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What is this about? What are “Runes and Symbols”?
first post! yahoo! well, about runes and stuff…
in my book it said for no apparent reason:
In this fateful hour
I call on heaven and all it’s power
And the sun with it’s brightness
And the snow with it’s whiteness
And the night with it’s darkness
And the earth and it’s starkness
And the ocean with it’s deepness
And the rocks with their steepness
All of these I place
Between myself and the powers of darkness
some fellow MBers may recall thatfrom a book by Madeline L’Engle.
OOPS! Sorry! You should have gotten it since you seem to know what you’re talking about.
2- patrick’s rune from A Swiftly Tilting Planet! I love Madeleine L’Engle’s books!
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kay. here i reinstate my opinion.
i fail to see why they have any more value than dropping a printer from a fifth floor window and looking at the blotch the ink makes. they may mean something, but so may dropping printers.
6-That’s kind of a waste of a perfectly good printer.
I once put all the wooden letter squares from a game of Scrabble in a bag, and randomly shook them out for about 9 seconds, and then tried to arrange them to make words and sentences…it was pretty funny, looking back on it.
6. what does your comment have to do with the thread?
ANyway, i’m reading a book called the Secrets of Epsilon and the girl in the book is finding weird runes, and i am having fun figuring them out. I took a course in codes and ciphers over the summer so it’s not to hard to decipher them.
Hmm… I tried tarrot (lost the cards now) and astrology and stuff, but that was a while ago. It’s interesting, though, the whole subject.
I guess i dont know what runes an symbols are, i thought they were just pictures and/or letters. Is this like scrying? (looking into a cracked mirror until you go crazy and start to see pictures)
i thin krunes are like the gaelic writing style and symbols are … symbols. The runes were used as writing, like russian is used as writing, and symbols are more for codes. I don’t think it’s similar to scrying.
8-He’s talking about when you drop a printer from a fifth floor window, and try to tell the future from the shape of the ink the comes out of it, which is indeed related to this thread.
oh yeah. when i say they, i am referring to runes.
12. OHHHHH that makes some sense now. thanx
2- You’re mixing some of it up and losing parts. As I recall:
At Tara in this fateful hour
I call on all heaven with its power
and the sun with its brightness
and the snow with its whiteness
and the fire with all the strength it hath
and the lightning with its rapid wrath
and the winds with their swiftness along their path
and the sea with its deepness
and the rocks with their steepness
and the earth with its starkness
all these I place
with God’s almighty help and grace
between myself and the powers of darkness
Aren’t runes like writing symbols? Like I know someone who can use anglo-saxon runes to write.
A sample from what I can remember
a= |v
…..|\
c= |
…..|\
g=X
e=M
b=|>
….|>
The dots are there to keep it lined up and not part of the runes. They’re not all to scale with each other.
11 – YES! Gealic/Norse/Celtic/Iforgot ancient form of writing. And yes, also a prediction method. I never heard about the printer-dropping thing, though. Interesting.
Hmm. I think this thread needs a bit of focusing. As such, I shall induce a survey. Is induce the right word for that? I don’t know. Oh well.
Unfortunately, Skipper knows little about Runes and Symbols, but she shall try her best to come up with good questions.
1.What different systems of Runes do you know of? Where did they originate, what were they used for and what are their histories?
2.Have you ever made up your own symbols of runes? What did you use them for?
3. Are their any really cool symbols that you’ve seen that you’d like to describe?
4. Is Skipper the best thing since sliced bread? (no need to answer this one, we all know what the correct response is)
5.What other bits of Runes and symbols expertise can you share with us?
1. Runes were used for a system of writing, and as 16 said, they were from Gaelic/Celtic/Norse. I don’t know if they have names, an it’s kind of hard to explain if you can’t draw them, but 15 did a good job.
2. I made up a very….strange code when i was about 8, but it didn’t really work, and was kinda useless.
3. The symbols at the bottom of the artemis fowl books!! #1, 4, and 5. I deciphered the one at the bottom of the 1st one, and it said i am ohm, the phlegm pot cleaner and the one in 4 was from foaly telling you to tap in a hole o nthe ground with a stick. Rather pointless.
4. Ummmm sure
5. Not much really, i just like codes. see post 8, that was me.
1. What counts as a rune? i’ve seen some really cool arabic calligraphy that might count
2. No, sorry but I have made up my own languages
3. I saw the symbols in artemis too! but i only decoded the first one
4. Of course! The question is- what is a nancy?
5. My brother says that runes are in videogames like runescape to make magic. But i can’t verify that
I ♥ pentagrams.
As for runes…I think my favourite is the Ogham alphabet right now, which is an alphabet where most of the symbols are based on different types of trees. They also symbolize social classes.
I decoded the Artemis Fowl symbols in Lost Colony, Opal Deception and Artemis Fowl.
i ♥ inverted pentagrams. xD
lol. the printer dropping method was a joke to illustrate the absence of reason in the argument the runes can actually predict anything. if you think the printer thing works, you’re weird.
hope the heart thing worked. lol.
Isn’t this topic from one of the older muses?
I’m sure I could go get it… But I’m too lazy.
I like Dragonscript from Dragonology.
(small triangle enclosing a circle and square both interjoined)
21: How did you do that?? I tried to, but I had no idea where to begin!
26- If you go to page 26 it tells you most of the symbols.then on the opposite page it tells you what it means. for example the pentagon with tyhe lines is t because on the other side it says the book of the people. FYI te e is a squiggly underline. It took me a while to figure that out.
This is not 21, by the way, but 18. the dots mean spaces, by the way. arrows mean the end of a scentance.
if you need help, i have them all decoded so just ask.
Wowzers, the code from Artemis Fowl…I could never figure that one out, and I haven’t even read the Lost Colony, yet…I’ve been so busy….
You’ve not read the Lost Colony!!!!!! OMG!!!! The beginning is a bit hard to get into at the beginning, but it gets way better. READ IT!!!!
I made up an alphabet comprised of letters that look a teeensy bit like our alphabet but not entirely like it. I might send it in.
please do 31!!
31-I have invented at least three languages, some with 26 symbols, some with ten, and one where each letter had its own 15 or so letter name, which you had to write out with with sybols. The last one was almost impossible to decode, but it took a whole paragraph to write one word.
Well, the language I’m working on now is looking like it might work. Language inventing = FUN! 
urf… I spelled “symbols” “sybols”.
A
I /
I /
I
B
I>
I>
C
I
E
M
F
(don’t know how to make slashes backwards.)
G
………../
……
…../
H
(H with two middle lines lanting upwards)
I
I
J
(again doesn’t know how to do backwards slashes)
K
IXI
L
(backwards slashes)
M
IXI
I..I
N
(I with / through it.)
O
P
(backwards slashes)
Q
(O with I through it)
R
(linear R with shorter line on right side)
S
/_
../
T
( “Up” arrow)
U
(linear U turned upside down with right side shorter than left)
V
(backwards slashes)
W
(linear P)
X
X
Y
(y turned upside-down))
Z
(upside-down peace symbol without the circle)
Names – And I’ll remember some more later.
E – Eh
M – Mannaz
Q – Ger
F – Feoh
I – Is
L – Lagu
C – Cen
H – Hagel
R – Rad
U – Ur
30-Yes, ma’am! Lol.
15- We are all geeks, aren’t we?
29- Yes indeedy. Especially the *covers mouth to avoid giving away climax through ending*. Yeah. That was the best part.
___
/ :. \
\ \_/ /
(my own personal symbol)
35- You mean like this \ ? On my computer, it’s the button right below the back-space button.
38- Mine too! What a small world…
/ :. \
\ \_/ /
kinda lopsided
I invented this stupid secret-code thingie when I was a little kid. I just called it the Break Apart code, b/c all it really was was the letters of the regular alphabet, separated into individual segments. For example, |— is E, C- is G, etc…O and C don’t change, b/c they can’t be broken up into segments. I used ~ to separate letters, and I usually wrote everything backwards…It was pretty useless, and took a long time to write/decode.
31- me too. Then I modified it to look a bit like tengwar. It’s purty now. I could scan some of it and send it in if the gapas would post it and you guys could guess which was which as I WOULDN’T TELL YOU! XD teehee. It’s not necessary or absolutely vital to my VERY EXISTANCE so you wouldn’t have to post my scans if you didn’t feel like it, Gapas. (my, am I feeling weirdly dramatic today) I also made a code where each letter was supposed to be somewhat like a die (you know, the singular of dice). I even made a book in English and in my code. It was pretty spiffy.
In my new language I got rid of the “c”. Come on peoples, just use a “k” or a “s”!
You could get rid of “x,” too, by using a “k” and an “s.”
When I was Muser-aged, I decided to abolish as many letters as possible. I got rid of c and x as just mentioned (ch became kh) and turned “qu” into “kw.” Then I went after j (=gh), f (=ph), and v (= bh). I differentiated th (as in “thin”) from dh (as in “then”). I took “y” off vowel duty and turned it strictly into a consonant, substituting “i” or “ai” for its “ee” and long-i uses (and using “ae” for the long-a sound). Finally, for no particular reason, I turned all “ow” and equivalent “ou” sounds into “ao.” It wasn’t entirely phonetic — just a bit stripped-down.
Dhe results looked bheri odd until you got used to dhem. Ai traied to eksplaen dhem to mai grandmodher, but she ghust said, “Ai don’t understand whai anione would want to do something laik dhat.” Ai replaied, “Ghust phor phun.” And Ai’m habhing phun with dhem again nao.
(This was apart from several other alphabets I invented, and the Tengwar and Angerthas I used to write at the top of my eighth-grade school assignments.)
(43) Meanwhile, I was inventing a bizarre assortment of calligraphic scripts. Had we pooled our resources, we could have been totally incomprehensible.
MBers may not know this, but Lady Bunniful and I went to school together for a while when we were teenagers. Neither of us realized what a nerd the other one was, though. Too bad.
Guess what? I decoded the whole aremis fowl fairy code and my friend said it was impossible. You can get it now in a new book, the artemis fowl files. sorry, it’s not a story. I checked my answers. They were right. Yay!!!!
I invented my own secret code when I was eight, too. It’s quite simple–one symbol per letter–but I left out apostrophes to make it harder to decode. I committed it to memory and still can write in it six years later. But now I’m working on an actual language with different words and grammar rules. There is something so appealing about the fact that no one can understand you. Not that they do anyway.
(47) But it’s much more satisfying to mystify them deliberately.
Codes are fun. I made one in which the vowels are on the top or bottom of the letters. It is cool.
I was scribbling the other day, and I decided to try writing my name and connecting all the letters together – Each letter had to have part of the previous letter in it. It took me about half an hour to spell out my full name this way, but the result was really cool!
Ai laik dhat aidea, Robert. It’s an interesting one and makes you think abaot what the saonds in words are. (Though ai don’t kwait understand the “i” rule…)
“Ow” sounded to me like a fast “a-o,” and long “i” sounded to me like a fast “a-ee.” Because the “ee” sound in my modified alphabet was represented by “i,” Ai desaided dhat long “I” had to be konbherted into “ai.” Ai nebher bodhered to maek dhe alphabet fulli phonetik, dho. It ran aot obh steam aphter adults phaeled to taek an interest in it.
None of this has anything to do with runes or symbols, though.
52- yeah, it’d work better in Coy Woodness.
Runes are strange… A friend of mine consulted them on his relationship problem. He got three different runes telling him the same thing: End this chapter in your life, you are ready for new experiences. That’s exactly what he did, he broke up and is happy now. Wierd…
But remember, as Odin says in the Havamal: “It is better not to ask than to sacrifice too much”. I’m not using them that much, there are some things I don’t want to know…
That is all really confusing Mr Coontz. I never got the proununciation things in dictionaries.*sigh*
That’s what my grandmother said. But if you think that’s confusing, stick around. This blog raises confusion to heights that non-Musers can’t even imagine.
54-so you think that they work, and yet you have no idea why. that seems stupid to me. i do not think that you could prove that runes do anything. could you explain why my printer example is different from runes?
Ai think ai will trai this. Ai am ae bit sad at dhe loss of dhe ‘J,’ but it will be phun to spell mai naem “Gheshica” at random taims. Is this raight, bai dhe wae, Robert?
wuhaetuh. wuhee kaahnut oose da leeteer “J”?
as ai don’t need dhe letter “c” ai have remobhed it phrom mai naim.
Err… intresting. Ai am naot a hughe phan of dhis, but Ai’ll trei tu-
AAAAAAAAAARRRGH!! I seriously could not stand that. I’ll send in my funkay alphabet ASAP. (as in as soon as I get home from skoolio.)
61- Realli? Ai faind it quaite fun. Ai aebhen traied tau use it in ae note tau mi friend, but shi didn’t realli get it. Ao well.
46- I’m working on it. Just after I finish my Latin…
57: Dude, I don’t know. All I know is that whenever I consult them they’re creepily accurate. I’m freaked out.
Btw, what futhark do people use? I use the Ancient Futhark, 24 characters, rune names are Fehu, Uruz, Thurisaz, Ansuz, Raidho, Kenaz.
wuts futhark?
65: just like alphabet is the first two letters alpha and beta, futhark is the phonetic values of the first six runes.
ok i dont really get runes either. sorry i need a lot of splanin
66- Ah. That makes sence. But i don’t have any runes, so I don’t know. I think it would be interesting to get some, even just to see what they were like.
68: Do that. Veeery interesting for meditation, spirituality, incantations and divination.
I’ve created an entire alphabet
so i should get some? where the heck do u buy runes anyway?
71- You don’t BUY runes. You MAKE THEM UP.
Well, there probably are some that you buy too. I’ll probably just end up painting some designs on rocks and see where that goes.
Why waste paint on rocks? Why not paint, for example, your nice new shiny paper?
You can buy rune sets, but it’s strongly recommend you make your own. I’m in the process of carving runic batons and staffs.
That’s cool. And I don’t really paint that much so it wouldn’t be wasting. Fridgy, do you make up the symbols or are there places you get them from/know about?
anyone play Runescape????
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What is the point of runescape? I don’t get it.
2 get stuff
well im a Muse blogger/Runescapian
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Um, help?
76: Um… the Runes are an ancient, in fact the oldes known alphabet. Look up Ancient Futhark.
in wikipedia?
A
I \
I \
I
B
I \
I /
I \
I /
C
/
\
D
I
I \
I /
I
E
I \ / I
I…..I
F
I /
I /
I
G
……./
..
/
H
I…I
I /.I
I /.I
I…I
I
I
J
/\
I I
K
IXI
L
I \
I
M
IXI
I..I
N
I with / through it
O
P
I \ /
I / \
Q
O with I through it
R
I \
I /
I \
I
S
/_
../
T
/\
.I
U
_
I \
I…\
I
V
…_
…I.\
.\ I
…-
W
I \
I /
I
X
X
Y
…I
…I
./ I
Z
\ I /
.I
Runic interpretation varies from alphabet to alphabet, but the main is the ancient Futhark, and we should all stick to that.