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SPOILERS:
Prince Caspian (movie)
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (book)
Indiana Jones
Percy Jackson
Deathly Hallows
Order of the Phoenix (movie)
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER.
Prince Caspian and Susan? Odd couple. Completely not needed for the movie. At all. RAWR. Darn movie ruiners.
SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD SPOILER.
GMO! Mundt works for Britain. The thought hadn’t even occurred to me until I read about Smiley’s paying Liz’s rent. Even then…I was confused. I thought maybe they were intending to frame Fiedler. But, no, Mundt that Nazi cold-blooded murder worked for control *shudders*. Brilliant plot twist.
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Thank you ever so much for this thread GGGAPA’s. Its absolutely perfect!
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1-most certainly. When I read that, I went ‘WHAT? ARRRGH!’
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1-most certainly. When I read that, I went ‘WHAT? ARRRGH!’
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1- haven’t seen it yet but read that accidentally anyways. My eyes read to quickly. and whiskey tango foxtrot to that. That should not happen!
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1- Really????? Awww. That sounds kind of cute.
So, I’m addicted to cookies. And I hate it!!!!! If there are cookies in the jar, I have to eat at least 5. It makes me feel fat. But they’re soooo good….. It drives me up the wall! I try to control my addiction by chewing gum, but there are times when I don’t have any to spare.
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7- Ok:
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I love that book.
I’m rereading the Deathly Hallows, and I swear, I don’t think that there will be a time where I won’t cry while reading that book. Especially the death of Remus and Tonks. I was reading that in school on Thursday and I started crying in the middle of study hall. The teachers were all :”Aw, what’s wrong?????” I could barely answer.
SPOILER PERCY JACKSON.
I can’t belive that they found Pan!
uh….i don’t have any spoilers but I HAVE TO POST! period.
Spoiler for Prince Caspian movie.
INSANE!!!! Why did they add that completely unnecessary pairing? They were so faithful to the book in other portions! Why did they have to go and ruin it?
If they HAD to add romance to the movies, why couldn’t they have WAITED until they reached a book in which it was at least HINTED AT BY THE AUTHOR?
I expect movies to adapt the book a bit, but I don’t expect them to look like non-canon fanfics.
SPOILER: DEATHLY HALLOWS.
8 – Ironically, I just re-read that a few days ago. I don’t get why Tonks and Remus had to die.
The only part I really cried at was when he was walking to his death with all of his dead relatives and friends. And Dobby’s death.
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN MOVIE AND DAWN TREADER BOOK.
11 – Exactly. Or even when it’s obvious. I mean, if they really must have romance, wouldn’t Ramandu’s daughter (at the end of Dawn Treader) be a better time to do that? As it is, it’ll be a little strange now that he’ll have had relationships with both Susan and Ramandu’s daughter…
12- SPOILER.
Precisely.
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER.
13 – I mean, how awkward will that be for Lucy and Edmund to see them obviously flirting, when Caspian was supposedly in love with their sister?
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER.
14- They’ll probably cut out the entire romance. So Hollywood adds a totally unnecessary pairing and takes out an author-sanctioned one. Typical. XP
12- SPOILER. It is UNNECESSARY DEATH, that’s what it is!
NO SPOILER; So, I had plans to meet up with a couple friends down by the lake today. Andwhen I got there, they weren’t there.
I don’t know why. It bums me out.
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16- Unnecessary death does happen in real wars.
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER.
15 – But then who will Rillian’s mom be?
Wait. It won’t matter. They’re not making a Silver Chair movie.
DEATHLY HOLLOWS SPOILER.
16 – I know.
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16 – Make sure that when you post a spoiler warning you have a period somewhere in there. Otherwise the whole thing shows up on the Recent Comments sidebar.
16- SEMI-SPOILER. Yeah, JK Rowling went a little murderous there at the end.
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER
The whole romance thing was clearly there to add some flair to the movie, but it makes no sense in the long run.
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER. (Sorta) Well JR said she saved someone only to have two people she didn’t mean to die, die. I think the two not-meant-to diers are Tonks and Fred (or was it George? I’ve forgotten already!).
Any Eragon movie ranters that I can rant with?
19- NO SPOILER- Remember that Muse contest about if Dumbledore was really dead? I remember one with it saying, “First Hermoine will die, then Ron will die, then Harry will kill Voldemort but die doing it, then the the Death Eaters will kill everyone including themselves!” Then they show J.K. Rowling locked in the aslyum thinking, Ron die, Hermoine die, Harry die, EVERYONE DIE!!!! Another person drew a picture of J.K. Rowling in a coffee house with a paper saying DIE.
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER.
19 – It didn’t make sense in the short run either.
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER.
20 – I think it was George. And the person she saved was Mr. Weasley in the 5th book, by the way.
Oops. Double post. 21 wasn’t up yet, I swear!
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21 – Yes, I remember that! It bothered me how a bunch of people wrote in who hadn’t even read the books.
19- There is no long term. the dawn treder is the last film.
24- That’s probably a good thing, because the complications it will cause in VOTDT are plenty.
But still… *sniffs* Magician’s Nephew… Silver Chair… gone… *sniffs*
25 –
25- I think the Silver Chair was made by the BBC a while back. I thought Nephew and Battle were to religious. Disney would be in a pickle by making them.
Then again, Disney does not own the Narina movie rights. those are owned by Walden Media. It’s possible, tho not likely, that they might send them to another studio. It’s not likely since Disney Owns the Theme Park Rights, and Other Studios would like to have them (Sony, WB, Universal, Paramount and Disney all run theme parks. I don’t think FOX has any, but Fox content is in both Disney and Universal.)
27- Yes, the overt religiosity (word?) would be a problem.
27 – Yeah, that’s true. I hadn’t thought of it that way. Those two are probably the most religious of the series.
Slightly random, but I find it strange how The Chronicles of Narnia and His Dark Materials are two of my favorite serieses, considering the fact that they’re nearly polar opposites.
BREIF INDIANA JONES 4 SPOILER.
The aliens were weird. Their heads creeped me out. And the ANTS don’t even get me STARTED on them. I had to look away when they went all in his mouth ew ew ew. I really can’t stand that stuff.
But it was still awesome.
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17- Yes, I know, but the thing that makes me mad is that JKR had it in her power to control them from dying. And she DIDN’T SAVE THEM. I mean, weren’t Fred, Hedwig and Dobby enough????? Geez, woman, cut us some slack. We only have so much salt water in our systems to cry out.
19- She’s a sadist, that’s what she is.
HP SPOILER.
31- Why would she save them? War is cruel.
9-CPITAL LETTERS!!!!!!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
You just ruined the book for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SPOILER: INDIANA JONES.
I never thought Indy would get involved in the supernatural. And he’s a dad!!! Aw!!! Henry Jones III!!!
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
I actually haven’t seen the movie, but someone told me what happened. I mean, COME ON! Susan isn’t even ever going back to Narnia.
PRINCE CASPIAN SPOILER.
34- AND he’s got another love interest in VOTDT, so that was a MAJOR Hollywood blunder.
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
*makes a vow never to see any other Narnia movies ever again* What about that star’s daughter? Rilian?
35 – Are you serious????
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SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
35 – I wonder if they even read the whole series before making the movie.
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36- That’s the one I was referring to. They’ll probably cut her out of the movie.
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
38 – *dies*
Please remember to include the title of the work along with the spoiler message. With all the referrals to prior posts, it’s easy to slip into reading a comment unintentionally..
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
38 – If they cut her father out of the movie as well I’ll…I’ll…be very disappointed in them.
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
24- Really? I was hoping that was just a rumor.
27- All of the movies were made before (I think) but I don’t know who made them, and I don’t think they were very good quality.
41- They’re going to butcher Dawn Treader. Hollywood managed to stay loyal to the book for Lion, Witch, and Wardrobe and were pretty close in Caspian, but they can’t remain so for another movie. (I don’t like the idea, but it’s probably going to happen)
42- “Hollywood” does not do any of this. this is solely because producers wreak havoc on scripts. Screenwriters, if they had it there way, would not ruin books.
I doubt that most screenwriters would make movies out of books.
33-Why am i now LiP?
I still prefer to be called NerdAPOI, even if it is no longer my official name.
43- Hello,
Life is Purple.
Long Time No See.
I’m not a spoiler—I don’t like to spoil.
32- HP SPOILER.
Ah! Teh! Nee! Pu! They’re AWSOME, that’s why!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I seriously considered making my parents sue her. Like, researching how good her attourneys were, etc. But no, my parents refused.
37-NOT REALLY A SPOILER, BUT WHATEVER- The director of the 5th HP movie didn’t read the book until he got the job.
SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
42 – Are you kidding me? They stayed TRUE to Caspian? What about it???
46- SPOILER HP.
It didn’t seem like he did.
SPOILER: CASPIAN.
47- Besides that, they did. Well, maybe they didn’t. I can’t remember a single thing from the book, and the movie is fast fading from memory.
SPOILERS: PRINCE CASPIAN.
47 – Except for it, of course, it was really pretty good.
Although one conversation (“Say, what do you suppose happens to us in England if we die in Narnia?”) was borrowed from The Last Battle, for no apparent reason.
SEMI-SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
50 – Wasn’t that conversation also in the book, too?
NOT A SPOILER, BUT HERE IS THE WARNING.
49- sign of a bad movie
SEMI-SPOILER: PRINCE CASPIAN.
51 – I thought that it didn’t take place until a later book. I may be wrong, though.
52 – Yes!
I haven’t seen Prince Caspian, but most people are telling me it’s a good movie, but doesn’t follow the book. Is that true?
SPOILER INDIANA JONES.
What is it that Lucas can’t do anything that isn’t Sci-Fi?
SPOILER INDIANA JONES.
I totally agree. The last scene was over the top. FLYING SAUCER+INDIANA JONES=WROOOOONNNNGGG……
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43- I know, but it’s easier to say Hollywood.
CASPIAN SPOILER.
55- It’s a good movie, but it does stray a bit. If you see the movie, you’ll know what I mean.
56 and 57–Yeah, really. I mean, at least the other movies had some basis in archaeological fact. But there aren’t any crystal skulls that I’ve heard of (or aliens, for that matter. *knock on wood*).
59- There are crystal skulls, but most are fakes.
60- Although I think For the Love of God by Hirst is pretty spectacular. Not related at all.
SPOILER “THE SPY WHO CAME IN FROM THE COLD” SPOILER.
Woah! Glad Museblog is back on its feet! I’ve missed so many new threads and so much. Ah well…Not really a spoiler was that? Well, here’s the spoiler part of it:
I ;hearts& the conversation regarding the philosophy of the British secret service between Feidler and Leamas. Particuarly the part in which Feidler says that he likes the English, and Leamas responds that that gives him a nice warm, fuzzy feeling. %^&%* Hilarious!
Its odd…though Liz’s ideas are much more in accord with my own thoughts, she comes across as knaive and unskilled, whereas Leamas, Control, and Smiley, despite their apparent ruthlesness, come across as sophisticated.
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57 – I thought it was funny.
SPOILER: INDIANA JONES.
“Three times it drops.”
I love that line!
64 – Alter Ego alert!
But I love that line too. Especially in that tone of voice!!1
HARLOT HIGH AND LOW SPOILER.
Teehee…the baron has a funny way of talking!
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64- INDY SPOILER
I loved that whole scene! And the Ozzy dude was Ollivander in Sorcerers Stone, in case no one got that.
Midnight Fiddler and anybody else who has read Great Expectations (or any other Charles Dickens book at that) purlease come over here for an intensive spoiler-crammed discussion!
Danke.
67 – HE WAS???
Seriously, I never knew that.
SPOILER: PERCY JACKSON.
9- Really? I must read the next book now! *scurries off to find it*
SPOILER: INDIANA JONES.
30 – Eew, normally I’m not squeamish but I also cringed at the ant scenes. My curiosity is piqued, though: are there any real ants that act that way?
57, 59 – Agreed.
My major issue was with the scene where all the random wild monkeys band together to help the good guys. I guess once they put the aliens in the plot, they decided anything was acceptable.
68 – *is here*
SPOILER INDIANA JONES.
70- Army ants. Although the scene was a bit exaggerated (they do not climb on top of one another to reach prey, nor do they drag said prey into their hills), they do march in swarms like that.
Oops-forgot the spoiler. Thanks!
HIS DARK MATERIALS SPOILER!.
has anyone noticed what Lee Scoresby looks like? or that Iorek has armor on his chest and stomach?
more on it:
I really like the trilogy not only for the story, but for the politcal structure that’s portrayed. something very like our own.
INDY SPOILER
69- Yeah, I said teh same when i saw that. But you have to listen to the voice to get the real Ollivander feeling.
71- That was teh coolest scene ever!!!!!!!!!! I loved the “big damn ants!”
71 – Well, it’s their job to make it look scary!
68 – Me!
68-
.Hi!
68/75/76- Huzzah! Thanks for showing…
SPOILER GREAT EXPECTATIONS SPOILER.
You know what I find cool about all the Dickens books. He makes utterly implausible plot twists seem, at least somewhat, real. Also, the characters are terrififc, except for Pip himself. Its funny, but he is the most average, the least quirky, and delicately molded (if you ask me, that is). I thinks its purposeful; Pip is intended to be the most human.
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76- HI BACK!
NOT A SPOILER, JUST SOMETHING I’M UPSET ABOUT; So, while I’m writing this, I have another tab open to Hot Topic.com. And I just searched ‘Paramore’. Well, a lot of really cool stuff came up, but you know what I would really like??? Just a white, form-fitting tshirt with the Riot! cd are all over it. Wouldn’t that be teh bomb????? and I’d like to email the Hot Topic company my excellent idea, but my comp rejected the email server thing that popped up, saying that it mught harm my PC. Crap!!!!!!!!!
74 – Oh… Ollivander scared me.
Oh yeah… I just searched the beatles, and all that came up were some crappy tshirts for fat guys!!!!!!!!! ARGGG! Make beatles tees for juniors!!!!!!
80 – I have a Beatles tee! But it’s not fitted, it’s just a tshirt. Go to Land of the Sun in Northgate Mall in San Rafael, CA!
Ranting…
My school is sexist! We are forced to wear dresses to the 8th grade dance! I hate dresses! And it’s next Friday, so at 2 I’m leaving to pick up PunkGoddess and my other friend and we have to go dress shopping. I hate shopping! Unless it’s for books or computer games or music.
Why is shopping so interesting? It’s wasteful! The cheerleader types at my school go shopping every weekend! They have more clothes than they could ever ever ever need! I loved the article about the dumpster diving guy. It made me happy.
(/rant)
What a long post.
(Sorry…double post….I didn’t know it was just for the movies.
Sorry.)
82 – It’s not. I don’t think.
77.-
Definately.
81- *eyeroll* Yeah, I’ll get right oin that. My parents are TOTALLY willing to drive to CA for a t shirt.
And having to wear dresses is not necessarily sexist. Sexist would be like, “You have to wear this and that and do this bla bla bla and all the boys can wear whatever!” Anyway, shopping isn’t THAT bad. But, then again, I’m addicted to retail therapy, sooo… yeah.
And the dumpster diver rocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPOILER HARLOT HIGH AND LOW SPOILER.
*reels* Herrara is a convict impersonating a priest…Shockage!
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SPOILER/SHAMELESS PLUG.
My mom wrote an essay for a new anthology [Sorry, Bookworm. Too much identifying information. Good for your mom, though! –Rebecca]
SPOILER: INDIANA JONES.
Do you really think there will be more sequels? Involving Mutt rather than Indy?
While we were watching the movie, when the fedora blew to Mutt, my mom groaned and said, “Oh, man. The passing of the baton.” loudly. I think we bothered more than a few people.
SPOILER: INDIANA JONES.
Yes.
SPOILER-MISSSWANN’S LIFE
I’m seeing Kung Fu panda this afternoon. *eyeroll* I’ll tell you all if it’s good or not.
90-Yes, please do.
90-Oh yeah! It has Dustin Hoffman in it…A mon avis, he’s a terrific actor, but, with no offense intended as I haven’t seen it and obviously am not qualified to judge, the plot seemed a tad dumb…
I saw the most hilarious film last night: “Doctor Strange Love” or “How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb”.
COULD POTENTIALLY BE REGARDED AS A SPOILER.
Its about a fairly nutty American general who issues the order to wage nuclear war on Russia. Because, of some petty legal provisions, the president and Pentagon are unable to cancel the aircraft’s orders and…watch the film!
END INFORMATION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE REGARDED AS A SPOILER.
If you didn’t read the spoiler bit above, here’s a summary that reveals even less: cold war tensions are high and a secluded base receives the order to execute an emergency war plan for no apparent reason. Madness ensues. All MBers go watch the film!
93- That reminds me of “What About Bob?”
94-*reels* I went and looked up the plot to that film after your comment. Could potentially be excellent…or VERY DISTURBING? How do you rank it?
WHAT ABOUT BOB? SPOILER.
95- Pretty much really boring for about the first half, but then it gets better. Something about me enjoys watching what-his-name’s attempts to get rid of Bob be thwarted. But Bob isn’t a very enjoyable character until the end.
I need to see a movie
/random
SPOILER “THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI” SPOILER.
Help! I am watching this right now and am scared out of my mind. I know Rosalie’s right! Her husband must be behind this…And its probably some insane nefarious plot. *watches* Oh no!!! Someone will die. But who? Who? *shudders* Io sono very scared at the moment.
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SPOILER “THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI” SPOILER.
Eep! George is ruthless. He’s already killed that snoop of a butler, Broome. But he’s not the one who will die… Its someone else. And Michael will be framed. My Gawd! What a sickening expression is plastered on George’s face. *shudders repeatedly*
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SPOILER “THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI†SPOILER.
GMO! Michael is George’s alibi. Bannister’s being shot! I have a feeling that some serious gore is just down the road! And now its a race…Who will get their first? Can Micahel unfoil George’s mostrous plot, the loony? *reels*
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81 – Agh, same here. I hate shopping for clothes – unless it’s at a secondhand store, because they usually have cool stuff.
85 – Sadly, that sounds kind of like my old school. The uniform code forced girls to wear skirts at all times (even for PE!), no pants allowed underneath even though it was really cold in winter, and no ties because “ties are only for boys.” Ugh!
PRINCE CASPIAN MOVIE SPOILER WARNING, BUT ONLY FOR THE MOVIE, SINCE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BOOK, EXCEPT FOR THE VOYAGE OF THE DAWN TREADER.
What was the whole rivalry between Caspian and Peter about? You want Caspian/Original Narnian King rivalry, go to Deathwater Island from the book mentioned above.
Can’t some more people post here?
*waiting impatient cricketishly for Bookworm*
I’m here!
Yay! *rejoices*
SPOILER METAMORPHISIS SPOILER.
I completely luv the ending! It fits the style of the book so exactly…how Samsa’s predicament is completely forgotten and looked over by the parents who just choose to comment on the daughter’s good looks. It reinforces the surrealist hue so much!
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SPOILER METAMORPHOSIS SPOILER.
I really how different it is from modern fantastical writing! If this was modern, they would have to go on an epic Quest to de-spell Gregor! Instead, the only magical thing is his transformation. The rest of the book is about dealing with that, normally!
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SPOILER METAMORPHISIS SPOILER.
And I love their reactions; its as though he’s contracted some sort of disease, not magically turned into a cokroach. The whole book is written with suc great deadpan humour…
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KIND OF SPOILER WALLE KIND OF SPOILER.
It’s kind of depressing almost, but it’s SOOO FUNNY!
END OF WEIRD AND SHORT SPOILER THAT ISN’T REALLY A SPOILER.
SPOILER WALL-E SPOILER.
109-Yeah, I agree- I wonder how those people can walk with out any bones? My favorite part was when Eve was watching her memories, and when she put Wall-e back together- and everything involving them in between there. My favorite character was Mo. Who was yours?
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SPOILER FAR FROM THE MADDING CROWD SPOILER.
Yay! I finished today, and I am soooooooooo glad that Bathseba saw sense and finally married dear Gabriel Oak. I wish he could pop out of the book so that I could marry him…I have absolutely no qualms about rakish Troy’s death. Boldwood was mentally unstable from the start…
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SPOILER THE TRIAL SPOILER.
I find it so strange how Fraulein Burstner comes back in “The End”. This would be so good for a reading group! Also, K. had too many love interests: Elsa, Fraulein Burstner, the Court Usher’s Wife, Fraulein with Information Officer, Leni!
Ugh! The ending is so depressing! I mean, the book starts out light and farcical, and gets more depressing! Once one gets to “The Flogger” and “Block, the Merchant”, it just gets sadder and sadder. And in the end, K. gets stabbed by a butcher knife! Talk about a happy ending!
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THIS MAY BE A WALL-E SPOILER.
110- I set a wallpaper of Mo as my desktop background.
Wall-E was amazing. The characters, the animation, and the plot, and… everything in between. Everything was so cute. Except in a much more meaningful way.
Wall-E’s trailer kind of reminded me of my room…
Waste ALLocation-Earth class.
113 – the video game looks good.
I love the way WALL-E says his name.
WALL-E SPOILER.
In the 22nd century, the megacorporation Buy n Large assumed every economic service on Earth, including the government. Overrun by un-recycled waste, the planet eventually became so polluted that it could no longer support life. In an attempt to keep humanity alive, Buy n Large sponsored a five-year exodus to outer space aboard hundreds of massive “Executive Starliners”, the largest of which is the Axiom. Thousands of adaptable waste management robots known as WALL-E (Waste Allocation Load Lifter-Earth-Class) were left behind to clean up the planet. However, they failed in their task and 700 years later only one WALL-E (Ben Burtt) remains operational. After centuries of living in micro-gravity, the humans aboard the Axiom have lost considerable bone and muscle mass, rendering them too obese and weak to stand or move without robotic assistance. Every task is now automated, including piloting the ship, which is handled by the autopilot AUTO (voiced by the program MacInTalk).
Centuries of prolonged activation have caused WALL-E to become sentient. He collects items that he finds among the refuse, including spare parts for himself, befriends a cockroach, and saves a seedling plant, which he re-pots in an old boot. He frequently watches a videotape of the 1969 movie Hello, Dolly!, especially the performances of “Put on Your Sunday Clothes” and “It Only Takes a Moment”. This teaches him emotion, emphasizing the act of holding hands (which becomes a motif).
Later, he meets EVE (Extraterrestrial Vegetation Evaluator, voiced by Elissa Knight), a feminine robot from the Axiom sent to Earth to find plant life. He falls in love with her upon first sight, but she does not reciprocate his feelings because her only concern is for her directive. When WALL-E shows her the plant he found, she stores it inside herself and deactivates. WALL-E goes to great lengths to protect her until she is retrieved by the ship that delivered her. Distraught, WALL-E clings to the outer hull as it departs into the depths of space.
Aboard the Axiom, WALL-E follows EVE to her destination. His peculiar behavior causes both humans and robots to act outside their normal routine. In particular, WALL-E causes a M-O (Microbe Obliterator) model-cleaning robot to leave its designated path in order to obsessively clean the filth WALL-E leaves in his wake, and inadvertently awakens two humans, John and Mary (John Ratzenberger and Kathy Najimy respectively), to the world around them and each other.
EVE tries to present the plant to Captain B. McCrea (Jeff Garlin), but finds it is missing. EVE begins to assume that WALL-E took it. AUTO tells the captain that EVE has malfunctioned, whereupon she is sent to the robot repair ward with WALL-E. Mistakenly thinking that the diagnostic machine is trying to hurt her, WALL-E takes EVE’s cannon arm and accidentally frees all the malfunctioning robots. In her attempt to retrieve the arm, she and WALL-E are labeled as rogue robots. EVE tries to send WALL-E back to Earth in an escape pod, but he refuses to leave without her. AUTO’s assistant, GO-4 (“Gopher”), arrives and deposits the missing plant in the pod, which he then launches with the self-destruct armed. WALL-E manages to save the plant. EVE is so happy that WALL-E saved the plant that she “kisses” him (causing a static discharge between the two). She later returns the plant to McCrea. Curious to see images of Earth, McCrea projects EVE’s security camera footage, which shows EVE the lengths to which WALL-E went to protect her, and she begins to fall in love with him. The captain is enthralled by earlier images depicting life as it was before the rise of Buy ‘n Large, and shocked by the environmental devastation on Earth depicted in EVE’s recordings. He decides that humanity must return to Earth to make amends.
However, AUTO insists that they cannot return to Earth, and is forced to reveal that Buy n Large CEO Shelby Forthright (Fred Willard) ordered the autopilots never to do so, having deemed the planet too toxic to ever support life again. Unable to disobey the order, AUTO locks the captain in his quarters and tries to dispose of the plant. When WALL-E refuses to relinquish it, AUTO severely shocks him, burning a hole in his computer chips and temporarily deactivates EVE, throwing them and the plant into a garbage chute. EVE awakens in the waste disposal room where trash is being collected by gigantic WALL-A (Waste Allocation Load Lifter-Axiom-Class) and compressed into huge cubes (with EVE and WALL-E inside two of them) and subsequently jettisoned into space. With M-O’s assistance, EVE and WALL-E are able to escape being ejected with the garbage. EVE then discovers that WALL-E’s motherboard had been badly damaged as a result of the electric shock. EVE searches in vain for replacement parts for WALL-E, even dismissing her original directive to do so. WALL-E presents the plant, insisting that EVE carry out her original directive, which will bring them back to Earth where he can be fixed.
EVE carries WALL-E out, and they recruit the malfunctioning robots and make their way to the main part of the ship. They are aided by the captain, who hotwires the operating systems from the confines of his quarters and directs them to the holo-detector, a pedestal that rises from the floor on the one of the main passenger decks. After tricking AUTO into believing he has retrieved the plant, the captain battles with AUTO, during which the ship is turned on its side, piling the immobile humans in a corner. While EVE protects the humans from the vehicles and large objects falling towards them, AUTO retracts the holo-detector. WALL-E uses his body to jam it open, which crushes him, much to EVE’s horror. McCrea stands up unaided (to the amazement of the passengers) and manually overrides AUTO, restoring order aboard the ship. The humans and robots work together to place the plant in the holo-detector, releasing WALL-E and activating the automatic hyperspace jump back to Earth.
Having arrived on Earth, EVE frantically repairs WALL-E. However, the extent of the damage seem to have re-initialized his memory and personality: he begins crushing his treasured knick-knacks into cubes, following his original directive. EVE’s attempts to make him remember prove useless; as a parting gesture, she takes hold of his hand and leans her head towards his while humming the song “It Only Takes A Moment”, before kissing him again. The resulting spark reboots WALL-E’s memory and he suddenly recognizes her as they clasp hands. With a renewed sense of purpose, humanity and robots begin working together to restore Earth’s biosphere, directed by the enthusiastic Captain McCrea.
There’s the wikipedia entry on WALL-E.
117 – I felt compelled to read that; now the movie’s been ruined for me.
Oh, well.
WALL-E spoiler.
Those WALL-As were freaky.
MAJOR VICTORY OF EAGLES SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
This was, in my opinion, the best book yet. Temeraire’s POV was absolutely wonderful- he’s such a winning character, especially when you get inside his head. The whole storyline of Napoleon’s invasion was well-thought-out and entertaining. It was a risky business to create such a radical deviation from “real” history, but Novik pulled it off with panache. It was entirely believable (and yes, I’m including the dragons). The ending saddened me (Poor Laurence, leaving his country and everyone he loves behind- and Temeraire isn’t that well off, either, he might never see Maximus or Lily again!) but it also intrigued me. I hope she writes more books: it will be interesting to see what Granby, Tharkay and Laurence do in New South Wales, and whether or not they manage to keep Temeraire and Iskierka in check. (I can imagine the little Kazilik hunting kangaroos- “Oh, these hopping beasts are very tough, but rather tasty once roasted…”) I wonder what sort of dragons Australia has… or even if it has any at all. Its fauna has always been very different in “real” history due to its isolation, and it doesn’t seem like the barren climate could support any very large creatures like dragons. As for the rest of the world, England and France have already begun granting dragons rank, and giving them wages: will the rest of Europe follow suit?
The new edition was also very nice: elegant cover, hardbound, with none of the cramped, small print that made the nineteenth-century style even more impenetrable. All in all, a wonderful chunk of literature.
Robert: Please ask Pollyhymnia to come on MB as soon as it’s convenient, Alice hasn’t read VoE yet and I desperately need a fellow Temeraire fan to discuss the book with.
Victory of Eagles Spoiler.
120- O.O
Forgive me for reading the spoilers, but I can’t help myself.
AUSTRALIA??? GRANBY??? THARKAY??? LEAVING THE COUNTRY???
COOL!!!
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VICTORY OF EAGLES SPOILER (MASSIVE)!.
122- Yes. His sentence is commuted to transportation and labor after sterling service during Napoleon’s invasion of England.
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(Note: this happened presumably before Empire of Ivory.)
QUINT: Do you see TEMERAIRE continuing as a series indefinitely or do you plan to stop after a certain number of books?
NAOMI NOVIK: I’ve agreed on another 3 books with Del Ray, which will take us up through Book 6. I have ideas, fairly clear outlines in my head, for those 3 books. I haven’t really thought far beyond that. I would not continue the series if I didn’t have particular ideas that I still wanted to explore just to continue it. But there are all sorts of things that I would like to explore, that I’ve dropped little hints about in the earlier books… things like the Incas. I’d love to get to visit them. Explore the Colonies, explore Australia, in this universe. There’s, of course, India and a possible return to China.
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Argh!. Why did I come here? The first comment was not necessary for my brain to know! *sob* *leaves thread immediately*
MUST RANT AND SPAZ ABOUT VICTORY OF EAGLES… where are all the other fans?… gak… *twitches incoherently* “Rum Rebellion!!”
ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER.
Odd.
Urk, the time travel bit confused me… Minerva never showed up.
Um, guys. The period doesn’t stop the comment in the bar anymore.
128 – I noticed!!! WHY DOES IT NOT???
SEMI-BREAKING DAWN-SPOILER!!!
Kay, I started reading it, I’m on chapter 7. I officially:
1) REALLY wish I was Bella
2) Oh…let me take that back.
130- Why do you take it back? She gets Edward, after all!!!!!!
ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER.
I’m soooooo sad that Minerva wasn’t mentioned…she had good potential.
SPOILER SPOILER ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER CAKING WUNG BUTTONS ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER.
132- You kidding? I didn’t like her much. Not because she was unlikeable, but because she was so much like Artemis.
Oh, caking wung buttons, I forgot the spoiler. *wears sackcloth for a year and a day* *pies self*
[Fortunately, a gnome was in the gneighborhood.]
Obviously a gnome with an interesting sense of humor.
SPOILER SPOILER ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER.
133- … You mean she was unlikeable.
SPOILER ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER.
136- Artemis may be unlikeable to his fellow characters, but readers (including self) love him.
Minerva is unlikeable both to characters and readers.
SPOILER ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILER.
137- Well, yes.
Honestly, I hardly even remember Minerva. I didn’t like her, that much I know. I think that I felt slightly threatened on Artemis’s behalf.
SPOILER: ARTEMIS FOWL.
I love the twin boys!!!! They’re adorable!!! I liked Minerva. She was left out.
Anyway, I reeeeaaaaallly liked the part where Holly kisses Artemis. 
Also, I was a bit confused about the time travel bit. 
Can someone help me out?
MAJOR AF TIME PARADOX SPOILER!!!.
139- Opal Koboi was inspired (by Artemis’s appearance in the past) to a diabolical scheme: namely, going forward in time, remote-mesmerizing Artemis’s mother and faking the symptoms of Spelltropy, in order to make him go back in time and allow her to seize the lemur, which would allow her to go forward in time in the first place.
I think.
SPOILERIZING OF A FAIRLY MAJOR VARIETY.
The time travel was actually a major paradox, which could not actually exist! Also, the quote of the day: “Artemis simple-toon.”
SPOILER.
140 – I got that, but I was confused about the other bit…
141 – …
Artemis simple-toon!
SPOILERS ARTEMIS FOWL SPOILERS LOST COLONY SPOILERS TIME PARADOX SPOILERS
141- What puzzled me was the incongruity with the Lost Colony. In that one, Artemis sends a Neutrino blast two minutes into the past, knocking out Abbot and rearranging an entire chain of events. The only person who remembered was the one who had changed the past. But in Time Paradox, the changes made to the past were found to have been that way all along.
ARTEMIS FOWL
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LOST COLONYTIME PARADOX SPOILERMethinks the whole double Artemis thing was very confuzzuling. :?I had to re-read some of the parts to get it figured out. Anyone have the same problem? Or do I just have defective comprehention skills
(sorry for double post)
Grrrr…. I can never get my smilies and stuff to work!!!!!
(145) Hi, Syllabub. You need to put two spaces between smileys when they’re in a series like that.
146- oh, thanks!!! That will help a lot!!!!!
That’s a spoiler for Time Paradox, not Lost Colony. And I had the same problem.
BREAKING DAWN SPOILER.
131–Well, then she gets preggers. And it eats out her innards. But then she’s a vampire, so that’s sweet.
*Sigh*…I love how BD ended. Everyone was happy, there was no more fighting, etc. Good ending to a great series.
148- whoops!
[Spoiler Gnome woke from a nap and made the necessary adjustment. –Admin.]
BREAKING DAWN SPOILER.
Yes, I know how it ends. No, I haven’t read the last 520 pages of New Moon or anything following it.
The ending is laaaaaaaaaaame. And stupid. (Reneesme? Give the kid a break!) It has teen pregnancy (I don’t care if she’s married, and still, married at eighteen?!?!?!) and some… erm… graphic stuff.
I thought Twilight was good, though, but BD seems (SEEMS, mind you) bad.
Please don’t kill me, Misswann.
BREAKING DAWN SPOILER.
151-I think you’re right! I don’t care how much “true love” there is between Bella and Edward, she still shouldn’t be married at age 18. It’s too much responsiblilty.
BREAKING DAWN SPOILER.
I think part of the Twilight craze is that the series DOESN’T make much sense. Maybe fans would like to believe that love is something nonsensical that has nothing to do with the mind, but rather follows the heart.
Although I do agree about the name. Reneesme? Seriously?
151, 152- YES.
In my opinion, Twilight was okay, New Moon was… bad, Eclipse was pretty much a repeat of Twilight, and Breaking Dawn sounds freaky. Just my opinion.
BREAKING DAWN SPOILER.
153 РTouch̬.
My parents won’t let me read Breaking Dawn til at LEAST seventh grade, so I’ve got some waiting to do. *sigh*
156 – My mom said that about The Da Vinci Code (you can’t read it until you’re twelve!) but I did it anyway. Now, she lets me read whatever I want.
157- My mom would’nnt be swayed from her desicion, though. I know just have to find where she hid the book, and secretly read it in secret.
158 – I read it behind her back.
Oh well, can you read stuff at the library? Or do you go with your mom there too? I only get to read stuff like that at the library, if I have a break from volunteering.
144- Yes, it was confusing, but Artemis’s plans are always confusing.
158-Secretly read in secret?
156-I don’t ask my mom permission about books. I sometimes ask if she recommends for me to read stuff with “grownup” titles, like “Tales of First Love”. I started reading it, then got mad at the main character for frying her birthday present(goldfish).
But she forbade me to read the 4th and 5th books of HP at one point.
161 – I generally don’t ask her permission either, but I’ve taken to reading more adult books (Dan Brown, Michael Crichton) so I have to ask her if it’s not too adult. (She’s read most of Jeffrey Archer, Michael Crichton… their books, so she can tell me if they’re okay or not for my age (12).)
161- NO! *gasp*
My sister (Gwynevere101) is making sure I don’t read it. And I haven’t found the book yet.
Has anyone read “To Kill a Mockingbird” by Harper Lee? I’d like to read it but my Mom isn’t sure if it’s appropreate for a 12 year old. Any opinions?
(GAPAs too.)
164–It’s not too bad; all of the “bad” stuff in it has to do with the prejudices of the time. You just need to be mature about it (which I’m sure you can be). I really liked it, it’s a good read.
165-Thanks.
Boy, No one’s been on here for a while. Well, there aren’t any really popular books that have come out recently. So I guess that’s why.
OMG SPOILER HOUSE SEASON PREMIER SPOILER.
I am BURSTING to say this.
WTF???? Wilson??? Soooooo sad! I loved Wilson! And… and… he was House’s ONLY FRIEND! He left???
164- I have read it, once when I was younger, and again last year. I’m 16 now. I think you should be fine. It does have it’s sad parts, but it is a beautiful book.
167- O.M.G.
167- I know. Why WILSON?!!!! It’s hard to imagine House with any friends. But WHY WILSON?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
164: i read it a long time ago–was probably 12, if not younger. I don’t think there was anything particularly age inappropriate, although i can’t say I particularly enjoyed it. but that was probably being due to my being too young to understand it entirely.
Syllabub (164):
I read To Kill a Mockingbird a few decades ago. It was an excellent book. Beautifully written. Sad in parts, as Vendaval noted. I don’t remember it clearly enough to assess its appropriateness for a 12 year old, though. Even if I did remember it well, I think it would be hard to know how to determine that.
So I’ll just say, I recommend reading it at some point or other!
164- I think it’s fine. you’re mom’s probably worried because it deals with rape. It’s not inapropriet for a 12 year old, I believe, if you read at your level or above. *just my opinion*
164- Like Kagy said, it’s fine, in my opinion. I’ve read it at almost eleven… (recent) rape is a fact of life, and there are people out there who practice it.
SPOILER HOUSE SPOILER.
169 – “I’m not sure we’re friends anymore, House. I’m not sure we ever were.” SAD!
INKDEATH SPOILERS. INKDEATH SPOILERS. INKDEATH SPOILERS.
EEEYAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever encountered a literary villain who was such a complete ******* that you wanted to reach through the pages and strangle him with your bare hands? Orpheus was one of those for me, and I read the last five chapters of the book in eager anticipation of his agonizing and well-deserved death.
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HE LIVES!!!!!!!!
That caking ph’miz of a euph, I’ll wung-button him!!! CORNELIA, HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US????!!! *throttles book in attempt to reach him* *screams in agony*
172-Yeah, I do read above my level (not trying to brag) so cool.
Thank you all for your answers!! I’ll tell my mom.
176- I CAN’T read above my level. I’m college level. That means I have to read BELOW my level to read the books I WANT to read.
Say, did anyone else get those CTY Talent search things, besides me?
SPOILER WARRIORS TWILIGHT AND SUNSET SPOILER.
I don’t think Cinderpelt should have been reincarnated. She’s my favorite character, and it was sad when she died, but having her reincarnated just seemed…wrong somehow.
Other things in Warriors that seem wrong somehow:
-According to a transcript of a chat with Erin Hunter that I read, Firestar and Scourge are half-brothers.
-SkyClan existing.
-Hollypaw, Lionpaw, and Jaypaw “holding the power of the stars in their paws”.
SPOILER WARRIORS TWILIGHT AND SUNSET SPOILER.
178- Reincar… Now I remember why I liked the first series best. They were plenty good before she brought all this mysticism into it!!
177 – Same. And I did get the CTY thing, I think. I’ve been getting a bunch of letters from various… things… ’cause of my SAT and ACT scores. And ’cause I went to CTD. (I got 1100 on the SAT and 27 on the ACT.
)
180- Sweet! I myself have not skipped a grade, and none of my friends, including Leafy, got it. I don’t understand why.
181 – Not many people have skipped a grade.
It’s quite uncommon, let alone two grades. You know, I’ve gotten letters from colleges because of my scores. Jeez, people! You couldn’t find someone better than a 12-year-old?!?!?!
Anyway.
SPOILER LATEST EPISODE OF HOUSE SPOILER.
OMG! House and Wilson are friends! How sweet!
177–I’m pretty sure I got some of those, from when I took the SAT in 7th/8th grade, and I know my sis did, cuz she went to one when she was 11 (based on her scores from when she did the SAT in 7th/8th grade). That is, I think I got them…..I don’t remember–that is such a long time ago!
180–cool! Those are some pretty good scores, especially as you’re 12, right? I think I got 1160 or thereabouts when I was in 8th grade. I vastly improved when I took them for real in highschool–I got 1440 on the math/critical reading, and 670 (I think) on the writing portion. ACT I never took in middle school, just highschool, when I got a…32, I believe. Cuz my sis and dad both got 33. *sniff* I console myself with the fact that I got a 36 on the crit. reading section (better than either of them).
182- Hey, Bagel, the first clarinetist skipped one. May I ask what you’re going to do with your life?
I’ve just found out what I’m going to do with my life- I’ll work at Klutz!
SPOILER GREEN ANGEL BOOK SPOILER.
Really depressing. Green reminds me of myself in the worst ways. Really non-cliche. Just about everyone dies. o.O
This thread is dead, but I just have to rant for a while. Sorry.
I frigging HATE scene stuff. Why does a bunch of people who only wear the “scene” style to be cool and “different” (yeah right) have to come in and wreck ALL of culture! I’m getting so sick and tired of hearing about how awesome the Mutant Ninja Turtles, Hello Kitty, Power Rangers, and other typically “scene” stuff that LITTLE KIDS like are. How is Power Rangers scene at all? I dunno, but they are now. Why would you watch Power Rangers anymore? Because it’s popular? How lame is that?
And the MUSIC. Really, how is that even music? Some of it can be catchy, but there’s no use wrecking the whole Techno scene with a useless, breathy, “colorful” singer and his little software that makes techno beats, talking about scenie stuff. I don’t want to hear about dinosours. I don’t want to see another band with an exclamation point at the end. Nickasour! Really? And there’s billions of them, and people like them because they’re “undergound” and because they’re “original” like we haven’t heard everything before on MySpace. There’s billions of scene crap on MySpace, I don’t need to add every single frigging band just to look like I have lots of friends.
The clothes. Okay, so sometimes I want to go all neon and bright too, but that dosn’t mean I have to look like a clown to acheive that look. There is a scene style which I find fine, but it’s destroyed now. Subcultures are supposed to be DIY, and now you can buy a subculture off a shelf at Hot Topic. And people still think they’re “original” and “different” and “nonconformist”, yeah right! Just because you have hair like a bird’s nest, extentions, and skinny jeans dosn’t mean you’re nonconformist, it means you look stupid. Who cares how many bands you know? Who cares how “underground” they are?
The culture itself. TWILIGHT. Since when does Twilight have anything to do with a culture? WHY should this peice of crap be incorperated into a style? Mushmushmush ramblerambleramble. And just because you’re in Hot Topic dosn’t mean you’re “scene”. Jeffree Star music on you’re iPod dosn’t make you automatically colorful and neon and scene. NOBODY’S scene, really, it’s just a style which used to be cool and now’s a clown fad.
AHONDAOKMDOKJAMODKMO!
Sorry. Done. Bye.
Spoiler- 1984, George Orwell.
So I was rereading it and I got so mad at the ending again. Like, “I betrayed you.” “I betrayed you.” “Well, darn.” That’s not the [i] exact [/i] dialogue, but you get the point. And how he was all haggard and the room…aargh.
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I don’t know how to do italics.
Let me see..
this should be in italics
but this shouldn’t.
More ranting. Wow, I must have a lot of built up stress.
Sidebar advertizements. I HATE them. Hatehatehate.
I don’t care if I can’t beat Britney Spears/George Bush/Snoop Dogg/Whoever Else’s IQ. I don’t want to meet five hundred people from the college I haven’t gone to yet. I really don’t need to beat the red-haired guy at push-ups by pushing a button, or driving a car faster, or shooting birds. I don’t want to improve the credit score I didn’t know I had, I don’t want to find out how to be a plumber/teacher/social worker, whatever. I’m not voting for Obama in January. I’m not supporting John McCain either. I don’t CARE if Ben Franklin was left handed! I don’t NEED another five hundred girlfriends, all lifting up their shirts! I don’t WANT a tan! I can’t really tell if that’s Will Smith’s baby picture. I don’t need to see another violet movie, or the trailer, for that matter. Edward Cullen is NOT my crush. I am NOT emo, I KNOW I’m bisexual, I don’t want to meet emo girls, I don’t want to meet bisexual girls, I don’t need anymore emo clothing, I don’t need more bisexual clothing (what?), screw weight loss; I’m under one hundred thank you very much, I don’t even WATCH House, oh my GOD!
AND. I. DON’T. NEED. YOUR. VACCUM. CLEANER.
I can’t wait till I get telemarketer calls.
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With telemarketer calls, you can at least torture them by speaking a foreign language, and when they try again, speak a different language.
Umm… What’s the point in replying to several month-old comments?
188- A-cakin’-men.
188-What POSOC said.
I HATE SCHOOL. *rantrantrant*
First of all, there’s these twins who have tormented me for two years (I’m in a special class), although they’re a grade lower then me! I’ve told the teacher, but they’re teacher’s pets, so she doesn’t care. And my best friend has to be their friend too, so she hates them, but…
*faints*
Oh my god.
RANTING AND VENTING ABOUT TITUS GROAN FOLLOWS. BEWARE.
Steerpike is the most horrible, horrible character! All of them are unpleasant, but he’s the worst, and it’s awful to see Fuschia falling under his spell. And Lord Sepulchrave, who was always sad and distant, is positively mad, and the twins are gullible and stupid–they always were, but Steerpike’s been using them and they don’t realize…
And I mean all the characters are dreadful, but I’m interested in their welfare, because they aren’t completely bad, except for Steerpike, who’s just bringing the whole world down about their ears. And he’s so cold and calculating, I can’t think but he’ll kill them all or drive them mad and establish himself as Lord of Gormenghast somehow and then no one will live happily ever after EVER, except for Steerpike, who pulls the legs off stag beetles and lights people’s libraries on fire.
Yes, the library burning was horrific, wasn’t it?
192- Rather.
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Wahhh! *weep* L died! *weep* I just read it. I’m so sad now…. (T_T) So saaad… And I feel kinda sorry for Mello. He’s always second best, just trying to beat Near just once. (T_T)
EOIN COLFER SHOULD NOT WRITE THE NEXT HG2G.
DISNEY CHANNEL HAS OFFICIALLY RUINED MUSIC.
PIERCE BROSNAN SHOULD NOT PLAY CHIRON IN PERCY JACKSON.
THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END.
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Zinc, I lengthened the spoiler — will that do?
Yes, thank you, Lady B!
Sorry! I didn’t know about this thread.
***********SPOILER FOR NOTE AND THE OUTSIDERS, NEAR THE END OF EACH, BUT IF ANYONE ACTUALLY CARES, SO: SPOILERSPOILER SPOILERSPOILERS THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF SPOILERS IN THIS POST FOR THE OUTSIDERS AND NOTE, IT REALLY IS CRAZY HOW STRANGE I AM, SPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILERSPOILER SPOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIILEEEER!!!!!!!!!!!************
*hoping that’s long enough*
All righty. I noticed this today when I read ahead in The Outsiders in class. Dally is killed by being shot down by police. So is Matt (but by Takada’s [DIE] bodyguards). And the guy who plays Dally in the movie’s name is Matt Dillon. Isn’t that cool?! And Johnny is killed by the fire in the church, immediately reminding me of Mello! When, technically, Takada killed him and then light set the church on fire her, but it’s still a fire in a church.
SPOILER PERCY JACKSON SSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR PERCY JACKSON SPOILER SPOILER.
Okay, where is Ares? And working for Kronos? Besides, what about Dionysus and Clarisse? They’re not major characters, but I like them. And, the Parthenon scene- WTC? Couldn’t they have put in Procrustes or Echidna instead of making that up? Where did the pearl thing come from, and why did they sneak off at night? WHY DID THEY DO THIS??
*calms down* Yeah, it was a good movie, but rrrggghh!
My thoughts exactly. That’s what I was thinking the whole time; “Where’s Clarisse? And the exploding toilets? What happened????”
PERCY JACKSON SPOILER PERCY JACKSON SPOILER PERCY JACKSON SPOILER PERCY JACKSON SPOILER PERCY JACKSON SPOILER PERCY JACKSON SPOILER.
I HATEDHATEDHATED how Camp Half Blood was done. It was downright awful. All of the fun stuff was taken out – like the rock climbing wall and the pegasi stable. I was really looking forward to seeing how they would put together the different cabins at least – but that part wasn’t in it, either. (And the gods/goddesses on Olympus weren’t specified – you couldn’t tell just by looking at them which god or goddess they represented, which I thought was sort of disappointing.) Even now, I’m still coming up with things that were left out. Some things that were left out were understandable yet still annoying, but I can understand it – but many of the things were completely unexcused.
But what I said before (And what many other people said too) still stands. As a film based on a book? Downright horrible. But as a film on it’s own, I thought it was decent. Just frustrating in many ways.
I know the feeling. I feel the same way – but the pearls are mentioned in the book, they just don’t play as big a part as they do in the film. (I hope that wasn’t a spoiler.)
And they aren’t gotten in that way.
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Aaaaargh! Annabeth had no invisibility cap! There was no oracle! Riptide was a clicky pen! No Clarisse! No Kronos! No Helm of Darkness! AAAAAAAH!
Okay… *pants* I will speak in complete sentences now.
1. The fact that Luke hates the gods just can’t be the driving force for something like five years’ worth of warfare and disagreement and whatnot. They obviously aren’t going to try to make the rest of the books into movies, besides, the implication was that Luke died at the end of the movie, Percy heaved him off a skyscraper with a trident in his neck.
2. I think they tried to make it into a boy movie. Annabeth got totally downsized, and there was no mention of Thalia at all.
3. “The Lotus Eaters?” What a load of junk that idea with the flowers was. You can convince people anything is mythology these days if it’s got a weird enough name. Sheesh.
I’ll come up with more stuff to rant about eventually. I will most definitely be back.
Well, I don’t remember what the Lotus Eaters actually did, but they are genuinely mythical. They’re in The Odyssey.
I had a dream about the lotus eaters. I was actually in the hotel. *goes to the dream thread*
3. The Lotus Eaters are actually closer to the real mythology than the book.
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Excuse me, Luke getting thrown into the water means nothing… It’s called a plot twist. They do plan on making the sequels. A boy movie? Hell no. All of the characters were downsized (It’s a movie!). I agree with you about not introducing the tree (Thalia) and Clarisse, but they can always introduce Thalia in the next movie (she isn’t really important in the first book).
I don’t mind putting The Lotus Eaters in… The basic principle is there.
I agree that some ofthe story was completely changed, like Percy being on an official quest and the plot that goes along with that, but the plot worked. Obviously they needed to keep the movie shorter, and they managed to keep the main ideas. I thought that Annabeth and Grover were great characters in the movie.
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I think that’s enough. Anyway…
Camp Half-Blood did NOT have that many people. Or that many trees. And it did have cabins. And Percy’s own personal thing, built by Poseidon himself? Preposterous. That and then Percy just turns up, and they know who his father is immediately. And then they go talk to Luke. And what does he do? Sure, he plants the Lightning Bolt on him, and tries to lure him to his death.
But then he gives them a pair of shoes. A nifty pair that’ll haul Percy into Tartus when they’re in the Underworld, right?
Wrong. Luke gives them a pair of shoes that does them nothing but good. And ultimately helps them defeat him, IN A WAY WHICH LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE HE WAS KILLED. Come on, I mean seriously? What on Earth is the point? He was just trying to help? Sure. And what’s with the huge flying battle at the end? Really? Must you?
And what’s with Annabeth being this freaky serious ‘you will die’ person?
And the Parthenon. What on Earth was that doing? Replacing the St. Louis Arch and Procrustes, and the water park, and a thousand other little scenes I would have loved.
And they can’t do a second without it seeming horribly, terribly, contrived. Which means no Nico, no Tyson, no Rachel Elizabeth Dare. No giant junk monster. No Whats-His-Name which I can’t remember who was the son of Nemesis. Like Jason or something. That’s not right. Whatever. Him.
And what’s with the Hydra breathing fire? Seriously? That was the Chimera. Hydra’s just poisonous.
And where did the Big Three pact go? And why didn’t Zeus and Poseidon have like three thousand children apiece? And where did the ‘Gods can’t see their children’ rule come from?
And Poseidon was too cool. Where did his Bermuda Shorts and Hawaiian shirt go?
That was completely random, disconnected, and making little sense. The rant, I mean, not the movie. Actually, it fits both. *grumble grumble grumble*
And another thing. PERSEPHONE WAS FOUR BOOKS EARLY! FOUR BOOKS!
Sorry, but Persephone has always been one of my favorite of the Greek Gods, and I could deal with the book’s interpretation of her, but the movie… *shudder*
Okay, I’m done now.
Then again, many of the critics who saw the movie didn’t even know that it was based on a book. So they just dismissed it as a Harry Potter knockoff.
I have gotten so many hits from my “Yahoo Alerts” thing for HP with article titles (or first sentences) blathering on about Harry Potter mimic, and how somebody needs to cast an anti mimicing spell. Or something. I’ve not actually read the articles, i skip over ’em just like all the ones that are talking about the very non-hot star of the very crappy twilight series.
Yeah. The review we read actually appeared to have read the book, though.
Although I haven’t seen the movie yet (going to this afternoon), I think many of the things people have mentioned (excluding Ares, excluding Kronos, excluding Thalia) is because they were worried that reaction to following movies would be similar to the pre-release reaction for this one, so they wanted to just make one movie. Just a theory that makes some sense.
And for the record, I am pleasantly surprised with how mild the reaction is on MuseBlog. There are some people elsewhere on the web who pretty much spaz out over such little things as the Camp Half-Blood T-shirts.
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Waitaminute, it’s June 21st and Persephone is in the Underworld? Logically, shouldn’t the earth be kinda still in winter instead of THE SUMMER SOLSTICE? Greek!! Mythology!! Cannot!! Be!! Ripped up and torn into weird-shaped pieces!! For!! The!! Plot!!
Also, where was Kronos? I mean, I can understand taking out Clarisse, and Thalia’s disappearance was… whatever, I dislike it but whatever, but how do you deal with not including the main villain in the first movie?
Also also, I thought the movie was an example of some of the most obvious storytelling I’ve seen in a while. In Aunty Em’s Garden Emporium, Grover’s standing around and spots his Uncle Ferdinand as a statue. He makes some comment like “Hey, that looks just like my Uncle Ferdinand! Except he was killed by a…” Ominous look. At this point, I’m pretty happy. It’s one of those moments where you’re like It’s a Medusa it’s a Medusa I love this bit this was so great in the book and I totally know what’s happening and everybody else is like Hey, wasn’t there some kind of monster that turned stuff to stone in Greek myths? Like, chimera? No, it was the… snaky lady! Right! Snaky lady! Medusa or something! At this point, Grover goes, ominously, “Medusa!” Boom. Ominous suspenseful the-audience-actually-has-a-brain-you-know moment dead.
Also also also, Luke should have been much better-looking. Just throwing that out there.
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204- I know! And they can’t even just pretend that in this world she stays all the time, because she said, ‘I live for my time out of here.’ Which she’s right in the middle of, right? Oh wait. Never mind.
203- You should have seen me right after I first watched it. Honestly. We spent the rest of the afternoon talking about how terrible it was, with brief breaks while my cousin and her boyfriend talked about how hot one or another of the actors/actresses is.
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201.4 ~ (Fishy) I agree with you.
I actually thought that Grover was done very well, Percy was pretty good, and Annabeth and Luke were so-so. (Based on the book.) As a movie on it’s own, all of the characters were decent.
I don’t think that it was a “boy movie” at all. Sure, many of the main characters are male, but that’s the way it’s done in the book too!
Thalia isn’t a prominent character in the series until the very end of the second book and the third and later shows up in the fifth book. I was disappointed that her pine tree didn’t show up at all, but that’s a pretty minor detail compared to the other gaping things they missed out on. In my eyes as a very hard core fan, I think it’s acceptable that she wasn’t mentioned, taking into consideration the other parts of the film that were unlike the book.
As for Clarisse, sure, she’s disappointing, (And I’m as upset as anyone about it) but I have a feeling they might show her later if they do more films (Which I think is very likely), especially once they get to the fifth film, assuming they do decide to make a fifth film.
The Lotus Casino was, as someone said, more mythologically accurate than the book, and also was entertaining to watch, which is why it’s a movie – for entertainment.
202 (Errata) ~ Ugh, CHB. I agree. Especially about his cabin already being there and set up for him.
All sad, and upsetting, but also frustrating.
I agree with most of the other points you made.
204 ~ (Cat’s Eye) Luke was ugly. Very ugly. His character in the book is HOT people! And there was NO relationship development between Annabeth and Luke, no subtle clues of their past. Hello? Isn’t that a major relationship in the series? All it what have taken was a couple more lines, nothing completely changing.
205 ~ (Errata) But Logan Lerman IS hot!
A couple more thoughts:
I feel like so much of the time they were so focused on making sure that the film wasn’t like Harry Potter, their plan actually backfired and made it seem MORE like HP! For example, the quest and the monsters sort of had a HP-feel to them, whereas if they had stuck closer to the book they probably would have been less like HP.
Also, what-the-cake with how the gods can’t have physical contact with their kids? Wasn’t it the Big Three pact in the book, which is also a major part of the series that was completely ignored here? Hel-lo!
If they keep these actors, by the time the last book has come out, they will all be in their late 20s/early 30s. NO way! I will cry if that happens.
Eh, my cousin was actually more obsessing over whoever played Luke, and I’m assuming that wasn’t Logan Lerman, because of other things in your post. I don’t know who any of the actors were, except for Zeus. And that’s only because his actor happened to act in a different movie, and I learned his name there.
Logan Lerman played Percy, and Jake Abel played Luke. (Just so you know.)
Personally, I thought Luke was pretty darn hot. I suppose different people have different tastes, because I didn’t think Percy was really that good looking.
I personally liked the movie a lot, but I agree that some things were very annoying. One thing that I thought was done perfectly was Smelly Gabe. Great actor ( his last name is even similar to Ugliano!), he was irritating and bratty, and quite perfect. His purpose in the story was also well explained, and almost exactly like the books.
Oh yes, Gabe was done pretty well.
Luke….eh, everyone’s got different tastes. And I was being just a little bit sarcastic about Percy, but I thought he was better-looking than Luke was.
But oh well.
Oh! I might be able to go out and see it again today. I’m not exactly sure why I want to see it again, after it being not-so-great and murdering the book page-by-page, but I do. Hmm.
I’m pretty sure this thread is only in “Recently Popular” because of spambots, but I never knew it existed and expect to make good use of it in the future.