May/June 2007 Muse Discussion
Spoilers are inevitable on this thread.
Date: April 20, 2007
Categories: The magazine
Friday, 3 May 2024
Life, the universe, pies, hot-pink bunnies, world domination, and everything
Spoilers are inevitable on this thread.
Date: April 20, 2007
Categories: The magazine
i havent gotten it yet but i just want a first post really bad!!!!!!!!!
1-Hmmm… Ok, but try not to do that usually.
should we be discussing something? how about love!(just kidding) okay, what do you think about the internet? do you think it should be commecialized? i mean like owned by a private companies like verizon and comcast? well, i don’t know if anyone wants to discuss this but who cares! i like randomness!
The idea is to discuss things that were in the magazine, after you’ve read it.
1-Posting just because you want a first post and don’t have anything to say is generaly frowned upon on MB.
3-That’s more the kind of thing that should go on the incredible morphing chameleon, or the April discussion thread, or whatever it’s called. The Muse discussion thread is specifically for discussing whichever issue of the magazine the thread title suggests.
I’ve not gotten mine yet. It is only the middle of April though.
ohhh……what was the mag about? i forget :blush:
5- Well, it’s that or leave this thread blank. MOST of us haven’t got ours yet.
*Looks at mag* Hmmmm… Oh! Okay. Here’s a hint. *pretends to be dead*
Jeez, it’s not May yet. I haven’t got mine yet.
yeah me either
Anyone see the Muse Contest? I was in it! At least, thats what one of my friends said.
I got my issue. It’s on MONEY. MONEYMONEYMONEYYYYY. It talks about economics and stuff. There’s also an article about an internet video game whose peices are so valuable to some people that they’d pay real money to buy them on eBay. No joke. The article also talks about money’s transition from the tangible world to the virtual one.
Also, it’s nearly May, so those of you who havent’ gotten it yet will soon. The only bad thing about the issue coming early is that now i have to wait for the July/August issue in 2 months.
i wish there was a june muse
I liked it, especially the article on how the economy works. It made me ROFLMAO!!
that mag was awesome. i liked the article on how the economy works, too. hilarious! liked the 1/3 to bill gates thing. LOL
I really enjoyed the issue on grameen. Is anyone else here interested in sustainable development? I thought the whole issue was fascinating.
I love Dave Barry. I love Grameen. I love lawling at srs business internetsers. General consensus: Good issue. Yay.
How is it that I love every issue of Muse more than the last? They reprinted a Dave Barry article! The internet game thing was just sort of weird, though I know they can be really addictive. “Banker for the Poor” was really interesting.
If you want to learn more about stocks or actaully have a (pretend) one, you can go to investopedia.com. Really cool stock simulator there.
Hi. I jus… OOOOOOPS! Wrong thread! Cool. The comment at the end of the economics article was true. Even though I can’t FATHOM a lot of what he said, I don’t think the economics people understand economics either. I LOVED the Ultima Online article. As to Koko and comp., that dollar bill DID turn Kokonino County backwards. Craww chasing Pwt is sdrawkcab, Mimi not getting along is the OPPISITE of her character, etc., etc. Bo was right!
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
That should be enough. If not…oh well.
Anyways! I just got my mag today and it was AWESOME! The economics article was hilarious, and I loved the stuff about the virtual currency because that’s what my school project was on last trimester. Yay for Muse!
Dave Barry is briliiant. Maybe Muse should feature more of his articles.. :]
The time travel Q&A thing was really interesting too..
I was also wondering…how come muse mag’s size shrunk?
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That should be enough.
9-That was last month.
This issue is about money.
Not to offend, but do any of you play that expensive game? I guess you have to be really good at it to make money.
Now on to how to get some newbies to come here… Um, somebody named Elizabeth wrote in… COOLCOOLYAYAYAY!!! T.N.O. is in there!!! COOL! Anyway…
The Ivars Peterson page was interesting too.
I think I’m going to send something in for the Muse contest. I never have, so I should at least try. Something has always stopped me.
12-Was that for the April Muse? What is your real name? I don’t see the name “Fossiliferous Whisk” anywhere…
THIS IS THE END OF THE SPOILERS IN THIS POST!!!
Um, my “spoilers” got a little messed up
24- It’s an ugly Black & white picture of 4 peeps and was sent in by Sarah L., Texas. Which is me.
The May/June issue is SMALL!!! It’s an entire half-inch smaller than usual on each sides!!! My Muse collection has all the muses lined up on my bookshelf, all exactly the same size. This issue just doesn’t fit in.
I don’t think I need to put 10 lines saying “SPOILERS SPOILERS” in front of that.
24 – I entered in the Rube Goldberg machine contest a few years ago. Problem was, those things are so big they were only able to fit three contest winners over 2 pages!
It was fun. I liked the Dave barry article. And the one about the online thing. That conversation with PayPal was funny. People are so stupid.
OH BOY AM I MAD. NOT ONLY WAS THE ISSUE A 1/2 INCH SMALLER ON BOTH SIDES, IT WAS ALSO 8 PAGES SHORTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAUUUGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE !@#$%^&* HECK IS UP WITH REMOVING 1/6 OF THE MAGAZINE!?!?!? I WANT MORE MUSE, NOT LESS!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I can say is: muse@caruspub.com.
31 – I sent a letter by snail mail.
I rate the April Muse:
8 out of 10.
The articles were very interesting and very good. I would’ve rated it 9/10 if it was 8 pages longer.
I mean the May Muse, dangit!
22 – What the heck is a trimaster?
I am SO entering the contest!
Also, I thought the Muses never touch money (see 1/07 issue). What’s up wit dat?
I mean trimester.
Is the blog running on mountain time? If it is, that’s probably why my last three posts were so late!
Carp. I just now realized that the picture I was in was the APRIL Muse. So, If you look in it (in the contest) you will see ME!
35-Maybe this takes place before that, and they decided after that that money was a bad idea.
35-I think a trimester is like a semester, except there are 3 of them every year instead of just two.
The quote was by Samuel Beckett, I noticed. My dad had big black book about him, I think. And I used to call it the Beckett-Booket. And then, by accident, I tore off one of the pages with pictures in the middle. So that is how I remember him .
35 – I noticed that too!
Now you see why they never touch money.
I back-ordered the April issue so I’ll now have it.
That side article “under the spell” made me seriously think about MuseBlog and my C+ in Algebra 1. I won’t be spending as much time here until the summer because I need to do math!
Huh! It reminded me of MuseBlog too, except for the fact that when I have something better to do, I don’t come on here. Just when I’m bored.
Well, I’ve had that C+ for most of the year, but MuseBlog sure is making it harder to get all the assignments done!
Okay so Fossiliferous Whisk is also SM2K and got in the contest in the April Muse? Cool!!!!! *Adds what Fossiliferous Whisk looks like to memory of all pictures seen of other Musers* Let me see…I’ve seen a picture of PP, THP, E2MB, and now you. OH and I know what I look like. So that’s, um, five. *must go*
This thread is dying!!!
PLEAse HelP THIs DYing thread!!!!!!!!!!!
Man this thread is most definitely, totally, completely, indiputably DEAD.
Not that it should be closed, though.
Red-tailed HAWK
I asked the GAPAs to put this on the “don’t forget these threads” thread, and that’s how I got here, but nobody else has…
I’m here!!!
Um…….what shall we talk about?
The May/June Magazine!
I was shocked about that online game thing!!!
Yea….it sounds so dumb how people would pay good money for something that doesn’t even exist!
That conversation between Julian Dibbel and Paypal was sooooo dumb. JD won the argument, and PP just tried to ignore that fact that he was right. Cursed Paypal……
46 – Don’t forget c+q! And Kiki the great’s photo in the muse mail Jan 07 issue!
Also, that photo of me is like 6 years old. I look TOTALLY different now.
52-No, I think PP might have a point. If you sell and ship tickets to a foorball game, that’s covered, because you’re selling a tangible good, the tickets, not an intangible good, the football game. But if you sell a UO account, and ship a peice of paper with the password on it, that’s not covered, because you’re actually selling the account, and that’s an intangible good. They don’t cover intangible goods if the intangible good is what’s actually being sold. Or maybe it was because it wasn’t real money, cause at the top it said PayPal couldn’t give him his money back because it wasn’t real money, it was Brittania gold pieces that are completely worthless outside Ultima Online.
41-So did I! That’s three!
46-There’s me, I got a photo of myself reading Muse in Muse Mail! Alan D. (Don’t zap that, GAPAs! The HG2MB says you can supply your last initial! But you knew that…) That should make… 5 minus 1 because the E2MB photo is out of date, plus 2 for c+q and Kiki the Great, plus one for me, makes 7! w00t! You now know what 7 different MBers look like, and would (I assume) recognize them if you met them on the street! w00t again! Why does w00t always have to be an exclamation? That’s something to think about… Ojkay, I have to wrap this up cause it’s 9:55 here and my dad gave me two minutes… Bye!
54- But if you sell the piece of paper, not the account, then they would cover that?
55 – That’s what I was thinking.
54 – Ooooooh! Which issue were you in?
55-Probably, but he isn’t selling the piece of paper. I think. And it still wasn’t real money! 57- Lemme check.. *goes off to check* March 2007! *recieves random whim* Maybe I’ll change my name to Ligers-rule Man//? Or something about ligers… Suggestions, please? *RANDOM WHIM!* Who is entering the contaest? Or should that be on the polling place?
58 – Cool! Though I can’t exactly see your face because it’s reading everybody’s favorite magazine!
59-Yeah…
This thread is dying…
Dead thread dead thread dea thread dea thred dead thead dead thread dead thead…
I think it only qualifies as a dying thread if nobody visits it for several days.
63- Okay, if nobody (not counting this post) posts here before June 15th, I will take steps to save a dying thread…
I POSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 hee hee
Half an hour before your deadline too!
You did that just so I wouldn’t tkae steps! That was a Pointless Post!!!!!!!!!!!! *fines E2MB 1,000,000,000 boxes of virtual choklit* Ha Ha! I am a PoPoPoer! *fines E2MB 1,000,000,000 pieces of virtual choklit* And don’t let uit happen agIMN!
67-When did YOU become a part of the POPOPO??? I didn’t hear about this. It’s fine you fined him, but the choklit goes to the POPOPO, not you.
68-all you have to do is declare yourself.
“I am a PoPoPoer!”
And it’s the PoPoPomen/women who EAT said virtual choklit, so i don’t see that it really matters. *takes some of the choklit from koko du pelle and nibbles*
67 – Congrats on being a MuseBlogger for an entire year! You came on June 11, 2006, and now, 369 days later, you can wear the badge of honor that states “I have been on MuseBlog for an entire year!” *pies*
70-Ooh! *puts on badge* Of course, I was on MB off and on for that year…
69-“Titleless”? Your title is Titleless, and therefore, you are notv titleless!
71- That’s the point, I think.
72-Oh. *pies*
Weird. It’s been 14 posts since anyone has said anything about the May/June issue.
Since the new Muse issues have shrunk considerably compared to the old Muse issues, I dub this era of Musery “the age of the mini-muses”.
74-Yeah, it really got changed.
*pies whoever made muse smaller*
I remember at first, it felt too small. Then when I compared it to other Muse issues, I was shocked. I felt like I was holding a tiny replica of a Muse issue, not an honest-to-goodness Muse.
But at least Muse doesn’t repeat issues. Kids Discover does, and it’s ticking my friend off because all the new issues he already has.
Jeez! I just got a subscription! Who made it smaller? ROBERT! Are’t you one of the makers of Muse? Why did you make it smaller?
Koko du Pelle, where is your piccy? Oh no, that was another Muse, not this one . . .
77 – Wait! I just figured it out! Robert isn’t the culprit!
If you look at the March 2007 issue (the last mega-Muse), and look on page 2, you’ll see the staff listed. Diana Lutz is the the Editor in Cheif, Grand Pooh-bah, King and Tyrant, and so on and so on. If you look on page 2 of the April 2007 issue (the first mini-Muse), lo and behold: Diana Lutz is no longer in charge! Ramona Prokopiw is the new Editor in Cheif, Grand Pooh-bah, King and Tyrant, and so on and so on. I highly suspect that she is the main culprit.
Koko du Pelle’s picture can be found in the March 2007 issue of Muse on page 6.
Sorry — I’m not in the driver’s seat at Muse. I just write part of the Q&A column. The shrinking issues were a surprise to me, too.
A lot of magazines have gotten smaller in the past few years. Publishers do it to save money on paper and postage (lighter magazines cost less to mail). The publishing industry as a whole is in a big financial bind just now, largely because people just aren’t buying as many magazines as they used to. They have less time to read, and they’re reading more stuff on the Web. With less money coming in, publishers look for ways to cut costs. Unfortunately, making your magazine smaller virtually guarantees that even fewer people will want to buy it. So circulation falls even more, and publishers cut even more costs, and so on.
Someone on the blog recently mentioned that National Geographic Kids Kids Discover had started republishing whole issues. If so, that’s clearly part of the same phenomenon.
If you’re upset about smaller Muses, I’d say the Muserly thing to do is to tell the publisher.
I sent a letter in a while ago. I got their typical check-in-the-box postcard reply, along with a note that says they wish it could be longer too. They didn’t say why it shrunk, but cutting costs does seem to be the main suspision.
National Geographic Kids repeating issues? That can’t be. They always have “coolest new inventions of this year” articles, reviews of the newest movies, and other stuff that couldn’t possibly be reissued.
Kids Discover is repeating issues, though. I have some very old issues of the magazine from about 10 years ago, and my friend who currently subscribes is starting to get all those issues. What ticks me off is how in the old issues, they say they never repeat issues in the past, present, and future. Now, on the new repeated issues, it no longer has that claim.
My mistake — I meant Kids Discover.
A few more facts to work with: As required by law, Muse publishes its circulation figures (the number of copies it sells) every year in the November/December issue. (In 2006 it was on page 47.) By taking that number and multiplying it by the cost of an issue, you can figure out how much money Muse has coming in. That’s the budget. Everything the magazine does has to come out of that money, or the magazine goes into debt. By looking at the circulation statements in back issues, you can calculate how things have been changing over the past few years. That’s how to think like a publisher.
Interesting, no?
81 – *gets out all November/December issues he owns*
Muse income in
1998: $2,194,272.00
1999: $2,281,425.09
2000: $1,989,607.62
2001: $2,044,074.06
2003: $2,293,887.75
2004: $1,692,449.01
2005: $1,977,705.45
2006: $1,669,106.25
It doesn’t seem to be terribly in trouble.
No? Income dropped by more than 25% in the three years between 2003 and 2006. That doesn’t sound good to me.
And we don’t know what was happening to costs during that time. Postal rates went up. Paper? Rent? Salaries? It’s hard to say.
What are the circulation figures, by the way? How many Musers were there in all those years?
83 – Yes, in 2004 the sales were bad, but in 2005 they were back to normal. In 2007, the sales might go back up.
Let’s hope so. Meanwhile, though, the magazine has to get by on less money — and Musers have to get by on less magazine.
Oh dear. I suggested in my letter (that I just wrote) that perhaps it was the fault of Bunnius Evilus. It doesn’t seem to be the case.
Yeah! The shrinking Muse is caused by Romana Prokipiw, who maybe thinks Diana was making Muse too long. So she shrunk it. Though to be honest, I hadn’t noticed it shrunk.
87- I would never have noticed, except E2MB pointed it out. Heheh.
88 – I didn’t notice it myself for about 2 1/2 months.
I thought it didn’t feel as big all along. It used to feel like you were actually holding something important, those few inches meant something. Now it feels like a travel-sized mag!
AHA and did Muse think about kids carying these around??? I might not carry them around if they are any smaller. I hope the people in charge there are looking at this page to see our disappointment.
They know about the blog, but I don’t think they ever come here. Your best bet is to tell them using the magazine’s little-known online e-mail form.
(87) The past tense of “shrink” is “shrank.”
90 – I know. Muse, back when it was heavy, felt big. Now those lost ounces make it feel small. Too small. Muse has lost it’s weight appeal.
Maybe if we all submit complaints and promises to advertise, they’ll make it big again.
But still there will be a few in our collections of the small size! HEY they could be valuable if they do go back to the big ones!
But really it feels like a travel size.
91-Okay!
RtH
94 – Yea!!! The small Muses could be collectibles!!!
Unless, of course, the Muse issues stay small forever, in which case the big Muses will become collectibles.
95- *sniff* Do not speak to me of that!
96 – I was talking to RtH.
97- Good point.
(93),
It can’t hurt, but I’m not sure that MBers’ promoting the magazine adds up to much in publisher-style arithmetic. Let’s see…I guess there are about 40 active MuseBloggers. If each of you recruited three new subscribers, that’s 120 new Musers. At about $30 per subscription, the publishers would get an extra $3600 a year. I’m sure they’d be happy to see it, but it wouldn’t solve the magazine’s financial problems. According to E2MB’s calculations in comment 82, it would take at least 100 times that much to make a dent.
99-But if we could convince enough people to drop off because of being smaller!
100- Then it would go out of business, just like my dad’s maritime magazine. And I would HATE that.
99- *begins to scheme* It’s worth a try. If I meet another Muser who is not a MuseBlogger, I’ll ask them to advertise and direct them to the blog.
101-No he means to get new people to get the mag to boost their profit. But getting more bloggers would be nice.
102- I know. Direct them to the blog so that they can join our grand scheme.
The last post that had anything to do with th May/June Muse was Comment 58. This comment I’m posting is 104 (I think). 104 minus 58 equals… 56. It ha been 56 posts since anyone talked about the May/June Muse. Unless you count 59 and 60.
Well, we’re good at keeping on topic, aren’t we?
We need to get this thread back on topic. The same thing happened to Expeditionj for the Scribblemaya.
106- But why? We are having a nice conversation, why break it off by on-topic-ness?
Seems to me this discussion is sufficiently Muse-related and was, after all, prompted by the diminution in size of the issue in question.
I tried to get someone interested in Muse yesterday, but he wasn’t very…
108-But it wasn’t about the May/June issue.
110-But it was smaller!
w00t I love last post more than first! I hope the GAPAs close this thread now!
Why should we close it? People might still be discussing the May/June 2007 issue a hundred years from now, for all we know.
112-Oh. I thought you always closed a thread when the new one came, but maybe not…
(113) In the case of sequential series, such as parts 1, 2, 3, we close threads to avoid any more confusion than what one should expect of an MB thread, whereas this is more of a free-standing subject.
114-How true. You close Part 2 of the random thread when Part 3 arrives, but you don’t close the May/June 2007 Muse discussion when the July/August 2007 Muse dicussion arrives. And you’re right, they might still be discussing the May/June 2007 issue in 2107.
115 – We’re actually more discussing Muse’s diminishing size.
This isn’t the first time Muse has lost some bulk. The first blow came in 2002, when the publishers announced the December issue would no longer be published. We went from 480 pages of Muse-filled goodness a year to 432 pages. Now in 2007 we’re down to only 384 pages per year, and the pages are smaller too. This is not looking good.
Actually, that’s not quite correct. We’re only getting 360 pages of Muse-filled goodness a year. That means we’ve lost 120 pages of Muse yearly in just half a decade.
*sob* Don’t they know that we all want more, not less?
I wrote a letter, and they sent me back a polite email, but I don’t think that they’re going to publish it. Despite the fact that I included my brilliant HPB theory.
118-What’s your theory?
119- That there are two species, Nicegoodus and Evilus, that look exactly the same. You seriously didn’t know that? :wideeyes:
I sent them a suggestion that we musers could write short articles for them so they could fill up those eight pages. mostly i tried to make them feel a bit guilty.
120-I wanted to make sure it was the same theory.
121- aren’t a lot of us writing stories about the muses? Couldn’t they have the 8 pages filled with our stories AND articles? It could be pretty interesting and we could sorta meet the people we meet on muse blog
I explained your bunny theory to one of my friends. This was after she was wondering why I drew HPBs everywhere, but wrote “Beware of the bunnies – they are evil” on a note, which had pictures of HPBs on it. As this was in the middle of a german lesson, it was a difficult feat. But she understands now.
124- Did you have to explain in german?
125- Sort of.
126-How do you say hot-pink bunny in German?
127- Erm . . . bunny . . . uh . . . I think it begins with h . . .
My mother would despair of me. I can’t remember what hot is either, and I never learned pink.
According to Babelfish (which must be handled with care), “hot-pink bunny” is “heiß-rosafarbenes Häschen.” The plural is “heiß-rosafarbene Häschen.” I assume that’s in the nominative.
Heiß-rosafarbenes Häschen sounds a lot more like it’s something important than hot-pink bunny.
Hot-pink bunny in Spanish is “Conejo de color rosado brillante”
(131) Boy! By the time you managed to shout out a warning in Spanish, it would be too late.
(130) (For those who know even less German than I do, “ß” is a sort of abbreviation for “ss.”)
Again according to Babelfish, rabbit is Kaninchen, hare is Hasen, but bunny is Häschen. Rosafarbenes just means “rose-colored.”
132- I knew that. (The ss thing.) Kaninchen. Yeah, I remember now.
I’d say just HPB in Spanish, which would sound somewhat like achay-pay-bay. Much easier to say, and if we get the name internationalized, everyone would know what it stood for!!
Is the shrinking thing the cost of printing so many pages or paying people to write articles? Because you could do part of it online or through emails or something.
btw, i wouldn’t know about any of this because i renewed it and it hasn’t come yet…i’m wondering if it got lost or something, but this is the first time i’ve renewed after missing a couple issues…usually i renew before the time runs out. How long does it generally take?
135- Not a bad idea, really. Maybe I’ll go write them another letter now…
123- Well. I suppose it’s possible, but Muse isn’t really a fiction mag. That’s what Cricket is for.