morning last night watching Doctor Who, and I keep quoting random quotes… So far the best episodes I’ve seen are “Tooth and Claw” “New Earth” “The Girl in the Fireplace” and “Shakespeare Code”. “I’m the Docter, and I just snogged Madame de Pompadour!” Doctor WHo is comepletely and utterly amazing.
Oh, I kind of skipped over Nine and went straight to David Tennant. *is a little embarrassed* Watching “Tooth and Claw” right now! Yay Victoria!
Do you watch Doctor Who on YouTube or what? Because I’ve been trying to watch the fourth season on YouTube but half of the episode it always missing.
Well… obviously I’m not posting a link. But do try Googling “I watch Doctor Who”, in quotations being best. It’s fantastic.
Thank you!
What did people think of the last ep of Glee? (Furt) I just watched it (I always end up seeing the Glee ep’s way later in the week…) and just haven’t heard anybody’s thoughts on it yet.
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Ok so Kurt leaving at the end? (Admittedly my first thought was “Yay! Now hopefully we’ll see more of Darren Criss!” *squeal* I have to admit, I have slightly mixed emotions about DC on Glee – I’m happy for him in the sense that he’s “really” famous now, but at the same time, I half feel like the grumpy fan who’s muttering “I knew about him back in his EARLY days”. Which of course is entirely un-true, I didn’t watch AVPM/AVPS until AVPS was already out, but in a way I’m just hoping he keeps doing Starkid stuff. I have no idea if he’ll be able to now that he’s on Glee, but in some interviews the Starkid people talk about the possibility of a third Very Potter, and it’s always like “but it depends on Darren” soo…I have no idea. I’m not even sure how much farther you can stretch A Very Potter either – first and second were amazing and hilarious obviously, and even though I have complete faith in them to make a good quality third, I just don’t know…) This is turning into a very off topic/rant-y post, so apologies about that.
But anyways, back to Glee: I liked the wedding, even though the dancing up the aisle was slightly odd I guess, but it’s a TV show, so it’s ok. All the Kurt bullying moments were sweet, (not the bullying, what the rest of the kids did for them), although Sam’s obviously snatched away by that cakin’ Quinn. And Sam’s proposal was sweet but semi creepy…
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Okay, first of all as a sort of a Finn/Kurt shipper (I’ve mostly moved on to Kurt/Blaine, since it’s so freaking adorable), Finn singing to Kurt and dancing with Kurt made me insanely happy. They should have used Kinn as their Portmanteau Couple Name, though. It’s more common in the fandom, it sounds less dumb, and it has awesome double meanings.
As for Kurt leaving, I’m definitely on the side of “Yay! This means more Darren Criss!” (Have you seen the Warblers doing “Hey, Soul Sister”?) And yes, I know what you mean, I keep wanting to say that I knew him first. (I first saw AVPM about a year ago, so I’ve been obsessed for awhile.) But frankly, being this well known has got to be his dream, so I don’t mind. Also, the Starkids are doing some sort of Star Trek and/or sci-fi parody in February, so there will be something.)
Back on topic, I actually quite like Quinn, although the Quinn/Sam pairing strikes me as extremely dull. I never wanted Kurt/Sam, though (I much prefer both Kurt/Blaine and Kurt/Finn), so Sam being straight doesn’t bug me. I sort of wish they’d at least play with the Quinn/Puck pairing, though. I don’t even like it that much, but they’ve just sort of ignored it. And them getting engaged (or pre-engaged or whatever) seems silly to me.
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1) My TV is somewhat broken, which is irritating.
2) I don’t know how I feel about Sam.
3) There have been better episodes.
Just watched the Season 2 finale of Doctor Who.
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Rose…
And he never got to tell her…
And he’s so alone…
Someone come share my pain.
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I cried when I watched that episode.It’s soooooooo sad. I liked Rose. She was awesome. And when he wasn’t able to say what he was going to…
“Rose Tyler…”
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I just watched the last episode of season four. And. The Master died. *sniffs* why do I always end up crying at the end of these seasons. I mean, the Master was evil and stuff, but it wasn’t his fault, he was mentally slightly insane. Now the Doctor’s really alone. And when he chose to die rather than regenerate and live with the Doctor…. *saddness* I have a feeling he’ll be back though. Somehow, someway.
It’s really, really, really funny in my opinion that Captain Jack is the Face of Boe. I didn’t exactly watch the first season… :/ I kind of skipped it, watched season two, then a few episodes of season five, then season three.
But still, Captain Jack is awesomely amazingful. And it is just really amusing that he’s the face of Boe.
Whaat. I’m sorry, please mentally replace “season four” with “season three”. I have no idea how that happened, or why I didn’t notice that before, but that is completely supposed to say ‘season three’. Ooops. *mentally hits head*
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I loved the Master. I thought he and the Doctor should get together. Now that he is dead, I am going to buy a plane ticket to England and quite calmly kill whichever writer it was that killed him.
On a related note, I wrote a How the Master Stole Christmas fanfiction for my friend Terpsichore. I’m actually very proud of it. I should post it…
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You should post the fanfiction!! It sounds funny!
Please post that fic. I’d love to read it.
Maybe after Terpsichore betas it. Also it’s a pity I can’t include the pictures in it…
“Don’t blink. Don’t even blink. Blink and you’re dead.”
*doesn’t have nearly enough eyes*
*goes and hides somewhere too small for a statue to fit*
103- That episode is so amaaazink!!!!!!! It’s terrifying though.
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This is kind of random, but I loved The Unicorn and the Wasp. The definite cluey atmosphere was just awesome, and I really liked the parts when the Doctor and Agatha Christie! (Seriously! That was halarious(sorry, no idea how to spell it) that the Doctor and Agatha Christie! are solving a mystery together…I really loved it) were questioning people and they go back into their memoriues and nobody is murdering anybody exactly, but they’re not quite doing what they say they are either…
It was a good episode, even if there are better ones.
I only have six more episodes to watch until there’s a new Doctor.
I am so very very very sorry for this completely despicable double post but I’m sorry- I just watched some very moving Doctor Who and I need to say this or I am going to explode!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OKAY THREE DOCTORS THIS CRAZINESS IS AWESOME
Kay, OMGEORGE THERE WERE THREE DOCTORS. THREE DOCTORS. THREE DOCTORS.
I was laughing hysterically when Donna was working the switches and stuff, and there were two identical Doctors just staring at each other and it was just so funeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
But then he had to remove the knowledge from her brain, and when it was all over he was still alone. ALONE I SAY
Donna was annoying at first, but as time went on and she stopped being so “take me home- wait, changed my mind” she was really okay and it’s just SAD.
Oh, and when New Doctor said the last line to Rose~! It is so comepletely heartwarming and squee-worthy and it made me very, very happy.
And now she can spend her life with the New Doctor, who while not exactly the same is still awesome and he’ll age and they’ll be amazing together and she’ll heal him
I wonder though, he left but he loved her and I think that it really hurt him to see Rose with somebody else even if the someone else was sort of him.
Do you think he’ll get over her?
I think the New Doctor said “I love you.”
He had such nice hair…
The Doctor Who Christmas Special comes out today, but my primary Doctor Who-watching website has been eaten! Does anyone know where the episode can be found?
Yes… but my two websites have not uploaded it yet. Aargh.
Got to see The Doctor Who Christmas Special!
(On YouTube, but it’s reversed left-right to avoid copyright discovery.)
Review:
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Production stuff
Visual effects: Absolutely amazing. The way Doctor Who is supposed to look- like the fantastical happenings are really there in front of the doctor. The fish, which probably would have been terrible any other time, were absolutely brilliant. Go back and watch an Old Series episode, or even an Eccleston Episode. Finally, Doctor Who gets the visuals it deserves.
Grade: A++
Audio: Again, amazing. Not much in the way of sound effects, but that’s ok. The background music was flammy, though. It always is in Doctor Who, that’s because Murray Gold is easily as much a genius as Stephen Moffat. It was heartwarming.
Grade: A+
Visual Design: STEAMPUNK-ISH! That’s awesome! (This is what, their 3rd Victorian inspired Christmas?) I mean, the sky-controller looked kinda like a pipe organ. The design team must have worked themselves to death, but it turned out flamablamablous!
Grade: A+
Acting: Great, as usual. Matt Smith was quirky, and he’s getting less like Tennant every day. (He lies a lot more too.) All the Kazrans were amazing too, especially when he didn’t hit the boy, and when he nearly hit his younger self. His emotional breakdown was SO realistic. I mean, even more realistic than reality.
Though Amy and Rory could have acted more panicky, especially Rory. He isn’t supposed to have as much faith in the Doctor as Amy!
Grade: A
Overall: A+
Plot stuff
General Plot: It’s Moffat, so it’s awesome. He really made it great, even better than he usually does. I mean, a shark carriage? That’s just… brilliant. Or better. Anway, it’s Moffat’s normal genius. I also loved how finally the Doctor doesn’t save the day in a linear fashion. I mean, with RTD, once the TARDIS landed in a certain time, it stayed there. It was also great to see Amy and Rory off by themselves, without the Doctor. I mean, it’s mentioned all the time, but finally shown on screen.
Grade: A+
Originality: For something based off of “A Christmas Carol”, it was actually pretty original. I mean, the Doctor actually made a reference to the fact that he was doing that to Kazran! For once, he acutally has some Genre Saviness!
Grade: A
Understandibility: For once, I actually got exactly what was happening the first time, except for the very end. I don’t get how singing made it snow. But everything else made sense! Even the going into the past made sense!
Grade: B+
Overall: A-
Great Big Overall Total
A+
Great job, Moffat. All the other Christmas Specials have gotten B’s or C’s (especially End Of Time. (yech.))
Sorry for the huge spoiler filled post!
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the singing resonated the ice crystals, breaking up the cloud cover. when the clouds were broken up, bits of them fell to earth as snow
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I loved the Christmas Special. It was emotional and dramatic and a very original take on A Christmas Carol. The way the Doctor pulled off Christmas Future was just brilliant. I was also very glad that Moffat made it clear that the Doctor was purposefully imitating Dickens’ novel. I can’t help but wonder exactly how Steven Moffat came up with the fish. They were amazing but aren’t something you’d immediately associate with the plot of A Christmas Carol. The visual effects and steampunk design were wonderful. All in all, in my opinion it’s the best Christmas Special yet.
And now that we’re halfway out of the dark (I didn’t get the double meaning until after the end of the episode) we get TRAILERS! I’m utterly astounded by this one. There are Ood! And the Doctor is president! And there’s another Doctor with a beard! The whole thing seems a little darker than previous series, though.
My friend Orion says the Doctor is “really annoying” and has told me that the show “is stupid”. May I kill him, please?
YES.
Absolutely. I shall help you.
…plus that will solve your romance problems…
whoooo’s on the third doctor?
ebeth is now on the third doctor!
that’s right, i’ve watched every single episode of the first two doctors (including reconstructions – so glad i’m done with those)
and now the show is in COLOR (mostly)
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Wow. What a good episode. Michael Gambon! It was like HP crashed with DW. I absolutely loved the flying fish, and I loved when they went back in time each Christmas Eve. I would love to see the Doctor married to Marilyn Monroe, haha. The mid-twenties Kazran actor was gorgeous. Overall, a great episode. Loved it, loved it, loved it.
Oh yeah, my mom got me two pins for Christmas- one has a Dalek and says “EXTERMINATE!” and the other says “The Doctor is my boyfriend.” Gotta love it.
Happy new year to everyone!
So what are people’s expectations for Doctor Who’s Sixth Series?
I think it’s going to be great, and it’s looking to be a serious, devoted, and varied run of episodes. Watch today’s trailer and tell me that it’s not going to be a more mature series; I really hope it returns to some of the style of classic Who.
Oh my god
Oh my god
Oh my god
This series looks like it’s going to be caking AMAZING. And it totally looks much more mature than previous series, Moffat has completely pwned RTD.
This has been the first trailer where the BBC had to cut ten seconds out in an alternate trailer for scary images. This is going to be great. Who needs to have some more darkness. Moffat edged into that territory last season, and now it seems he’s turning it up to eleven.
Did the trailer look like this series has a larger budget than the last? Were they saving up money last year?
I hope you’re right (I haven’t seen any previews yet). Series Five was good, and they still have to wrap some things up, so that will be interesting to watch. My only wish is that the Weeping Angels come back and Amy Pond goes away.
But Amy pond is awesome. Haven’t seen the trailer yet cuz I’m at home and our connection is dreadfully slow when it comes to streaming things but I’m dfinitely optimistic that its going to be a pretty good series
Doctor Who is geeky? D:
So, just finished watching Season 5 on DVD. Pretty good, as a whole. Favorite episodes: Amy’s Choice and the Silurian one. I didn’t like the new Weeping Angel episode even though Blink is my all-time favorite; the new episode brought in too many new rules about the Angels, and there were no cool time paradoxes, just random neck snapping.
Does anyone know if there was a Christmas special between seasons 4 and 5? It wasn’t on the DVD.
JW:
I think it’s either that or cheap computer graphics are getting better (which they are).
OKAY TIME FOR THEORIZING!
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What do we know?
-Pirate ship episode (multiple shots of people on a ship, some of the people pale with their mouths wide open.) I’m going out on a limb here and guessing that this will feature the return of those monsters in The Unquiet Dead. Kind of obvious when you think about how the pale people with their mouths open look like the inhabited dead people. And the blue ghost girl that one guy approaches. So I’m guessing that will be episode 9, Mark Gatiss.
-Creepy clown. Judging from the decor, it looks like it’ll take place in a hotel filled with disturbing stuff. This might also be the Gatiss episode, because The Unquiet Dead was originally going to take place in a hotel.
-Gaiman episode- Apparently called “The Doctor’s Wife” So I think that will have the character Idris, said by the BBC to play, well, the Doctor’s wife. Spaceships seen in this trailer, as well as just the Doctor and Idris running.
-Dollhouse episode- If you look at the very beginning of the newest trailer, you see someone’s pale, creepy flesh. They’re bent over to the side. Next shot? A doll in that same position. *shudder*
-Finale- Okay, this looks amazing. The voiceover (I’ve killed HUNDREDS of Timelords) seems like it’s going to be from the finale. My pet theory is that it’s one of the things that 10 said were returning “The could have been king with his army of…”
School calls! Au Revoir
There should be a Weeping Angel wall calendar. “I swear it had its hands over its eyes last month …”
there should also be weeping angel garden gnomes…
Oh, how I miss David Tennant. I rewatched some Season 3 and 4 episodes and I want him back. The End of Time was simply fantastic, what with getting into the Doctor’s character and his relationship with the Master. I feel like some of that depth is missing with Matt Smith, and Amy Pond has the ability to annoy me like no other. I really, really hope Season Six is good.
Bring back David!
Why don’t you like Amy? And why do you feel that Matt is not as deep?
Honestly, I thought that End of Time was RTD’s last few dying throes, and him just trying to confuse everyone as much as possible while still having a script and a plot. In America and Canada, they chop 15 minutes off for advertisments. It was, according to some reports, un-understandable.
I just find her to be vain and self-centered. She got a bit better as series five went on, but I still don’t like her nearly as much as the other companions. For example, in the first episode, the Doctor had twenty minutes to save the earth and what does she do? Instead of helping him, she traps him (with his tie and the car) and demands that he answer all of HER questions. Hello, priorities! It’s all about her, never mind the planet or anyone else. Later, she tries to seduce the Doctor and doesn’t seem to understand that he’s not interested. She thinks she’s so hot, and when the bursts of understanding come (The Beast Below) they actually seem out of character.
As far as the new Doctor, I feel like we’ve lost some of that haunted quality the tenth Doctor had near the end of his life. At the end of season 4 and the specials, we started to see the dark side of the Doctor–the pride, ego, and the choices he made–which was so interesting and made the Doctor more real, but now we’re back to zaniness. And zaniness is great, but it seems oddly lighthearted after fighting your nemesis and your race, AGAIN.
That’s just my opinion. Don’t misunderstand me, I do like Season Five, but I will always be a Tenth Doctor fan. Still, we’re allowed to disagree. After all, we’re all Mu–
If someone had abandoned you when you were a child and suddenly showed up again claiming the earth would end in 20 minutes, would you believe them?
Also, she _is_ so hot.
I actually think that Matt Smith is a better Doctor than Tennant. If I had to choose one to have tea with, tennant all the way, but Matt Smith _is_ the Doctor. Tennant was too human, too whiny – to me, Smith hits just the right note of alien inscrutability. The only thing I don’t like about his doctor is that he’s kind of incompetent.
If a great big spaceship appeared in the sky and yelled, “We are going to incinerate the Earth in twenty minutes,” I would save my questions for twenty minutes.
I won’t pick an argument about hotness because that will get us nowhere.
Except they didn’t yell that they’d incinerate the Earth in 20 minutes. They just said they’d incinerate the Earth. It’s the Doctor who figured it out that it would happen in 20 minutes in a way that nobody else on Earth could understand. That’s why Amy didn’t believe him- she didn’t know anything he was talking about.
They didn’t even say “the Earth” – they said “the Human Residence”
My doctor is Eccleston.
We-ell, as much as I like Matt Smith, Tennant was the one who _was_ the Doctor for me. I feel like the Doctor was trying to deal with his post-Time War angst, and that’s why he comes off as whiny. The moment when Ten solidified for me was The Girl in the Fireplace, because, y’know, he beats up the monster beneath her bed. Any Doctor who not only admits there’s a monster underneath your bed, but beats it up, is Doctor enough for me.
I am officially cutting myself off from Doctor Who spoilers, with this post being the contract. Oh, it’s only nineteen days away…
You know, for some reason Doctor Who doesn’t really appeal to me. There are no Vulcans in it.
Speaking of which, I’m re-watching season 7 of The Next Generation. I find it hard to like Data because he’s basically meant as a replacement for Spock, but nothing can ever replace Spock. Also, LaForge’s computerized eyes are kind of creepy, and there are a lot of close-ups of them.
I miss Spock. Spock is so incredibly awesome.
By the way, I can’t figure out if DeForest Kelley is a really bad actor, or if he just has stupid lines.
True, its lack of Vulcans can be problematic, but I love Doctor Who and I think you should give it a try.
Having only watched one episode of TNG(The Big Goodbye) I can’t say much about Data, but I liked him. Although having listened to a certain Voltaire song I’m not sure I’ll ever be able to take him seriously.
The USS Make **** Up?
No, The Sexy Data Tango actually. That one’s pretty funny too, but requires being more of a Trekkie than I am to fully understand it.
there are other prosthetic forehead aliens, so Trek fans can bond easily. I am a fan of both, and can tell you that it is very possible to like both.
Am I the only one who saw this in the recent comments bar and automatically thought “They Might Be Giants!”?
I’m afraid I actually don’t get the reference; what song is it to?
It’s a reference to “I Want A Rock,” this song by They Might Be Giants.
That was my intention. “and wear it on my real head…”
Nothings can ever replace Spock? That’s why I wasn’t interested in TNG for a long time. I couldn’t imagine Star Trek without a Vulcan main character. The one episode of TNG I have watched is Lower Decks, and I also saw Star Trek: Generations, but that doesn’t really give me a good idea of what it’s like.
Guess who has now watched the first episode of Glee?
That’s right, it’s shadowfire. Hold the applause, please. It was actually pretty decent, I might watch more once I’m finished with Torchwood and have the time.
JUST SAW THE IMPOSSIBLE ASTRONAUT.
*hides in corner (because, you know, sofas have shadows)*
I LOVED IT
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Although I think it would have been really impossible to understand for anyone who hadn’t seen Series 5.
I was also surprised when it ended, because I thought “What? We still barely know anything about what’s going on!” But that’s Steven Moffat for you…
Can’t wait for part two!
*looks behind me*
What’s the point? You forgot (again).
I need to come up with a visual system for reminding myself if my memory’s been wiped. I’ll carry a pen with me at all times!
I was watching it with a friend who had seen about two episodes of Series 5, and she understood it (I did explain to her who River Song was, though)
I’m so confused I don’t even know what to think…..I felt like I was getting more and more lost as it progressed, although I did know what the “very important thing Amy was going to tell the Doctor and had to tell him RIGHT NOW was”, lol.
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Okay. Some complex theories here.
Theory 1. The astronaut is River Song as a little girl.
Theory 2. The astronaut is Amy’s daughter.
Theory 3. The astronaut is both. That means that Amy’s daughter is River Song. Very unlikely, but it was fun coming up with it.
That’s not complex. This is complex (And fairly insane)
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The astronaut is Amy’s daughter. However, it is not Rory’s child, it is the Doctor’s. That makes it half Time Lord. However, that’s not the whole story. It grows up eventually to become River Song, making her half Time Lord. However, the Chameleon Arch (Turns Time Lords into humans) malfunctions, and she becomes a full Time Lord. Because of this, she is called back to Gallifrey. There, she meets the Doctor’s father, and River becomes the Doctor’s mother. The story isn’t finished yet, though. The Doctor does not know this, and he is Chamelon Arched into Britain, hiding from the Silence. He keeps living there until 1989, when River meets him. She is not his mother yet, and he does not know her, but the have a child and leave her to two parents, Augustus and Tabetha Pond, who believe she’s their own, and name her Amy Pond. Doctor is Amy’s mother and River’s mother (making him is own grandfather), River is both the Doctor’s mother and Amy’s mother (making her her own grandmother), and Amy is River’s mother (making her her own grandmother). Confused yet?
Now that is a complex theory.
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I also think that the astronaut is Amy’s daughter. I’m just confused because she and the Doctor never got it on (except after the whole weeping angels episode when she tried to kiss him but that didn’t go far at all).
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I think that Amy is pregnant with Rory’s child. Thus, I don’t really believe Enceladus’ theory, though it is interesting.
You do realize that this was a joke, right?
Yes.
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There are some theories that Amy was sick after seeing the Silent because she’s pregnant. River was also sick- she must be pregnant too. Rory was sick too…. hummm…
BAHAHAHA
If my friend M saw this, she’d be dashing off to write an MPreg fanfic. *shudders* Sometimes my friends are a little bit disturbing.
Rory: How did it happen, again, Doctor?
Doctor: I’m really not sure, perhaps it involves time travel.
Rory: Well, I’ll look after our child.
*passionate noncanon kiss*
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I just don’t understand why she found it so extremely important to tell the Doctor that she was pregnant, and not be as eager to tell Rory. Maybe he already knew, but I can’t see why it would be such a life and death matter to the Doctor if he’s not involved with it.
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Perhaps Rory already knows? Perhaps she’s not actually, and the Silence put that in her brain to stop her from mentioning them?
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I kind of agree with this one. It just seemed a little bit random (though it did occur to me when she said she felt sick) and I don’t know why she had to tell the Doctor so urgently…Or she really is pregnant but that’s not what she had to tell him but the Silence erased everything else so she thought that was what she had to tell him.
Or more happened with them than we know… But that doesn’t really seem in the Doctor’s character (if it was someone else, maybe… but not Amy).
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My first thought when she said that was “The Doctor got her pregnant?!”. But surely it’s Rory’s… my mind comes up with enough disturbing ideas without them being encouraged by my getting it right.
It did seem like she wanted to say something else, but didn’t have the nerve(or forgot), so she said that.
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This is so hilarious going back and reading this and realizing that you’re right.
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So I watched Impossible Astronaut this morning. It was fantastic and I can’t wait for next week and so on.
Also, I have several theories for the future.
First, Craig Owens is coming back. I’ve suspected this for a long time, primarily because on the BBC site, he’s on the list of ‘characters’, and all the other people there are either famous historical figures or regular companions. Also, his bio specifically says that he doesn’t think the Doctor will come back.
Secondly, the time machine from The Lodger has come back. Presumably. At least, it looks extremely similar and that can’t be coincidence. This further supports my Craig Owens coming back theory.
Third, ‘Time can be rewritten’ appears to be becoming an arc word.
And lastly, according to the BBC website, these mysterious aliens are known as ‘The Silence’. Silence will fall, anyone?
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One person pointed out that if the tunnels that lead to the Lodger TARDIS go all over the Earth, does that mean the Earth is a TARDIS?
It’s dimensionally transcendental the other way!
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I vote one of the Silence trips over an electrical cord and does a faceplant.
Ba-da-bum-shhhhh.
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I think River Song is the Rani.
*walks away whistling*
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Since the Doctor died (even if it’s in the future) does that mean that the series will end with him and we won’t get a new Doctor?
The Rani is a renegade Time Lord from the original series. She is an unconventional villain, because unlike the Master, she does her “evil” deeds not to intentionally cause harm, but For Science!
Everyone is the Rani. A producer will eventually actually bring the Rani back, just to mess with everyone.
That’s television for you…
SPOILERS POSSIBLY FOR THE IMPOSSIBLE ASTRONAUT AND THE REST OF DOCTOR WHO SEASON SIX.
For those of you grieving over Matt Smith: Guess who else is a Time Lord, died, got cremated, and still came back?
tap-tap-tap-tap…
Dear POSOC,
I ♥ you.
That had not occurred to me. This plants interesting ideas in my head. Like maybe he’ll come back EVIL. That would be cool.
Ahh, whoops. Does that count as a spoiler?
Perhaps he’ll come back as the Valeyard? He was getting close in Amy’s Choice…
The Valeyard is known to have existed around the Doctor’s twelfth incarnation… which, indeed, is the next one due.
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I still like the theory that the girl is the master. Though I always thought she was River Song.
True… cremation must be a time lord thing…
I am suffering from an advanced case of TARDIS (Troubling Addiction Regarding Doctor who Inflammatory Syndrome). you get it from watching all of series 5 in three days, and then seeing the Impossible Astronaut, and then, after absorbing massive amounts of Who, you must wait a week to find out who’s (no pun intended, probably…) dead. Symptoms include gasping “the fez….! The fez……!” at random intervals, making Dalek shaped cookie jars in clay class, learning useful life skills such as origami bowtie making, running around with your origami bowtie, a makeshift fez, and some kitchen utensil shouting high pitched noises at the top of your voice, reciting Monty Python in Dalek voices, and finding it the funniest thing in the world that your aunt used to have a tenant named David. I have been suffering all of these symptoms, and more.
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Such a flammy episode! Series 6 definitely looks amazing. I am a hyper ball of Doctor Who energy practically vibrating from my sheer desire to watch all of it. I have never been obsessed like this since the days of Harry. I am including Mr. Moffat into the church of Ooba, if not converting, regardless of being the prophet. I was a little upset that the beautiful potential for a David Tennant revival was not used (“Love from the Doctor, 1969”? In Blink, the Doctor was in 1969. Now Matt Smith also was. the younger Doctor could have been David Tennant! Apart from that, it was an amazazazazazaaaaazing episode. I mourn the Doctor’s death, but mostly as an affront to the Doctor’s dignity as a main character. The Doctor is not a red shirt! You can’t kill him off before the second add break!
Anyway, I have my own theory. I’m all with the “silence will fall” idea. The room where River and Rory are trapped is definitely the same one as in The Lodger. Same time machine that could blow up the cosmos if the Doctor touched it. since we never saw the aliens in The Lodger, they could be the same. The spacesuit dude, however, is not one of the “silents” as I’ve heard them referred to. People don’t forget it after they look away, and it’s weapon is different. Otherwise, Amy would not have had a corpse to cry over, since the Doctor would have been blown up, like the woman in the bathroom. I could buy any of the ideas about it being Amy jr. or River, or some demented combination of the above. It might even be Rory’s child, and not Amy’s , as I have heard some discussion that Rory could be pregnant. Who knows ?(no pun intended) , but I find River slightly more believable, since she is in jail for murder, although she doesn’t say who (no pun intended) she killed. Also, River says, at some point that she doesn’t fear death because she has a worse fate coming for her. Apart from a dementors kiss, and I have to say that the “silents” look a bit like cloakless pink dementors, one of the only fates worth than death that I can think of is killing your own boyfriend, and the only guy who can reliably save the universe, in front of your own eyes twice (the ones killing him, and yourself as a future spectator), and not being able to interfere, even if you made the wrong choice, for fear of a time paradox. Even worse if he knows he’s going to die (which he does, presumably, from the gasoline), and will probably know it was you.
A sidenote on the topic of the Doctor’s death. Why are they all so careful not to tell him that he dies in the future? Judging from the gasoline, he already knew.
Back to the “silents’ (forgive my lack of orginization…) They have obviously been on earth for a long time. The really old tunnels would suggest that, as would having two time machines. They could also pass unnoticed for a long time using their ability to make others forget ever seeing them. I also don’t think that the little girl in the phone calls really exists. The other time machine lured people in with pleas for help, and this time machine probably does the same. Can you think of better doctor bait than a little kid pleading for him to save her from some alien menace? On this note, is spaceman the spacesuit, or the alien? Hmmm…
The “not fighting an invasion, leading a revolution” line intrigued me. Who’s revolution? the human’s, against possibly thousands of years of alien tyranny that they don’t remember, or the alien’s against the humans for an earth that they think belongs to them? Is the Doctor leading this revolution voluntarily, or not? Also, in the Vampires of Venice, crustacean queen mentions fleeing through cracks, some of which had silence through them. Silence will fall? relation with the former crack in Amy’s wall? Come to think of it, I think prisoner zero mentioned something like that too…
Basically, I think that the silents are the Lodger aliens, who have been there a long time, and possibly want the earth (back?). They want the Doctor to fly their time machine, and won’t listen to reason, even “it’s going to blow up the universe” reason. The Doctor runs so he doesn’t blow up the universe (“running harder than ever before”), and for some reason he needs to die. He also needs the help of his friends to get back once he does, and all is fixed, so he invites them all. It must be pretty important, because it would be very sadistic for the Doctor to invite all your friends over, to a pickinick even, so they can watch you die. He leaves them a series of clues on how to get him back, and asks River/Amy jr, to kill him. This is done, and everyone is sad, but they follow the clues. The aliens don’t want them to succeed, but a dead Doctor is no good to them either, so that’s why they’ve been following them, but haven’t killed anyone …yet. The astronaut suit’s inhabitant watches them to make sure all goes well, and when things are starting to look bad, she interferes to help. Unfortunately, she underestimated that Amy is in a very bad mood, so upset about the Doctor’s death that she isn’t really thinking straight, and pregnant, and doesn’t really expect Amy’s shooting her. Now we have a potential time paradox on our hands, and a dead time paradox expert = really bad.
So that’s my insane theorization.
Did anyone else notice how popular the fez was? 3 fez references! There was also a possible Blink reference 11th Hour reference, and HHG2G reference.
The other day, i was having a chat with my friend, and weeping angels came up, as well as the question of how they know when to turn to stone, and why can’t you kill stone? anyway, we decided to solve this with “Science!”, and the most Doctor-y science we could think of was quantum physics, so we decided that weeping angels are like electrons, in that the mere state of observing them changes their position, which sort of made sense. What did not make sense was the “Schrödinger’s weeping angel” experiment, involving a weeping angel, stuck in the TARDIS with a mirror, a eye-hole, and a vial of poison gas. What happens if the weeping angel pulls the lever of the TARDIS, and goes back in time 12 seconds and sends you back to 1960 at the exact second that you look? Schrödinger’s cat meets classic time paradox! Amazing! I love science!
That was a ridiculously long post, so I will end it here and now.
You know you’re addicted to anything to do with tardigrades when you read the first bit of that in the RC Bar and think ‘Tardigrades in Space’ before ‘thing from Doctor Who.’
Just watched The Impossible Astronaut. (Managing to catch it before the BBC took it down. I am a ninja)
Doctor Who: Proof that a TV show does not need a large special effects budget to be completely caking terrifying. Gaaahhhhh.
So, here we go again. Back to avid discussions about every new Who episode as it comes out, with a few people mentioning other shows. One of the reasons why I like MuseBlog.
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What the cake what the cake what the cake just happened?
Who is that eye patch lady? (NO IDEA. But I’m guessing something to do with the Dream Lord. “No, I think she’s dreaming”)
Who is that little girl? (Amy’s daughter (with the Doctor?) young River? GAH)
what the cake what the cake what the cake what the cake
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That about sums it up. This episode didn’t really explain, just showed and asked us to guess.
Anyway, I’m not going for the ‘it’s the Doctor’s child’ theory. Children’s show and all that. I think the child just has a ‘time head’.
I’m a bit curious as to why she’s living in a children’s home in 1969, instead of staying with Amy. Also about the full body scan that showed both pregnant and not pregnant. My sister’s theory was that it couldn’t figure out whether she was pregnant or not because the girl isn’t the same species as the mother. Which makes some amount of sense, I suppose…
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I think it has to be Amy’s little girl. I find it hard to believe that she would have had it from the Doctor though. Maybe it’s the Doctor and River’s? Or maybe River is an older version of Amy? I’m so confused.
Also, i kind of wanted to go give Rory a big hug when Amy’s voice was coming out of the tracker, when she had been captured by the Silents. Especially when she was giving that “stupid-face, fell out of the sky” speech. I was sure it was about the Doctor. I’m confused about that little triangle, as well. Rory’s just so innocent and cute and huggable, and the best hero ever. I really want him and Amy to be together.
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Amy has Schroedinger’s baby!
Exactly my thought.
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Oh man, creepy episode last night. I missed like, the first three minutes, and I was confused for the whole episode. Great episode, though. I loved Rory’s glasses.
Anyway, I will say this again: Moffat is such a troll. He just likes to mess with our heads.
Also, that little girl is a Time Lord (Time Lady?), right? Soooooooo, if she’s Amy’s child and a Time Lord, then she’s The Doctor’s child? :O Scandal.
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This episode made me so, very, paranoid. Especially that creepy rattly-breath noise that came up whenever a Silent appeared. And the astronaut’s breathing. Artificial breathing still scares me, and I scuba dive. Should be used to it by now, but it still creeps me out.
What happened to the guy in the orphanage? Is he still there? (I had a couple fridge horror moments when watching this. He’s reminding himself to get out, but each time he just forgets again.)
Maybe the girl is Jenny. You know, the Doctor’s daughter. That’d be interesting…
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Okay, I just wanted to say that the creepy rattly-breath of the Silents sounds a lot like the soundtrack to the amazing Old Who story, Pyramids of Mars.
Darth Vader!!!!!!!!!!!! (*creepy artificial breathing noise*)
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Again, this whole plot line would work out so much more smoothly is River Song was a future version of Amy. That still leaves Rory screwed over, but at least things would make a tad more sense.
Also, don’t the Silents seem a bit dementor-esque?
They struck me as being remarkably like the Slenderman, with the added bonus of a nightmare face. Urghhhh…
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I just watched it (really, really late! And now my mother tells me that we actually do have cable TV. I didn’t even know we had a functional TV!) Very, Very creepy! I loved Moffat’s decision to stop showing us the silents, and only let us see what the characters remembered, and their frantically blinking hands. Amazing! Of course, when an episode shows you so much, and explains so little, it can only mean one thing: series plot arc! This is cool, because we still don’t know if the Doctor dies in the future, and I don’t think we will until the end of the series. And the silents will be back. No one spends that much energy setting up a plot in the previous series only to use it for two episodes. They will be back! Silence will fall! Series 6 is showing quite a lot of promise…
I can’t decide if I want to worship Moffat for the excellent plot idea, and cake scary episode, or strangle him for messing with us like this. I agree. The best fun of writing a TV show must be the sadistic joy of being able to mess with millions of fans worldwide. I think I shall settle with not strangling him, since if I did, he wouldn’t be able to write the next episode, and I would go insane.
What interests me is that the little girl regenerated at the end of the episode. Since regeneration cycles can change appearance, and even age so drastically, that little girl, whether she was the Doctor’s child, young River, someone else, or any combination, she could be anyone by now. Appearance is no longer a factor.
Speaking of geeky TV shows, has anyone heard anything about the Neil Gaiman, Terry Prattchet, and Terry Jones collaboration on the TV series of the book “Good Omens” yet?
I should probably get off the computer and go to bed, or finish my (sadly outdated) comic titled “Dalek’s adventures on the stair planet”
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I honestly think that the episode would have worked better if they never showed the Silents in focus, just a blur in the background approaching…
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The most obvious conclusion is that the Doctor got Amy pregnant and the little girl is their kid. If that’s what actually happens, I’m going to scream. But I doubt it’s that simple. Agrrrfishi- Maybe? Certainly less disturbing than what I just came up with. Errata- Because they’re not the same species? Also possible.
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I feel sorry for River Song. In this two-parter (can’t remember the exact moment) she says something like “One day, that man’s going to look into my eyes and have no idea who I am… and it’s going to break me.” Her heroic sacrifice in Forest of the Dead suddenly seemed so much more tragic… and then I realized that she got resurrected through her Data Ghost and uploaded to the Library core… forced to spend an eternity without the Doctor.
The speculation about the Valeyard makes me wonder… Did the person in the space suit try to kill the Doctor permanently because en knew his next incarnation would be evil? But en inadvertently caused the Doctor to Come Back Wrong. Or maybe the Valeyard was in the suit, ensuring that he would come into existence.
But on reflection, that doesn’t work out… The Doctor sent out all the invitations, including one to himself. He had the ex-FBI agent bring gasoline to incinerate his body. He cautioned everybody to do nothing to stop what was about to happen. He engineered the circumstances of his own death. He said he’d been running away from something and it was time to stop… so he brought together everyone he trusted and set them on the trail of the Silence after he died. Maybe the person in the space suit was pursuing him through all of space and time, an instrument of the Silence’s revenge. (Remember, they had the suit built.)
I still like the idea of his next incarnation being evil. Maybe a grief-stricken Amy tries to bring him back through something similar to the method used on the Master… but the part of the Doctor’s personality that manifested itself as the Dream Lord, all his hate and loneliness and self-loathing, comes back dominant. Say hello to the Valeyard, everybody!
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That might work… but I think that would be far too many copies of the Doctor running around just to make his various love interests happy.
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I do like the evil Doctor theories though. The Doctor being evil would be really cool, and there could be lots of opportunities for interesting subplots if that were to happen.
I have my own theory for who the girl is. I think that the baby is part Time Lord , and part silent. The reason that no one remembers it, and that it is both there and not there are all because it is wiping everyone’s memory, even as an infant. I have no good theories for how this happened, but it was obviously forgotten by everyone, since a Silent was involved. This would be cool for the plot because Rory doesn’t know if the baby’s his, and, although we are supposed to assume he does, the Doctor doesn’t know either, because they both forgot. I’m sorry, that was a little bit creepy.
Does anyone else think that the Silents are supposed to be a play on the men in black (You know, the urban myth about aliens or government spies who cover up alien sightings)?
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I don’t see any love triangle? The doctor is rapidly becoming with River, which I think is awesome, and Amy and Rory are together. Rory feels a bit insecure, but that’s just Rory. I don’t like it when the companions have unrequited crushes on the Doctor, and while Doctor / Rose was nice I think it contributed to the Doctor becoming a bit too human. Doctor / River, though, I think is fine because they really are essentially equals and opposites and complement each other.
So your theory is that Rory and the Doctor had a baby together? Also, I don’t see anyone forgetting the little girl. The Doctor just doesn’t want to deal with it right now.
Yeah, Moffett’s stated silence are partly inspired by the Men in Black, partly by the painting The Scream.
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Not that I didn’t absolutely love the pirate episode, but I’m kind of irked that the spaceman/silence storyline hasn’t been immediately continued.
Plus, Amy and Rory are so freakin’ adorable. And also, I’m gonna steal Matt Smith. kthxbye.
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I didn’t like this latest episode. It didn’t pull me along on its own and I didn’t like how it seemed to have merely thrown in the parts with eyepatch lady and Amy’s Schrodinger’s baby to have a bit of continuity. I didn’t like the alien this episode. She seemed rather blah and like the person writing it was flailing about for an antagonist and thought “sirens! I’ll do sirens!” Also, since when is it a) a good idea to let pirates run off with an alien space ship unless you want Firefly to start, b) possible for said pirates to know how to pilot an alien spaceship immediately after boarding.
What oxlin said.
River Song is the Chuck Norris of Doctor Who.
River Song can watch an Angel move
There is no Evolution of the Daleks- only the ones River left alive.
River can shoot a Silent without looking at it
River Song doesn’t get assimilated- the Cybermen get River Song’d
River Song can fly the TARDIS using only the blue stabilizers
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I enjoyed this episode. I didn’t…love the other two (don’t attack, please) but HEY THERE WAS AMY! IN A PIRATE COSTUME! Ahem. I tend to like the goofy parts of Doctor Who best, as opposed to the Oh-Rose-I-Love-You-Why-Are-you-leaving-me-etc. (Although I did cry when Rose and the Doctor said good-bye..anyway.) Too much drama. Also, I don’t usually like the doom-and-gloom-and-death-and-screaming parts as much–creepiness like in Blink is where I draw my limit.
I love when they take myths (Sirens, ghosts in a Christmas Carol, I’m sure there’s more but I can’t really remember them.) and put their own slant on it. Yeah, it’s ridiculous, yes, it’s not always oppressive villans, but I guess that’s what I like about Doctor Who–the lack of seriousness all the time. (I’ll be over here in the corner, laughing at various hilarities.) I suppose that it’s completely unrealistic to have pirates on the ship in space, but c’mon. Since when has Doctor Who ever been realistic?
<3<3<3 Pirates! And SIRENS! AND CREEPY REFLECTIONS!!!
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I LOVED THIS EPISODE.
Also, I totally ship the Doctor/TARDIS slash pairing now.
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The Doctor’s Wife was amazing. There is not much more to say.
Pun intended? (Ship, TARDIS…)
Yesterday I went on a boat in Boston Harbor. When we got on, the captain said “Hello everyone! I’ll be your captain today. My name is *Jack*” I SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEed so hard that I almost fell over. Then my friend and I began bouncing up and down so hard that we landed on the roof of the cabin (we were on the top deck, and the cabin’s roof was raised about 2 feet), which led to a discussion about whether it was ok to sit on dead people’s heads.
A while back, I thought about how funny it would be if a bunch of MuseBloggers got on a boat and the captain’s name happened to be Jack Reynolds. Half of them would be laughing at “Captain Jack”, and half of them would start laughing at “Captain Reynolds” and the guy would probably not know anything about either show and just look at them funny.
Either that, or he could be named captain Picard…
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My favorite part of the episode was when the Doctor mentioned that the Corsair was sometimes she. Well, one of my favorite parts. The episode was really good.
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Neil Gaiman is quite amazing. He understands Doctor Who very well for a guest writer, and he did a good job of getting the characters right, especially the TARDIS. He would make a good permanent writer for the series if I didn’t also want him to write books. I liked the episode a lot. The TARDIS seemed very Bellatrix-y, minus most of the evil, which was cool. One can definitely tell that Gaiman is a Tennant fan. I did like the visiting the old control panels too. Great episode! And on June 12, I get to see it shown IN A MOVIE THEATER, ON THE BIG SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!! Yesssssssssssss!!!!!
I recently heard a rumor that the 3rd H2G2 book was originally a plot for a Doctor Who episode that was never made, written by Douglass Adams after he wrote one episode of Doctor Who. He then changed the characters, and turned it into a book in the H2G2 series, or so the story goes. Confirmation, anyone?
You heard correctly. Life, The Universe, and Everything began as Doctor Who and the Krikketmen.
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Ooh, new episode was delightfully creepy. I can’t believe they’re making us wait two weeks, though. *disgruntled noise*
I do like these new villains, and the Doctor ganger was super weird. The only thing this episode that slightly annoyed me was the whole Rory/Jennifer dynamic. I mean, I get that he’s trying to be the “defender/protector” type guy for her, but it feel s like more than that. Not to mention, he abandoned Amy and the Doctor in order to find Jennifer, which is very unlike Rory. He’s supposed to be completely devoted to Amy, who, this entire time, is just standing on the sidelines nodding her head. I guess it’s good to see him step outside his character, but I don’t really like it.
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Being annoyed at the Rory/Jennifer thing is OK. I was very opposed to it as well. What is the problem with romancy stuff in this series? Rory/Amy/Even partially the Doctor have not been their proper selves when romance is involved. It is indeed getting on my nerves.
I also like the new episode. For some reason (probably my chatting obsessively and constantly while watching it) I missed the entire “They’re in an acid plant” plot point, so about half way through the episode I asked my friend “So, what’s with all the acid squirting everywhere?” This was a major facepalm moment.
I like all the doppelgangers, for being both cool and creepy, as well as bringing up interesting identity issues. I am looking forward to seeing how the Doctor is going to react to having another one of himself, even though he is mostly for the protection of the doppelgangers of others. I personally think that anyone who is worried about the Doctor ganger is severely underestimating the Doctor. The doppelgangers don’t seem to be “evil”, they simply have the same exact brain as their other self, but put in a considerably different situation. For other people this might lead to violence, but definitely not the Doctor. In fact, we seem to have the perfect solution to a situation like this one (Acid everywhere, TARDIS trouble, alien relationships, everyone being insane), two Doctor’s who can be in two places at once, one of whom has good relations with the humans, and the other who can connect with the duplicates, working together with two brains of the Doctor’s awesomeness to solve a tricky situation. The Doctor is sort of used to having more than one of himself, so it’s not that big a deal for him. Regardless, I can’t wait (most definitely not two weeks!) to see how that resolves…
No one seems to be responding to my doctor Who comments so Star trek anyone?
That sounds like a plan.
What’s your favourite series?
I’m a TNG person, who is currently halfway through the 4th season, which I think is my favorite…
Re: The Almost People
WAT WAT WAT WAT
Especially at the end.
tearjerker- 9.5/10
(GAPAs–I forget if this is the right email, but it’s still me.)
So. The Almost People.
WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
Like, whoa. How long has Amy been Flesh? All season? Did the Silence do it to her? Schroedinger’s baby makes total sense now, and that’s about all that does. BUT. The Doctor’s all “Oh, the Flesh is like human and it’s great and equality” and then he just explodes Flesh-Amy like she wasn’t a person! What’s with that?
Argh. This is going to be a long week.
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Perhaps he thought that flesh on its own was equal, but being used in place of someone didn’t count (i.e. their experiences = the flesh experiences)
I love how Moffat can even make midwives terrifying.
The week will be short compared to the 3 months between next week’s episode (the first half of a two parter) and the 8th episode(the second half of the two parter) in September….I’m not looking forward to that.
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That’s the impression I got too. The Flesh is only human when it’s not being used as a ‘puppet’ for someone else. Once they became sentient he considered them to be real people.
I loved the beginning where Ganger!Doctor quoted a bunch of his previous selves. Though at “Reverse the jelly baby of the neutron flow” it should’ve been funny but started being kind of sad.
Just watched DW “The Almost People” and all I can say is: What. The. Cake. jfelsdkhglsdkfjkldshgldskfj
I hope we get everything answered before the end of this season, because honestly I think otherwise it runs the risk of becoming too overly complicated, with each new episode just adding more questions and not answering enough…..
THEORY!!!!!!
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Very nice episode, but the near end upset me because the Doctor ganger totally could have run to the TARDIS and made an escape with the others. That “Heroic sacrifice” was both clichéd and unnecessary. Apart from that, I liked it though. Can’t wait to see what happens… That “To be continued” was an evil twist of sadism Moffat! For some reason the words just amplified my anger at Moffat for doing this to us (I’m a week behind you guys because I am watching Who with a friend who I don’t see as often as I would like, and am juggling new Who and going back to watch series 1) Sometimes I think that Moffat is trying to deter our affection and make us all hate him… or maybe he’s just that evil and likes to mess with our brains regardless of what we think of him…
I think that the Doctor who died in impossible astronaut was actually the ganger, who was rescued from Jennifer later in the series…
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Wow. Stephen Moffat, you have done it again. Hints being dropped in ways that make sense, focusing not on scale like Davies did but on plot and visuals (I think that that’s the main difference- Davies is all OMG AWESOME STUFF NAO EMOTION EPIC BATTLE and Moffat is much, much more subtle)
This whole episode was perfectly paced- it felt like I was actually there with them, not sitting, waiting for stuff to happen. I was getting impatient during the REVEAL but honestly that how I should have felt. Rory and Amy had no idea who River was- and neither did the viewers.
And the visuals were out of this world.
Now that we have to wait until the fall, what do you suppose we do in the mean time? Let’s go kill Hitler. (Ohemgee, that episode sounds amazazazazazazing.)
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I am so, so amazed by this episode. I should have guessed who River was such a long time ago. All I’m wondering right now is, how long has he known her exactly? Since she was a very little girl? And if so, as we go through their timeline, will she get younger and younger until he can’t kiss her any more because that would be creepy?
The only water in the forest is the River. Wow.
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I DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO WIHT MYSELF RIGHT NOW
I CALLED IT
I SO CALLED IT
I GOT UP TO GET A BOWL OF CEREAL HALFWAY THROUGH THE EP AND THOUGHT WAIT MUSIC BODY OF WATER FLIP IT AROUND OH MY GOD
GOOD GOD MAN, YOU WIN TWELVE INTERNETS
I CALLED EVERYTHING IN THE FIGHT/BATTLES BUT I MISSED THAT PART
KSJFK:HD
I CALLED IT TOO
BUT NOT REALLY
I read it on the internet like five weeks ago and was like “Hey wait, that could work. Nahh… But actually…”
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I seriously loved the “only water in the forest is the river” thing. Makes me wonder exactly how long Moff’s been planning this for. But man was I confused before she spelled it out. “Wait, she’s Gallifreyan? Whaaat?”
Man, was I hoping for Captain Jack. I guess not. Oh well.
Also, at the thin/fat gay married Anglican Marines. And the Doctor’s awkwardness regarding how exactly a Time Lord baby was conceived by two humans.
And then they had to pile on the mood whiplash. Let’s Kill Hitler? Seriously?
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WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER??
Moffat, I love you and everything but damn it all, I want this conclusion NOW. This is much too long to wait. I feel like the season went by so fast.
And I totally called it about River, but sadly this now ruins the Amy/Eleven pairing I had so highly followed for so long. Boohoo, sadface. Guess I have to ship Amy/Rory now.
Let’s Kill Hitler is the best time-travel-related episode title ever.
Second THAT.
“Let’s go start a classic time paradox!”
Hm. The Doctor hasn’t really attempted to change established history in recent continuity… I think it’s more likely that a bunch of time travelers from later in history (perhaps Capt. J.H.’s contemporaries) will be trying to assassinate Hitler, and the Doctor and his companions will be confronted with an ethical dilemma. After all, if Hitler dies and time can be rewritten, then Rose, Martha, Donna, Wilf, Amy, Rory, Jack, River and basically everyone the Doctor’s known after 1945-ish will never be born.
Or maybe Hitler was what they wound up with after assassinating someone even worse. (What? You’ve never heard of Spielmann? Well, no, of course you wouldn’t, would you?)
“Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot one, and there’ll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland?” —Lords and Ladies, Terry Pratchett
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Y’know, that “cliffhanger” was a bit of a let down with all the hype there’s been for it ever since it was announced that the series would be in two parts with a “game changing cliff hanger”. I mean, River being Amy’s daughter has been being postulated all over the net since the beginning of this season, so to me it wasn’t really that much of a surprise. Had it been what I was thinking it was when River told the Doctor to read the word, that would ahve been a game changing cliffhanger–that is, for a moment, I thought River was saying she was the Doctor, one of his future regenerations. Now that would have been a “game changing cliffhanger”. River being Amy’s daughter? Not so much.
So I guess that’s good in the sense I’m not sitting here in suspense for the next few months, because really there’s not much to be in suspense over. We know at some point in her early life she’s wandering around the US in a space suit with the Silents, and quite likely killed the Doctor, after all we were told she killed “a good man”. So I don’t find myself in suspense, so that’s good. But I’m almost a bit let down by the anticlimaticness of the ending, given the hype it’s been getting the last several months.
But whatever. I really need to go to bed now.
I haven’t been paying attention to either the theories or the hype, so it wasn’t such a letdown for me… although I guessed it about halfway through the episode.
I JUST ATE FISH FINGERS!!!!! WITH CUSTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was at an all you can eat buffet, so I figured it was as good a time as any to eat something gross. I can say that it wasn’t as gross as you would think it is. Not to say that it wasn’t gross, but it wasn’t utterly disgusting…. I am now a true in-Doctor-nate to the cult of Who!
I keep meaning to try it. Just need an opportunity as neither fish fingers nor custard are prevalent in our house.
So has the My Little Pony Fad swept anywhere else? It defs hit my hipster college, or at least one social circle I’m close to.
So I watched like all of Big Bang Theory because I was bored. It was entertaining but not really great.
Re-started watching Battlestar Galactica though! Which is awesome so far, so yay!
AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGHHHHHHHH
That is to say, yes, practically everyone in my social circle is enamored with My Little Pony.
Yeah, all my friends call themselves bronies.
My 15-year-old sister bought a My Little Pony. Or multiple. And talks to other teenagers on Facebook about My Little Pony.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????????????
Irony, presumably. The fringe audience consists of male college students (hence “bronies.”)
As well as the alternate term “jabroni”, but that’s getting into such convoluted territory that it nearly defies explanation.
In any case, MLP is, I think, more of an internet phenomenon than a hipster phenomenon. That’s just my take on the matter. We live in strange times.
Well half my bronie friends are girls but some are guys and they all call themselves bronies.
At least they’re not writing disturbing fanfiction about it.
Actually, they are…
RE: MLP: oh good I’m glad it’s not just weirdly overlapping in my life.
Piggy- Eh, maybe, but at my school it definitely was a hipster-trend, not just an internet-people thing.
Perhaps it’s two overlapping trends.
jade — I’ve seen gifs of it all over an unnamed website, but have yet to watch it!
i’m going to start watching sherlock on the recommendation of a friend EXCITED!!!
YES. Sherlock! More people should watch it, especially if they’ve read the Sherlock Holmes stories.
SHERLOOOOCK
YES
So student council elections are coming up and our caf is filled with campaign posters.
My friends and I have decided we’re chaotic neutral and have decided to put up false random campaign posters in the caf,
One of them:
Sherlock & Watson ((Cumberbatch & Arthur Dent))
President and Vice President
We can do it when you’re too stupid to when you can’t.
CTHULHU/DAGON 2012
Vote the Silence for
Wait, what?
~~~~~~~
Courage
Loyalty
Badassery
Incredibly Sexiness
Vote Jack Harkness
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Honest and Trustworthy
Vote Al Funcoot for Treasurer
I need to watch Sherlock. There are a lot of things I need to watch…
So I just saw an ad on PBS for a Masterpiece Theatre called Upstairs Downstairs. Does anyone else watch Masterpiece Theatre, and are they worth watching?
I watched Sherlock on Masterpiece Mystery. Otherwise I have no idea.
My grandmother says that those are incredibly well done and entertaining, and I trust my grandmother’s judgement.
I mean, come on, she does the New York Sunday Times Crossword in pen.
DOWNTON ABBEY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS
I CAN’T SPEAK FOR THE ORIGINAL SERIES
BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH
and yes they are! but i am also a 70 year old on the inside so maybe my opinion is not the one you are looking for. i love pbs.
I heard Downton Abbey was the best thing to hit television since color. Maybe I should watch it.
YES. YOU SHOULD. ugh it is so good. i could write essays. it starts off a bit slow but it gets sooooo good. It’s actually been renewed for another season too and based on the ending of the last episode I think it’s only going to get more interesting.
It’s set at the turn of the century (right after the Titanic disaster, actually) and there’s a lot about social class and change and whatnot. i was going to offer to let you borrow my dvds but then i remembered THIS IS THE INTERNET. UGH!!
also, maggie smith (aka professor mcgonagall) is in it and she is so hilarious, she definitely gets all the best lines.
Upstairs Downstairs? Is it about class?
I need something good to watch…I watched about half of Hogfather and would finish it if it just kept playing (and maybe wasn’t three hours…) but it’s not entirely worth the clicking and waiting for the next episode to load. Discworld television…not such a brilliant idea.
Also OH MY GOD BATTLESTAR GALACTICAAAAA
IT IS WREAKING HAVOC ON MY EMOTIONS
Meant to just finish up season 1 tonight but then it ended in a CLIFFHANGER so now I’m into the first ep of season two. And I’m in bed watching it and god I have the biggest cheese craving right now and I may sneak downstairs and get some even though it’s 1 in the morning and I am not supposed to be awake let alone on the computer and I can no longer use correct grammar because punctuation is evil or something AHH
Deanna Troi is starting to get on my nerves.
Q made fun of her touchy-feely modus operandi. She became a bit more bearable after a hard-nosed temporary captain made her start wearing a standard Star Fleet uniform.
Troi does that. It’s been said (infinitely many times) before, but so does Wesley (not to be confused with Westley fron the princess bride, who is awesome) Crusher.
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Luna- I thought River was saying they were the same too.
I’m glad River and the Doctor aren’t related, because that would be creepy.
The headless monks reminded me of Star Wars, but the visuals were so awesome I’ll let that slide. I liked the bit at the start where Amy seems to be saying the Doctor is the father then it turns out to be Rory. *huge sigh of relief*
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The episode seemed to be going out of its way to trick us into thinking that Melody was the Doctor’s child. There was that thing at the beginning, and then there was the Doctor’s “It’s mine.” when he was actually talking about the cot, and then there was the reveal that Melody was a Time Lord.
Also, I thought River was possibly saying she was the Doctor’s mother. I like the idea pf her being a future Doctor, but if they had actually done it it puts future showrunners in a difficult situation if they can’t get or don’t want Alex Kingston the play the Doctor.
I have officially made it through 1 1/2 seasons of Kids in the Hall.
I’m addicted…but it’s so funny…
I still haven’t watched A Good Man Goes to War. Unfortunately my dad and I watch DW together, so I’ll just have to wait until he can watch it. Hmm, hopefully it’s soon; I really want to know what’s going on.
JUST FINISHED THE FIRST EPISODE OF SHERLOCK
*THROWING MYSELF AROUND THE ROOM*
I just rewatched it.
*joins Axa in throwing self around the room*
Nym and I went to watch Doctor Who on a movie theater screen last night and the night before! It was quite amazing watching the 11th Hour and The Doctor’s Wife on the big screen, as well as some 4th Doctor stuff. We had a good time and wore Duct tape fezzes and origami bowties, as well as having handmade clay sonic screwdrivers. Nym also drew ton of tally-marks all over her arms, and we counted more than 150 Silence. Eeeep! That didn’t compare to the woman with a hand knot Tom Baker scarf easily 16 feet long (we measured) Great time.
Is Amelia eating butter out of a tub with an icecream scoop in the 11th hour? It sure looks like it. That would explain why she isn’t grossed out by fish custard…
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Hey! Wait a minute! The Doctor had seen the silence before! When ten was sent back in time by Weeping Angels in blink, he said something along the lines of “1969’s not such a bad year…it’s got the moon landing. We watched it three times!” If he watched the moon landing (presumably on TV, but otherwise would have worked too) then he must have seen the clip that the older Doctor put on TV of the silence. Maybe that’s why he watched it three times…he saw something important, but his memory was erased, so he didn’t remember, so he kept watching it. He still should have remembered that when he first saw the silence, though.
DOCTOR WHO TRIVIA! Did you know that the 11th Doctor’s bowtie is color coded? I episodes that take place in the present or future it is red, and in ones that take place in the past it’s blue.
Ooh, fridge brilliance!
Yeah, I actually found the bowtie thing out a while ago. Ten’s suit is the same, though I can’t remember which color is future and which is past.
really….I’ve heard that Four’s coat is color coded for different genres of episodes, but I haven’t watched that much of Four, so i don’t know if it’s true.
I’ve heard that too but haven’t watched any of Four (I know, I’m a terrible fangirl) so I can’t be sure either.
I only watched one episode (A few nights ago, in fact), and now I am desperate to know what a jelly baby tastes like. I’ve heard that they’re sugar incarnate, but I still want one. “Yes, I would like a jelly baby”
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Oh. In Love and Monsters, there is Saxon. On the newspaper.
They planned it out then?!
Just finished watching Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead with my mom and dad. Apparently it didn’t scare them.
Well, that is a less Adult Fear episode. Try watching the first episode of Sherlock with them. That’ll make them much more paraniod/ scared.
True. Though I did watch the first episode of Sherlock (well, about two thirds of it and then my mom fell asleep) with her. And Blink, which she thought was good but not particularly scary. My mom’s just not a scifi person and my dad doesn’t really pay attention when we watch TV.
She’s more into the psychological horror. Death Note creeped her out immensely.
My mother gets scared by everything in TV shows, and thinks that I’m the same, which is a bit annoying.
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This is really, really late, but I watched it!!!! I think that we’ve kind of lost sense of “two part episode” and gone straight into “all out plot arc” I had called River, but I wasn’t disappointed that they didn’t do something more complicated. It’s nice to be surprised, but it’s also fun to be right sometimes. I did love the episode, which was intense and beautiful. It was brilliant making the baby a partial Timelord, but not making it the Doctor’s baby like everyone was expecting, and they did that well. I also like all the “good man goes to war” foreshadowing stuff, although I’m surprised that Moffat went with the narration bit in the middle after the shows previous bad (=clichéd) experiences with narration…(cough*end of series 3*cough) I was a little disappointed with the Doctor’s reaction to river’s reveal though, which I expected would be more like very loud “What!?!?” and *a sound like a fish being strangled with a lot of punctuation marks* followed by a lot of quiet “No, no, no, no, no!”s with a little bit of realization and jumping up and down/air punching/giddiness towards the end. I am still opposed to the River/Doctor romance (or anyone/Doctor) because it is against my personal image of who the doctor is, but if Moffat is going to write them that way, then i may just have to accept that.
Having watched two episodes, I think I can say that I am officially hooked on Doctor Who.
Welcome to the clan, padawan.
Not padawan, indoctornate.
Anybody else planning on watching torchwood when it airs tomorrow night on starz? Alan’s family get the channel so I’m going to be getting to watch it when it airs and not having to download it after the fact
I’m both excited and apprehensive for the new season. I’ve got a bad feeling it’s just not going to be as good as the previous three seasons, and the previews and such I’ve seen that have that chick who played on that one soap opera, what was it….all my children…..does nothing to make me feel better about it. I hope she proves to be good, but right now all I keep seeing is her in her role on that soap opera, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to take her seriously and I’m worried that’ll ruin it for me. Like the other day I caught part of a law and order uk and freema who played martha was one of the detectives or lawyers or something and I just couldn’t take her seriously as that, kept expecting to see the doctor pop out somewhere. And the CIA agent guy….he was a doctor on ER. And I’m not going to be too keen on it if he’s supposed to be ianto’s replacement.
But we’ll see. I hope to be pleasantly surprised. And awake enough to appreciate it if it’s good. I’m at work right now, pulling an all nighter from 11p to 8a. Add an hours commute, it’ll be 9a before I get to bed, and I can’t sleep til 4p tomorrow like I normally would after working a night shift because I have to get to bed by about 11p tomorrow night (ateast 4 hrs before my normal bedtime of late) because I’m working a day shift on Saturday. But that’s neither here nor there.
Oh maaaannnn. I’ll have to wait till it’s up illegally on the internet since we don’t have that channel, but yessss I am going to watch. Apprehensive about it as well though.
OH NO OH NO OH NOOOOOOO the last episode of the next Sherlock series is The Final Problem Sherlock is going to dieeeeeeeeeeeeee but he will come back of course but what if they don’t make a third season???? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I am scared. Therefore, no punctuation. On the other hand, this pretty much means they MUST make a third season because you can’t end with The Final Problem and just leave it at that. Unless you’re Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, but even he caved eventually.
I’ve been working my way through Jericho lately and it is awesome. Watch it if you haven’t already.
A couple days ago I started watching The IT Crowd. It’s fantastic, as Ebeth implied a little over a year ago. It and Futurama are, so far, the only shows that make me laugh out loud several times every single episode.
177- I watched like maybe three or four episodes of Jericho before I got tired of it. It’s too drawn out and not a brilliant script or anything. I read all the episode spoilers on Wiki and stopped watching. The same with Lost and Heroes. You have to slog through too many episodes to get anywhere plot-wise and they add as many random developments as possible to make it longer. I don’t know.
178- Ahhh Futurama. I watch that with my dad.
Besides a great deal of Red Dwarf, I’ve been watching a British show called Doc Martin, which is really good. My mom and I watched like eight episodes in three or four days, but then she went to the fair and just got back so I haven’t seen it in a while. Good show though.
I admire Doctor Who’s ability to made me cry after rewatching episodes.
Torchwood is back.
Finished season 1 of Downton Abbey (I’m on a bit of a Masterpiece Theater binge right now). It was like gossip girl for the early twentieth century. The drama! The scandal! The footmen! And the dresses! The outfits were my favorite part. It got a little disjointed at times, but I’m glad there’s a season 2 because nothing really got wrapped up in the finale.
Anyone else watching Shark Week?
I would be, if I were watching anything. On principle, I avoid television because while some shows are excellent, countless time is wasted on commercials, and it’s hard to stop yourself from occasionally watching things just because you’re waiting for something else, which is also a waste of time. If someone bothers to record something I happen to be interested in, I’ll watch it, but that’s it. Other than a show on Abraham Lincoln and another on the Dark Ages, both of which my brother recorded, I haven’t watched anything except movies since I was… 8? 9? I vaguely remember watching Shark Week several years ago, though, and I loved it.
oh hi there netflix
or hulu
or tivo
or any online streaming site
or [nameless morally questionable means of obtaining things over the internet]
seriously at this point if you don’t watch television, it’s because you can’t be bothered. which is absolutely fine, nothing wrong with that, i didn’t watch tv until my senior year of high school. just wasn’t interested in it. but commercials and wasting time watching shows while waiting for other shows are no longer a valid reasoning.
in fact, if any of you are ever watching a show just to wait for the next show to come on, you’re doing it wrong. go online and find the show you want, don’t bother with the rest
Precisely why I don’t have cable.
@ last bit: Unless you’re in a location with TV but no Internet.
I didn’t know about any of those things when I was 8/9. I suppose I never considered them. By the time I did, I was in the habit of not watching anything, so I didn’t make the connection. I’m not sure if I plan to watch things online, now that I think about it. Probably not, but I might occasionally.
Actually, I think it’s that at that time, I hadn’t heard of those things, and by the time I found out, I couldn’t be botherd, BUT I’m sure that if I hadn’t stopped watching things to begin with I wouldn’t stop now.
SFTDP, but I’d like to add that I don’t pay attention to that sort of thing, and the only one of those I’d heard of even now was Netflix.
I watched it at the lake because we had cable. We don’t have cable at home which is fine because we have Netflix streaming which means most TV shows and no commercials. Anyway, I watched a bit of it. I liked it but I thought it focused a bit too much on mass-producing fake blood and flooding the set with it. Or, y’know, copy-and-pasting a billion little red pixels onto the sharkattack clips. I still really liked it, though.
HAS ANYONE ELSE BEEN WATCHING WONDERS OF THE UNIVERSE WITH BRIAN COX
BECAUSE
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it’s on the science channel….omg
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A THING OF BEAUTY
I don’t think I get that channel though D: TO THE INTERNET!!
Also there were some episodes I missed last summer of Into the Universe with Stephan Hawking that I never caught up on!! Must make time to see those as well. As well as rewatch all the old Cosmos so I am ready for the new onnnnessss
SO MUCH SPACE MY HEART IS EXPLODING
I am so excited about the new Cosmos! Even if they won’t have Carl Sagan in them because he’s dead.
Hey, I think they showed that program here! Australia isn’t completely behind!
Well, I saw a miniseries called Wonders of the Universe and the guy’s name sounds familiar. It might be different.
Moffat gave three clues for next season: “Alder, Hound, and Reichenbach.”
Final Problem better mean there’s going to be a next season after the falls.
Anyone else find the Doctor Who Season [I don’t know the number but it’s the first season with Rose in it so let’s just go with that] episode “The Empty Child” just the tiniest bit disturbing or creepy?
Almost all of my friends are in England, seeing Doctor Who landmarks, and I was going to go, but then we went to Canada instead. I everyone is sending me photos of Cardiff and the Doctor Who museum, so I don’t really need to go anymore, since I have all the pictures. one of my friends is even bringing back a flyer she found for a musical of Robinhood starring…..Capitan Jack. Singing. In tights.
Normal siblings find their little brothers annoying because they steal their stuff or bug you when you’re trying to do something. I get in fights with my brothers over whether or not Wesley Crusher’s dad, Jack Crusher is a captain or not, because they would just love to be able to say that Captain Jack is related to Wesley.
Ahem. I have a bit of a problem here.
WARNING: MAY CONTAIN SEASON ONE SPOILERS. MAYBE. I DON’T KNOW YET. BUT EVERYONE’S SEEN SEASON ONE. SO WHATEVER. OKAY, I’M GOING TO TURN OFF CAPSLOCK NOW.
So we finished up Season One last night, and at the very end when the Doctor regenerates and David Tenant appears and says about five words about Barcelona before the episode ends, well…
Will someone please explain to my sister that the Doctor is supposed to regenerate and he’s supposed to be a completely different actor and he’s not supposed to have the same voice every time he regenerates? Because it’s really getting on her nerves, and through her nerves, mine.
(she’s ten.)
And she gets really upset with me, and she hates David Tenant despite having seen only five seconds of his acting. Because up till then we had been watching only the ninth Doctor. Because that was the first episode (they put all the seasons together on Netflix que).
If I stay on this thread any longer I will read a spoiler on accident. Not that I haven’t done so already.
Say this to your sister:
“Regeneration is a perfectly natural part of Doctor Who. It has existed since the show first began in the 60’s, and there is no reason to be scared of it. Yes, it is a big, frightening change, having the main character change right before your eyes, but if you look close throughout his acting and the storytelling, he really is the same person. It’s nothing to be worried about.”
Ye gods, that sounds like some Time Lord version of The Talk…
Intentional.
Thanks.
I managed to get her to sit through a Season 2 episode, and once again MuseBlog was right:
David Tenant is the BEST.
*falls into rabid fangirl rants*
Isn’t Doctor Who starting again today? I would have thought that this thread would be more active…
Episode 8 of Torchwood, Miracle Day and Doctor Who “Let’s Kill Hitler”, all on the same day (well, not really, TW aired yesterday, I just didn’t see it until today), but a;lfksdhgla;dkfjal;. Doctor Who, though, man, that was just all over the place–hilarious and “what the bloody cake” all at the same time…..
That wad the first Doctor Who I’ve ever seen.
AND IT’S GONNA BE TOTALLY AWESOME.
SHERLOCK
So I’m officially hooked on Firefly now. That damned catchy theme song definitely helps.
Additionally,
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That was a really mood whiplash-y episode. We find Hitler, attempt to kill/survive him, and then he is locked in a cupboard and never seen again. Go figure. At least the title of the episode makes sense now.
Also, I’m glad Amy got to “raise” Melody after all, even if she did get to see her grow up to be a delinquent. That, and Rory. Awww.
I got around to watching Sherlock yesterday.
I’m finishing up the third episode today.
SO EPIC
Random Trivia Question: What is the name of the brand of Rose’s cell phone?
I don’t know if AVPM/AVPS counts as a geeky TV show, but OHEMGEORGE it is totally awesome.
Torchwood: Miracle Day, anyone? So great. So many thought-provoking issues. I hope it gets picked up for a new season!
Also, Doctor Who season 6.5. More nigh-plot-irrelevant episodes, which is a good break from the crazy River Song/Melody Pond storyline. O.O
But, buh-bye Pond/Williams. We’ll miss you… <3 Seriously my favorite companion.
My favorite companions too.
I don’t think she’s gone for good yet. Not with everything that happened in the impossible astronaut and all. But there will probably be a few episodes without her.
SPOILERS Miracle Day sucked, to sum it up in a word. I completely lost the feel of the original Torchwood (which was fantastic) and there was not enough of the torchwood team. That said, even though it wasn’t my favorite, I was enjoying it fairly well, until they completely turned a mediocre season into utter crap with the last 30’se ones of the final episode. Seriously, deciding to make Rex immortal ruined what up til then had been an okay season. That pisses me off more than killing Ianto off did
why does everyone hate rex
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No one talking about the god complex? Really?
I would but I don’t have cable. Season two, anyone?
*Sigh* I feel like a loner.
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I was surprised by the ending. Companions rarely leave in the middle of seasons. My guess is that they’ll be back in the finale and then leave for good.
I found this particularly good for an ordinary “Monster of the Week” episode. The Minotaur feeding off faith instead of fear was a nice twist, and this kept up the theme begun last week of Amy and Rory losing their faith in the Doctor.
The Girl Who Waited was one of the best pieces of fiction I have ever experienced, by the way.
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Actually they will be back for the Christmas special as well.
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Wait, river regenerated in that episode,and she goes through time backwards. Does that mean that next time we see River she’s going to be the old regeneration? So are they changing her actor?
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No, I wouldn’t think so; she met a much older Doctor in “The Impossible Astronaut” as well. I think generally their timelines are back-to-front, but there are some cases that defy this.
Ah. That makes (sort of) sense. It’s complicated because they don’t just have opposite time streams, but they also jump around a lot in them since they’re both time travelers. I don’t think that anyone has really figured out how their time works with time travel. Are their personal timelines (their time including any time travel they do) reveres, or do they just come from different time steams (time travel would change this)? sorry, this is really hard to explain without paper, or better yet 4D paper.
I don’t think it’s that complicated. It’s just that they tend to meet in the wrong order. So maybe two consecutive meetings from the doctor’s point of view will be river’s 2nd and 43rd meeting.
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Okay, so my mom’s kind really insanely of strict about how much TV I watch on school nights (with good reason, I suppose) and so I am stuck with having to wait FOUR DAYS to watch the next episode of the season 2 finale of Doctor Who. Meh. I’ll probably end up finding out what happens from TWOO and Altosax on Monday, anyway. I like having Whovian friends. But this is *snifflesob* GOODBYE to Rose. She is/was a good companion. I’ll miss her. Is Donna any good?
Donna’s pretty good, but actually Martha is the companion for Series 3. Martha is amazing. Personally, I prefer her to Rose.
I really liked Martha, but I wish she wasn’t so obviously crushing on the Doctor.
Donna is AMAZING, but you do have to get used to her. I hated her in her first episode, but she was a refreshing break after Martha.
Donna is pretty great, although I admit it wasn’t until my second viewing that I really warmed up to her. And by third viewing I loved her. Rose is just alright, upon a second viewing (I’ll admit I liked her a lot the first time round). And by third you’re not quite sure why you once loved her so much. Martha is cometely awful, at least on second (and even worse on 3rd) viewing. she was okay on first viewing though. Amy Pond is completely awesome on both first and second viewing, and rory is wonderful as well.
ARGH Now I can’t wait for the Doctor Who finale! So many questions to be answered!
I KNOW!
How do you do this ‘waiting’ thing?
I just obsess to all my friends, whovian or not, until the new episode comes out. If you talk about it enough, it’s almost like watching Doctor Who…
i’ll just be over here shaking and crying over a 17 second teaser trailer for the second season of game of thrones
no
big
deal
But it’s just a bunch of special effects with flying embers and a ring of fire and somebody whispering “The night is dark and full of terrors…”
oh.
OH.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
THAT IS STANNIS BARATHEON I’LL HAVE YOU KNOW
BOW TO YOUR LOBSTER KING
He is the rightful king, so he will fight to his dying breath for a throne he doesn’t want. How can I not respect that?
(Besides, the Greyjoys are marauding pirates, Joffrey was a spoiled little nutjob with daddy issues, Renly played the game of thrones as if it was no more consequential than a game of conkers, and Robb… poor, valiant, stupid, honorable, teenage dead Robb. )
Is there any Lannister, really, who doesn’t have daddy issues? EVERYTHING IS TYWIN’S FAULT
So is Classic Who worth watching? If so, where shall I start?
I don’t really know, honestly. I watched Genesis of the Daleks once, which was good but not great, but aside from that I haven’t seen enough to know.
If you do, I’d start at the very beginning, a very good place to start.
The beginning… where is the beginning, exactly?
The beginning would be the First Doctor, first episode. But the first one is, frankly, lousy- I’d start with the Third Doctor, either World’s End or The Chase.
I’ve heard lovely things about Two, especially Jamie’s stint as a companion. Might that be worth watching?
The first episode is called “An Unearthly Child.”
I don’t think yo should start at the very beginning because it’s television history, and boring by today’s standards. I recommend starting with the modern Doctor; the Ninth Doctor, played by Christopher Eccleston. The first episode is “Rose”.
If you’re too busy to catch up on all that and you want the very latest series, start with the Eleventh Doctor, played by Matt Smith, in “The Eleventh Hour.”
SFTDP (Why do I post on this thread so often? I should consolidate my random snippets of whatever I feel the need to say into one big post. So I guess I’ll try to do that?… ackpbth.)
but guess what!! I think I may have been part of the influence that cased one of the most popular kids in my school to watch Doctor Who! I think he saw the season 1 finale. This might not be anything, but if this develops into anything big I will keep you all posted.
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*sobs* I think my heart is broken. I am *sniff* so sad. It was so beautifly sad and heartbreaking. ROSE
And… I started season three. Why does everyone have those brass instrment robots on Christmas? Because in season 2 it was the Syrocrax who had those exact same robots. Do all aliens have these robots?
I didn’t like Love and Monsters from Season Two much. But Moaning Myrtle was in it.
Those robots aren’t explained very well, but I think that normally, they are independent from everyone and just follow around powerful aliens like the Sycorax and get stuff from civilizations they invade. This is what the Doctor explains with his “pilot fish” analogy. However, in “The Runaway Bride” they were, for whatever reason, working for the Empress of the Racnoss.
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Oh. My. God. That was very good. Bravo. My mind is actually still reeling.
But it’s just like the Doctor to pop back into a door that he just walked slowly and sadly out of. And I actually thought it was over when he married River and went back to die. But of course it wasn’t.
I think one word that summons up this finale is “cool.” While others were very epic and awesome, this one was undeniably cool. Its cool factor was probably increased by the fact that it was only one episode and not a two-parter. I, for one, think the Doctor looks very cool, sporting his Stenson throughout the episode. Can’t wait until series 7!!!
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UGH YES. I utterly, utterly loved the wedding scene, especially the whole “I couldn’t let you die without letting you know you are loved by so many, and so much” part. In a lot of ways it seems like this season has been a massive deconstruction of everything the Doctor is and does. And the deconstruction is well-deserved, because everything brought up is true. The Doctor is vain, and destroys lives just by touching them, and has a god complex the size of a galaxy. But even after all this, he is loved, because the title of the episode wasn’t “A Vain, Preening, Ancient Child Goes to War”, because the Doctor is a good man, and he deserves to be loved, and he deserves to be able to love.
Deconstruction. Reconstruction. And oh my god, of course that’s the first question, it’s the first question asked in the opening credits. Doctor who? God, Moffat, you magnificent [snip], how long have you been planning this?
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Oh My God yes! Or rather, Oh my Moffat, because I think I’ve started worshiping him. That is absolute genius!!!! I love all the timey-whimeyness!!! I’ve always loved Moffat’s style of time travel with neat little time loops, as opposed to RTD’s linchpins and ripplepoints with fixed events in time, but Moffat incorporated the fixed event thing into his model so well, with fixed events being fixed because they sealed off a time loop, so you aren’t really changing them, because you already have. And that time depends more on peoples memories…And letting you think it’s over only to blast your brain with a bit of time travel brilliance…I swear Moffat thinks in 4 if not 5 dimensions. He has such a good grasp of what he’s doing with time travel.
I have been dreading the conclusion to the Doctor River romance, because I am really opposed to it, but I was surprisingly OK with it when it actually happened…I guess it was the rest of everything involved in it, but I’m not sure if this even counts as them being married…
And I loved the way that Moffat did the Silence in this episode. You never saw them until a character had the eye-thing, which is the right way to do it.
Other things I really loved: Indiana Jones Doctor, stetson and all, and the fact that it was all crammed into an hour, with ad breaks.
And it’s exactly like Moffat to have the whole series be a set up for a meta pun on the show’s title. (And the answer id obviously 42.)
Also, in response to what cat’s eye said, I didn’t really love the god complex as an episode, but I loved what it did for the Doctor’s character development. I absolutely loved how every time he lectured someone or warned someone about something, he was talking to himself, after he saw room number 11.
And of course, all the unanswered questions. We never found out what happens in the Doctor’s future that the Silence want to prevent. Or why the question is so bad…season 7’s going to be fun!
Just one question though: Why did the silence need River to kill the Doctor if the suit did all of it?
Anyway, loved, loved, loved, loved,loved the episode!!!!!!
(sorry for longest whovian post ever)
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Why River needed to kill the Doctor–Perhaps her Time Lady-ness helped to create the fixed point?
AUGH CABLE WHY DO I NOT
My friend Altosax walked up to me after band today and started singing that creepy little song. When I see the series 6 finale, though, it’ll probably be in a year or so. (I average about one episode per week during school; one to three per week during summer and break. Also, Netflix uploads whole seasons at a time instead of per episode.)
SHALL I READ SPOILERS? HMM…
I actually caved in and bought all of season six on iTunes during summer. It’s not as pricey if you buy the standard definition.
But now I don’t have to anymore! Except for maybe the Christmas special because I’ll be at home.
I just watched The Eleventh Hour.
I have never loved David Tennant more.
Matt Smith looks like he walked straight out of a bad sitcom.
SONIC SCREWDRIVERS ARE NOT GREEN.
THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT!
Trust me, Eleven grows on you. I still think, of New Who, that I prefer Nine and Ten, but I definitely like Eleven as well.
Yeah, Eleven’s okay, but I still can’t respect someone who eats fish sticks and custard and carries around a green flashlight that doesn’t deserve to be called a screwdriver. Other than that, though, he’s okay. Really it was how Amy went from being eight years old and awesome to twenty and cakeheaded that annoyed me. I thought it was so cute how she drew all those comics; I would have done the same thing.
I have now watched all of New Who. Ahh, what a smart, funny, brain-stretching, lovely show. {Hugs program.} I am currently anticipating Christmas for a reason I have never anticipated it before: The Doctor Who Christmas special.
Also, I am so happy that I know what people are talking about now.
206–Agent Lightning: While I (unlike most people, it seems) liked Smith in The Eleventh Hour, I found him more appealing as Series Five progressed–and all trepidation was gone by Series Six. (I’m going to say something that will cause gasping and indigence and possibly yelling: I think Eleven has more dignity than Ten, which I like.) Out of curiosity, in what way do you think he “looks like he walked straight out of a bad sitcom”?
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SPOILER–OKAY, ONLY A SMALL ONE–FOR DOCTOR WHO, “LET’S KILL HITLER”
The Doctor’s long coat is beautiful. I like it.
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204.1.1–Oobatooba: Did The Silence need River to kill The Doctor so that she would be a fall-girl, so that the murderer would not be just a suit that could be traced back to The Silence by capable vigilante companions? Such a fall-entity would need to be River Song, since she was conceived in the TARDIS and was thus the most effective potential weapon The Silence could find.
Incidentally, I’m quite glad River and The Doctor have been written as a romantic pairing. The Doctor, throughout The Age of Davies, was intensely lonely. Davies’s scripts were also often concerned with The Doctor’s need to make peace with his past. Moffat, though, seems to have decided that it is time The Doctor has some lasting happiness; and time that he faced his future directly. I think having a relationship with River accomplishes the former and aids the latter–plus, she is just so cool.
I think it was what he was wearing in the beginning, with the tie and such, and how he was so young, and the fish sticks with custard. Just… for most of the Eleventh Hour I thought of him as a sitcom character. Y’know, the character with a teenage daughter and twin eight-year-old boys and a wife who he gets in petty arguments with and there’s that really annoying sound of voices in your head laughing every time someone says something even mildly stupid and he misses his ten-year-old daughter’s soccer game.
#endrant
Mm, I see.
Hmmm. That would work, I guess…
I actually like the lonely and more alien Doctor, but I can see how some people wouldn’t. I agree that River is cool, but she annoys me because she can be too cool. And I am intensely opposed to Doctor romance.
Except for in The Girl In The Fireplace. Other than that, I am opposed to Doctor romance.
I’ve heard so much about River Song that I’m actually kind of scared…
I agree: I like the lonely Doctor better. Back when he was the last of the Time Lords. (Now there’s the Master and who knows what else they threw in there…)
The following contains spoilers for Doctor Who, up through The Eleventh Hour!
Both of you: I also like The Doctor better when he’s more alien–much better, in fact. But I think I’ve just gotten weary of loneliness. He’ll always be–has always been–a singular type of person, but I feel a bit bombarded by the fact. He’s been hurting from the Time War for all of New Who, and every time he heals some, he gets hurt again! He’s found companions and lost them painfully; The Master showed up, took weight of The Doctor’s shoulders, and died; Jenny came into being, cheered The Doctor up, and died (well, he thinks so); The Master came back, The Doctor rejoiced, The Master died again…and onwards. I was ready for a change.
This bit is about Professor River Song–Agent Lightning, I do not think you’ll be spoiled, but I can’t guarantee it, because I don’t know how much you know:
I agree that she steals The Doctor’s thunder sometimes, but if she always played second fiddle to him, I’d loathe the pairing. I’d also like them less together if she traveled regularly in the TARDIS with him. She’s got her own gig going, and won’t stop just because she happens to fall in love.
So, I can respect River, which means I like her more than I would otherwise.
I agree, mostly, and found it rather informational.
I also recently watched The Doctor’s Daughter. It was… odd… but I think it’ll be interesting when we see Jenny again.
So who exactly is River? I feel an urge to get this information. All I know is that she’s from Gallifrey, has a relationship with the Doctor, and is brainwashed to kill him in Nazi Germany, and also that she says “Hello, sweeties” as her catchphrase.
I also find Jenny interesting. I hope she’ll reappear!
Question: It sounds like you’ve seen “The Eleventh Hour”, but haven’t seen anything with River, who first appeared in “Silence in the Library”–are you watching the episodes out of order?
Either way, I’ll try to answer your question, but I’m going to be a bit vague so that you don’t miss out on some of the surprises.
River is not actually from Gallifrey, but yes, she is The Doctor’s lover, she was brainwashed to kill him (which she attempts to do in Nazi Berlin), and she is the only person in the universe to call The Doctor “Sweetie”–which means that messages left in neat places for an unspecified “Sweetie” are from River to The Doctor. Beyond that…. No, I won’t tell you who her parents are; (“Spoilers!”). I shall say that she is an archaeologist. She and The Doctor are both time travelers, so they have a tendency to meet out of order. When he first meets her, in “Silence in the Library”, she already knows him extremely well; every time they meet, they check to see where the other is (“Have we been to Easter Island yet, in your time-line?”).
Does that help?
Yes, I have seen Silence in the Library. That is as far as I have gotten but a friend who is an Eleven fan convinced me to watchthe Eleventh Hour, and the bit about Nazi Germany I learned over lunch from a fellow Whovian who enjoys spoiling the show for me.
Thank you. That helped!
Honestly, I don’t think we’ll see Jenny again – at least not for a while since she’s uh, kind of busy with having David Tennant’s baby and all.
Ah, right.
Something about 11 just freaks me out. He’s a lot more alien than 10 was, which can be a good thing or a bad thing. For me, it’s a bad thing.
I started watching Classic Who last month. I’m on the third episode of The Keys of Marinus, having elected not to watch any reconstructions and just read summaries. I think I missed some character development in Marco Polo, though, because Barbara and Ian gladly explore the strange pyramid, while in The Daleks they just want to go home.
Classic Who is an interesting experience, I’ll say that much! I don’t like Susan.
I would recommend that you do watch the reconstructions, some of them are actually quite well done (most, actually), and I think that things will make much more sense if you do….In my opinion.
Honestly, for the most part, I can’t even remember half the time which serials were reconstructions, and which weren’t anymore, except for a few that just stick in my mind as having been especially boring as reconstructions, and a wee bit hard to follow (some of the voices sound dreadfully similar, and the images don’t always correspond well enough to make it clear who’s talking, depending on the reconstruction).
Haven’t seen you in a while.
Been busy. Still am busy, really, shouldn’t be on here. Vet school ate my life.
It’s still good to see you, LtL.
Good to see all of you, too!
The fact that I only now realize what your avatar is of depresses me.
Took me a while too. I don’t watch Dr. Who *ducks* yet.
Ah, same here. It only hit me after I started watching the show.
Castle: There’s still hope! I reccomend you start with the new series: the first episode is “Rose” and go from there. The best episodes are Blink and The Girl In The Fireplace. David Tennant is the best Doctor. If you have a Netflix streaming thing it’s quite easy to get all this: if not it’s on BBC America. (I use the former because I don’t have cable.)
Also: Never abbrieviate it. It’s “Doctor Who”, not “Dr. Who”.
“The Empty Child” and “The Doctor Dances” are pretty fantastic as well. Of course, now we’re just naming off every Moffat episode.
Moffat wrote Empty Child? No wonder I found it so terrifying…
(Don’t watch it before bed. Just… don’t.)
Mummy…I’m here, mummy…
Oh, god, sorry.
It must have been incredibly painful to watch me do that.
Ugh, I can’t stand Susan.
Does anyone watch Once Upon a Time?
I just watched Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead.
River Song confuses me immensely. Also, I’m realizing how much I love Moffat.
Congratulations, you’re going to be persistently dogged by both of those feelings throughout the entirety of Seasons 5 and 6.
So…..thoughts on the rumor (and maybe more than rumor, i don’t know), that there is going to be a Doctor Who movie of some sort directed by David Yates?
Yeah…..I have no idea why anyone would let David Yates near any established canon because even if a good Who movie could be done, well, we all saw what Yates did to OotP and HBP when they were adapted to movies….Why would Doctor Who be any different. The man’s toxic, in my opinion, when it comes to not butchering established things.
I KNOOOOW.
He completely fubarified the last few Harry Potter movies. He ruined them for me. Chris Columbus was so much better. Get HIM to direct it.
Alfonso Cuaron. Was. The best. I have no idea whatsoever why they didn’t hire him back.
I’m worried about its place in canon. From what I’m reading it looks like it will be non-canon, with a different Doctor and a screenwriter unaffiliated with the show. That would confuse everyone to no end, steal recognition from the actual show, and probably be terrible, too.
However, if it’s non-canon, at least we can all pretend it never happened if it sucks. Whereas if it’s canon, that’s awfully hard to do.
I do that a lot. Most of the Star Trek movies are noncanonical in my opinion (a Borg queen?! come on!).
Elsewhere, I’ve never believed that Leia was really Luke’s sister. In my version of the Star Wars universe, the Jedi wanted him to think that for their own purposes. It’s the sort of sneaky thing they would do.
So you think they should have stayed together, then? Instead of Leia marrying Han?
Oh, not at all. That part turned out the way it should have.
well…”the Borg need a queen like the Borg need American Idol!”
(“…But,” says my friend “Borg American Idol would be pretty awesome! They could sing Best of Both Worlds!”)
Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition ified?
Yes indeed.
Okay, I actually liked the HP movies. I’ve read books 1-3 and book 7, and seen movies 1-5 and 7.5 and, as a non-hardcore-fan, I liked the movies as well as the books. Maybe they don’t pander as much to the hardcore fans, but for the general population they’re pretty good. The visuals are pretty cool, the special effects are good, the plot moves. The movie characters, to me, seem like they often have more depth than the book characters (from the books I’ve read). Also Emma Watson.
Similarly, while the hypothetical movie might not stick to the TV show’s established canon, I think that would be okay. The 2005 reboot itself was a pretty big break with the past, and I think that it was successful in a large part BECAUSE it discarded a lot of the past baggage and brought the show back to the essentials of a madman in a box. Now that Moffett’s created this large and to me unsatisfactory plot tangle around the doctor, a re-simplification might just be what’s needed. A movie would introduce Doctor Who to a wider public while giving more material for the fans. Maybe people would be annoyed that it doesn’t discuss the Eye of Gallifrey or whatever in great detail, but, when it comes down to it, my favorite episodes and in my opinion the strongest episodes are the stand-alone ones where you don’t need to know all of the canon of the show – think about Blink. And that is something the movie could do very well: give us a stand-alone adventure.
Just a note, the rumor is false. The official Doctor Who social networking devices denied it, although they stated they would welcome the prospect of a movie if it ever came up.
Are you sure? On the official Doctor Who website, there’s a news post confirming it.
www. bbc. co.uk /doctorwho /dw/news /bulletin_111115_01 /Doctor_Who_Update
GAPAs, will you allow that URL? If so, remove the spaces to access it, as always.
I had heard somewhere that the BBC didn’t seem sure about it itself, and that it was confirming it in some places and denying it in others. So maybe it won’t happen after all.
“We can confirm that a Doctor Who feature film remains in development with BBC Worldwide Productions in Los Angeles. However, there is currently no script, cast or production crew in place.”
In other words, they’re thinking about it but it may or may not ever happen.
I actually liked the 5th Harry Potter movie, but I’m generally opposed to movies of TV shows. The formats are just so different that they rarely turn out well.
24 pulled it off.
As did Star Trek.
We ended up with a mixed bag from Star Trek.
They did get off to a bad start.
Question: should I get back into watching Fullmetal Alchemist?
Answer (from a fan): Yes. It’s a great series. Well-written, fantastic lovable characters, awesome soundtrack… The only thing that really bugs me is the sheer quantity of mood whiplash. Things go from tragic to comedy in really short periods of time, and sometimes that gets to me, but I still completely recommend it.
Well, I’ve watched the show a good way in, so I know all that. I’m just wondering if it’s worth it to juggle that and DWS2 at the same time.
I watched The Aztecs a couple of days ago, and it’s my favorite First Doctor serial so far. I think I can pinpoint the reasons:
1) Susan isn’t screaming all the time
2) Barbara is being BA
3) I can actually tell which character is which
4) The Doctor accidentally marries someone and doesn’t really care
The last episode was kind of ridiculous, though. In the final scene, it was funny to notice that the backdrop was the same, even though there was supposed to be a huge crowd there.
Yeah, the Aztecs is my favorite so far as well. “Yes, I made some cocoa and got engaged.”
I just found out that my cousin is a Doctor Who fan!
My little brother (age nine) told me today that he ships Barbara/Ian. SO PROUD
An update on the movie question!
Steven Moffat: To clarify: any Doctor Who movie would be made by the BBC team, star the current TV Doctor and certainly NOT be a Hollywood reboot.
So they seem to really be serious about this whole movie business! Or at least trying to calm down the fanbase.
STFP: More Moffat clarification
Steven Moffat: Movie thing: David Yates, great director, was speaking off the cuff, on a red carpet. You’ve seen the rubbish I talk when I’m cornered.
So where does that leave us?
Thank Om. I was worried that Hollywood would change everything completely and ruin it for me. D:
…Om? As in the Great God Om?
I think I like you.
Yes, Om.
Thank you. No one ever knows what I’m talking about when I say that!
I think I have found my home.
*holy horns!*
Personally, I pray to the goddess Annoya a lot. My cupboards get stuck easily!
Is anybody else in love with Once Upon a Time? I am!
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1. I have reached a conclusion. Steven Moffat is better than RTD.
2. I am now starting a religion worshiping Moffat.
3. Loved the line “hell in high heels.”
4. The episode did seem a little rushed, though.
5. I have hated every episode except two with Matt Smith that wasn’t written by Steven Moffat.
6. I LOVE RIVERSONG.
7. The last traces of hatred for Eleven have now vanished.
8. While I’m at it, Ten > Eleven.
9. Doctor Who? OMG HOLY FREAKING AWESOME *hyperventilates*
10. Wait a second…if Riversong never was told the Doctor’s name, and the question should never be answered, then how did she get Ten to trust her in the library? I think she told him his name.
11. Steven Moffat, thou art a genius.
12. (But they should get some decent writers other than Moffat.)
I feel like doing this methodically…
1. YES.
2. I will join.
3. Agreed.
4. Maybe…
5. Hate might be a bit strong, but Moffat is better.
6. NO.
7. YESSSS.
8. Very true.
9. YESYESYESYES.
10. Spoilers. Maybe?
11. Very true.
12. Yes. But he shall still be supreme in his glory. Praise him.
You do realize that River is her first name and Song is her last name, and that it’s not one word.
You hated every episode? What about The Girl Who Waited? In my opinion, that’s possibly the best episode since Midnight.
Yup. For whatever reason I picture it spelled as one word. I have trouble stopping from typing it. Sorry.
I hated that episode, yes. (SPOILER ALERT SPOILER) I kind of strongly dislike Amy in general and she was just sort of annoying through the episode, and the time didn’t really make sense. Rory created a paradox when he first saw the Amy that had been waiting for whatever number of years. That’s never really explained.
Interesting. I can see how you’d like one if you liked the other. Both episodes feel very similar in tone — taut, claustrophobic.
I guess I’ve always liked more minimalist everythings.
Yeah, I liked both of those episodes too. I don’t thin it’s as much claustrophobic as contained and intense. Everything is really between 3 or 4 characters. I guess this is my preferred way of interaction with other people.
I do agree with Mikazuki on the time travel thing tough. I’ve always been opposed to “time paradoxes” and “fixed events in time” because it feels like they undermine the idea of time as the 4th dimension. I’m a fan of Blink and Big Bang style time loops, which seem to me like the way time travel would actually work if it were to be invented. The inconsistency between these two ideas in Doctor Who has always ticked me off.
Now I will also go through the list methodically:
1. Most definitely
2. Can I be a cultist of Cthulhu and a Cultist of Moffat at the same time? Come to think of it, Moffat induces almost as much insanity as Cthulhu…
3. mmmhhh (the approving, not disapproving kind.)
4. Well they were tying up the subplots of a whole series in less than an hour, with ad breaks…but I don’t think it would have been better done as two parts, and I don’t know what they would have cut.
5. I actually liked some of those episodes (The girl who waited and the god complex, to name two) but most of my favorite episodes are Moffat episodes. I don’t think that I’ve “hated” any Smith episode though, except for possibly one.
6. also NO. I have many reasons for disliking her, mostly involving Doctor romance (bleah!) and her being an ungodly combination of Mary Sue and Chuck Norris (come to think of it, she is (SPOILER!) their daughter)
7. Good! Sorry that you hated 11 in the first place.
8. Hmmm…I think that 9 will always be my favorite, but then 11.
9. Of course.
10. Interesting…I’ve always thought that the question just being his name seemed a bit to obvious though…unless he’s related to (or IS) someone else important.
11. Could not be agreed more.
12. It would be a good idea, since I think Moffat’s greatest strength is arcs, not individual episodes.
I LOVED the Blink paradox.
Me too! It’s been the inspiration for many a strange time travel story.
Really? I think Moffat’s complicating stuff to much. Two seasons, and instead of answering all the questions he’s raised in the series, he just keeps adding more and more until I don’t even know what ahs been answered and what hasn’t and it makes my brain hurt. I think Moffat is better in small doses, writing a few episodes a season, but not necessarily in charge of everythign. He just confuses me by not resolving all the questiosn he raises.
Seconded.
I am somewhat in agreement. I think he’s a good scriptwriter, but I think that the current plot has gone on for way too long, especially considering that before Moffat there have been no storylines lasting longer than a few episodes (in the current Doctor Who, at least). Once it gets to the point of watchers having difficulty remembering all of the plot twists (some people have quit watching Doctor Who because it’s just too confusing now, I think), it’s gone too far, and I think Moffat has nearly reached this.
I don’t know. There’s something that I love about the abundance of subplots and arcs, but at the same time, especially with a series that comes out relatively slowly, it can be hard to keep straight. Moffat is so brilliant, but sometimes you just need some time for fireworks to stop exploding in your brain, and the kind of insane stuff that he writes looks more impressive compared to RTD style episodes, but the perspective is lost when every thing is “KABOOM!!!! TIME TRAVEL!!!!!!” I think it would help to have a few normal, and not insanely contorted episodes a season to give you some time to cool off. I actually really liked series 5, which I thought was pretty well balanced out, enough to make the finale really blow your mind while you still understood the season, but series 6 went a little overboard.He’s so brilliant at arcs that I think him being in charge of everything is good, but I think most of the actual episodes should be written by more RTD style people.
I don’t know if this is a popular opinion though, since I think I desire a lot more confusion than most people.
Yeah, I agree with everything in your post, especially about the normal, unrelated-to-the-general plot episodes. I think part of the reason I liked The God Complex so much was that it was sort of a refreshing break from the rest of the series.
Also, I think I might have liked Series 6 better if I had taken notes throughout. XD Although, by the end, I did have a basic grasp of everything that went on and was fairly unconfused, even if I couldn’t remember every detail.
See, I adore the contortion and I hated the “normal” episodes. Probably because I have a fairly good understanding of how Moffat does his thing, as opposed to RTD- RTD is focused on CHARACTERS and EMOTION. Moffat does PLOT and IDEAS and honestly, I find ideas more interesting to me.
Probably because I try to ignore emotion and I dislike people.
I think it’s really interesting how you said that, because I think that Moffat’s greatest strength is the emotion. The Girl in the Fireplace is one of the best episodes ever because of its emotion. Sure, it had a fantastic plot, but the relationships were what really drove the episode.
Actually, I disagree completely. I’d argue that Moffat’s strength is character and his weakness is plot. Many of his episodes hinge on the interactions between characters or ideas, but if you actually think about the plot it makes little to no sense.
Oh, I simply adore the contortion too, I’m just saying that I think I have a high tolerance for how confused I can be and still want to watch something, and that this is a trait shared by all people. I also just think that in general intensity is better with perspective. What makes Moffat so amazing is plot on contorted and epic proportions in a really mindblowing episode, but you need some calmer episodes for it to be as impressive as it should be. That’s what I think was so perfect about the Big Bang. It was just so much beyond everything else in timey-whimeyness, but you need the balance for it to work out.
Ultimately though, I think it all boils down to if you want a show about the characters, or if you want a show about time travel. And that’s just really a matter of opinion.
It seemed to me that when you have a GIANT overarching plot, you can’t really stick in normal episodes and expect people to think they work.It was odd, like ‘hey big plot about Silence and whatnot I wonder what’s going to happen with that’ then suddenly ‘oh yeah “normal” they’re having an unrelated adventure.’ Because what?!!! I think the way they did things before was far better–with mostly normal episodes, maybe a few small things in those episodes that you don’t understand until later, leading up to a big season finale.
I think the overarching plot is the biggest problem I have with the show now. The charm of Doctor Who was that you could just plop down and watch any old episode (or two-parter) with little backstory.
The biggest problem with 10 was that he got too epic. Now 11 is too epic, but in a different way. Too much “epic” story.
I agree. It’s less of a TV show and more of a movie broken into thirteen parts.
See, I really love arcs. I kind of feel like the wonderful thing about TV is that you can tell the story of a movie over so much longer and put so many more subplots and depth into it. I guess that I just like more complication in plots than most, but I do like that Doctor Who has become less episodic.
SPOILERS SEASON SIX FINALE. SPOILERS SESASON SIX FINALE. SEASON SIX. FINALE. SPOILERS. CAN I STOP CAPSLOCKING NOW?
Now that I have seen the episode:
1. Yes, probably IF he only writes the occasional non-plot relevant sporadic Blink-like episode.
2. Meh, he’s got his flaws.
3. Cake yes!
4. Again, cake yes. If they had drawn it out more I would have liked it more.
5. *has not gotten far enough into series 5 to be a judge of this*
6. Hm, I guess so. She gets less and less confusing. She gets more and more confusing.
7. Yep.
8. Oh, yes, most definitely.
9. Um, of course!
10. We assume he told her later, I guess.
11. Not quite genius. The word is overused a lot. Just very, very inventive.
12. Of course.
I’ve finally decided to read transcriptions of the lost episodes instead of reading summaries or watching reconstructions. My mind just isn’t capable of handling a slideshow-like situation.
Since there’s no My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic thread, I’m just going to talk about the new episode here, even though it isn’t a geeky TV show.
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That was a really fantastic episode. I heard some people saying that it’s the best episode of the series. I’m not sure whether I agree 100 percent, but it’s certainly up there. The whole time Twilight was trying to figure out why Spike was acting weird I was yelling at her, “He’s a dragon, dragons hoard things!” And when Spike and Rarity were falling–adorably touching. And at one point in the background, Lyra and Bon-Bon were talking and Derpy popped up between them. I squealed. At the end of the episode, when Spike was writing his letter to Celestia, he crossed the T in her name and then signed his name in recognizable letters–he’s writing in English, unlike the various theoretical languages and scripts that I’ve seen bronies discussing.
So many good screencappable moments in this episode, too. There’s gonna be some good pictures floating around.
MLP:FiM…sigh…my mother won’t let me watch it.
Why not?
She thinks it brainwashes you.
…the cake?
And that is bad why?
There is an army. Somewhere. Ready to paint the world with ponies and rainbows.
I know it’s so scary!
The Wedding of River Song… why did I watch that out of order?
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It all makes sense now… I’ve been reading all the posts with spoiler warnings, pretty much, and I was confused and scared. And now I’m slightly less confused, but a bit frustrated at Moffat for packing so much awesome stuff into one episode that it made it less awesome.
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That was a comfortably convoluted family tree. I’m glad Amy ended up with Rory. And now the whole River Song/Melody Pond thing is so OBVIOUS. Anyway.
That’s all, I think.
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…Wait, so you haven’t seen A Good Man Goes to War?
Nope. Series 6 still isn’t up on Netflix, which is how I watch Doctor Who. I was (and still am, come to think of it) halfway through Vampires in Venice when I saw The Wedding of River Song DVR’d at a friend’s house. (It was her idea.) For some reason, my normally very strict spoiler policy doesn’t translate to Doctor Who. I’m actually going to enjoy series 5 and 6 better, I think.
Yeah, it’s weird how I watch it.
Just finished Classic Who series 1! It’s so weird how the show used to work. I mean, I was expecting a more closed ending to the series, but nope, the Doctor basically says “we’re going to keep on adventruing!” as the title of the next episode pops up. Then again, there was only a month between series, so it doesn’t really need to leave the viewer with anything. “See you in a month!” Unlike the year we’re going to wait for series 7…
New Year’s Day for me is now Sherlock Series 2 Day. I’m way more excited about that than about anything else next year.
I started rewatching Firefly in Spanish last night. Jayne is renamed Jamie, and his voice is really deep. Badger’s voice is really deep too, and it’s bizarre to hear him without his customary accent. Watching it in Spanish has made me realize for the first time that the name River is really close to “Reaver”, which sort of blew my mind, considering the government experimentation and whatnot.
Possibly an off topic reply, but: I haven’t actually started watching Firefly yet (it’s on Netflix streaming, but my sister saw ten seconds of ‘Serenity’ and loathed it and screamed to turn if off, so I have to wait until she’s gone) and would like to know what it is about. (I’d like to be able to look back on this after I’m immersed in the show and see what I thought of it before I started watching it. I’m a bit miffed I didn’t get the chance to do this with Doctor Who, so…)
It’s sort of like a western…. IN SPACE!
It’s a space western. What more do you need?
Watch. Right now. Do it. And don’t watch Serenity first, or Firefly WILL be ruined.
Right then. My sister hated the first ten seconds of that anyway… which episode do you suggest?
You have to start from the beginning. There’s really no other way. And go by official/DVD order, not broadcast order–so, start with “Serenity”, then “The Train Job”, etc. Once you’ve watched the series, you can watch the movie Serenity.
Oh, okay.
I love QI so much.
It’s that time of year again… Doctor Who Christmas Special time!!
Yes, yes yes! I just went on a huge Christmas special binge with my aunt, and it was so much fun!
ALSO. First episode of the second season of Sherlock in a weeeeeek! Whee!
So…. Guess what I did today?
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Thoughts:
I liked it that Madge and The Doctor found the wrong phonebox at first.
The way The Doctor fixed the house was fascinating.
“Aliens made out of wood. This was always going to happen, you know.” YES!
“Oh, that’s just the caretaker returning to the Time Vortex.”
“Why would you have an extra place set for me?”
–“Because we always do.”
Yes, Doctor, people love you.
And look! The Doctor! Not just happy, but so happy he cried! Yes!
I was hoping for teasers from next series.
Also: Any ideas about next time’s companion(s)? Is it/are they going to be new or returning past characters?
Yes, yes yes it was good!
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-I liked that the Doctor was called the caretaker.
-I love the Doctor and little kids together. He really should open a toy store (well…I guess he did briefly but…), except that he should keep saving the universe too.
-I loved all of those quotations as well
-And crying when you’re happy…”That’s so human.” That is just…so…
-I also loved the part when the Doctor asks her if she’d want to be alone, and she says that no one would want to be alone, which almost made me cry, because the Doctor IS alone, and he wouldn’t rather be…
-overall, it was just very, very sweet.
As for companions in upcoming series, some casting leaks say that Amy and Rory are leaving sometime during season 7, but I have no idea who the new companions are going to be.
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I don’t know anything for certain, but personally I’m kind of hoping for a brand-new companion/new characters. I feel like the series 4 finale was wrapping up the first 4 seasons of New Who, and The Wedding of River Song was wrapping up series 5 and 6, what with the River plot and Amy/Rory and such. I tend to classify New Who into all of Eccleston and Tennant, and then Smith’s seasons with Amy. So… new, I’d say. I feel now that the River plot, and what with Amy and Rory being River’s parents, and River is married to the Doctor now, is kind of finished, and so I dunno… I guess, if what Ooba said is anything to go by, then I’d think Amy/Rory was being dragged out a bit. Just have them settled down happily where the Doctor can visit them occasionally and get a new companion already! (As you may have caught on, I didn’t find Amy particularly spectacular.)
This. I completely agree. I like River but I am so sick of Amy. She’s no better than any of the previous companions, and not quite as good as Rose. I wish she had left at the end of season five.
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This season doesn’t seem too bad, so far. I really disliked the Silent two-parter (too long, confusing, time-skippy and too much River Song), but I did like this one and the pirate one. I always loved the TARDIS and Doctor/TARDIS, so seeing her in human form was cool.
And yay, Neil Gaiman! He co-wrote Good Omens with Sir Pratchett, and now this. I really need to read his books.
Also, Rory has now died four times within two seasons. Do the writers have something against him?
(By the way, Ooba, you were right. I recently started watching Star Trek: The Next Generation, and Wesley Crusher is definitely not my favorite character. He’s a bright, eager, excited, intelligent young boy. And he majorly gets on my nerves.)
And the really depressing thing is as soon as he actually starts developing interesting character, he leaves.
That’s good that you’re watching Star Trek though! What about Data or Worf (my favorite characters) ?
Yes, Data and Worf are awesome, but I don’t think I really have a favorite character though.
Also, I find Q interesting but bothersome. He reminds me of the Dream Lord, if that makes any sense.
I might have found an Eleventh Doctor pony in the MLP:FIM episode “Sweet and Elite”. He’s one of the fancy ponies at the garden party, with Doctor Whooves’ hourglass cutie mark, floppy dark mane, and a bow tie. True, he has a top hat as well, but Eleven does like Nice Hats.
SFTDP, but I just watched the End of Time. SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS DOCTOR WHO THE END OF TIME WHICH EVERYONE HAS SEEN ALREADY BUT ALL THE SAME SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS ALSO HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILERS
Was anyone else reminded of the scene where Harry used the Ressurection Stone in the Forbidden Forest when the Docor was dying and going back in time and such and then the Ood sang to him? It was touching.
With all the other regenerations I’ve seen, it’s felt like regenerations, like it’s okay, but with the End of Time it was like he really was dying. The Tenth Doctor is dead and now we have to put up with this ridiculous fish-finger-and-custard-eating, fez-and-bowtie-wearing, mop-carrying madman a new man saunters away. Of course, that was how I’m supposed to walk away from this feeling, but all the same, it did feel like this. I’ve heard that the point of putting Smith in as Eleven right after Tennant- and having Smith be so… goofy… was to have some comic relief after the angsty-ness of Tennant. My question:
Was there anything wrong with David Tennant’s angsty-moody-chronic depression- Last of the Time Lords- internal conflict- angst? I liked David Tennant’s angsty-moody-chronic depression- Last of the Time Lords- internal conflict- angst. He was awesomely angsty and depressed, and so awesome at the same time. Oh well, at least Smith’s calmed down a bit (minus the occasional fez-wearing bouts of madness), but the Eleventh Hour right after the End of Time was kind of like getting 9,000-degree burns and then plunging your hand into icy snow at absolute zero. (Okay, a few degrees above absolute zero, since at absolute zero you would be dead and none of your nerve endings would be working in order to transmit the excruciating pain you’d be experiencing, not to mention you wouldn’t be able to carry out the action of plunging your hand into said icy snow.)
Says Matt Smith: “I think that’s why he has to make silly jokes and wear a fez, because if he didn’t, he’d hang himself.”
And Eleven’s never going to live down that fez, is he … He wore it for maybe ten minutes, and now his fans and haters alike see it as his defining accessory, even more than the bow tie. :3
I know, right? I mean, people dress up as him and wear the fez. Does he normally wear a fez? No! One episode! I only mentioned the fez because I knew that’s how most people define him. I mean, one episode! Yet half of Chameleon Circuit’s song ‘The Big Bang 2″ is just saying that he’s wearing a fez. Over. And. Over. Again.
I think the problem with the fez was that you shouldn’t give the fandom a whole summer with nothing but a few quotations to use over and over and over. I personally like the fez, but more because it symbolizes his strange fashion sense.
And it’s only a quarter of the song!
Actually the fez makes several appearances — and has been seen on earlier Doctors as well. (And judging from the photos in last year’s Christmas special, it’s something he wears rather frequently, even if only in backstory.)
I think he looked better in the one episode when he wears a black suit and top hat. (But to be totally honest, “better” doesn’t necessarily mean “great”.) Don’t get me wrong, I think fezzes really are cool, but he was wearing an all-brown outfit, and wearing a bright red fez just looked silly. The mop was OK, though.
Yeah, I think that they really played up that regeneration a lot more than the other ones, especially with him talking about how regenerating was like exactly what you described.
See, I’ve always interpreted eleven as more denial than comic relief. I actually really like his goofyness, and I like him as the Doctor, but I also watched the series eleven, nine, then ten. I actually think that the transition between ten and eleven just wasn’t done well, and set a lot of people off Doctor Who, and I actually think that it would have been much better if they put nine between ten and eleven. I really liked both David Tennant angst and Matt Smith goofiness, but I think that the transition just really didn’t work out. Don’t blame eleven for it though.
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I loved the End of Time. I thought it was very well done. I cried both times I watched it, and now I will never watch it again because SO SAD.
I feel like Ten’s angsty-moody-chronic depression-Last of the Time Lords-internal conflict-angst was, at the very least, realistic. I feel like he went through a couple of stages after the Time War–when he was Nine, he was angry. When he was Ten, he got depressed and lonely. Which is to be expected.
I agree with you, Ooba, about the transition; it wasn’t well done at all. Now Eleven’s settled down and he’s pretty cool, but I absolutely hated his character in season five–waaay too goofy. Maybe he’s in denial, but still..
“Denial” would suggest he’s avoiding reality. Catch the deep sadness in his face at times when no is watching — no denial there; he knows full well what’s out there and what’s at stake. But I suspect he’s determined not to let the gloom destroy him, hence the manic tap dance. Sometimes embracing the absurdity can get you through when nothing else can.
I think a lot of the goofiness is because of who he was as 10. 11 has all those unhappy memories, and knew he was so sad for such a long time, but at the same time it wasn’t him. There’s a distance there, and that unburdening would have made him feel very happy, comparatively. And 10 was a very human doctor. 11 has that alien aspect to him that I really like. You remember he’s not human, you don’t have to be reminded he’s a Time Lord.
Yeah, I guess denial wasn’t the best word, I think I meant more rejecting that part of himself. I just thought that 9 would go better between 10 and 11, because he’s angry and sort of depressed, but has these wonderful little moments of silliness, and then 11 is more silly but has his moments of sadness when no one’s watching. I completely agree with Jadestone on the alien thing, and I like it better too, but I know that not everyone is the same way. Personally, in some ways, I think that 10 was too human.
I’m currently watching Nowhere Man, a rather obscure TV show from the mid-90s. Its plot is fairly standard nowadays, but it was pretty original when it first came out. It got canceled far too soon. Has anyone else seen it?
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Speaking of Eleven and angst, I was wondering what other people think was in the Doctor’s hotel room? I think either an evil version of himself (like the Dream Lord) or all the people whose lives he’s ruined. Poor Time Lord, I just want to give him a hug.
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Well, the door is numbered 11, so I think that the first idea seems more likely, except that I think I had a darker view on it than you, because I thought it was just himself, not an evil version or anything. To him, he doesn’t need to be made any more evil. Also, it begin him fits in with the whole “ultimate question” thing.
I did read a fanfiction once where Justin Beiber was behind the door.
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Well, the Doctor is hundreds of years old and has traveled to the most distant planets and saved the universe countless times. It makes sense that his worst fear would be the most evil being in time and space. Never say never.
Two days until Sherlock.
-explosion-
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… Eh. I didn’t like this episode much. Maybe because it was packed into one episode, so it seemed kind of rushed and very random. Or just because I don’t like River Song. I don’t understand why the Doctor had to marry her, and I thought the whole “lol it was a robot i’m not dead” was too easy of a solution.
I was hoping that Eleven might leave Amy, Rory, and River behind and find some new companions (Amy used to be awesome, but now she just has to be rescued all the time), but as he’s now married to River it doesn’t seem likely. And I do want to know what his name is in the next season.
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Rainbow*Storm- I agree, “It’s a robot” was too simple. However, I preffered it to a whole bunch of “wibbly wobbly timey wimey alternate universe time energy memories TARDIS universe timey wimey oh wait and this means I’m not dead anymore”. Also, I hope the next season won’t focus as much on the Doctor having some sort of threat to his life. It’s not as suspenseful after a while. But I suppose next season he’ll have to die, seeing as that’s Matt’s last season and he’ll regenerate. Perhaps there could be some sort of threat to Earth and then he could die saving it and then regenerate? I’m not sure how much of “The Doctor is goign to die” I can take. Save that for when he’s really going to die/regenerate at the end. But I don’t think we’ll ever learn his name. I think it’s one of those things you never find out.
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That was better than I thought it would be! Wow, I quite enjoyed it. And yes, I did scream “HE’S WEARING A FEZ” multiple times. I thought it was going to be all mixed up and timey-wimey and complicated. But it was pretty followable. Wow. That was great. I liked it. Now I have to wait for Netflix to load Series 6. *angstangst* But we can go back and rewatch things! Yay! ((I had a dream last night that there was a whole season with 10 that we hadn’t watched, and I was all excited to start it. Then I woke up from a completely seperate dream (the pep band was playing at a football game and I had completely forgotten my trombone) and was very disappointed that the first one hadn’t been true. The second one, about the trombone, I could have done without.))
DID I MENTION HE WAS WEARING A FEZ???? *squee* Y’know, I think Matt Smith is starting to grow on me. I won’t mind another season with him.
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I don’t know, I though that the robot solution was actually really smart, especially since they introduced the flesh and then made it clear that the Doctor who got shot wasn’t flesh, and made everyone overlook the other shape shifter. I actually liked how it was so obvious but you never would have thought of it. And by “timey whimey…etc.” were you describing the Big Bang? Because that’s not quite how I interpreted it.
I don’t know about the Doctor’s name thing…There’s always the ultimate question…hey! What if his name is 42?
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That’s actually what my friends sometimes call me…
But by ‘timey wimey, etc’ I just meant the someitmes confusing ways in which the Doctor gets out of situations where the audience doesn’t quite know what’s happening. I wasn’t referring to the Big Bang; I quite liked the Big Bang.
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Guys, I have so many feels.
Mostly about Mycroft and Sherlock and Irene. Mostly about Sherlock, okay, because I was writing up a 2,000 word essay that no one is going to read about Irene Adler and I realized something really important.
So one of the pivotal moments in the episode is the one on the airplane, in which Irene reveals that the whole conflict that’s been going on has never been between her and Sherlock. It’s been between her and Mycroft, who she and Moriarty consider a much more worthy adversary. And this is super-demoralizing to Sherlock and confusing and unhappy-making and et cetera, but it made me realize something important.
The conflict in “A Scandal in Belgravia†is entirely between Mycroft and Irene. On every level.
Only it’s not between Mycroft and Irene, it’s between the things they represent. More specifically, it’s between the things they represent in Sherlock himself. Mycroft, with his relentless ambition and cold little comments like “Caring is a disadvantageâ€, has obviously been the primary influence in Sherlock’s life so far. Sherlock is super-unemotional and ambitious himself, just like his big brother. But Irene gets her power from human relationships and society, which is just beginning to have an influence on Sherlock. And in the final scene of the episode, in which he saves her from terrorists, it becomes clear that Irene has actually won. She’s won Sherlock’s loyalty, and the power of relationships and human connection that she represents has begun to have influence on his heart.
I think that’s going to be the main conflict of Season 2, anyway. Sherlock’s eventual transition from this cold, uncaring creature of ration to someone who can have normal human relationships with people like Watson and Irene.
This is really interesting.
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Ooh, thought-provoking post, Cat’s Eye.
I agree with Irene=Emotion; Mycroft=Logic. As I’ve thought the episode over a few times, I’ve noticed a couple more allegorical bits.
Throughout most of the episode, Sherlock shifted between Irene’s zone and Mycroft’s zone, changing his attitude and method somewhat to accommodate. It was working fine, he was moving right along with the case, just so long as Mycroft and Irene didn’t intersect too much. Then the scene on the plane came, with both Mycroft and Irene. Sherlock lost the plot. While Irene and Mycroft argued their terms, Sherlock was arguing with himself about Emotion and Logic. He had been shifting to accommodate whichever was present at a given moment, okay, they’re together–so why not choose both Logic and Emotion? Once he’s done that, he’s free to think of Irene’s logical and emotional password. He’s free to choose to win the day for Mycroft, who, like Logic, has a long-standing presence in Sherlock’s world. And he’s free to go and win a different day for Irene, who, like Emotion, is a new idea he’d like to stay on Earth.
(Somewhat unrelated: This is the best portrayal of Mrs. Hudson I’ve ever seen. “Mrs. Hudson, leave Baker Street? England would fall!” I rather think it might.)
Alright, take note, apparently my Classic Who quest began in October. Everyone remember that. I need to know how long it took me when I’m finished.
I’m halfway through “The Dalek Invasion of Earth” now.
“Here, take this and shut up.” That’s my Doctor!
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Yes.
YES
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What did I even just watch. I think my brain is short-circuiting a little bit and I might try to write a post about the episode tomorrow but right now I don’t think I can attain enough coherence.
Is this a good thing?
This is a very good thing.
*wishes he had a time machine so he could be in May*
Oh, just find it online!
*wishes he weren’t all self-conscious and didn’t mind using proxies or downloading torrents*
You don’t really have to do either of those. Just make sure you have a decent popup blocker/antivirus program and look around. Personally, I can almost always find something that I don’t have to download or do anything special for.
“Planet of the Dead” was extremely hard to find for some reason, though.
I literally never download things online if there’s a legal way to obtain them, and I’m going to buy these on iTunes once they become available. Let yourself get them this once!
I can’t wait for new Doctor Who! It’s not that far away, really.
…Yeah, it is that far away. We’re still in the depths of winter and Doctor Who waits in the Autumn like a shining beacon of nerdy hope.
I’ve been watching the first season of New Who(despite the fact that I have very few nerds to interact with, this place is nerdy enough that there’s a TV audience for reruns of Doctor Who as well as multiple series of Star Trek) and it’s so much better than 5 and 6.
Yesterday I watched The Doctor Dances. When I first saw it, I was an innocent little 9-year-old who had no idea what Captain Jack was talking about half the time. Or what “so many species, so little time” meant.
Now I love it. And yes, I find him rather attractive.
I need to convince my sister to watch more Doctor Who.
She had watched seasons 2-4 (and the specials afterwards). Why only those?
You guessed it. David Tennant.
BUT SHE NEEDS TO WATCH 9.
The only thing that seems to work is money (she says she’ll watch an episode for five dollars…), but… eh. I’m not sure if I’m that financially motivated…
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I accidentally a post-Reichenbach ficlet? I don’t know, I’ve never actually written any kind of fan anything before. But here it is anyway!
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It was the little things.
Boxes of nicotine patches at the grocery store. Upturned collars on mannequins emphasizing the cheekbones that did not point from their plastic faces.
Harry came by to make sure the trash was being taken out and found her old phone buzzing amongst the papers and peels. Twenty-one texts, twelve missed calls. The charging port was deeply scratched; she did not think to ask.
Gunshots causing all the wrong flashbacks. Coffee with sugar. Coffee without sugar.
Opening the fridge, fingers pressed tight into the ridges of the aluminum crutch, eyes closed. Sometimes he gave up and went out to dinner. He still got the discounts and free meals at a few places, but as he figured out which they were, he stopped showing up.
A purple shirt, a sheet. Ashtrays. A splash of yellow paint on a subway wall. The sound of a violin.
He was pleased to discover that he could handle seeing Mycroft. The expression on the bloodied and bruised face was unreadable as it watched him dragged backwards from the silent halls.
His laptop, always where he’d left it. The rictus of a skull, which on bad days made him feel ill and on worse days felt like the grin of an old friend.
The outline of a footprint. Sirens. The color pink.
He could never stop waiting for the door to open.
AAAAHHH don’t read about Reichenbach Fall don’t read about Reichenbach Fall…
Anyway, yesterday I watched The Romans! I just have to say: Oh my gosh Nero is hilarious. And I think this is actually the first serial where I legitimately liked the Doctor. He’s like an old friend to me now. It’s fun watching all his habits.
Well, as of tonight I’ve finished New Who. I feel like I should just acknowledge that somehow. Also point out that maybe there should be a new thread? I mean 800+ comments, I’m surprised there hasn’t been a new one. I feel like there has been…