Space Science and Math, Including Space
The final frontier — and a darned big one, too. Requested by Beatlesrockr.
Date: May 17, 2008
Categories: The Universe
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POSOC & Mim
in May 17th, 2008 @ 14:39Phoenix Mars Lander. Discuss.
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MissSwann
in May 17th, 2008 @ 14:40First post?
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MissSwann
in May 17th, 2008 @ 14:41Or not… Space bugs me. It makes me feel insignificant.
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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)
in May 17th, 2008 @ 14:46(3) I often find that comforting myself.
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Piggy
in May 17th, 2008 @ 14:58The universe: can it exist?
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Purple Panda
in May 17th, 2008 @ 15:04How fitting! I’ve just been re-watching the Star Wars series. We just got a new Star Trek DVD, too, and we’re going to start that this summer. Of course, we can always talk about the real space, but fiction is fun
I’m excited about the Phoenix Mars Lander, though. It’s scheduled to land next week, isn’t it?
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Nthanda the Laugher
in May 17th, 2008 @ 15:245–I hope so. Otherwise we’re all just hallucinating. Or maybe I’m imagining all of you.
Do you want to sing to my cat?3–Space doesn’t so much make me feel insignificant as it makes me feel…correct. Like it’s all right if I mess up, the universe will still be there. It’s a constant view of perfection.
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NerdAndProudOf It...and happy.
in May 17th, 2008 @ 15:25Phoenix Mars Lander? Phoenix Mars Lander? I feel ignorant…could someone fill me in?
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KaiYves
in May 17th, 2008 @ 15:558- It launched from The Cape on August 4rd, 2007 and it’s been traveling towards Mars ever since. On May 25, it will touchdown near the North Pole of Mars and investigate the ice caps.
This is important because:
1) Life on Earth needs water, and we know there’s water there, even if it’s frozen, it’s still worth a look.
2) The presence of water would make this a good site for a future base.
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NerdAndProudOf It...and happy.
in May 17th, 2008 @ 16:199-thanks. It sounds cool.
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Kokonilly and Nilly and Romulus
in May 17th, 2008 @ 17:539 – Cool.
I wish Star Wars was somewhat realistic. Wait. It IS real. What am I talking about? *slaps self*
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 17th, 2008 @ 20:45I love the idea of infinity. Its daunting, but its also so beautiful. Something with no end. Time infinity is downright disturbing, but space infinity…
Anyway, who prefers inflationist theory and who likes Classical Big Bang, not that they contradict eachother too much, if you ask me!
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 17th, 2008 @ 20:45I love the idea of infinity. Its daunting, but its also so beautiful. Something with no end. Time infinity is downright disturbing, but space infinity…
Anyway, who prefers inflationist theory and who likes Classical Big Bang, not that they contradict eachother too much, if you ask me!
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Karinnn Tayyy
in May 17th, 2008 @ 21:13I like the idea of the universe being so big. It seems protective, like being a little kid hiding under the stairs or something.
I love looking at the stars.
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Kokonilly and Nilly and Romulus
in May 17th, 2008 @ 21:32Oh… Infinity… Big..
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oxlin
in May 17th, 2008 @ 23:12Orion is my favorite.
I love stargazing.
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MissSwann
in May 18th, 2008 @ 11:074- Comforting? It makes me feel… stupid, I guess.
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Beatlesrockr(8piepoints)&Hiejayko
in May 18th, 2008 @ 12:08Thankyou so much GAPAs! I don’t know why still but, poor pluto
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Beatlesrockr(8piepoints)&Hiejayko
in May 18th, 2008 @ 12:23Sorry for the double post
1- here is an article about that, from the NASA website
WASHINGTON — NASA’s Phoenix Mars Lander is preparing to end its long journey and begin a three-month mission to taste and sniff fistfuls of Martian soil and buried ice. The lander is scheduled to touch down on the Red Planet May 25.Phoenix will enter the top of the Martian atmosphere at almost 13,000 mph. In seven minutes, the spacecraft must complete a challenging sequence of events to slow to about 5 mph before its three legs reach the ground. Confirmation of the landing could come as early as 7:53 p.m. EDT.
“This is not a trip to grandma’s house. Putting a spacecraft safely on Mars is hard and risky,” said Ed Weiler, associate administrator for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate at NASA Headquarters in Washington. “Internationally, fewer than half the attempts have succeeded.”
Rocks large enough to spoil the landing or prevent opening of the solar panels present the biggest known risk. However, images from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, detailed enough to show individual rocks smaller than the lander, have helped lessen that risk.
“We have blanketed nearly the entire landing area with HiRISE images,” said Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, chairman of the Phoenix landing-site working group. “This is one of the least rocky areas on all of Mars and we are confident that rocks will not detrimentally impact the ability of Phoenix to land safely.”
Phoenix uses hardware from a spacecraft built for a 2001 launch that was canceled in response to the loss of a similar Mars spacecraft during a 1999 landing attempt. Researchers who proposed the Phoenix mission in 2002 saw the unused spacecraft as a resource for pursuing a new science opportunity.
Earlier in 2002, NASA’s Mars Odyssey orbiter discovered that plentiful water ice lies just beneath the surface throughout much of high-latitude Mars. NASA chose the Phoenix proposal over 24 other proposals to become the first endeavor in the Mars Scout program of competitively selected missions. “Phoenix will land farther north on Mars than any previous mission,” said Phoenix Project Manager Barry Goldstein of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
“The Phoenix mission not only studies the northern permafrost region, but takes the next step in Mars exploration by determining whether this region, which may encompass as much as 25 percent of the Martian surface, is habitable,” said Peter Smith, Phoenix principal investigator at the University of Arizona, Tucson.
The solar-powered robotic lander will manipulate a 7.7-foot arm to scoop up samples of underground ice and soil lying above the ice. Onboard laboratory instruments will analyze the samples. Cameras and a Canadian-supplied weather station will supply other information about the site’s environment.
One research goal is to assess whether conditions at the site ever have been favorable for microbial life. The composition and texture of soil above the ice could give clues to whether the ice ever melts in response to long-term climate cycles. Another important question is whether the scooped-up samples contain carbon-based chemicals that are potential building blocks and food for life.
The Phoenix mission is led by Smith with project management at JPL. The development partnership is with Lockheed Martin, Denver. International contributions are from the Canadian Space Agency; the University of Neuchatel, Switzerland; the universities of Copenhagen and Aarhus, Denmark; the Max Planck Institute, Germany; and the Finnish Meteorological Institute.
Awesome isn’t it? I went to the Kennedy Space Center and the guide talked all about it.
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KaiYves
in May 18th, 2008 @ 12:42“Teaser trailer” for the Phoenix mission can be seen here (Spaces must be removed)
http:// http://www.badastronomy. com/ bablog/2007 /08/04/ phoenix-rises-from-the- ashes/
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Piggy
in May 18th, 2008 @ 13:23I believe, as do many scientists, that the universe has no boundaries but is not infinite. You can never get to the “edge,” because there is none, but it is limited. Think of it like a sphere. It has no edges, but is limited.
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KaiYves
in May 18th, 2008 @ 13:26Oh, and Space Shuttle Discovery takes off on the 31th.
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The Bookworm & Lurline
in May 18th, 2008 @ 14:0313-Inflationist, I think. Infinity freaks me out, and makes me feel so insignificant. 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Life is Purple, previously NAPOI.
in May 18th, 2008 @ 16:23Oh…space makes me feel dizzy just thinking about it.
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 18th, 2008 @ 18:34I like inflationist, because its the only theory that properly covers the big gaping hole in classical Big Bang: how could we have gotten something out of nothing?
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 18th, 2008 @ 18:35I like inflationist, because its the only theory that properly covers the big gaping hole in classical Big Bang: how could we have gotten something out of nothing? Quantum fluctuations and all that jazz…
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The Guy Your Parents Warned You About
in May 18th, 2008 @ 19:02I try to avoid any theories regarding the creation of the universe, but I agree with Piggy’s description of the current universe.
Of course, we cannot avoid the great question- Are we alone?
I say no, but that’s just my opinion. I believe Phoenix will find something; not any intelligent life, but life nonetheless.
Then again, we’ll find out soon, won’t we?
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Cat's Meow
in May 18th, 2008 @ 19:35Can someone explain what each of the theories are?
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Life is Purple, previously NAPOI.
in May 18th, 2008 @ 19:42inflationist? *feels terribly confused*
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in May 18th, 2008 @ 21:5427- I hope Phoenix will find life, but I doubt it’ll happen. Too cold, no breathable gases, and no water. I mean, there could be water, but we haven’t found any. Unless I’ve missed some great new discovery.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in May 18th, 2008 @ 23:26Life! Oh, what a great topic!
Mars? Mars is a great place in space…
To think of life on it…
I hope the Phoenix will find life!
Since the Cassini is near its mission’s end, maybe I could research the Phoenix!
*sniffle*
Titan…
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KaiYves
in May 19th, 2008 @ 10:0531- Titan’s cool. Didn’t they give Cassini a few more years, though? Finding microbial or bacterial life on Mars would be SO awesome!
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in May 19th, 2008 @ 10:3731- just RNA would be cool!
Is it Robert’s feild or Roseanne’s Feild? (Listen musecast 8 for more info)
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 19th, 2008 @ 10:51Well, I handle planets, but Rosanne handles life. Life on other planets is pretty much up in the air right now. If they discover any, I suppose Rosanne and I will pie each other for it.
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Otzi
in May 19th, 2008 @ 11:19‘If they discovery any’?
This would be a very good place for the galaxy song.
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KaiYves
in May 19th, 2008 @ 13:0035- Let me guess “Intelligent life on other planets?” “There’s none on this planet.”
Oldest joke ever, wasn’t even that funny to begin with.
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The Guy Your Parents Warned You About
in May 19th, 2008 @ 14:1830- Microscopic life doesn’t need that much to live, and it’s still life.
36- But there is none, you realize.
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Turquoise, who is extending her name pointlessly, is on a school computer
in May 19th, 2008 @ 14:30Planets….
I like Neptune.
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in May 19th, 2008 @ 14:3430, 37- Fine, but I still doubt it.
37- Come on! You have to give us humans some credit!
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KaiYves
in May 19th, 2008 @ 14:40My favorite planets are Mars and Saturn.
Oh, and can we get Discovery on the calendar, please?
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POSOC & Mim
in May 19th, 2008 @ 14:45I think the most likely candidate for life (probably microscopic) in the solar system is Europa.
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in May 19th, 2008 @ 16:2741- Europa’s very promising. They could have jellyfish under that ice, or even tube worms.
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Life is Purple, previously NAPOI.
in May 19th, 2008 @ 17:42I feel confuzzled. And whang-doodled.
I need to improve my vocabulary, don’t I.
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POSOC & Mim
in May 19th, 2008 @ 17:56KaiYves, what is the Constellation program? I gathered from your previous posts that it is to replace the space shuttle.
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KaiYves
in May 19th, 2008 @ 19:5744- The Constellation program is NASA’s next step. The Constellation vehicles will be able to dock to ISS and, when launched on the powerful Ares 5 rockets, reach the moon.
Timescale:
2010- Shuttle stops flying
2010-2014- Kai goes crazy from boredom
2014- First Constellation flights
2020- BACK TO THE MOON!
2035+- Mars
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Beatlesrockr(8piepoints)&Hiejayko
in May 19th, 2008 @ 20:31We all might be dead in 2036. Sorry to break it to you guys.
42- Yes I think Europa will prolly have life.The reason for the first statement:
Anybody who watches “The Universe” will know what I’m talking about. In 2029, Friday the 13th, a meteor named Apothos will pass so close to Earth that one will be able to see it with the naked eye.
Apothos has over a 99%chance of missing the Earth in 2029. But if Apothos passes the Earth at a distance of exactly 18,893 miles, it may pass through a gravitational key hole than Earth’s gravity will upset Apothos and it will return and hit Earth 7 years later. But luckily theres a very small chance of it hitting us. Hehe, but it’s still CREEPY!
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The Guy Your Parents Warned You About
in May 19th, 2008 @ 20:4139- Well all the idiots cancel out the smart people.
45- Come on, they have to do something for 4 years.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 19th, 2008 @ 20:44The Russians will still be sending people up in their Soyuz capsules, I assume. And, of course, satellites and robot probes will still be going into space on regular rockets.
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Kokonilly & Nilly & Romulus
in May 19th, 2008 @ 20:5046 – Before I noticed your atrocious grammar (“Prolly”?) I must ask why we might be dead in 2036. Stay positive!
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POSOC & Mim
in May 19th, 2008 @ 20:5546- I thought it was called Apophis.
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in May 19th, 2008 @ 21:0046 – We’re all going to die in 2012 anyways. (Sorry – I just had to mention it.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 19th, 2008 @ 21:05(46) “Prolly” isn’t bad grammar, just sloppy pronunciation. And considering the way languages evolve, I’d say it’s almost certainly the wave of the future.
(51) Oh, we are not.
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Cat's Meow
in May 19th, 2008 @ 21:0652 – We are too.
My social studies class literally spent our 90 minute class discussing end of the world theories once.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 19th, 2008 @ 21:10Hm, sounds as if you’d enjoy the article on end-of-the-world theories that I wrote for the December 1999 issue of Muse. It may be the best thing I’ve done for the magazine. I was a bit hard on Nostradamus, I’m afraid.
Hold on — I’ve just remembered that you can read it on the Fan Page, though without the lovely End of the World time line that the editors helped me prepare.
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in May 19th, 2008 @ 21:22no, it’s 2060 by newton.
Aren’t we a bunch of earthlubbers? (As in landlubbers in pirate talk.)
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Cat's Meow
in May 19th, 2008 @ 21:5054 – I know, I was thinking of that issue at the time. I didn’t know it was on the Internet, though, so I guess I’ll go read that.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in May 19th, 2008 @ 23:3946-Maybe Eurpa has life(hmmm, I will have to research that) But I still think Titan has microscopic life under its surface… I am a Crazy Titan Nerd afterall.
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KaiYves
in May 20th, 2008 @ 07:0346- Yes, that’s why the Planetary Society is conducting extensive research into asteroid deflection. On the off chance that Apophis does pass through that keyhole, here are some of the things we could do:
1) Drive it off course with a missile (NOT blow it up. Blowing it up would be really hard and the pieces would still be headed for us.)
2) Attach rockets to it, and fire them all at once, again to drive it off course
3) Darken one side of it with paint or something so that the uneven heating would- again- drive it off course.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 bonus points, which become wung points when Paker starts again, which I won from Piggy!)
in May 20th, 2008 @ 15:5558-I don’t want it to hit us! *Runs and Hides*
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 17:56Don’t worry. Us Americans will probably nuke it into oblivion, and the world will be saved by the friendly neighborhood overly pretentious capitalist superpower!
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in May 20th, 2008 @ 18:0958- that third one, intill I read the last part, was funny. “Darken one side with paint. Don’t know what this will do, but it will look nice.”
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It’s Hitting L.A.! *Notes to go to second house in 2046.*
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 18:46The other option, of course, is to let it hit us. All large life can die off and evolution can start again. When insects build museums they can include an exhibit on Muse.
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 19:0759- That’s the point I was trying to make. It won’t, because even if it does pass through the keyhole and become a potential danger, we will deflect it. And (60) the world will be saved by the friendly neighborhood spacefaring nations/alliances- US, Russia, Japan, China and the European Union.
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 19:2762- True, but we won’t be around to enjoy it.
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 19:43If the universe is a sphere, are we on the inside of it or the outside?
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 20:1764- yes, but think of all the happy little beetle larve.
65- I heard a theory that we were living on the surface of a 4D hypershere.
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in May 20th, 2008 @ 20:39Inside, I think… *Muses*
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 07:0765- Inside.
Fun fact: Until 1977, scientists thought that there could not be life in the deep oceans, where no sunlight penetrates. Then we found hydrothermal vents, places along the edges of tectonic plates where the Earth’s heat escapes into the water. There are many creatures that live in this environment, including Tube Worms and Vent Crabs. It is believed that similar environments might allow life to exist on Europa.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 21st, 2008 @ 07:31(65) Neither inside nor outside, as I understand it. If you draw a circle (say, the numeral zero) and pick one point on the loop, is that point on the inside or the outside? Neither: it’s on the circle. That’s where we would be, analogously, in a spherical universe, only with a couple more dimensions added. (That’s what Zyviva means by “the surface of a 4D hypersphere.”)
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Alice and Timon (and Monica)
in May 21st, 2008 @ 09:0569- But– how– what– I don’t understand…
*brain implodes*
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in May 21st, 2008 @ 11:16*calmly puts Alices brainback.*
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 21st, 2008 @ 11:30Oh, nonsense: unfamiliar ideas do not make Musers’ brains implode. I just haven’t explained it very well. No time for that just now, I’m afraid. Maybe somebody else will do it.
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 15:51It’s like living on the surface of Earth. You could think of it as flat, but it just goes in a circle. Also, if you went long enough, you would just go back to wherever you started.
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 16:20That’s partly true: a curved surface does seem flat if it’s big enough (or if you look at a small enough patch of it, which is another way of saying the same thing). Living in a curved universe, however, isn’t like standing on the surface of Earth. It’s more like being part of the skin of a balloon.
Geometrically, a perfect balloon skin has no thickness. It’s a two-dimensional surface (like a plane) that wraps around through three-dimensional space and connects to itself again. In theory, a two-dimensional “shadow creature” could live on that surface, unaware that the balloon has an outside and an inside — in fact, unable to imagine a direction that would make the words “inside” and “outside” meaningful.
In the same way, we are three-dimensional creatures living in three-dimensional space. But it’s possible that our 3D space wraps around through 4D space and rejoins itself — just as the 2D surface of a balloon does. We can’t imagine that kind of curvature, but we can describe it mathematically. That’s what math is good for: getting answers about things that your brain can’t imagine (multidimensional curves, unknown quantities, really big numbers, etc.).
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 21st, 2008 @ 16:2869-That reminds me oddly of a Mobus strip…
74-*begins to see the light* Beyond reminding me of Flatland, that made quite a lot of sense. Thanks!
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 17:50This is terribly confusing. I think I need to do alot of research.
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 18:2275- That was the hardest episode of Cosmos to understand, but it was still a great one!
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 18:26Flatland is awesome. I never finished it, but what I read was great.
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 18:2771- Thanks, TMFA. Now I can try to understand Robert’s new explanation.
And I do understand! So I wonder if we could pop out of the surface and into the interior of the balloon…or the exterior.
Hmm… *jots down notes*
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia's alter ego
in May 21st, 2008 @ 18:2977-Woot! Cosmos! The best ones were still the evolution sequence, natural selection, vespas and the red-shift, Sagan ranting about the danger of nuclear weapons, and everything else I forgot to mention, though!
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 18:3278-I loved it, too! Flatterland was abysmal, though. Scratch that. The math was interesting, but there was no plot intertwined, which made it a little less fun to read. On pain of repeating the MA blog conversation, I will now desist from saying more on the subject of Flatland sequelse. But still…
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 18:5680- The shot of the spider that fades out to the radio telescope is just brilliant camerawork.
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in May 21st, 2008 @ 22:4176- Martin Gardner has some interesting things to say about hyperspacial geometric figures. However, it will probably not deconfuse you in the beginging becuase he assumes that you can read terms like 9-space without scratching your head. (9-space is simply 9D space, a 9-cube would be a 9D cube, etc.) First deconfuse yourself as best you can and then read Martin Gardner.
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in May 22nd, 2008 @ 13:19Three days until Phoenix!
And nine until Space Shuttle Discovery takes off!
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Flatulus the God of Wind
in May 22nd, 2008 @ 19:48And only a couple more years until the Space Shuttle is decommisioned!
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Kokonilly & Nilly & Romulus
in May 22nd, 2008 @ 19:5878 – What? Flatland? Off to Google!
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in May 23rd, 2008 @ 07:1285- Yup, I wish I could see a launch in person.
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in May 23rd, 2008 @ 12:49Touchdown of Phoenix will be at 4:53 Pacific, 7:53 Eastern. Google “Time Zone Converter” if you live somewhere else.
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The Guy Your Parents Warned You About
in May 23rd, 2008 @ 14:2085- You’re right, I need to get to one of those launches… I live about two hours away from the Cape and I’ve only been there once. And I was too young to remember.
88- AM or PM?
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in May 23rd, 2008 @ 14:27I got into an argument with acatholic in our class about the origins of the universe and about the bounderies if space. It was fun, since I was constantly messing with his head. And the teacher said that the big bang is believed by some ‘sects.’ Comforting to have an ignorant religious teacher. X(
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in May 23rd, 2008 @ 14:4588- PM.
90- Does that make Orthodoxy a sect?
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 bonus points, which become wung points when Paker starts again, which I won from Piggy! And two B-Day Points!)
in May 23rd, 2008 @ 17:0390-Oh, so logic and science are sects, are they? …
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in May 23rd, 2008 @ 18:39This isn’t the religion thread, now.
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in May 23rd, 2008 @ 19:3388- 6:53 Museblog time. Is that today?
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in May 24th, 2008 @ 10:4394- The 25th.
It’s tomorrow! It’s tomorrow! It’s tomorrow! It’s tomorrow!
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 bonus points, which become wung points when Paker starts again, which I won from Piggy! And two B-Day Points!)
in May 24th, 2008 @ 11:4695-Three Important Events on one day! May 25!
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 07:4011 hours, 14 minutes to touchdown.
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 10:29YEAH! This is a big day in history. I’ll go to the NASA website right now……………….
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Life is Purple
in May 25th, 2008 @ 13:5796-Three? What three?
ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PHOENiX MARS LANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 17:36Just over an hour to touchdown. 7:47 PM Eastern is when the atmospheric entry begins. JPL staffers call it “Seven Minutes of Terror”.
NASA TV:
http: //www. nasa.gov/ multimedia/ nasatv/index.html?param= publicAwaiting news of the progress of a robot on a desert planet, I feel quite like Leia must have in Episode VI.
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:077:06 Eastern.
Go for entry, descent and landing.
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:31These next twenty minutes are the big ones.
No more time for posting.
Time only now for watching and praying.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:36I’m watching, too. The propulsion system has been pressurized. We’ll know soon whether the cruise stage separates correctly…
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:42Separation confirmed!
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:42One more quick one…
In entry mode.
Five minutes to entry.
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:49In the atmosphere, parachute opens in 3 minutes.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:49It’s in the atmosphere, and broadcasting!
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:53Parachute deployed, heat shield jettisoned, 1100 meters…
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:54TOUCHDOWN!
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Zinc the sorceress
in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:554:51-Gaaahhh!!! Couple more minutes!!!
4:54- YESSS!!!!! PHOENIX SUCCESSFUL!!!! WHOOHOO!!!!!*dances around whooping*
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:56Phoenix has landed! Welcome to Mars!
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 18:57All the blue-shirted people in the control room are hugging one another and punching the air. (And dashing for the bathrooms, I’ll bet.)
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:00So am I, but I’m in a black shirt with an image of a galaxy on the front.
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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:05Yay! I got here and got the link to work just in time.
(112) All the blue-and-grey visuals are strangely hypnotic.
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:08At 8:13 Eastern, we’ll know if the solar arrays have deployed.
At 8:43- 9:02, we can expect first data and maybe first pix.
Pleasure covering this landing with you, GAPA Coontz.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:09Likewise.
The first pictures will show the solar arrays. It could be a while before we get to see Mars.
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:12I got to the stream!
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:16Could be worse, Viking’s first pix were of its own footpads. Solar panels are cool.
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:18and lost it.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:20(118) Well, it’s important to know that they’re working.
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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:23You and me both, TMFA. My internet connection has chosen tonight to start having hiccoughs again.
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 19:26120-That it is. My, we’ve clogged up the Recent Comments…
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 20:57First pix! Showing solar panels, robotic hands, footpads, and the Martian horizon!
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in May 25th, 2008 @ 21:04ooh, ooh, where can I find the pictures Phoenix has taken? I’ve looked at the Nasa website…
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KaiYves
in May 25th, 2008 @ 21:11Delinkified link:
http: //www. nasa.gov/ mission_pages /phoenix/ main/
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in May 26th, 2008 @ 06:51Approximate color pix: nasa.gov/ mission_pages/phoenix/images/press/ false_ color_postcard_edr.html
You can really see how the terrain is different from where the rovers are!
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Beatlesrockr(8piepoints)&Hiejayko
in May 26th, 2008 @ 10:27124- On the NASA home page, right now it has the headlines “Phoenix on Mars, Sending Photos of Polar North” Then there is a picture below it. Click on the picture.
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KaiYves
in May 26th, 2008 @ 10:32Mars Rocks!
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KaiYves
in May 29th, 2008 @ 07:05Phoenix is unstowing its arm and getting ready to dig.
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 29th, 2008 @ 16:59129-I saw the clip. I must confess, it was pretty magical.
I hope this isn’t too out of place in this thread:
The best explanation of time as the 4th dimension that anyone ever gave me (and here I must confess that it came from the otherwise annoying Flatterland) was as follows, to “be”, an object must exist in certain dimensions. There are only a few, however, that we, with our limited scope of understanding, are able to recognize: first, it must have what we qualify as the first-dimension, a “line”, second, it must have a surface”, thirdly, it must have height (no matter how infimitessaly small), and lastly, it must exist in time (it must last for a period of time to exist at all).I thought this was so interesting and quite clear. I hope I have managed to synthesise it in atleast a fairly rational way.
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KaiYves
in May 30th, 2008 @ 07:00I think you did explain it quite well.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (12 wung points and two B-Day Points!)
in May 30th, 2008 @ 09:04130-I think I get it now! Thanks, Hypatia, (and Flatterland)!
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia
in May 31st, 2008 @ 10:11131/132-Thank you…
Flatland does a fairly good job of explaining how the first three work with exponents, but doesn’t touch on tine…
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 8 wung points)
in May 31st, 2008 @ 21:21Can this function as a general science/math thread so I can come running on to scream and cram the day before my 12 question science final, which I stand very little chance of doing well on as most of what we’ve learned this year has literally passed in one ear and out the other and may now be considered “gone with the wind”? Note the run-on.
You know what’s confuzzling? Quantum physics…
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The Bookworm & Lurline (12 wung points, 5 anti-wung points, and two B-Day Points!)
in June 1st, 2008 @ 08:58Yes it is! General math/science…
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KaiYves
in June 3rd, 2008 @ 06:57Sure, go ahead.
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Piggy
in June 3rd, 2008 @ 10:29I think the real question isn’t if there is other life in our solar system, but in the rest of our galaxy and in other galaxies. If you think about it, it is just about impossible for there not to be life somewhere other than Earth.
On a different note, I think the universe is more torus-shaped than spherical. Quantum physics back that up way more. Oh, and I loves quarks. They’re like wungs’ baby brothers.
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KaiYves
in June 3rd, 2008 @ 10:38Yes, there’s probably no intelligent life in our solar system, but there certainly must be in the rest of the galaxy.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (27 wung points, 5 anti-wung points, and two B-Day Points!)
in June 3rd, 2008 @ 16:25138-Not “must be”, but very, very probable…
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KaiYves
in June 4th, 2008 @ 07:10139- Right, that’s what I meant.
Closer to home, the Discovery astronauts have installed the Kibo lab on the Space Station and will enter it later today.
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in June 5th, 2008 @ 14:39138- There certainly isn’t any on Earth! *slaps knee and laughs deleriously, slowly quieting down and looking ashamed when no one else laughs*
140-Didn’t the toilet break on the ISS? I think I heard that somewhere.
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in June 5th, 2008 @ 15:15141- No offence intended, but that was only funny the first time. Which was in Muppets in Space. When I was five.
And yeah, it did. Discovery brought up some plumbing supplies and they fixed it.
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 5th, 2008 @ 20:18I know this is a space thread, but I desperately needed to post this somewhere, and well…space~science~math, in a vague and ambiguious sense?
Anyhoo,
There were quite a few good problems on our math final, and I wanted to post one here.If a weighted coin (3/4 chance of heads) is flipped 10 times, what is the probability of coming up with exactly eight heads?
5 provisional points to whomever comes up with the answer first!
I also ♥ locuses!
Most people probably know this, but I thought it was fairly insanely cool when I first learned it: the official definition of a parabola is: “a set of points equidistant from a line and a point”. To provide a little extra clarification. A parabola is defined by a point (not on the parabola) and a line (that does not intersect with the parabola). Every point on the parabola is the same distance from the point and the line (ie. Point A is 3 away from the line and 3 away from the point, whereas Point B is 4 away from both line and point)!
That was one of Hypatia’s odd (and frequent rants). Do not feel compelled to read it!
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Piggy
in June 6th, 2008 @ 10:04143- Unless my calculations are incorrect, the coin has a 60% chance of getting exactly 8 heads.
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Beatlesrockr(10piepoints)&Hiejayko
in June 6th, 2008 @ 14:33143- Provisional Points?
I hate Math so much. It’s so boring :(. I mean I like Math outside of school (I mean the fun kind of Math), but in school, our Math class is SO BORING!
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The Bookworm & Lurline (57 wung points, 5 anti-wung points, 10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 6th, 2008 @ 15:55.At my school, our math curriculum is fun. It’s just, it’s only fun if you’re actually learning! It’s WAY TOO EASY! I’m sure it would be fun if it was the “right level” for you. For me, though, it’s not. I’m so glad next year I can be in some sort of honorsy thing, (new school) that might be better suited to me!
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 6th, 2008 @ 18:40Math? But isn’t this a space thread?
*feels confused*
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KaiYves
in June 6th, 2008 @ 18:46147- It’s been expanded to include Math and General Science. But you can still talk about Titan.
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 6th, 2008 @ 21:49144-I’m not quite sure as I was far too lazy to compute the numerical answer, but, yet unsimplified, the asnwer is 3/4 to the 8th time 1/4 squared times 45…
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Beatlesrockr(10piepoints)&Hiejayko
in June 7th, 2008 @ 13:48Our math curriculum is SO EASY! We have this accelerated math thing. So people who pass this test can do 1 grade higher math. I’m in that, but it’s still easy. Then there is this Project Arrow thing which is two grades ahead, and that’s almost as easy as Accelerated Math. But math is so boring. The most boring subject no matter what. Even though math is very important to science. I love science. It’s always so interesting. Math is only fun when it’s in science. Otherwise, just plain old math is so boring.
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in June 7th, 2008 @ 17:25150- true.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (72 wung points, 5 anti-wung points, 10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 7th, 2008 @ 20:53But I like Plain Math…
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Ê‘yviva
in June 8th, 2008 @ 08:11152-I also like plain math.
Somehow I ended up slipping into a meditative state during my last math test.
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 10:05Hypatia is, at present, leafing through her notes on earthquakes and tsunamis and trying to find relevant information in the tumult (*coughdoodlescough*).
Report: Mission Failed.
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 10:12Thank goodness for good ol’ reliable Wikipedia, always there to lend one a hand!
*is compiling study sheet*
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 11:38Gar! Underwater subduction zone-generated earthquakes often cause tsunamis.
Why oh why? So much to learn, so little time!
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Piggy
in June 8th, 2008 @ 14:21So has anyone given the correct answer as of yet, Hypatia? I beg thee tell us!
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 14:38157-I put the closest I have to an answer in 149. If anyone is willing to whip out a calculator and simplify
… Anyway, I’m not 100% sure that I’m right. Maybe a mathly minded GAPA can sound in… You’re welcome to provisional points regardless…
!I have a lot of problems grapsing the concept of waves, because its basically impossible to project them onto 2-d space. When a fairly large portion of your science final is CENTERED on p and s waves, you know this to be a problem… *sighs*
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Piggy (10 Provisional points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 14:51Hmm… It comes to about 28.156757354736328125%. But I’ll still take the points.
Here’s some cool science simulations from the University of Colorado. There’s some wave ones in there.
phet.colorado.edu/new/simulations/index.php?cat=Top_Simulations
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 15:09159-You might well have been right too. However, intuitively, 60% feels like a little too much for so specific a qualification…
Thanks for accepting the points!I am DEFINITELY going to look at anything that will help me visualize waves! Thank you vury vury much!
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 17:36Ahhhhhhh! *runs screaming through thread* *doubles back* *repeats strange exercise* *continues making spectacle of self*
Half-life+convectioncells+epicenters+acceleration+velocity+
density= a very very large muddle, speedily taking shape (as in “no shape”) in Hypatia’s over fatigued brain.
Ah well!
Here’s another fairly fun math problem:*tries to think of way of expressing this problem without inserting square roots*. Okay so, assume everything is under one gienormous square root:
12+square root of 12 + square root of 12(now under original square root with everything and under square root of previous term and under own square root)+ square root of 12 (under square root over everything, square root from previous two terms, and own square root)…etc.
I’m awful at elucidating this sort of thing. Sorry if that makes no sense. I’ll try again later when the muddle has dissipated!
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The Bookworm & Lurline (72 wung points, 5 anti-wung points, 10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 19:171.00000015?
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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (worthy possessor of 43 wung points)
in June 8th, 2008 @ 19:37162-Naw, sorry. Its a whole number. Although I think the fault is mine, not yours. It goes on infinitely…
Not that I described “it” very well, even without how long it goes on…
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 8th, 2008 @ 19:44?????
*Feels hopelessly confused*
* has a headache*
Oh well…
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iŹ√Ҳ! proud master of 11 piepoints
in June 8th, 2008 @ 20:04I’m rather proud of myself at the moment. I just found a great website for HTML tricks:
[Sorry, iŹ√Ҳ!, but I zapped the external site… Rosanne]
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Piggy (10 Provisional points)
in June 9th, 2008 @ 12:35Here’s an easy one:
If a hen and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how many eggs can six hens lay in seven days?
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 10th, 2008 @ 18:10166- I’m not good at math…
Umnm… 30 eggs?
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The Man For Aeiou
in June 10th, 2008 @ 18:22166- 35.
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in June 10th, 2008 @ 23:25166- I mean, 28 eggs…
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Vixen in the Eyes of the Moon
in June 11th, 2008 @ 02:09i like electrons. They are both a particle and a wave, motionless and in motion at the same time, and can be in different places at once. *loves electrons*
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in June 11th, 2008 @ 07:08I like mitosis. Every new cell formed by it is usually the same as the one that divided to form it, so every one of your cells is as much you as that one-cell you were at first, inside of your mother! Isn’t that cool?
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in June 11th, 2008 @ 08:51171-have you heard the mitosis waltz?
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KaiYves
in June 11th, 2008 @ 09:22172-No.
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in June 11th, 2008 @ 14:33169- You got it. Have a cookie.
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Crazy Titan Nerd, who has a cookie
in June 11th, 2008 @ 14:40174- Thank you very much…
*bows*
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NerdAndProudOf It, who wants a cookie.
in June 11th, 2008 @ 14:57175-lucky.
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Crazy Titan Nerd, who had a cookie, but gave it to NAPOI, so doesn't have a cookie anymore
in June 11th, 2008 @ 15:03176- Aw. You want a cookie?
Here you go, you can have it…
Keep it!!!
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 11th, 2008 @ 16:57171-Yes, that is cool!
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Ê‘yviva
in June 11th, 2008 @ 17:29170- electrons deserve their own children’s book. they [are] share[d], they get excited….
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NerdAndProudOf It, who wants a cookie.
in June 11th, 2008 @ 19:08177-I’m not allowed to have cookies
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Life is Purple, who got a cookie from CTN, but gave it back to her because of braces
in June 11th, 2008 @ 19:23um…is it possible for someone to be kicked off of MuseBlog?
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in June 11th, 2008 @ 19:37181- yes*, why?
*Or at least banned.
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Life is Purple, who got a cookie from CTN, but gave it back to her because of braces
in June 11th, 2008 @ 19:55182-Why would that happen?
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in June 11th, 2008 @ 20:04ARGH YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING ME DIZZY!!! MAth…. math…. math… that word ruins my whole summer….. I’ll talk about science instead. So, anyone heard of the mega volcano that caused an ice age? No? It’s very interesting…
A Supersized Volcano
Beginning in 1949, when Dutch geologist Rein van Bemmelen discovered massive deposits of volcanic rock along the perimeter of Lake Toba on the Indonesian island of Sumatra, scientists knew they were onto something big. The thousand-square-mile area around the lake, it appeared, was a gargantuan caldera once filled not with water but with steaming volcanic ash and pumice. As volcanologists pieced together evidence of the cataclysmic event that took place there 74,000 years ago, as well as two earlier eruptions, Toba seemed so immense it was deemed a “supervolcano.”
Why Toba Matters
What can a volcanic eruption that occurred almost 75,000 years ago teach us about today’s world of air pollution, global warming, and climate change? Heaps, says Dr. Drew Shindell, a climatologist at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. For starters, knowing what the massive upheaval of Indonesia’s Toba supervolcano did to the planet’s climate (it might have cooled global temperatures enough to kill vegetation for years on end and perhaps hasten an ice age) offers sobering insight into what pumping billions of tons of chemicals into the atmosphere as we’re now doing could result in. In this interview, Shindell shares his thoughts on Toba’s impact then and now.
Isn’t that just awesome? There could be some hidden gargantuan volcano just waiting to erupt. And when the population of humans is highest it will explode, and kill us all. But that’s a big IF. A huge one. I hope.
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in June 11th, 2008 @ 20:04182- Flaming. Here’s the Stuff:
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in June 11th, 2008 @ 20:04182- Flaming. Here’s the Stuff:
15. SoulForged | March 19th, 2007 at 6:35 amcan we have a religions list anytime u can get 2 it, e~a? just wondering.
i’m Radical Atheist, as previously stated. unlike some people, *coughfridgeycoughcough* I don’t change my religion every thread.
16. FrigidSymphony | March 19th, 2007 at 6:41 am10: Mohammed was pagan, as was everyone in the middle east. A bunch of sects. And you can’t draw a picture of him because that just gives the muslim radicals an excuse to be violent.
17. FrigidSymphony | March 19th, 2007 at 7:05 am15: You’re an idiot. Asatru is a form of paganism.
18. ~~Red-tailed HAWK the swift~~ | March 19th, 2007 at 7:45 am17- NAME-CALLING ALREADY?!!!!! THAT IS WHY I NEVER WENT TO THE LAST THREAD, BUT I WAS HOPING THIS ONE COULD BE DIFFERENT! Maybe not. *sigh* *sobs*
19. FrigidSymphony | March 19th, 2007 at 8:01 am18: You’re an emotional wimp. Grow a backbone and contribute to the discussion.
20. Robert Coontz (Administrator) | March 19th, 2007 at 9:48 amSorry, FrigidSymphony. Insulting other MBers is crossing the line. You know better. I’m banning you from the blog for a week. Lurk as much as you like, but you won’t be able to post.
I don’t enjoy doing this, but things have been getting unMuserly and unMuselike around here, and it’s got to stop.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 11th, 2008 @ 20:29Oh wow! Did she ever return?
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Kokonilly [86 wung points, 80 piepoints, 10 spdzk points, 5 punxsutawney points]
in June 11th, 2008 @ 20:48SCIENCE AND MATH???? THE DAY BEFORE THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL??? *sob*
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in June 11th, 2008 @ 22:05187- He. He. And yes, He did. a Week and a day Later. And then he left a few months ago.
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Crazy Titan Nerd, who had a cookie, but gave it to NAPOI, but got it back, so now has one little cookie
in June 12th, 2008 @ 15:06What is happening here?!?!?
180- Thank you…
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in June 12th, 2008 @ 15:09This thread is starting to sound like the Random Thread. Please keep the conversation on track.
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Crazy Titan Nerd, who had a cookie, but gave it to NAPOI, but got it back, so now has one little cookie
in June 12th, 2008 @ 15:13191- Sorry…
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Crazy Titan Nerd, who had a cookie, but gave it to NAPOI, but got it back, so now has one little cookie
in June 13th, 2008 @ 12:43Does anyone have a math problem?
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in June 13th, 2008 @ 13:37192, 193-Please try to avoid double posting.
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in June 14th, 2008 @ 10:00Sixteen minutes until Discovery touches down…
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in June 14th, 2008 @ 10:01Over Yucatan, 750 miles to KSC…
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in June 14th, 2008 @ 10:08Visual!
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in June 14th, 2008 @ 10:0975 miles to go…
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in June 14th, 2008 @ 10:19Touchdown, all is well.
Welcome home, Discovery.
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in June 15th, 2008 @ 22:05Woot! *rejoices on behalf of Discovery*
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in June 15th, 2008 @ 22:24194- It’s kind of ironic that you scold CTN for double posting, and then KaiYves posts 5 times in a row…
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in June 15th, 2008 @ 22:39Hooray Discovery!
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in June 15th, 2008 @ 23:03199-What ARE you talking about?
I feel like everyone os somehow managing to read the NASA website without dying of boredom. I find it boring, but your guyses summaries are good. I think I’m going to find every single space important date and time way after you guys do. But then I’ve got to lear to brave boring stuff if I’m ever going to be a grown-up.
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in June 15th, 2008 @ 23:23203- He’s talking about the space shuttle Discovery, which has just returned to Earth. *celebrates*
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in June 16th, 2008 @ 00:17204-returned from where?
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in June 16th, 2008 @ 13:21205- The ISS. To fix a toilet/inspect a Japanese lab.
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in June 16th, 2008 @ 14:38204-She, just so you know.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 16th, 2008 @ 16:56I’m so glad it’s home safe!
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 17th, 2008 @ 16:24194- Well, I DIDN’T even post the two comments onthe same day!
The Discovery? I’ve missed alot of space-craft! I guess I was too absorded by Titan.
Hooray, Discovery!
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 18th, 2008 @ 19:08About a topic long since been forgotten…
I doubt anyone here can find 1 situation in real life in which there is an infinite amount of something existent.
Of course… this brings up the question “what is real”.Speaking of space travel, I’m not quite up to date.
By the way, do you think humans will ever send things into space? It would be really cool!
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Ê‘yviva
in June 18th, 2008 @ 19:23210- define “things”.
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 18th, 2008 @ 19:36211:
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stuff
you know, debris, “space ships”, anything…
Maybe some day, humans will walk on… the moon!Maybe this is too far fetched.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 18th, 2008 @ 19:43No, you can’t have infinity. It’s really just a concept, not a physical object. Wait… Thoughts! There are an infinite amount of thoughts! And parallel universes!
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 18th, 2008 @ 20:55I doubt that any of this, like seeing the side of the moon that never points at earth, or forming a “space station ” will ever exit the realms of science fiction into reality.
by the way, do you think that the world will end in 48 years?
you know, y2K?
2000 is a while from now, but I’ve just been wondering…
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 18th, 2008 @ 21:04Parallel universes have yet to be proven of their existence, and thoughts are intangible.
anyways, both, while not “finite” are not infinite.
there are insurmountably many of both, but if time stopped, you could count them all up with the right technology.
but that probably wont be invented until the last year in history…
1999.
Maybe even Dec. 29 of it.
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in June 18th, 2008 @ 21:05214- 1952?
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 18th, 2008 @ 21:09Would “Science and Math, Including Space” be a good place to show my idea of how to engeneer HPBs, or should I go somewhere else for it?
In my time zone, its getting late.
‘night.
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in June 18th, 2008 @ 21:11216:
yeah,
you got a problem with that?
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POSOC with 5 BP and 60 IWP
in June 18th, 2008 @ 21:43218- Talk to Paul Baker. He lives in the past, too.
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in June 18th, 2008 @ 22:41(215, 216, 218) A genuine inhabitant of 1952, eh? That’s exciting. We can tell you a few things about the future and maybe give you a little investment advice. You’ve got some surprises ahead! For one, you’re wrong about the end of the world. The year 1999 will come and go, and it will still be here. Ditto 2000, and at least seven years after that. There are a few places you’ll want to stay away from at certain times, but nothing global.
As for money — any ideas, MBers?
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Miss Inpronouncable, previously known as NAPOI
in June 18th, 2008 @ 22:45220-What about money?
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in June 18th, 2008 @ 22:46Well, someone in 1952 should be able to make loads of money on stocks and bets and things, with a little advice. I was just wondering what you would advise.
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POSOC with 5 BP and 60 IWP
in June 18th, 2008 @ 22:47220- Microsoft hasn’t been founded yet… wait about 23 years, then put your money on them.
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Ms. NoFandomButMuseblog
in June 18th, 2008 @ 23:00223-Oh, now everyone’s talking about MICROSOFT!
*freaks out*
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 08:59Don’t invest in airlines, they keep going bankrupt.
Electronics is a major industry- never underestimate the will of the people to be lazy.You’re best money making option might be as a science fiction writer– who gets it right. Then, in about 20 years whe everything comes true, you get loads of publicity and everyone buys the book.
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 09:24214- Okay, be a science fiction writer and get everything right as zyviva said.
In 1957, the Russians will launch the first satellite, Sputnik.
In 1959, a probe will photograph the Farside of the moon. It is mostly barren, with no lava plains.
In 1961, the first person will fly in space, Yuri Gagarin.
In 1963, the first woman, Valentina Treshkova.
In 1969, people will walk on the moon.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in June 19th, 2008 @ 09:30Are the wealthiest science-fiction writers the ones who most accurately predict the future?
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 09:43227- It depends on if they live to see what they predicted come true.
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Ê‘yviva
in June 19th, 2008 @ 11:00The wealthiest science fiction writers are the ones who sell the most books.
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 11:01I suspect that the wealthiest science-fiction writer ever was L. Ron Hubbard, who founded a religion — which, if you built up a track record for accurate prophecy, I suppose you’d be in an excellent position to do.
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The Bookworm & Lurline (10 piepoints and two B-Day Points!)
in June 19th, 2008 @ 12:11Found a Religion? *Cackles Maniacally*
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Piggy, the Biscuit Færie
in June 19th, 2008 @ 14:23If you really want to make a bundle, put money on Berkshire Hathaway. You’ll be glad you did.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 19th, 2008 @ 15:05What is happening here? History?
At 02:00 on December 25th, 2005, the Cassini orbiter will release the Huygens probe.
At11:04 on January 14, 2006, the Huygens probe will land on Titan…
The results will be amazinf!!!!!
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 19th, 2008 @ 15:07What is happening here? History?
At 02:00 on December 25th, 2005, the Cassini orbiter will release the Huygens probe.
At11:04 on January 14, 2006, the Huygens probe will land on Titan…
The results will be amazing!!!!!
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Life is Purple
in June 19th, 2008 @ 15:08227-Or least accurate.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 19th, 2008 @ 15:35233, 234- How did THAT happen???
Oh well, space is wonderful!
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Life is Purple
in June 19th, 2008 @ 16:17Oh, hi, CTN! Long time no see! Email me more!
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 19th, 2008 @ 17:44219:
I DON’T live in the past!
I’m only… wait, for safety purposes, I cant give my exact age…
So I am between 11 and 13 years old.
That’s too young to live in the past.
and it is 1952!
wait, computers were invented many years from now… how would I be on the inter – reli7tyR*U(TH%T^(&*YT%&)T(*Y#$*&FYH(I#$&FUWGE*$&ZZZZZT
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 19th, 2008 @ 17:46219: who’s Paul Baker?
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 18:05Our resident wung expert and Tudor musician.
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 18:14239- he is paul baker.
I Think, GAPAs, that is the best way to describe him?
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in June 19th, 2008 @ 18:21(241) I think that covers it, yes.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 20th, 2008 @ 14:04237- That is quite random for the space thread…
238- That is quite odd. Are you sure it is 1952?
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POSOC with 5 BP and 60 IWP
in June 20th, 2008 @ 14:19I think perhaps Fforde Fan is spoofing the prevalent idea that the world will end in 2012 by pretending to believe in an End-of-the-World scenario that we already know not to be true.
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in June 20th, 2008 @ 14:35244- ???
End of world scenario? Someone explain…
And tell Fforde Fan to beware of Global Warming…
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POSOC with 5 BP and 60 IWP
in June 20th, 2008 @ 15:01245- Y2K. Everyone thought that all the computers in the world would crash when 2000 came, because they’d read only the last two digits, think it was suddenly 1900, and cause a paradox. It didn’t happen thanks to a bunch of hard-working computer programmers who fixed the bug that would have caused the crash.
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The Man For Aeiou&Pete
in June 20th, 2008 @ 15:28246- And May I ask, what was the problem with that?
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in June 20th, 2008 @ 15:30All the pre-millennial doomsday talk inspired me to write an end-of-the-world article for Muse.
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in June 20th, 2008 @ 15:47246- All the computers crashing would certainly result in a great deal of pandemonium, but the world wouldn’t end because of it.
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in June 20th, 2008 @ 15:55249- You’re right- I suppose it would be more of an end-of-civilization scenario.
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in June 20th, 2008 @ 16:23250- hardly that. how many people had Computers back then?
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in June 20th, 2008 @ 16:49251- Probably not many, but how about in 1999?
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan
in June 21st, 2008 @ 06:11How long do you think this war will last?
I hope we finally win against The Soviet Union.
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in June 21st, 2008 @ 15:09The war in Korea, do you mean?
Everything ends up okay in 1990 or thereabouts, and you won’t have to worry about the USSR anymore. And you make it without anybody being blown up.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in June 21st, 2008 @ 17:35This is getting interesting…
But WHAT does this has to do with space???
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Ê‘yviva
in June 22nd, 2008 @ 07:22I have a time travel question:
Which of the following four people are older? An adult, (say, Paul Baker) who lives in the past, a minor (Say, Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan) who lives in the past, an adult in the present (Say, Robert), or a minor who lives in the present (Say me), and why?
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 13:09An adult in the past, I think… (This is sort of Science…)
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 15:35An adult in the past…
(maybe it is)
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 16:43254: good!
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 16:43254: I’m glad!
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 16:56257/258– why?
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 17:09(258) Most people who were adults in the past were younger then than they are now (assuming they’re still alive).
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in June 22nd, 2008 @ 18:13*Gets a headache from All the talking*
Oldest to Youngest
Paul
Brendan
Robert
Ê‘yviva
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan (7 Brain Points)
in June 29th, 2008 @ 17:13I figured out how to find the area of a circle in a way completely different than the current method.
It does not involve Pi at all, but instead uses a different arbitrary, and endless (I think) number…
1.5580204… … …What should I name it, like how 3.1415926535… is called “Pi”,
and 1.6… is called “Phi”?Oh, and by the way, I checked, it is not half of Pi, and when i refined it, it moved away from Phi.
What year does Paul Baker live in, I may still be older than him.
1.5580204!!!!!
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in July 1st, 2008 @ 19:11264- do share the method.
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan (7 Brain Points)
in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:40I just realized that it is not quite as accurate as before, but it is about as accurate as piR2 using 3.14.
What you do is you get a circle and make a square inside so the four corners are touching the outline of the square.
There should be four semicircles left uncovered by the square.
Find the area of the square and multiply it by 1.5580204 (until I refine it…) and that is the area.Anyone with too much time on their hands over the summer are welcome to join in helping.
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Ê‘yviva
in July 2nd, 2008 @ 19:19266- although your number is not equal to pi/2, that is what you are trying to multiply it by. here’s my reasoning:
Definitions:
there is a circle with radius ‘r’.
the square that is in the circle has side length ‘s’.
r and s are both any real, positive number.
your mystery variable is ‘x’.steps in my logic:
1. 2r is the diagonal of the square so r=s/root2
2. pi*r^2 is the area of the circle so I proceed to the following equation:
pi*r^2=x*s^2
3. since r=s/root2, the equation in step two can be changed to read:
pi*( s/root2)^2=x*s^2
to simplify that:
pi*(s^2)/2=x*s^2
4. divide both sides by s^2 and:
pi/2=xI applaud you for trying to solve things differently, even if this time it came to naught. Does my logic make sense to you?
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in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:06255-It doesn’t have to do with space.
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan (7 Brain Points)
in July 4th, 2008 @ 16:18267:
Not really, but I believe it is correct because most of it makes sense…
And technically, it didn’t come to naught. It is still its own method.
Pi/2 is its own number, and thus can be given its own name.Oh, and how can you do the weird thing with the “z”?
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in July 4th, 2008 @ 18:12269- what ‘z’?
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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)
in July 4th, 2008 @ 20:17270-The “Ê‘”, he means! Ê‘Ê‘Ê‘Ê‘Ê‘
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Crazy Titan Nerd (TEE325 and TTP336)
in July 5th, 2008 @ 00:43??????????????????????????????
I am confused…
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan (7 Brain Points)
in July 5th, 2008 @ 10:11272:
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Ê‘yviva
in July 5th, 2008 @ 20:53271- oh…. *sheepsih grin*
its alt + 657 in word,but when on the blog all i get is æ, so i copied and pasted.
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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan (37 Brain Points)
in July 9th, 2008 @ 20:38I just made honors!!!!!!!!
*pies myself out of happiness!*
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Ê‘yviva monowung
in July 10th, 2008 @ 17:44*pies brendan with celbratory pie*
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in July 16th, 2008 @ 22:52I got a five!
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in July 16th, 2008 @ 22:55277 – On what?
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in July 17th, 2008 @ 06:30277 (zyviva): Congratulations! I’m assuming that’s an AP score? Which subject?
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in July 17th, 2008 @ 15:44279- calc ab
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in July 19th, 2008 @ 13:45*hands 1,537,916,204 congratulatory pies to Ê‘yviva*
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in July 20th, 2008 @ 20:41281- My thanks.
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Crazy Titan Nerd
in August 18th, 2008 @ 11:05What is happening here?
It doesn’t seem that people are talking about space anymore.
Anyways, I made an Asronomy Blog website:[Snip! Sorry, it’s still a personal website, no matter how otherwise harmless. –Admin.]
It’s rather harmless, so…
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The Incredibly Titanite Astronomy Nerd (aka Crazy Titan Nerd)
in October 22nd, 2008 @ 10:12Okay, this is not a popular thread…
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in January 16th, 2010 @ 20:33This is a very, very dead thread. A very dead thread, a very dead thread…Anyway. I just saw a post from back when I was bubblebabe46 that I’d post on the Space thread. So here I am, a little late.
Today – actually, just now – I realized how little about space I actually knew, when I couldn’t name a single space vehicle out there now but Challenger. And I’ve probably gotten the name wrong, because I just realized wasn’t that the one that blew up> I mean the one that went out in like the 80s, the one with the picture of the man and woman on it…the one mentioned in Space Station Seventh Grade. It was a space station, that’s what it was, and what is it called? Ugh. I’ll go try to look it up…I found it. It was the Pioneer. Now, why did I think it was called the Challenger?
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LittleBasementKitten and Kityera (^>^) (Sheimei, Halena, Cailin, and Cadeo)
in January 17th, 2010 @ 05:53AHHHH!!!!! LIVE THREAD, LIVE!!!!!!!!! So, with that out of the way, does anyone else here think black holes are confusing? I mean, I know what they are-basically a small hole in the fabric of reality-but, that just makes my head spin.
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in January 18th, 2010 @ 19:36Pretty much all I know about space is that the planets go Mercury Venus Earth Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto, and that Jupiter is the biggest. Actually, space scares me a little.
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