97 thoughts on “Pluto”

  1. It SHOULD be a planet. What is the definition of a planet, anyway? why was Pluto suddenly stripped of its planethood?

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  2. first post? I didn’t read the newspaper yet today, so I don’t know very much about it. *goes to read pluto article*

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  3. Ha ha, Pluto. Ha ha. (I was firmly anti-planet for Pluto since this debate has been going on.) It’s not a planet. Stop pampering it. Anyway, being a semi-planet or whever the IAU has decided to call it is cooler. And Pluto deserves cool. (Hur hur hur.)

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  4. It is NOT a planet. It is an overblown, over-hyped Kuiper Belt asteroid. If we admitted Pluto, there would be more like 32 planets in the solar system. I think that the qualifying feature for planethood should be a substantial atmosphere.

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  5. Poor poor Pluto! *snibble* I’ll still reguard it as a planet, tho. They can’t change what I’ve allredy learned.

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  6. Pluto technically was never a planet to begin with. It was a Kuiper Belt Object, or KBO.

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  7. THO (19),

    Scientists never had to define “planet” before. It wasn’t an astronomical term–more of an astrological one.

    This week astronomers finally got around to it at a meeting in Prague. They came up with two possible definitions. One was, basically, “anything that orbits a star, doesn’t orbit another planet, and is massive enough so that its gravity pulls it into a round shape.” Sounds reasonable? The problem is that even fairly small objects would qualify under that definition. A lot of things we’ve never considered planets before would suddenly turn into planets, and we’d wind up with 50 or so of them in all.

    So some of them added another qualification: a planet also has to be big enough to have gobbled up most of the stray rubble in its area of space. So even if it’s round, it’s not a planet if it’s sitting in the middle of the asteroid belt (like Ceres) or in the Kuiper Belt (like Pluto). That’s the definition that won this week.

    People who liked the first definition are pretty annoyed, though, so the argument may not be over yet.

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  8. yes, it wastes a whole ton of everyone’s time. Please don’t.

    It makes sense, though I still sort of wanted Ceres to become a planet…

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  9. 23: That would eliminate Murcury and Neptune and Uranus because Mercury has no atmosphere (it was burned away) and Neptune and Uranus are Gas Giants with no quantifiable surface. Some would argue that it is physically impossible to have an atmosphere if one has no surface. This is an interesting problem.

    CAN WE PLEASE GET URANIA IN HERE!?!?!?!?!?

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  10. I’m the Uranian Prime Muser(Chronicles of Museica). Does that count?

    Pluto, Xena, and Ceres are dwarf planets. That’s more memorable than being planets, anyway. And does it really matter? Will your day to day life be drastically changed if Pluto is not a planet? But I do miss Pluto.

    Let’s think of alternate mnemonics(spelling?)(those sentences where the first letter of each word spells something).

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  11. I care because, well, like GiM said, I dislike change. I don’t know why, but espesally sence I just started high school I want everything to go back to the way it was.

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  12. BZM (36),

    Larry Gonick is the liaison with the Muses. I’ve e-mailed him to let him know that MBers are clamoring for Urania. That’s all I can do.

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  13. All right, the qualifying attribute for planethood is;
    “Big enough to have an atmosphere under favorable conditions(i.e. far enough away from the star so that the atmosphere wouldn’t get burned away).”
    Uranus and Neptune are ALL atmosphere.

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  14. Some astronomers at the meeting proposed exactly that definition, but the idea didn’t get much support. I’m not sure why, but I’ll try to find out.

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  15. Pluto. He probably guessed this was coming. As I said in August Meltdown, Part 2, (along with PP) he was probably bullied and is glad to be free among the dwarf planets.

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  16. Poor Scorpios. Pluto rules their house. The horoscope is based off of the movements of Pluto. If Pluto goes away, THEY’LL HAVE NO HOROSCOPE! Astrology will be thrown out of the bar reeling and drunken, so to speak!

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  17. Pluto may not be a planet, but it is still a planette. Heehee. I don’t really care. Neptune and Uranuse qualify, but I’m not quite sure about mercury.

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  18. Awww, poor Pluto. I think that these so called “scientests” are biased against 11-year old little girls who know what a good name for a planet is……. :)

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  19. Hello, Zyka and fellowmuser! *pies Zyka with strawberries and creame pie* *pies fellowmuser with lemon meringue pie*

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  20. 44 – Just because he isn’t considered a planet doesn’t mean he can’t help out with the horoscope.

    46 – I think you have a good thought there.

    Hey, fellowmuser! *pies*

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  21. Hey, I posted on #42! (I’m getting the hang of this answer to the world, something, and the universe – that wasn’t mocking, that was just forgetting exactly what it was.)

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  22. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!HOHOOHOOHOOHOOHOIHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This is hillarious! The reason I am laughing is becuase of this one girl in my social studies class last year, well, I’ll just tell the story.

    Now, my SS teacher was real funny and sarcastic so when somehow whe got into talking about pluto, we eventually ran into the subject of people, and how they couldn’t survive on pluto.
    Now this girl I’m talking about it one of the populars. She’s not mean, she’s just not the brightest crayon in the box! So anyways, she raised her hand and immediatley asked, “Is there people on pluto?” My teacher gave her this look and then said sarcastically, “Oh yeah! You could take a vacation there!” She squealed and said “Maybe I van take a vacation there!” We all started laughing while my teacher quitely explained to her.

    That was Hillarious!

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  23. today was my 1st day of school, and there was a map of the solar system on the walls. so i went up there and announced that pluto wasnt a planet. (the teacher hadnt come yet) people began to ask all sorts of questions. i have to say, i like plutos demotion. its shouldnt be a planet if there are dozens of other objects like it.
    And how do you say Kuiper anywaYS?

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  24. Kuiper is a Dutch name, so it should be pronounced “Kyper” (to rhyme with “viper” and “sniper”). But American astronomers I interviewed recently said “Kooeeper.”

    Pluto’s moon Charon poses problems, too. Technically, it should be pronounced “KHA-ron,” starting with a raspy sound like the way Germans say “ach.” Second best would be either a hard K, Karon, or an H sound like the word “heron.” But American astronomers just say “Sharon,” like the girl’s name.

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  25. Kuiper-“Kyper”, like “Hyper.”
    Charon-“KHA-ron”, like “Bah, Ron.” Anyone who pronounces it “Sharon” is looking for an excuse to play “My Sharona.”

    55-Your elitism is disgusting and obstructs Terran expansion. There may be GRILLIONS of objects like Earth.

    Haskamir was so much cooler! In Hastablon system, with Hasselmar and it’s mineral deposits, and Hasparohn is covered with water, and there’s also Hasnoron, a smaller planet that was our version of Hollywood, I guess. I got to go to the Rennaux Awards the year I left. Like the Oscars, the Emmys, and the Raspberries rolled together with the Isle of Wight festival and no commercials.

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  26. I eem new ‘ere. I ‘ave soobscaribed to Moose for 2-3 yeers, and zees ees my theerd time ‘blooging’, or vwateveer you call zees ting.
    Tawain Hippo Fan: *pies galore*

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  27. 61-You’re doing very well right now, mon ami.

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  28. Juliette (57),

    The astronomer who discovered Charon pronounced it with an initial “sh” sound because his wife’s name was Charlene. (For the record, he was James Christy of the U.S. Naval Observatory, and he made the discovery in 1978.)

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  29. Pluto is a PLANET!! You cannot, repeat CANNOT, undiscover a planet. It’s just insane. Why shouldn’t they undiscover America while they’re at it? And also, it shouldn’t matter that it’s small. Babies are small and they’re still people. No one says, “You’re not a person. You’re too small.”
    I could go on, but I’ll spare you.

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  30. Pluto hasn’t been undiscovered, just reclassified. If astronomers accept this new naming system (and some say they won’t), then Pluto will be called a “dwarf planet” and will also be the innermost member of a group of trans-Neptunian Kuiper Belt objects whose overall name is still to be determined. (Let’s hope it’s not “Trans-Neptunian Kuiper Belt Objects.”)

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  31. Pluto’s been stripped of it’s title. ;_; I think Pluto deserves to be a planet, just because it’s been a planet for so long. I mean, it’s one of people’s favorite planets! *sniff* Poor Pluto. *shakes fist angrily*

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  32. 67 – Why are you a hater? You don’t have to be a lover, but the exact opposite is a bit much, don’t you think? Why do you say that?

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  33. Just goes to show you shouldn’t trust “scientists”. They say “Pluto is a planet”, then years later they say “um… Pluto is not a planet”. They should say “WE THINK Pluto is a planet”.

    Anyway, you can fix this by adding “I think” to the beginning of anything a scientist says YOURSELF.

    Humph.

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  34. 16-Sign me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  35. Mr. C. (73),

    Well, you certainly shouldn’t trust scientists never to change their minds about anything, ever.

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  36. Has anyone one heard yet?!

    there’s a new planet in our solar system to replace pluto!

    here’s a link to Scientific American:

    [Bella, the link didn’t work. And as you might know, we’re not keen on external links here on MuseBlog anyhow. So how about if YOU tell us what’up with the potential new planet?? — Rosanne]

    I think that’ll get you to the article, though my computers not letting me see it, but that should tell you all about the newest definiton of “planet” and the newest addition to out solar system – I think it’s called Xena! check out the link, would you? and tell me what you get…

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  37. what i got when i searched was that xena is a dwarf plaent and not a regular planet. there are still only eight planets proper (for the mooment

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  38. as a joke, my newspaper printed a letter about how some one wants her third grad eteacher form like the 60’s to change her grade b/c she had failed a science report by writing that their were only eight planets.

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  39. I think they’ve gone the wrong way. I think they should go with the inclusive definition, which makes more sense. I mean, is rubble gobbling an appropriate qualification for a significant celestial body? How would you like it if your granny tried it? Anyway, we’d get lots and lots of new planets, the names of which every schoolchild would have to learn. Having left school, I’m exempt.

    *cackle*

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  40. 86- Aw…feel some mercy for us kids!
    85- Lol. That would be like someone from my 3rd grade class getting annoyed at my teacher because they had to do a report on a dwarf planet instead of a planet!

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  41. How about something less dramatic? Like Eric. Or Nigel. Or Jeeves. There really ought to be a planet called Jeeves.

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  42. But what would the headlines look like in however many years? “Man (or possibly woman) on Jeeves: First Human to set foot on the baren surface of Jeeves.” And imagine if someone else just happened to be named Jeeves. How would they feel about it? I know a kid named Ernesto and this whole “Hurricane Ernesto” scare brought him a lot of teasing. Naming planets would be even worse.

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  43. It’s a good thing the Natural History Museum never made Pluto a planet, so wOOt for the Natural History Museum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  44. I’m writing a futuristic sci-fi book about life on other planets and Pluto’s featured in it. Now there’s even MORE planets to include. Yeesh, at this rate, I won’t be able to keep up!

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  45. In astronomical circles Pluto hasn’t been a planet for a pretty long time. So i don’t miss it whatsoever. Anyways, it’s not like planets or not-planets care what their status is according to us. so get over it.

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  46. I am a plutonian. that means i live on pluto. we are a peaceful planet. we hope that us being demoted will make less of you humans come and visit us. we will not take revenge.

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