January 2008 Incredible Morphing Chameleon Thread

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116 Responses to January 2008 Incredible Morphing Chameleon Thread

  1. The Man For Aeiou says:

    still?

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  2. groundhog22 says:

    Still publishing? Ok…
    Anyone who wants to get their poetry published can enter the Creative Communications poetry contest. Just google “creative communications” and you’ll find their site on the first results page. It has all the contest rules and whatnot on it, and you can even submit your poem online if you want to. If you win, you get a free copy of the book that they publish all the winning poems in. I entered once, and won! Well, not the grand prize, but my poem still got to be in the book!

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  3. Beavo (and such) says:

    Publishing? Still? *gets pied for repeating for the third time*

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  4. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    If you’re tired of talking about it, change the subject.

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  5. Beavo (and such) says:

    How about cucumbers? (Kidding.) (Maybe.) (Unless you actually want to talk about cucumbers.) (Well, it’s an idea!)

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  6. Beavo (and such) says:

    Cucumbers are green. *nods head wisely*

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  7. groundhog22 says:

    Okay. How about web design, if it hasn’t been done yet?

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  8. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    We can give it a try.

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  9. the pink stalking penguin of penzance says:

    i was supposed to take a course in web design this month

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  10. Cat's Meow says:

    I did a camp on web design last summer, but we really only used the website design thing that comes with Google’s e-mail accounts, and no HTML or anything like that. It was pretty lame. I’m also supposed to be doing robotics/web design/Flash animation and other stuff like that for my math class for the second trimester. I’m really looking forward to that, although not going back to school.

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  11. Faye Beauchamp says:

    Web design! A subject which I know… almost absolutlely nothing about. Shame.

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  12. Cat's Meow says:

    11-Aww, poor you. -pats- It’s actually pretty easy once you get the hang of it. There’s a ton of HTML tutorials on the Internet, and a ton of programs that make it easier to design webpages.

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  13. Kiki the Great says:

    CSS HURTS MY BRAIN

    HTML I’m okay with. Emphasis on “okay”.

    I can design websites fine, I just can’t render them. blech. DREAMWEAVER IS WHAT I NEED.

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  14. kricket says:

    I’m not that great at designing anything, really. :D

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  15. Beavo the Online Stalker Dude Person says:

    13-I’ve seen your website! It’s on the NaNoWriMo site, isn’t it? *stalker beam*

    I’m no good at designing real websites, partly because I can’t find any that let me without having to give all this credit card stuff. Servers and hosting I’m good at though. I have numerous Piczos. And they’re pretty good in terms of design, if I do say so myself.

    Of course, in content, they’re worthless. You can’t even stalk me from them!

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  16. moretrees08 says:

    we should talk about how bad george bush is. As my name implies, we need more trees and less bush! lol.
    Or, we can talk about about something else. whatever you want.Rodert Coontz, you have to publish this.Its something freedom of speech.See ya.

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  17. Beavo the Online Stalker Dude Person says:

    16-There’s a politics thread for that. Although I agree with you, George Bush is something I can’t say without being snipped. And we do need more trees. And more 08. (Just kidding, although eight is my favorite number). But GB and his little friends won’t be in Washington DC for long more!

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  18. Purple Panda says:

    Kiki (13): Yeah, your website is really cool. You made it with iWeb, right? I have that, though I don’t have an apple account so I can’t publish anything.

    Robert – how did you make the fan page?

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  19. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    I used Adobe GoLive and PhotoShop Elements — nothing fancy.

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  20. Beavo the Online Stalker Dude Person says:

    Well, it’s better than MS Paint.

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  21. groundhog22 says:

    I was supposed to have an HTML class last year, but it fell through due to lack of interest. Not to be daunted by setbacks such as those, I created a small site from a wizzywig (WYSIWYG) website. Hopefully I will be able to break away from commercialized web design soon and write my own site.

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  22. Locke says:

    hey guys, long time no see
    i got a new email address

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  23. Cat's Meow (who has 4 spdzk points) says:

    20 – Yeah, that’s all I have too. I have GIMP on one of my computers, but to tell the truth, I forget which, since I never really use it.

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  24. Kagcomix says:

    20- meh MS paint is okay once you master it but it’s not great for making things look professional. it took me for ever to do those hands in the peace bunny saga on th off with their heads thread. paint.net isn’t much better. it infuriates me at times and i scream at my dad’s laptop. when i finaly save up enough money for a laptop i am so getting adobe illustrator (wait- i think that’s the one i want…. i get mixed up sometimes)

    my friend goes to this speacial school where she learns to animate stuff. i am slightly jealouse but i adore my highschool and i didn’t even try out for hers so that’s that. but it seems awesome. are there special high schools in the US? what is the schooling like in the US? up where i live it’s public schools(anyone can go to more or less), private schools, and catholic schools.

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  25. Cat's Meow (who has 4 spdzk points) says:

    24-At least around here we have public schools, magnet schools (which are a subdivision of public schools), private schools, and catholic schools.

    Magnet schools (like what I go to) are public schools, except that they do things slightly differently, and may have slight requirements. For example, my current school is grades 5-8 unlike the 6-8 that most local middle schools have, and we are a very project-based school. There’s also an elementary school that’s being proposed that would be a magnet school for kids in the gifted and talented program. Year-round schools would also probably fit into this category. Magnet schools are where kids from different areas choose to go to them instead of their local schools.

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  26. moretrees08 says:

    We need to talk about how bad george bush is running the country. it would jusify freedom of speech. if he has someone come to your house you can just state freedom of speech and they would have to back off. :idea: :idea: :idea:

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  27. Raynpho the Manifold (I am not a dornick) says:

    13- Me too. :evil: I can do the very most basic HTML. Nothing more.

    24- I’ve mastered MS Paint… but teh piccies are not so good. *pleh* GIMP, which I’m actually quite bad at, is much better despite my lack of expertise. :|

    I’ve really got to remember how some of these smileys go… I keep looking back at the HG2MB. The only one I’ve got memorized is teh bunny. :idea:

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  28. speller73 says:

    24 – Here there are public schools (some are pretty awful, some (like the one I go to) are quite good) which have to accept everyone in the area and private schools the majority of which are Catholic schools in my area. The high school that I’m planning to go to is sort of like a magnet school. I’m not sure how to classify it. It’s a boarding school, and it’s open to the entire state, but you have to apply to get in and not everybody who applies gets in.

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  29. ΡÖŞΏĈ says:

    26- Everyone has their own opinion (although I personally agree with you). I think that issue should be discussed on the Hot Topics thread.

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  30. &separate pentity; says:

    24 (Kag)- Yes, there are specialized high schools, as well as your standard public, private, religious.

    I love web design. You really don’t need Dreamweaver to code pretty websites; although I have it, it’s just as easy to do it in Notepad and actually teaches you more.

    I know HTML and CSS, and have been trying to teach myself PHP for months now. After PHP I’m moving on to JavaScript. Wish me luck.

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  31. speller73 says:

    Everyone here is well ahead of me. I can use the incredibly hi-tech Microsoft Word, and I also can do a little media manipulation using jython.

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  32. NerdAndProudOf It says:

    i know nothing about web design so can we pleeeeeeeeeez change the subject?

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  33. &separate pentity; says:

    31 (speller)- You can actually code HTML in Word, if you don’t mind it autoformatting and pwning you whenever you try to do anything. If you want to learn, I suggest Notepad.

    32 (NAPOI)- Here are some more options:

    a. You can ask a more experienced web designer for tips.
    b. You can leave this thread until the subject is changed, when other people are done talking about it.
    c. You can learn to spell “please.”

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  34. Axa says:

    30) I HAET ON DREAMWEAVER SO BAD. We’re supposed to be using it and class and ugh it’s a bother to figure out since I’m used to doing everything in notepad or editpad. also we’re “learning” javascript a little, but that just means copying it down and I cannot begin to tell you how mindnumbing that was.

    I need to redo my website speaking of which. :c those of you who make websites, what kind of layout do you go for? I always use iframes because I’m a jerk and don’t like dealing with tables but it’s personal preference I think. DIV layouts are good too…man I REALLY need to redo it.

    Somehting that frustrates me about web design is that not everyone is on the same browser i.e. there are still poor unfortunate souls who are misguided enough to be using IE. -tear-

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  35. groundhog22 says:

    Or can’t use anything else because they don’t own the computers that they are using. *ahem*

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  36. 34 – Ah, cross-browser compatibility. That’s the major stumbling block for novice web designers who are used to paper. That’s why you need to conform to Web standards, even if it constrains your creativity.
    Actually, most browsers support iframes now, but you still need to learn to use simple tables. If you want more control over your layouts, get to grips with the gritty details of CSS. You still need to test your pages in several common browsers, though. The easiest way is to upload it and give the URL to

    http://browsershots.org/

    The only problem is that it can take several minutes for the results to appear, especially if you’ve asked for screenshots from lots of browsers.

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  37. 34 – I totally sympathise with your comment about misguided souls using IE, but since they comprise about 80% of your audience, you just have to make your pages work in IE. Actually, if they look OK in IE and Firefox, that covers most of the world’s browsers.

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  38. Axa says:

    36) yeah, tables are more useful but I’m also very lazy…XD I understand what you mean though, exactly why I’m taking an actual class now in school to reinforce my knowledge of everything, especially CSS.
    I’m testing that site out right now actually…hmmm

    35) lolol I meant like people who refuse to change because they think its better D: Our school computers all have IE too and it’s fakjfa annoying

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  39. &separate pentity; says:

    38 (Axa)- Our school computers have Firefox because we’re all geeks and probably would have hacked into the network and installed it if the school didn’t do it first.

    36 (PB&J)- But if you conform to standards, your site will look dumb in IE, which doesn’t yet comply to all the standards. Version 6 definitely doesn’t, and I don’t think IE7 does either, but I haven’t had a chance to test it.

    For a situation where you’d want an iframe, I’d go with a div instead. Frames of all sorts are deprecated under XHTML, and using divs requires fewer pages if you’re worried about bandwidth.

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  40. 39 – Yes, what you really need to do is use the bits of the latest standard that all the common browsers agree with. It’s a ludicrous situation, but we’re stuck with it.

    I’d use a div and XHTML methods instead of an iframe, too – but maybe not yet. Give it a couple of years for people to update their browsers. As always, you need to check on what browsers are actually being used out there, and what they support. I suspect that at the moment, marginally more people will be able to see an iframe working than the same result done with a div.

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  41. groundhog22 says:

    40 – *sighs* It seems to me that the only other option is to code the pages more than once, so you have different versions for different browsers. That is, if there’s some way to detect which browser someone’s using.

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  42. The Man For Aeiou says:

    41- you could make a link to the versions for the different browser pages.

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  43. 41 – There is code you can use to detect which browser’s being used, and serve up the right version of the page. Guess what? It’s not totally reliable. Some browsers lie about their identity. It also takes lots of development time, and therefore costs megabucks, to serve up different pages. The usual kludge method, that works well, is to design in IE, sticking as closely as possible to methods you know will work more or less universally. You can use most of the XHTML and DHTML stuff, Javascript, PHP and a host of other cool things, provided you stick to the common methods and don’t rely on anything experimental or proprietary. You just need to check it in other browsers occasionally to make sure it doesn’t fall over.

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  44. greekgurl the Latin speakin geek freak! says:

    43- ………I”m lost, but that’s okay, you don’t have to say it again

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  45. groundhog22 says:

    43 – That figures. *rolls eyes* If there was a way to make usable pages for everyone, then that would be just wrong or something.

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  46. Axa says:

    43) But like was said previously, if it works in Firefox and IE then you’re mostly set. I think if you just make sure code is W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) certified then you’re taken care of.

    ‘Course I could be wrong, haha.

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  47. 46 – I think I’d also add Safari to the list, to avoid annoying Mac users. Current usage is only about 2% overall, but it has a disproportionate following among the style-obsessed.

    44 – It’s fine that you don’t speak HTML. You speak Latin, and in many ways, that’s better. :smile:

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  48. The Man For Aeiou says:

    47- plus Safari is coming for windows!

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  49. groundhog22 says:

    I’ve never used Safari before, is it any good?

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  50. 49 – Up till now, it’s only been available on the mac. I’ve had a look at the Windows previews, and it all looks vey nice, but I can’t see any advantges over Firefox. It’s better than IE7, but that’s not saying much (I’m sticking to IE6 until they let me configure the toolbars). If you just want a lovely browser for your own use, by all means download the beta and try it out. If you’re designing for the Web, there’s not much point wondering if Safari is better until lots of other people using it. As long as it displays your pages without distorting them or turning them pink, that’s all you need to worry about.

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  51. The Man For Aeiou says:

    here is what people use:
    IE (6 or 7): people who don’t get a new broswer
    Firefox: linux and power users
    Safari: Mac people

    there is a fourth browser called opera, but it can look like IE, so you don’t need to worry about it.

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  52. Fat Purple Monkey says:

    Apple just updated Safari and now it works with most IE and Windows based sites. It used to be worse, but it was always way better than IE.

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  53. &separate pentity; says:

    51 (TMFA)- There are lots of browsers. Here are the only two you need to worry about:
    Standards-compliant browsers
    IE

    Opera is standards-compliant, although if you are worrying about it you will have to factor in the large portion of its users who use it on their cell phone.

    I design for standards compliance and then use IE hacks. Usually I can get a passable site that way, although IE users will have to deal with it being a little stupid-looking for them.

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  54. Vendaval says:

    I’ve been using flash 5 and the same age dreamweaver to work on my own site, but I know enough html to fill in the holes. what’s css used for?

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  55. Pentatonikk says:

    54 (Vendaval)- CSS stands for Cascading Style Sheets and is used to keep HTML code purely structural while still having a pretty site.

    And here is a silly little introduction to HTML and CSS.

    HTML and CSS in Thirty Seconds as Performed by Bunnies Penty

    Introduccion
    I am writing this quick and dirty guide to inform Musebloggers on the (very) basic structure of HTML and CSS code. This is not intended as a tutorial because I am a terrible teacher. Onward!

    Why Do I Care?
    No, I don’t care. I know this stuff already. But cookies and hugs if you know where I’ve lifted the joke from.

    Why Do You Care?
    Answer that question yourself. I am not omniscient, nice as it would be.

    Part The First: HTML

    Can You/I/Whoever Just Explain This? All the Jokes Are Getting Dull
    Fine. HTML stands for Hypertext Markup Language. It is HTML rather than HML because the latter does not roll trippingly off the tongue. It is intended as a structural language, meaning that you use it to define the format of a page rather than its appearance. HTML can be found everywhere, providing the basic content of everything from Museblog to Dinosaur Comics to I Can Has Cheezburger.

    Yes, Yes, Very Nice. Now How Does One Go About Writing This HTML STUFF?
    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
    <head>
    <title>You know that title that appears at the top of your browser when you go to a page? This is it.</title>
    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
    <meta http-equiv="content-language" content="en-us" />
    </head>

    <body>
    Content goes here!
    </body>
    </html>

    (Note to more experienced readers: Yes, I am aware that I have left out some XHTML, eg namespace.)

    That’s how. As you might have been able to guess from looking underneath your comment box here on Museblog, the basic HTML tag looks something like this: <tag>content</tag> There are some exceptions, the <img /> tag probably being the best-known. You can tell the difference between these two types of tag by thinking about what they do: the first kind modifies content, while the second kind adds it.

    And that’s it. Now you know HTML.

    That Last Statement is Not Entirely Veracious
    Well, you don’t know all of HTML. You still need to learn about tags and deprecation and what exactly that DOCTYPE thing is, but you do how tags work and when it is appropriate to use HTML. And that’s something very important that many a beginner has not yet learned.

    Part the Second: CSS coming soon to a thread near you!

    Warning: This Tag is Armed and Dangerous
    <font>
    Do not attempt to approach or speak to it. If you already have, cease contact with it immediately.
    This advertisement paid for by Penty for Non-Awful Web Design

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  56. oxlin (e~a) says:

    Penty, I’d like to learn more. I’ve known the basics of tags for a while but not much more…. Teach me, teach me! and the ‘why do I care?’ bits seem familiar though I can’t quite place them.

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  57. Vendaval https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=1153 says:

    Oh Penty, please save me! I didn’t heed the warnings presented in bold on the W3C website, and when I got back here from the typo thread, it was too late! Fortunately isn’t working on the MB.

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  58. Vendaval says:

    hmmmm… the font tag even with spaces has disappeared.

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  59. groundhog22 says:

    Hey, just curious, why should we cease contact with the font tag? I don’t know about anyone else, but I’d rather not have my site all in Times New Roman.

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  60. spazcontrol81 says:

    You know I’m going to change the subject okay.
    Maybe oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pies, lets talk about pies

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  61. Vendaval, who has found there can be no html in his name. says:

    59~ It’s not structural, so the website loses shape, which makes it all floppy and can kind of sag in the monitor like a deflating balloon. Just kidding.
    There are other ways of making fonts, and they’ll give you a better format for a website so it can be updated and restructured. It’s just bad form.

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  62. groundhog22 says:

    Aha. This is what I get for not drumming up support for an HTML class.

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  63. The Man For Aeiou says:

    almost-off-topic-but-not-quite post:
    if you pull a tab is safari, it goes into it’s own window!

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  64. brnzkd says:

    i hate web design. the only thing im good at is wysiwyg designing

    by the way, remeber me? anyone?

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  65. Axa says:

    64) You should use dreamweaver then, that’d help I think. Of course if it’s not your thing it’s not your thing, I understand that.

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  66. 59 – Beware of fonts. You can tell HTML to use Scroobie Bold for a cool effect, and it will look fine on your browser, but unless the person wiewing it has Scroobie Bold installed on their machine, their browser will just substitute something it thinks is close, and it probably isn’t.

    For a fair representation on most browsers, ask for the generic types serif, sans-serif, fantasy, monospace or cursive instead of (or as well as) specific fonts. Cursive and fantasy can come out as all sorts of things, but the others are pretty sure to result in an approximation to what you wanted. If you really want everyone to see a block of text in a specific font, the only sure way is to create it as an image. That’s often done with headers, but I wouldn’t recommend it for body text.

    Why is the FONT tag regarded as evil? Because it goes against the whole intent of HTML. HTML is only intended to define the underlying structure of a page. It was specifically designed to create pages that would reshape and realign themsleves on different displays. Apart from the generic approximations above, the choice of font is left to the user’s browser.

    CSS was developed because people started to want more precise control over layout and appearance. If you know how to drive it, you can create really sophisiticated typographic effects, precise alignment of graphics, and all sorts of other clever stuff. But you’re still stuck with the font problem – if your audience don’t have the font you want, it won’t display.

    Css actually makes your code easier to write, though, because it strips out all the formatting tags from HTML (apart from style tags), leaving the structural code clean and clear. And it’s great for changing your mind. If you have a long block of text with 20 subheaders, using HTML, you’ll need to add a FONT tag to each one to change it to 20 point bold, sans-serif. If you then decide they’re too big, and they should be 18 point, you need to plough through the lot, changing each one.

    If you create a css style called subhead, you still have to add a style tag to each subheader to say it’s a subheader. But if you then want to change all the subheaders to 18 point, you just make one change in the stylesheet. That one change could alter all the subheaders in 200 pages of text in a big site. Now, that’s power.

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  67. KaiYves says:

    I can do a bit of design on Publisher, but Fireworks is just out of my league.

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  68. Alice says:

    *flounders* This doesn’t make any SENSE!!!
    *hides*

    Okay, it makes a little bit of sense. But what I want to know, first and foremost, is how one goes about making a place to put all your HTML.

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  69. beatlesrockr says:

    WEB Design>????? did u know there was this one guy who made an ANIME girl from HTMLS???????? insane u should see the video!!!!
    Peace and pies for everyone
    tHe wEiRDo iN tHE PoLkA dOt HAt

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  70. brnzkd says:

    still on the topic of computers but not web design, I KNOW HOW TO GET PAST WEBSITE BLOCKS. ya know, like the ones that they have at school to keep you from getting into game websites and stuff? well, go to cloakmyurl.com. its a proxy you can use to get onto websites that you normaly cant. although, cloakmyurl.com may be blocked too.

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  71. La Mort: 36 spdzk points says:

    Or, where it says http:// in the web address, just change it to https://
    That’s worked a few times for my friend, who showed me that little trick.

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  72. Alice says:

    Oh, I’ve never been troubled by inability to get to websites, just inability to post on said website.

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  73. 68 – You need a domain, or at least, access to one (a domain is basically a website address). You will get a username, a password, and an “FTP address” for the domain. When you’ve tested your HTML pages on your own computer to make sure they work, you use FTP sotware to upload your HTML to the domain. I use a free FTP package called FileZilla.

    So how do you get a domain? Well, there are lots of companies (Internet Service Providers, or ISPs) that will sell you one and charge you a small monthly fee. In Britain, there are also a few companies who will give you a free domain, provided you use their dialup connection to upload files. That way, they get a percentage of the cost of the phone call, which pays for your bit of their server. You could try a google search for “free website”. It may be that some companies will give you one in return for inserting their advertising on your site – but read the small print, and check with your parental units.

    Basic domain hire will give you a website address that contains the ISP’s address, because it’s actually part of their huge site – eg. http://www.alicespad.megaserver.com. If you wanted the really cool http://www.alicespad.com, you’d need to register it as your own domain name. Guess what? It costs money again. The new name, and the HTML pages of the new site, might be hosted by the same ISP that your old website used. If so, you’ll probably use the same FTP settings. The new name that you’re paying so much money to hire just points to the old pages. Actually, registering a domain name isn’t hugely expensive, but probably not something that’s worth spending your pocket money on.

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  74. Vendaval says:

    I found a hosting company for my own needs that I only pay on a hit by hit basis, so It’s like .02 cents whenever some one comes across my page. It’s worked well so far, but nobody’s found me.

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  75. Beavo says:

    Penty, though arght my master.

    I crave to learn.

    I am not worthy.

    But I bring gifts of pastry!

    Though must teach thy MuseBlogger student.

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  76. groundhog22 says:

    Hey, on a somewhat related subject, has anyone done any programming?

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  77. The Man for Aeiou says:

    76- a bit, but it failed.

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  78. groundhog22 says:

    77 – Ah, that’s gotta be annoying. You try so hard to make it work, then you test it out and something goes wrong.

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  79. Locke says:

    who lkkes legos? i like legos, lets talk about legos!

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  80. Locke says:

    ooh..ooh! I got a better one! How about zombies?

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  81. speller73 says:

    79 – Legos? I eat, sleep, and breathe them considering that the state First Lego League tournament begins tomorrow.

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  82. NerdAndProudOf It says:

    It’s still web design? can we chage it?

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  83. Lizzie says:

    76- I’m taking a programming class at school now, actually – we’re doing Java. And I’ve done a bit in Perl and html in the past, although I’ve never been as good as my brother. I like programming. it’s nice and logical.

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  84. groundhog22 says:

    83 – That’s one reason why I like it as well. I also like creating my own games. I’ve only done Basic, which one of my friends taught me (the Windows version) I also know a little bit of AppleSoft Basic.

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  85. greekgurl the Latin speaking geek freak! says:

    I think we may need a new topic….. how about the horrors of Tech class?

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  86. The Man For Aeiou says:

    85- nah.
    how about just the horrors of ______ class?

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  87. RainbowFish says:

    I go to a school where one of our standard classes (well, for some people) is Computer Science. So far we’ve learned some basic HTML, CSS, and TrueBASIC. I think we’re starting on JavaScript soon. We all have websites that our school very nicely provided to us, so we can put stuff on the *ACTUAL INTERNET!* -gasp- I don’t think anybody except the people in our school actually knows about them, though, because I tried to Google my site and it didn’t work. >.

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  88. KaiYves says:

    86- Math class. .

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  89. Unintended Pun says:

    Hmm. Horrors of tech class. Right now I’m in Bussiness Inforamtion Systems and I sit next to a person who may quite possibly be the most annoying male of the species Homo Sapiens ever to walk the earth. Here is how a typical day might go in BIS…

    Teacher:…and when you are putting info into this you must…
    Male Homo Sapien(MHS): mumble mumble curse curse stupid get to the point mumble…
    Me: Shhh!
    Teacher:MHS! Be quiet!
    MHS:I’m not talking….mumble mumble curse swear.
    Later in the class…
    Me: *typing furiously*
    MHS: *pushes buttons on MY KEYBOARD* Haha nerd!
    Me: Go screw up your own project.
    MHS: No. I don’t care about school, and since you do I’ll win this battle.*pushes more keys*
    Me:*backspaces* Seriously, MHS, stay in your own space. Look here, this is your space, this is mine. Get it? * waves hands around*
    MHS: Jeez why are you always so mean to me. You’re the most evil person I’ve ever met. I didn’t even do anything to you. All I did was try to be your friend.
    Me: Shut your trap.

    That is a mild day in BIS. Luckily it is over in a couple weeks, and I will be moving on to Foundations of Technology. Freshmen are required to take them now. I thik it’s dumb because there is a tuition fee but they aren’t electives and it’s a public school. I still haven’t paid. Art electives and such I would pay for, but I’m not going to pay for something that the school forces us to do while I’m at a public school.

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  90. greekgurl the Latin speaking geek freak! says:

    88- nah, tech is the worst

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  91. Aeiou's Homboy who is incredibly sorry he hasn't posted in months!!! says:

    I have a graphic tech class at my school. We programmed LEGO robots last year. They had to go through a maze! :)

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  92. greekgurl the Latin speaking geek freak! says:

    91- I did that for an RIT thingy i went to with my sister, except we had to drive like, 2 hours to get there and we had to listen to bad country songs the whole way…..

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  93. Kokonilly says:

    Hi guys, I’m BAAAACK! Yes, I know it’s 6:00 AM, but I like waking up early.

    I take Info. Tech. at my school. It’s fun but tough to finish a web page in three forty-minute periods.

    92~ I speak Latin too. Sort of. The online class ended in October or November.

    HAPPY MLK JR DAY!!

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  94. ¡Í߀ƒ! {108 piepoints ©] says:

    91, 93- Hi, Aeiou’s Homeboy! *pies* And Kokonilly! *pies*

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  95. Unintended Pun (10 spdzk points?) says:

    BIS was pretty neat today. We are making slideshows. Today we had practice ones but tomorrow we start the real ones and we have to have them done by friday. I’m going to make mine about MB and flying stuff like birds and planes.

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  96. Unintended Pun says:

    I am in tech class right now. I made a MuseBlog slide on my slide show. It has the Koko for president sign and the blue MH logo.

    I leave school in about 5 minutes. Tech is my last class.

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  97. I wonder- can anyone think of an interesting (and ideally, plausible) method of introducing pies into tech class?

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  98. speller73 says:

    At my school, tech class consists of learning to type and learning how to use Microsoft Word. Of course, everyone already knows this, so the class is pointless. Then there’s robotics, which is really a club but got a class period. It was probably the best class, because there were only 5 people in the class, all of whom were great people. Also, the teacher was one of the best teachers in the school. I say “was” because the state competition was last weekend and we lost.

    97 – Virtual pies or real pies? I can see all sorts of uses of virtual pies in tech class. Real pies would be a bit more difficult to corporate.

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  99.  ¡Red-tailed HAWK!  [9,837 piepoints ©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] says:

    97-Throwing them at them :mrgreen: Hey, when they get something wrong!!! ;)

    Build some fancy machine for throwing stuff, and say, the only thing that would work perfectly would be pies :D :D :D

    Helpful? Maybe not, but hopefully it is…

    While I’m here: Hi Paul!!! *Pies*

    Red-tailed HAWK :D :D :D

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  100. RainbowFish says:

    You could…do an activity where you get ASCII code for different letters and the numbers have been converted into different number systems and switched around using RCIRC and LCIRC and you have to do the opposite of what was done to them and find out what type of pie the letters spell. And then, if you get it right (which would be really hard), you would get that type of pie.

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  101. greekgurl the Latin speaking geek freak! says:

    97- well….. we do a computer project starting soon……. im sure i could incorporate a pie in there somewhere……
    The only reason i despise tech mostly is due to the fact that
    a) I cannot cut a straight line, i can draw and cut on a curvy line perfectly but not straight ones….. I guess they lack creativity.
    b) I have no idea how to design a bridge under $225,000 that can hold who knows how many times its own stregth…. *Growls*

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  102. Cat's Meow says:

    Hey guys – do any of you guys have experience with either Visual Basic or C#? I’m starting work on them for math class soon, but I really know very little abou tit.

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  103. Unintended Pun says:

    Hey I’m in Business Info right now. It’s the last day because in the next semester we have foundations of tech. Business Info is computer typing and such, and Foundations is the building things.

    This isn’t really a class but it’s about technology: My dad has this huge tv that keeps breaking. It costs too much to fix it again so if the place that fixed it doesn’t buy it to resell then we are going to dismantle it. I hope we get to do that because I want to make sculptures with the parts.

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  104. RainbowFish says:

    102 – I’ve had experience with graphics in TrueBASIC…I don’t know if that’s the same thing. But if you have questions, I’d be happy to try to help.

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  105. The Man For Aeiou says:

    Hmm. error meggages that throw a pie at you?

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  106. speller73 says:

    102 – Sorry, I don’t. My programming experience extends to media manipulation in Jython. You can actually do some cool, though worthless, things with it. For example I wrote a program to make Santa’s hat/coat neon blue and green. I think I still have the result saved somewhere.

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  107. nerdz__r00l says:

    truebasic? C? gosh, JAVA and python are the hip languages.

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  108. moretrees08 says:

    Go obama :idea: :idea:! He totally owned in the sc primarys!

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  109. greekgurl the Latin speaking geek freak! says:

    108- I’d rather we ddn’t alk politics here…. if you know what a pie isthen you know things could get ugly……

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  110. lifewithoutacellphone says:

    Yeah, that’s what the hot topics thread is for.

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  111. Alice says:

    Our school has a Fisheries Tech class. Does that count? :mrgreen:
    Of course, I can’t take it ’cause I need to take Fisheries Biology first and I need to take Biology before that and I need to take Integrated Science before that.

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  112. Beavo, Master of 1 spdzk points says:

    Yeah, I start my tech class on Monday or something, and I don’t even know where the H it is.

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  113. greekgurl the Latin speaking geek freak! says:

    112- Consult a map, they’re usually good for finding things.Except when it in my room……

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  114. 99 – Ow! But thanks – I love raspberries.
    *reciprocates with radical turnip and olive pie*

    100 – You could introduce that nationally, not just in tech class. Then the only people to get pie would be the ones with huge brains. They’d end up as a pielite technocracy. Which would be wonderful. Maybe.

    101 – a) Use a craft knife and a steel rule. Scissors are rubbish for cutting straight. Or use a bandsaw. But its’ a bit awkward with paper.
    b) You’re not alone. I35W. Nuff said.

    BASIC – I used to be pretty good with Acorn Atom BASIC. One day, I’ll drag myself into the current century.

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  115. Aeiou's Homeboy says:

    92- I also made pop rockets in wood tech, and mine was so strong, it dented the teacher’s ceiling! Thank God he’s my second-cousin, cuz he would’ve been really mad at me…

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  116. koko's apprentice says:

    we’re going to make balsa wood bridges that have to hold a certain amount of weight.

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