History
By popular request. We’re sure exactly what form this thread will take; that’s up to you. So rev up the time machine, and let’s go.
Date: March 26, 2006
Categories: The Universe
Saturday, 27 April 2024
Life, the universe, pies, hot-pink bunnies, world domination, and everything
By popular request. We’re sure exactly what form this thread will take; that’s up to you. So rev up the time machine, and let’s go.
Date: March 26, 2006
Categories: The Universe
Yay! first post!!!
; )
throws party
one large fire ball is coalecing out of a bigger fireball. inside the smaller fireball is a new galaxy
a LONG time later-
the new galaxy is now a galaxy with worlds. one of the worlds is still a fireball
a Long time later-
the fireball has condenced into a world. on the
world is a lot of molten stone
a long time later-
the world is now green. it has plants and trees and animals and penguins. the penguins are the ruling inteligence of that time.
a while later-
the penguins have invented modern civilization. they have a major econimic depression.
more later-
the depressinon hasnt bottomed out. the penguins sink back into the animal kingdom.
even more later-
a new ruling inteligence arizes. the apes have swung out of the trees and have intvented the spear…
RUN!!!
what history?
( ive bin gone for a while sorrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy)
i luv european history. american history is boooooriiiiiing because we dont have any peasant revolts or kings or battles or anything. also were really young so we dont even have any cool castles or anything. we got nuthin.
revolutionary war is my favourite. and world war two.
(1) that sounds accurate. what does our friend Larry Gonick have to say on this subject?
I loves history! Squee!
Fav wars (does anybody else find that slightly disturbing?) Revolutionary (american obviously), French revolution. Civil war’s pretty interesting, but not as. WWI is ok, but WWII beats it by a mile. And of course WWIII, including the legendary legions of hot pink bunnies, is still in the future. Me likes brit history too bmg. Speaking of which, where’s pb&j when u need him?
HISTORY ROCKS!!! w00t!!!
I love recent American history. I’m fascinated with New York and American culture from 1900-1970.
My history textbook was printed in early 2001, because it cites as an example of a terrorist attack on US soil a 1993 bombing of the world trade center. now, obviously if it had been printed any time after 9/11 it would have mentioned the fact that the world trade center had been knocked to the ground. but on past events its good
(4) and no dark ages or rnnasance
We learned about Jamestown and American history, colonizing, etc. last year. It was really cool
American History has never really interested me, because it always seems like we were doing something stupid.
Louisiana Purchase- The rest of the 45 of the Corp of Discovery aren’t ever mentioned, just Meriwether and his pally William. Bully for you.
That of course, led to the Trail of Tears in a sense. Andrew Jackson is possible the worst man to have governed the US. He violated the Constitution, causing thousands of people (all of whom were there first, mind you) to be uprooted and basically marched to a strange place where the didn’t know how to live.
All that poverty in the reservations? You can thank Mr. Jackson. He ignored out legal system so others could suffer. Congress, of course, did nothing. Sigh.
But for me, Russian, Japanese, and British history (in general) is absorbing. Very much so. I happen to know a great deal on the Russian Revolution, though I’ve forgotten bits…
Oh, and the War of 1812 is by far the most interesting, if I had to choose.
I was born in ’93
9: My textbook did the same thing. For a minute I was like “whoa, this is like some kinda whacked out conspiracy!” but then I remembered that there WAS a 1993 bombing of the WTC and I stopped freaking out. Paranoia is fun!
I like World War II and the Cold War… very interesting…
i like medieval history!
does anyone else want to liv in a castle? *thinks to self: “probably not.” sigh*
Certainly!
Castles are awsome!
Besides no heating or pluming or heathcare…
yay go castles!
who here’s read conneticut yankee in king arthur’s court? Mark twain. hilariously funny. me ♥
i like ancient history. actually anything up to and including the dark ages. after that, it just gets booooooooooooring. except for some of the victorian era. but not much.
i am an ancient egypt freak. i used to know heiroglyphs… i mostly forget.
and ancient mythology is completely fascinating (sp?)!
i ♥ odin + osiris + echo + shiva + quetzalcoatl + the goddess + ishtar …etc.
living in a castle would be amazing. if it had electricity and plumbing. but i would get lost all the time. and it would need a staff. because it would be so huge that it would be hard to handle…. but with full medieval (sp?) decor! hey! i can make a two-story, not-that-huge one on the sims! *makes castle*
Brittish history is pretty cool just becuase there’s more known of it. And of course the Middle Ages are fun with all the trebuchets and what not. But American history is pretty interesting too. I guess we were kind of dumb. And cruel. Okay, we were blood-thirsty idiots, but the nobles of yester-continent weren’t exactly perfect gentlemen either. I can’t believe we were so vile to the Native Americans. We basically came in, took the land by force even though we had absoutely no right to it, ruined it, and let the Natives back on. That would be like someone with T.B. stealing your food, spitting on it, and then asking you to share it with them. I think medieval history is my favorite though. I don’t know why. It’s basically muck, peasants, wars, and guys with over-developed senses of honor. But it’s cool. Favorite wars? Hmm. I like the American Revolution too, and the World wars are pretty hard to ignore. I like the French and Indian war, but that probably comes by osmosis from my uncle who is a total history buff. The F & I war is his favorite, but he’s into Middle Ages too. He’s a frood.
History? I like European history. And learning about the Vikings. And about native americans.
OOO! How could I forget! Ancient Greeks!!! Socrates owns all!!
“I suggest, gentlemen, that the difficulty is not to escape death; the real difficulty is to escape doing wrong, which is the far more fleet of foot.”
That was part of his death speech.
I like History, but I really dislike how it’s taught in schools. Unlike, oh, rocket science, history has the potential to be taught in an interesting way. Rocket science may be an interesting subject, but there’s only so many ways to teach it. What makes history fascinating is more than the information itself, but the way it’s taught. This year, all I’ve done is take notes from our textbook, copy down notes from the board and write discussion questions for shorter supplemental readings. And I’m bored to death.
Last year, we had proper lectures, where our teacher would get up in front of the class and just talk about history for an hour and a half or so. We’d take notes as we needed to, or just listen. And really, it was so much better. I was interested in the material and I felt like I really understood it. This year, I know about the political revolutions of Europe, the US, Haiti, and South America but it’s not remotely interesting. Next year, I’m taking AP US History, so we’ll see how that goes. I’m mostly looking forward to AP Euro though, because AP US is mostly going to be stuff I’ve already covered.
Mark Twain is my best friend. I did a report on him, he actually died a broken, defeated man, but that’s life.
Greece reminds me of the movie Troy. I was like “LAUGH” when Brad Pitt dies. Or Achilles. Whatever you want to call him.
Sean Bean owned in that movie though.
i love history in general, the more ancient, the better, but i don’t like american history and world war II is fascinating. i whish i knew more about african history…
also i luv British history and medival history.. castles knights and dragons!!! someone get paul baker over here!
Do any of you guys watch the history channel? That makes history interesting.
I do.
But before I go into history, I would like to say that I have been gone for two days because my computor bombed. Yes, that’s right. My plant, which I got two days ago, and stupidly put above my comoputor, dripped water onto that cup at the bottom, which overflowed, and dripped onto my computor, where it zapped it, and my room smelled bad, and my compuor doesn’t work.
Anyway, I like the histoory channel, though I don’t have cable at my house, so I can’t watch it.
Of coarse, my least favorite war would be the revolutionary war, since I lost it.
I LOVVVEEE midievel history, and I want to be a historian of some sort when I grow up, and I want to study roman, which is such a cool time period too, or medieval. I also like the frech and indian war, because I won it. And the two days that I happen to be gone, three new blogs apear, while when I’m here, no blogs come on. Dang.
Hey. Me again.
They were right, this thread is just strange…
Anyway, I was reading the Tower of London Or Whatever It Is issue… I like that stuff, if you can call that history…
Gradster(1)
Paul Baker is now present. Couldn’t miss this one.
Apols for regular and protracted absence from the blog. Current excuses :
Playing at Bewdley Museum
Playing at Studley Castle
Playing at a school in the wilds of Middlewich
Making a medieval dulcimer
Making a renaissance guitar
Dashing round the Midlands desperately looking fror lobster claws.
Anyway………………
European history is pretty cool, if you like stories about vicious marauding thugs, petty land squabbles, and oppression of the heroic masses by a rich and talentless elite. Actually, American history is cool too. The trouble is, them thar schools seem to think that there’s only 500 years of it, and everything important happened after 1776. They ignore the few thousand years of native American history before Columbus stumbled on some squalid little bit of Cuba. There should be plenty of history out there, but too few people are going looking for it.
Still, that’s up to you lot when you all turn into archaeologists. Meanwhile, if you want any historical questions answered on this thread, post away. I’m a somewhat imperfect repository, but I’ll do my best.
Note re castles :
Before deciding you want to live in one, pop over here and have a look at a few real ones, as opposed to the Disney versions you get over there. Come visiting on a particularly cold and miserable winter day, and check out the lack of window glass, the inadequate lighting, the ad-hoc sanitary arrangments, the bizarre medical facilities, and the constant threat of attack. it’s pretty much like camping out in bear territory, except that you have a stone tent.
Hello, Paul! I was hoping you’d show up soon.
I’m glad you made that point about castles. At one of several castles I visited in Scotland, the tour guide pointed out that castles were military installations. They were designed to keep territory and people under control, not for comfort. The guide compared them to battleships or aircraft carriers that don’t go anywhere. If you lived in one, you had a job to do. If you lived near one, seeing it up on a hill wouldn’t necessarily give you a warm, fuzzy feeling. The guide talked about Mary Queen of Scots, who grew up in splendid palaces in France before returning to Scotland at the age of 18, and how hard it must have been for her to adjust to cold, cramped, boring, dangerous castle life.
By the way, anybody looking for a dramatic history project could do worse than to study Mary. What a life: crowned when she was just a few months old, engaged (because of a treaty) at six months, wars fought over her all through her childhood, escaped to France at five and was well on her way to becoming queen there when her husband died. Then, still a teenager, she returned to Scotland and intrigue and violence and doom. You can read the condensed version on (of course) Wikipedia.
Axa #12. they tried to impeach Andrew Jackson. they didnt suceed.
Now, a couple of questions just to stir things up.
(1) Somebody invents a time machine, and you win a free ticket to any time and place of your choosing. Which year and place do you pick, and why?
(2) New scenario: You win a trip to the year A.D. 1006, but you get to pick the place. Where do you go if you want to…
(a) eat French fries?
(b) be able to take a hot bath?
(c) find a decent library?
(d) get a college education?
(e) have the best chance of living a long, comfortable, peaceful life?
What say you, O history buffs?
I like History around the time of all the explorers
hmm…id like to liv in a castle with some modern facilities…aka electricity, plumbing, windows, etc. and hey, if i ever end up with $ coming out of my ears, which is highly improbable, ill build such a castle. + you ppls could come + visit anytime. it would hav all the modern convieniences, +…lets see…sry, no pool-i dont like water (maybe it will be more of a desert fortress) oh, it will have a vid game room w/ some neat game systems hooked up to plasma screens, a library of…absolutely everything…lots of gardens b/c gardens are very inspirational…a big room dedicated to musik…+ best of all, a gym w/ a pole vault pit, parallel bars, + a few trampolines (anyone else like gymnastics? i loved it, but i had to quit).
well, that was a fun (off topic) daydream. you know, if i could go visit another era, i still would go for the middle ages (im not a germaphobic, in case no ones guessed )
anyone else hav ideas for castle designs? hey, it could be fun to discuss
24- school history is horrible. i have a test tomorrow on the constitution. the text-books have guidelines about what they can and cannot put in. (our teacher tolde us. he’s cool.) history was politically incorrect. deal with it. it is impossible to learn anything from edited sources. aargh.
25- i think mark twain was in an episode of TNG…the one where data went into the past…yeah, that was mark twain…or was it…i cant remember…
28- i ♥ that channel…and travel and scifi and discovery
29- roman, eh? sco paulum latinum. (but i can’t get the accents on here…)
35-um…
___1: i’m not sure of the exact year, but some time during the olde kingdom, maybe the 5th dynasty of ancient egypt. when the sun temples were being built. i am completely fascinated by ancient egyptian culture. i really want to go there, to the historical sites, maybe an archaeological dig. i had the chance to go when i was younger, but my *coughevilcough* mother wouldn’t let me. this was before 9-11, mind you…grrrrr…oooo if i went there i could have all sorts of cool eyeliner and shave my head and have a mad crazy wig….*goes off on egyptian tangent*
___2: probably back to the future/present. but if i were stuck in that year……
____a: anywhere in france where potatoes could be fried, naturally. or fried in a french manner. were they even invented then? *is confused*
____b: i’d be afraid of anything in the water…any palace would be fine. or the manor of a rich bishop. i’d boil that water like mad, though. actually, i would like to go to the palace of Ethelred II the Unready. because he has the coolest name everrrrr.
____c: hmm, that’s hard. the vatican city? or a palace/manor, againe.
____d: hmm…maybe somewhere in the middle east…or hogwarts. *refuses to believe the people who tell her hp isn’t real*
____e: rural japan. on a spiffy rice-farm. or i could be a bedouin.
in 1006, the brightest supernova ever recorded occured. in the constellation lupus. just letting you know.
i think i mentioned having modern conveniences in a castle in post 21. and it would be cool if it were war-like. i would go mad with power. yay……it would be a great HQ for Mostly Harmless.
#20
absolutly hillarious!
loved the book/watched the movie.
movie was wildly inacurate. at least my version was!
FF (39),
Good answers! Twenty pink-bunny points for Ravenclaw. All except for the one about french fries. No, you wouldn’t have found them anywhere near France 1,000 years ago, or ketchup, either.
Come on, historians. Anyone?
42- yay! thank you! virtual choklit all around!
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ok, enough choklit.
but i could always alter the space-time continuum by inventing french fries in france in 1006…and catsup is optional….i think you gave away the answer to that one…..
how did you know that i was in ravenclaw? *suspicious look*
(1) Somebody invents a time machine, and you win a free ticket to any time and place of your choosing. Which year and place do you pick, and why? Ooh! Ooh! Erm…tough one…i like british medieval type history, but i doubt i’d want to live in it…actually i’m pretty happy here in the present. I suppose if i had to choose i’d go work for ben franklin or something. Or possibly ancient Rome.
Dunno much about 1006. Actually i’m not that good on dates at all. However…i shall attempt the french fry one and say…NOWHERE!!! Except possibly a potato farm. If you know how to make them. I am resorting to the this-must-be-a-trick-question attempt people! Yes i know! Sad! But this i shall do! And please, if you value my self-esteem (don’t bother about grades) wait at least five seconds before you all tell me i’m wrong ok?
Yay!!! The PB&J is here! Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt’sssss….SUPER-SANDWICH MAN!!!!!!! YAAAY!
Right. I’m hyper yes. Ok. How about…what the heck were you doing searching for lobster claws? And…Why don’t you come to america (*coughOHIOcough*) and play for all us eager musers?
Oh, you mean HISTORY questions. WELL then. Erm…So what DID happen in america before 1776? And what happened after WWII, but before i was born (1991). I’m hopelessly clueless about all that…well most of it anyway. And where in the world is carmen sandiego? And what is the meaning of life? And is there any disney movie that isn’t wildly historically inaccurate? And what is the Ultimate Answer, to Life, the Universe, and Everything? (If you don’t know that last one i will personally fly over there and hunt you down and you will be smacked repeatedly on the head with a large book-specifically the Ultimate Hitchiker’s Guide)
FF,
Everyone on MuseBlog is Ravenclaw.
Another hint: to make french fries, you need potatoes.
Related question: If Middle-earth is supposed to be prehistoric Europe, Tolkien did a good job of mentioning only European plants and animals in his books (excluding the mythical and made-up ones, of course). The makers of the LOTR movies weren’t so careful. I spotted some conspicuously non-European plants. Does anyone else remember them? (I’m not talking about New Zealand scenery; the ones I’m thinking about were crops.)
were there no potatoes in france in 1006? weeeird…
Yay ravenclaw! Ravenclaw is definitely the best house.
Ireland???
Corn??? dunno. Oooh! This gives me another excuse to watch it!!! (not that i need one, but you have to tell your parents something…) Are you thinking in Hobbiton? Like…farmer maggot??? hmm….
No potatoes in Ireland in 1006.
As for the LOTR movies, some of the non-Euro-veggies were in the Shire, but at least one wasn’t.
so where were the potatoes?
i am completely at a loss.
hmm…
wikipedia says that they originated in the andes.
and the first european record of potatoes was in 1537 from Castellanos. 531 years after 1006.
that would explain quite a bit…
this reminds me of the mashed taters song:
what we need is a few goode taters
what’s taters, precious? what’s taters, aye?
po-tay-toes (po-tay-toes, po-tay-toes)
boil’em, mash’em, stick’em in a stew…
etc.
Really? When did potatoes come to ireland then?
Hmm…some of the mordor pricklies then? Or some strange lothlorien trees? Or are we talking odd rohan grass? Or possibly a type of Gondorian weed?
FEATHER! I neeeeeed you…*waves hand frantically towards dust bunnies in the corner*
42.
why cant we be in slytherin?
jk my favourite house is ravenclaw
Yay the taters song!!!
*sings at the top of her lungs*
BOIL ‘EM, MASH ‘EM, STICK ‘EM IN A STOOOOOOOO
THAT’S WHATCHA DOOOO WITH TAAATERRRSSSSSS!!!
It’s got a tune. Really. It does. Just because it’s a simple, repetitive, annoying one that people dance jigs too… Anyway, it does. Cuz i say so. So meh. Too bad you people can’t hear it though… *sobs* Oh well.
And basically you sing those two lines over and over.
Ok, it was invented as a form of punishment for lbs of interested big sisters. (i.e. harriet and me.)
*sulks*
I aggree with you there
(1) Somebody invents a time machine, and you win a free ticket to any time and place of your choosing. Which year and place do you pick, and why?
Very very difficult. I guess it depends on how much money I get and if I’ll automatically speak the local language or not.
(2) New scenario: You win a trip to the year A.D. 1006, but you get to pick the place. Where do you go if you want to…
(a) eat French fries?
Somewhere in the Americas. There were no potatoes outside of said continents until after Columbus, when Europeans thought they were poisonous. Actually, the French fry wasn’t invented until a while later, though.
(b) be able to take a hot bath? China or the Middle East. During this time period, both were far ahead of Europe in almost every sense, so that’s where I’d guess.
(c) find a decent library? Again, China or the Middle East. See previous answer. Sadly, the library in Alexandria had been torn down by religious nuts by this point.
(d) get a college education? Can you guess what I’ll say?
(e) have the best chance of living a long, comfortable, peaceful life? If you can’t guess, you get kicked out of Ravenclaw.
If you can’t tell already, I’m a total Chinese history buff. That’s why I love Cartoon History of the Universe and hate so-called ” world history’ classes at school. Mr. Gonick pays proper attention to history of places outside of Europe. School textbooks devote half a chapter to China and India and then it’s back to Greece, wonderful Greece, specifically Athens, wonderful Athens. Greece and Athens are cool, but they’re not so important that they must detract from other interesting subjects as well.
Actually, according to my French book, French fries weren’t invented in France at all, but in Belguim.
Splendid! Fifty bunny points to Ravenclaw. (Never mind that Native Americans didn’t make french fries. You could easily make your own if you had the raw materials.)
Do you include Moorish Spain in the Middle East? That would be on my list.
As for time travel, suppose you could stay between a week and a month with enough local money to be comfortable, language lessons beforehand, and inoculation against dangerous diseases. Let me guess: China, right? But when?
YESSSSSSS YESSSSSSS A HISTORY THREAD!!!!!!!! THANK THE GAPAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would go on le expedition du Lewis and Clark. It would be totally awesome. Except for the whole 9 pounds of meat a day thing. And the diseases. And the fact that, if you had dysentery, all you would get were laxatives. And the whole rotting clothes once you got to the pacific. And the terrible spelling. And living in such a racist, pre-civil-war era. And being stuck on a three year long camping trip with a bunch of guys (except that one who died).And fleas. But other than that, it would be really COOL!
I would stay the whole time. Except if it got really terrible. Then i would nip off into the future for a hot shower and a bit of a chat on MuseBlog:
Gosh! Shannon is so stupid. He lost his tomahawk, four horses, AND himself!!!
Collins and Hall totally got caught swiping whiskey today. Tehehehe.
Gass has Gas.
That kind of thing.
It would be cool if we organized ourselves into houses…what do you think GAPA?
If I needed a hot bath back then, I’d go to Turkey, who already had steam baths, if I’m not mistaken.
Decent library? Churches often had a collection of illuminated manuscripts, but, as they were most likely in Latin, I wouldn’t be able to read them. Most writing was done in Latin until Galileo’s time, because he was one of the first scientists to publish his work for the common people to read.
College education? Impossible. I’m a girl. The Netherlands were pretty good about creating universities, etc, but that didn’t happen until the 1600’s or so and I still woudln’t have been able to go. The Greeks/Romans did educate their daughters, but not in the college/learn to read and write sort of way. It mostly involved learning how to manage a household.
Best chance of a comfortable, peaceful life? Tokugawa Japan. Closed off from everyone else, no wars…’nuff said.
Aaaaah, a place to post my olympics ramblings.
Oh how the olympics have changed. They used to be a festival to the gods, now they’re a festival to the multicultural wolrd. There used to be 5 sports, now there are 14. They used to be in spring, now theres an olympics in winter. It used to be only greeks can participate, now almost the entire world is particpating and they’re encourages the arabs (Joke, not meant to be anti-arab). They used to have judges scoring, now they have computers judge the figure skating. Its creepy……
actually, in the ancient olypics it wasnt just greeks. there were italians and africans too, I believe. But I see your point.
If you want to read a proper history of America (one that includes all the stuff before 1776 as well as after) read Joy Hakim’s A history of Us. Its like, 10 books long, but its really good. She makes its seem really interesting.
Im still thinking about my answers to 35…hmm…
12, Axa, thats what makes it interesting! Singing the Declaration of Independence could have got them hung, and they did anyway. Why? For our freedom! And if it weren’t for the louisiana perchanse, we’d srtill be 13 states. Can you imagine how overcroweded it would be with 295,734,134 people crammed into 13 tiny states? We’ve already crammed 7 million people and 5 million pets plus a wandering coyote into one city…..
Then again, they perchased it knowing the New Orleans would someday and, after a lot of decades, SPLASH! So I guess that was kinda dumb…..
Oh, and Nixon did Watergate probably because he had a mental syndrome. Probably Aspergurs Syndrom. Aspergurs Syndrome can sometimes make someone insecure and paranoid. This is according to my dad.
Though it doesn’t raise someones siprits if you say in a group, “There was a President with Aspergurs”. “Who?” “Nixon”
Another Factoid: John Handcock singed his name big so the king Geroge could read it without his specks. He said when he singed it “Is anyone else going to sign it? Am I the only one that is going to get hung?”
Also, Ben Frankling said “We must hang together, or we will certainly hang seperatly”
Yeah, people have said a lot of funny things throughout History.
Mr. Coontz, if you can award points to Ravenclaw, and belong to MB, would that make you the Ravenclaw head-of-house? because thaat would be pretty awesome.
i think i learn more from muse and MB than i do in school.
we had a history test on the constitutional amendments today. i can name them all and list what they do:
1-freedom of speech & press. right to petition the gov’t and right to peacefully assemble (did you know, that in some countries, you need a government permit to have a gathering of more than 5 people who are not blood-relatives? also, has anyone seen the marches to give illegal immigrants rights? but would they actually have rights if they immigrated illegally?). also, the freedom of religion: the gov’t cannot support or establish a certain religion, nor can it prevent people from practicing “reasonable” beliefs.
2-right to keep and bear arms.
3-prohibits the quatering of soldiers in civilian homes during peacetime.
4-protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
5- if accused of a crime, one must first be indicted by a grand jury. self-incrimination banned. due process of law. no double jeopardy. if the gov’t seizes private property, it must provide just compensation.
6- right to subpoena (sp?) and confront witnesses. right to representation by counsel. habeaus (sp?) corpus. right to a speedy and public trial in the district where the crime was committed.
7-in civil disputes where the amount in question exceeds $20, the right to a jury trial is ensured
8-bans excessive fines and bail. bans cruel&unusual punishment (did you know that death-by-lethal-injection isn’t being used right now? the first injection is supposed to prevent the pain caused by the 2nd(which stops breathing) and 3rd(which stops the heart), but they are unsure if it actually does. doctors are refusing to do any tests on this because when they get their MDs, they swear to do what’s best for their patients, not hurt people, etc. they’re thinking of bringing back the guillotine (sp?). it was invented by a french dentist.)
9-states that the people have more rights than just those stated in the amendments
10-reserves residual powers to the states and people
11-states that states can only be sued in their own courts
12-seperate electoral ballots cast for pres. and vp
13-abolishes slavery
14-makes former slaves citizens of their states and of the US. gives them equal protection under the law
15-voting shan’t be denied to any citizen on account of race
16-provides for a graduated income tax
17-popular election of senators established.
18-bans the manufacture, inportation, transportation, sale of alchoholic beverages
19-voting shan’t be denied to any citizen on account of gender
20- moves inauguration date from 3/4 to 1/20
21-repeals #18
22-limits presidents to either 2, 4yr terms or a total of 10yrs of serving in that office
23- gives electoral votes to DC
24- forbids poll tax
25-provides for presidential dissability and succession
26-voting shan’t be denied to any citizen who has reached the age of 18
27-any raise of the pay of congress shan’t take effect until after the next congressional election.
all 27. from memory. yay. do tell me if i have any errors, though…
(gapa) Middle east to all questions!!! when europe was in the dark ages, the Ottoman empire was in its golden age. (sadly it came to very sticky end circa WWI ) and id probably be able to get a hot bath there to
Yeah, I’d go to China, circa Tang Dynasty. Most Chinese people consider the Tang and the Han the golden ages of China (we’re so special, we get TWO golden ages,) but the Tang came later and is more likely to have some modern conveniences. Fullness, though. Not late Tang, because frankly, that sucked.
Yeah, Moorish Spain is included, and anything North African still under Arab control. Perhaps I should put ‘Arabian-ruled areas’ instead of the Middle East.
That’s one of my main problems with the Battle of Tours. The French kicked out a chance at civilisation five hundred years before they actually got it. Stupid. (All right, that’s not all there is to it.)
Nixon did Watergate because he thought he wouldn’t be caught and that he was above the law. He was caught. Ha. Serves him right. This is an important lesson to all Presidents: You think you can ignore the law? You can’t. Unfortunately, some of them don’t listen…
When I read that post, at first I thought it said Asparagus Syndrome because I read too fast.
Who thinks the Crusades and the way they’re taught in school is completely unfair to the Arabs? The only battles mentioned in my textbook are the ones where the Europeans won, and it says they were fighting to ‘reclaim the Holy Land.’ We never had it in the first place. We were fighting to kick out the Muslims because we were a bunch of religious fanatics.
Crusades= evil. Crusades= poor Arabs, who did nothing wrong except be in the wrong place with the ‘wrong’ religion.
And that’s my anti-fanatic and anti-dead-white-men-centric rant of the day.
(1) Somebody invents a time machine, and you win a free ticket to any time and place of your choosing. Which year and place do you pick, and why?
King Solomon-age Canaan (Israel) please! Main reasons: I’m a Leviite. Even back then, Canaan had women’s rights, and a Leviite woman got all the benefits and status of a Leviite man. Leviites were mostly nomadic holy men and teachers, and played music and sang at the Temple. Plus all the other tribes had to pay a tithe! hehe!
(2) New scenario: You win a trip to the year A.D. 1006, but you get to pick the place. Where do you go if you want to…
(a) eat French fries? Long Island, U.S. (the equivelent location of.)
(b) be able to take a hot bath? Turkey. But they’d probably kill me, so…
(c) find a decent library? Egypt. Ptolomy had tons of stuff stored away…
(d) get a college education? Uh, yeah. I’m a girl. No college for me.
(e) have the best chance of living a long, comfortable, peaceful life? H’m. Tough one, for me–I’m an observant Jew, remember? This pretty much eliminates most of Europe for me, so I’ll choose Kyoto.
My dad has this AMAZING shirt with the first amendment on it. Me loves it. ♥ ♥ ♥
WHO KNOWS WHO RUSSEL BISSEL WAS??????
isnt Bissel a type of vacuum cleaner?
And spot-bot, Calinna
actually, russel Bissel was the comanding officer above Sargent Patrick Gass (the oldest member of the Lewis and Clark Expedition). my history teacher didn’t know that, YET I DID!!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha.
thread suggestion: Chuck Norris. It’ll be a hit!!! PROMISED!!!!
just try it okay? Thank o powerful GAPAs
The First Amendment is the best part of the Constitution. I love it. Uggh… that reminds me. We’re doing the Illinois constitution in school. It’s basically like the US one, only less stuck-up and more populist.
I like musical history.
trivia for you guys (i’ll be tickled to see what you reply)
1.what is the difference between romantic and Classical music?
2. Name one piece composed by Davidoff
3.Who is eduardo dibiase (you’ll never find out)?
4.Where was David Popper from?
these are slightly historical and somem are VERY hard, so be warned… but please try… thanks!
If I could go anywhere in time, I would go back to the glory days of the Roman empire with all of their advanced technoligy (it all had to be re-discovered during the Rennisiance), overthrow the current Emperor and take his place. Then you’d see my name in all of your history books!
I would go to aincent eygpt (carefully disguising my judiasm) and look at what the jews had to go through. Then, fast-foreward to parting of the red sea, and i would see it for myself.
I might want to skip the red sea and watch the parting of the Jordan. After all, anyone abouve the age of, say, four during Exodus died in the desert.
Vhatever.
Sorry, Cello Girl, but I know NOTHING about musical history.
#76: hey, my LB plays cello; maybe ill ask him.
a chuck norris thread? yeah, id like that, then maybe someone could actually tell me who he IS.
dont make fun of me! i cant believe you ppl! * goes to eat some worms, then remembers shes vegetarian, so goes to find gummy worms, then remembers those things hav gelatin in them, so she just gives up + finds some bean sprouts, since they look a bit like worms…*
Who IS Chuck Norris? I’m weith you, Emogrl
*smiles and pretends she knows what everyone is talking about*
76-
1.what is the difference between omantic and Classical music?
well, romantic music is technically the european classical music composed from the 1800s through about 1910-ish. classical is either all music written in the classical style, or music written from about 1730-1820. heeheehee i still remember my 7th grade musick class.
2. Name one piece composed by Davidoff
aren’t they cigars? cello concerto number one. secrets of the jade? or is that a diff. davidoff?
3.Who is eduardo dibiase (you’ll never find out)?
no clue. you?
4.Where was David Popper from?
prague. well, he was born there, anyway…
emogurl- aren’t there any tupes of synthetic gelatin that aren’t made from animal hooves? like that stuff made from seaweed? but it isn’t widely used…
**types
Ok, raise your hands who’s doing WWII right now (or just finished). I shall test my muse CONSPIRACY THEORY! That’s right, i just said conspiracy theory. Who’s doing WWII???
I’m not studying it, but I know alot about it.
*a lot
sry. That bugs me. lol…
Hmm. So far, my conspiracy theory seems to be unfounded and delusional. Does somebody want to raise me from the low pit into which i have sunk and tell me that they’re studying WWII?? (Thanks for answering though bev. It’s just that ur answer depressed me. Have some virtual choklit anyway. *whoosh* )
answers for cello girl
1. the Romantic period came after the classical period (higher music with less trills and chord/double stops)
2. Romance Sans Parole
3. Composer of Reverie and arranger for procol Harem(owns a condo in Florida)
4. Russia actually… or at least that’s what my cello teacher tells me
heheh, cello girl was wrong, or was she….
I have secret news for you ALL….
cello girl IS REALLY hotstuff trinity!!!!!
I am a very cunning double agent. even though she is right behind me. loooking over my shoulder.
*edges away*
grr.
I have been pinching Otzi because to day is oficially RED DAY (that’s historical…ish).
Otzi here. i have Usurped the computer. RUN AWAY!!!!!! Marcus Whitman was a jerk. Mother Joseph lived to have a bin named after……
ANYWAY (this is trinity again) Otzi is wearing no red, s i am pinchig her. and now she’s pinching me……..uh oh, here comes pixie corpse eeeekkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yesterday, we toured the state capitol and otzi heard a rolling cart coming. She said “uh oh, here come the ghost horses” in reality, the bin had ‘MOTHER JOSEPH’ on it. I said “that isn;t the ghost horses, it’s Mother Joseph” and we laughed like loons on loon pills. Pixie corpse almost spewed whatever it was that she was eating (you never know these days, she eats almost anything… including those giant greassy, disgusting, artery clogging things called twinkies)
Otzi in. When we did the mock trial in the state courtroom, I got to be the bailiff. I got to say “Bam bam Bam . All Rise . Court is now in session’ and then “Bam. All rise. Court is now adjourned”. Uh-oh. Here comes hotstuff trinity. Giggling madly……………
Pixie Corpse here, who stole this computer from Otzi who also stole this computer from Hotstuff Trinity. I know squat about history, so I’m going to type the twinkie song (when I’m in an emo-goth rock band, I’m going to make a special metal version of this song).
The Twinkie Song:
Dough, the stuff that makes the twinkie
Ray, the guy that makes the twinkie
Me, the girl who buys the twinkie
Far, a long long way till twinkie
So, I think I’ll have a twinkie
La, la la la la la twinkie
Tea, no thanks I’ll have a twinkie
And that brings us back to dough
Twinkie, twinkie, twinkie dough
(end song)
And, yes, I do know Otzi and Hotstuff Trinity. I’m afraid that it is a hard friendship. They are tres insane.
i have now regained control of this comment that I started. Pixie corpse has hairy legs…
…^^ alright then…
now just insert some f-bombs^, + youve got a total hardcore rock out song!
start musik (…so take that, f****** twinkie…+ stab him through the heart…mrahr!………….. )
ok. i relly am sorry about that one. i hav the most disturbing sense of humour, evidentally.
I really don’t like Twinkies, but ’twas a funny song.
Popper was Hungarian. I play cello too. I know. He was Hungarian.
91- i have a few friends in mock trial…i was never goode at it, though. if i don’t agree with whatever i’m defending, i’ll just refuse to debate it.
92- indeed! dough, it makes that f*****g twinkie…. i’d most definately buy such a single.
OK, 92 and 94, I let those imaginative lyrics slide. But let’s keep the MuseBlog couth. Or should I say, keep it c***h?
Haha. Couth. For some reason, people never say that. Just uncouth. Is couth even a word??? Oh well. I’m gonna start using it now.
I have a map quiz tomorrow in history. All the fiddly bits around south+central america. I think i’ve pretty much got it now though. I just keep mixing up a few things like paraguay and uraguay or however you spell it, and nicaragua and honduras (having new hampsire/vermont flashbacks…aaah those were painful). But i think i’m good…
Geography is pure evil. Meh. Oh vell.
MUSE CONSPIRACY THEORY!
You guys just look at the average curriculum and stick in articles from there don’t you? ADMIT IT!!! ADMIT IT!!! There’s no way it could’ve been a coincidence EVERY TIME. Like…the recent hitler one, and i think the napoleon one was around the right time, and menny other examples throughout the ages of muse. CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY! IT’S A COMMIE PLOT! Ok just kidding. IT’S A MUSEISH PLOT!!! AAAAAH!!!!!!!!! *Screams, panics, and helplessly runs around in circles*
Are we allowed to scream into a mike, “TWINKIE, GO TO BELGIUUUUM!” or whatever? That would make a very interesting metal song… I’d listen to it and put on my nonexistent iPod…
I’m related to Napoleon. According to my aunt.
DID YOU KNOW?
One of William Clark’s classmates wrote this rhyme in Clark’s schoolbook when he was 11. (IN INK. THEY COULDN’T EXACTLY REPLACE IT….) :
William Clark is a spark
and a pretty good shot with a gun;
he left a fart behind in the catch,
and it sounded like a drum.
(96) ebeth, you should hire someone to scream, panic, and helplessly run around in circles for you, you do it so often,
dude, u already told me that ryhme outzi!!!
(100) The American Dream! Why do it yourself—when someone else can!!!!!
Quit calling me Outzi. Or I may be forced to call you poocow.
(102) well actually, i was commenting on ebeth’s helpless drama, but you have a point there.
My cello teacher said that Popper was Russian. I like meeting other cellists though! Moocow, just because you don’t want to talk about about the John the Baptist incident, doesn’t mean tou have to make fun of otzi’s name… *tisk, tisk* ooohh, the 24th is my half b-day… i’m 13.5. Just so ya’ll know, ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHIES SUCK!!! and Lews/Clark rock.
I’m a desendant of Rashi. Don’t ask who that is: The jewish people will know. You can Google it, but you may get a page with annyoing yiddish background music.
#105: mrahr to annotated bibliographies! i had to do one for 10 sources for a doc. film last month, + it was a nightmare!
100-but it’s FUN! Why would i hire somebody to do it when i can do it myself???
*screams, panics, and helplessly runs around in circles*
aaah, bliss.
95- sorry… heh heh. couth.
96- it’s most definatelly a conspiracy.
(108) but what about your reputation? if you dont actually have to do it, then you can do it yourself.
Pixie Corpse her (thought ‘(censored for your protection)’ is another one of my names)Thank you, emogirl for you contributinon to my band fund (ada the twinkie song remix). I was more thinking of something along the lines of My Chemical Romance meets Hawthorne Hights, as in ‘stab me with that [cool it with the curse words — Admin.] twinkie, cut my writst and gouge out my eyes with a twinkie, take that you [deleted here too — Admin.] hippies. DIE DIE DIE.’ I am sooo going to do that as a song once I’m in my emo-goth rock band. Though I would like to contradict something not so hotstuff trinity said earlier. I do have hairy legs, yes, and when I do shave them I normally suck the blood that comes out of the cuts(yes I am like this every day). BUT hotstuff trinity has just as hairy legs as I have. And about the whole thing about Lewis and Clark (I spend every day at school with Otzi and Trinity) but I will sing the Charbonneau song (and I don’t care if I spelled his name wrong). And ask Otzi who Charbonneau is (yet again, I don’t care about spelling). It’s a mix from the Killers ‘somebody told me’ (good band, but, andyway).
Cause somebody told me
That you had a boyfriend
Who looked like the captain of this expedition
But I just don’t know now
(looks at pomp)
Tell me
Who’s your
Father
(Ponp) Lewis!
(c) Hay you can talk? What a minute…LEWIS!!!
This song was made off the pretense that Lewis and Sacagawea were luuvers and had sex quite frequently (I can imagine trinity hyperventilating as she reads this, she has issues with the word [word snipped — Admin.] too) and that Charbonneau’s son, Jean Baptiste, was actually Lewis’s son. More crazy Lewis and Clark facts to come. Ask Otzi for more detail. Other than minor stories by me, the whole Lewis and Sacagawea and STDs thing was her idea.
Sincerely,
Pixie Corpse
(I will eat your soul!!)
Please excuse the typos, my computer is waaaaaaaaaay screwed up right now.
yo, anyone here know how to suggest a muse blog? I’m new to the site people. STOP ROLING YOUR EYES!!!I MAY BE A MORBID FREAK AND KNOW NOTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS BUT YOU CAN ATLEAST HELP ME OUT!!WANT METAL CATAGORY, HELLLLLLOOOOO.
oh dear. that is not good. what is the blog coming to?
(113) you mean a thread? just suggest it.
I know this is like my fourth comment straight, but, please and thank you, I appreciate how much you all like my twinkie song. I will remember you when I make it a single. Alas, my mum will never be able to come to any of my concerts (she hates metal).*roles eyes* My mum goes balisticisimus when I play I Am Ghost in the car. She calls it senseless and toonless yelling. And, well, it kind of is, but it only sounds like that if you DON’T like metal. It’s amazing how many tangents people go off on the history blog. Almost all of my comments aren’t about history. Who cares anyway, I mean, that’s what teenagers do. And if your not a teenager, then fine, It’s whatever YOU do.
Pixie Corpse
Hi there, censcored fyp,
Please restrain yourself when you’re blogging here. It’s a curse-word-free zone.
Using *’s in place of letters so we can fill in the blanks doesn’t really make a difference — since we all DO fill in the blanks. And then we’re back where we started.
If cursing continues, the Administrators will be tempted to use our GAPA powers and zap the comment entirely.
Wow, we’re getting quite dubious for a 10+ mag site, aren’t we?
113-what do u need help with exactly??? Several online books are in the making (Complete lie actually. Ssssh) The Fyne Arte of Pie-Throwinge, by Koko, instructing musers on the techniques of his favorite pastime, Virtual Choklit: An Economic Study, by Ebeth, with three useful sections on how to bribe the GAPA, Insanity: A Look Into The Mind of The Average Museblogger, by A Random Psychologist, and of course the controversial and widely read call to arms for HPBs everywhere, Give Me Some of Those Doughnuts I Bring You, Or Give Me Something Considered Painful, Showing That I Am Willing To Do Anything For The Freedom Of HPBs, While Not Quite Actually Endangering My Personal Comfort Or Safety by Bob.
Metal? You mean like iron, lead, copper, aluminum? Magnesium? That one can be a lot of fun. Or tungsten! That might be my favorite. Yes, let’s have a thread about metals.
Did I swear? Sorry, bad habit. I’ll save it for when I’m the lead singer of a metal band.
Great idea, Pixie Corpse!
Enthusiastic much? Are YOU a metal lover? and Robert Coontz dude, do you even know what metal MUSIC is? I mean, come on, joking about metal music being part of an actual metal group is sad. It’s not as sad as when Celine Dion sang ‘you shook me all night long’ and played air guitar. Tre sad. She needs to stick to pop music.
It’s kinda hard to have a metal thread without swearing, though. It appears that it is also hard to have a history thread with history. Soooo… Who else thinks that the way the Crusades are taught in school is completely biased against Muslims?
Okay, I lied, not last comment. I’m referring back to Otzi and Hotstuff Trinity. They are both very insane. And trinity never pinched me on red day (I wasn’t wearing any red. Hold on, was I wearing red knickers? no, I don’t think so seeing as I don’t own any red knickers. Hmm, can’t be bothered). But I think the twinkie song will make a fine metal song. Ahh, youth, the time where school teachers drag us out of our ignorant bliss. Curse you cruddy teachers (especially my sadistic sixth grade writing teacher). You all are the reason I can’t sleep at night. No, wait, that’s because I’m a vampire. Oh so that’s why my parents get mad at me when I wake them up in the middle of the night. I’m calling to my mcr vampire bretheren (even thought they aren’t really vampires but whatever).
mcr means My Chemical Romance.
Back to history. Things seem not to have changed much since I was in school. Take the rise of Islamic civilization. Whenever the Muslims conquered another country, it was as if the whole area disappeared from the map for hundreds of years. Never mind that architecture, scholarship, and hygiene usually took a turn for the better…
By the way, the only thing I know about crusades is from Monty Python. The funniest part in that whole movie is about to be reenacted for you now.
Clouds open up to reveal God.
G:Arthur!
Arthur averts eyes
G:OH dont’ grovel. If it’s one thing I can’t stand it’s groveling. Everytime I try to talk to someone it’s always forgive me this and I sorry that and I’m not worthy.
G:what are you doing now?
Arthur: I’m averting my eyes O Lord.
G:Well don’t. Just like those miserable psalms they’re so depressing.
A:Yes sir.
G: Your quest is to find the holy grail arthur.
Clouds close with a loud clapping noise.
Monty Python is a comic genius. Especially the bit about the communist peseants. God I love the english (seeing as that I am a quarter english). I also like people from in your pants australia. They are tre awesome. they also have great accents. Didn’t depeche mode come out of australia. Doesn’t matter, they are still awesome.
you know what i like? Horrible History. its a brittish series, i think, but its really good.
is tungston the one with a “w” symbol?
That’s right–for its German name, Wolfram. But back to history…
i knew it!
so, what are you doing up at 12:05?
wait-that’s not related to history.
okay… um… i have to do math hw. bye.
Pixie Corpse,
122: No, not a metal fan in particular. Though in the ancient past that was my youth I occasionally rocked out to Led Zeppelin. So I see the appeal.
Nowadays I hardly listen to music except for when I’m working out — then I listen to mindless pop music.
This was from ages ago but (88) I believe Romance sans paroles was Gabriel Faure, not Davidoff. Beatiful song, though…
anyway it seems as though this thread has been rambunctiously gallumphing off onto numerous tangents indeed. well, History. Howabout Australian history? I dont know anything about it other than that it became a country in 1901. And a few other tidbits. I dont know anything about the Aboriginal people though. Any contributions? Perhaps i will pay a visit to our dear friend Wikipedia.
But Ms Spector!!! Music is good for the mind. Like reading.
You should listen to music. Heres some suggestions:
Jeff Hamilton Trio (Jazz), The Shins (alternative), Pictures at an Exhibition (Mussorgsky, romantic). There is some music that are fun to listen to. And some of it is the type you can listen to while working. Try!
128-actually it says in the commentaries that the peasants are based off the french revolution. The french weren’t commies, were they? Communism came later i think…
I loath and despise pop music. The really sad thing is that rock stars are dating pop stars. Joel Madden from GC is dating Hilary Duff (die you cow), Benji Madden is dating Kelly Clarkson, and Gerard Way WAS dating Lindsay Lohan (she must die).
39/25- or it might have been charles dickens. i always get them mixed up for some odd reason….
119- tungsten. w. sorry, i like doing that. w. w. w. w. ok, stopping.
122- she did that? as my theology teacher would say, “BLASPHEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!”
123- i do! did you know that because of the fabrics imported from the middle east, some religious european arte depicts christian subjects such as mary wearing garments with muslim holy writing on them? look closely at the borders of the shalls, etc. it’s rather amusing.
126- i love moorish architecture! i really wanted to go to spain on vacation, but they’re dragging me to nova scotia. bleah. canadia (yes, i spell it withe another “i.” i like it that way).
134- i love aboriginal mythology. especially the concept of Dreamtime. it’s beautiful. a wikipedia search is indeed goode idea.
ok. and onto another historicalific topic. in my next post. ‘t is dinner time.
Omg today we went to the library and featherstone brought a WWII board game called Axis and Allies and that’s all we did for the whole class. It was pretty sweet. It’s a big map of europe w/color coded soldiers (and tanks and planes). Fun times…
Don’t we have a music thread somewhere???
haha. canadia.
i vant to go to england/rome/sweden. Why? Don’t ask. They’re just cool places.
Monty Python pwns. Life of Brian is also very funny, and it’s quite historical too. If you count “it’s set in sa place vaguely resembling Jerusalem a long time ago” as historical, that is. Oh well. It’s still hilarious.
Australia was where the British shipped convicts a while ago. And that’s really all I know…
https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=244
that one? (Singing?)
or
https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=199
that one (Books + Movies + Music?)
Lemon Curry/Skipper N,
135: You are so right. I should listen to music more. No one else is in the office right now so I’m going to see what good stuff I can find on an internet radio station.
I am listening to Vivaldi now. Violin concert in C.
oooooh, i have two vivaldi cds!
Vivaldi is good music. (I know that’s not grammaticly correct because Vivaldi is a person, but i couldn’t figure out how to reword it…)
Here’s something that fits both History AND the conversation.
Mozart’s driving me mad!!!! Yea, I know he’s dead, but he’s a musician. Musicians are always like, “I want my music to live longer than I do.” But I don’t think it was supposed to drive me MAD!!!
I suppose it’s really my piano teacher’s fault. She’s the one who keeps making me play it. Sorry, Mozart!
145- vivaldi composed good music?
mark twain’s middle name was langhorn…
In the name of Big Birds Panties and matching socks, Pixie, CLEAN UP YOUR LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!! you swear more on the blog than you do at school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DArn!!!! It automatically posted!!!!
12: They do so mention other people!!! like droulliard. And Sacagawea (NOT Sacajawea!!!!) It did sort of lead to the Trail of Tears…but not directly. the Corps did not walk in and say “Hey, you!!! Move!!!!” altough it was a major consequence.
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147: my Social Studies teacher is related to Mark Twain
my piano teacher is convinced that mozart was an alien because mozart “died” young and they never found his grave. so therefore, he had to have returned ot his home planet.
yeah, he’s crazy. in a goode way.
My social studies teacher is seven feet tall and he’s awesome!
Pixie corpse is a liar. i did not make up the whole Lewis+Sacagawea+stds thing. I only read in a book that most of the men on the expedition caught syphilis (Until les captians made them ake a vow of abstinence) (which no ome followed) and that’s why they ran out of trade goods, and, regrettably, I shared my information with moocow, who, is as we all know, Radio Moocow. So of course she said “So Otzi, tell me about how everyone caught syphilis” at lunch when the male maths teacher ws right behind her. He said “Hi, moocow”
All of us ayces laughed like loons at a loon party AND on loon pills, especially when moocow lookedup and said
“Please (name withheld), I’m eating”
If I had a time machine that could go anywhere in the past, I’d point it somewhere (somewhen?) between the famous battles and adventures, when not much seemed to be going on, at least in hindsight.
Those are the times most puzzling and mysterious in history. They don’t show up much in history books. But these periods of peace would give a time traveler the opportunity to wander around a bit without worrying too much about getting blown up or impaled or waylaid, or about starving in some blighted landscape or catching a plague.
The wandering TT (time traveler) could then go talk to regular folks, to farmers and nobles and merchants and priests. TT could learn something about how people thought, what worries they had, what surprised them, how secure they felt, how well they ate, etc.
At the very least, this would be interesting in itself. Historians sometimes argue about whether people in the past were basically like us, or whether their minds were so different that we can’t “identify” with them. I would love to know, tho I’ll confess I’m biased toward the idea that we’re all essentially alike.
Studying peace, the TT would also be able to better understand the next crisis, war, or the like that came along. When a problem arose, how well were people equipped to handle it? What did they know and not know? What did they assume? What were their blind spots? What did they think was important and what was not so important?
I could go on and on like this, but will give it a rest for a while, except to add that after you’ve read a lot of history, you begin to wonder about the present in the same way… and you don’t need a time machine to study it!
Oh, yeah! I get it! Somebody had to have enough quiet time to invent pie before I could throw one!
BOO.
haha. w00t go koko! lol
larry g-zat makes sense. No point getting killled in the past, is there?
How would that work anyway? If you died sometime in the past ,would that mean you just never existed, or would time sort of go on in a loop, like ur born and disappear in the same way? What do you peoples think?
I thank you whoever invented pie
What bugs me is the very idea of time travel. Like in Harry potter—Wouldn’t HArry and Hermione past become the future and go back to help the past who would become the future and it would continue on forever???
If I went back in time I would get somebody to draw a proper portrait of Sacagawea so people would stop trying to guess what she looked like.
Yeah, but, Mr. Gonick, what fun would that be? I wouldn’t want to be walking around, talking to people, and learning things, god forbid. I’d so much rather go during a war and be in the fight, throwing pies at everyone, on the other side and mine. THAT’S what you do with a time machine.
Larry G – That is a very interesting perspective. I do find people in history more interesting than events.
If I had a time machine, I would love to go back to New York anytime from the 1890s to the 1950s. Those were the times that set the stage for the present. In those decades the country changed into what it is now, and I would love to see that transition. The Great Depression, World War II, the TV. None of these were good things, (with the possible exception of the TV) but all of the things changed the world (with the possible excpetion of the Great Depression and WW II). It would be amazing to really experiance what the people went through living in that time period. And New York has always been the center of it all. I’m a Jersey girl, so nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise.
By the way, Kokopelli, your pies usually seem to be whipcream. What about blueberry?
I agree that sometime between wars would be nice to visit. Then you get simmering internal conflict within the inner reaches of the government, because it’s human nature to have to be mad at someone.
If I sound bitter, I’m not. I really do agree with Mr. Gonick.
reply to kokopelli: life without pie wouldnt be much fun, would it? especially not for you
140 one of my direct ancestors got shipped to Australia for stealing 24 umbrellas from th Lord Mayor of London. no joke. if Ive already told that story here, apologies.
mmm Umbrellas.
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J I dont know how to make a proper one.
Rosanne- Yay! Vivaldi! Much better than what I suggested.
hmm, I just went to the rennaisance festival and it got me thinking about the past. I think what Larry Gonick had to say was right on the mark. It was funny thinking about how the R.festival is supposed to be a renactment of those times, but like, how can you understand the daily life of something that happened so long ago? I mean we have record of the important stuff like wars and inventions and discoveries, but tha average life of average people was unremarkable to people back then, of course, so no one would write about it. So how can we know what it was like? Im trying articulate my ideas well, but its hard cause i have a henna tattoo that makes it uber difficult to type so ill just post this now.
Kokpelli, why pie? Why not cake, or buttered toast, or water ballons? Just wondering……..
i love reading about the Donner Party. they took this “shortcut” to ge tot california but it really was longer and they couldn’t get over the Sierra Nevadas and they ran out of food so they had to eat each other. ewwwwwwww.
I would have waited until I was about to starve to death and then thrown myself off a mountain, yelling: “HAHAHAHA!!!! YOU WON’T GET TO EAT ME!!!!!! I WILL BE TOO FAR DOWNSTREAM FOR YOU TO FIND MY BODY BEFORE IT IS WATERLOGGED AND ROTTEN!!!!!”
And that is my input on the Donner Party.
The Ayces and I had a bit of a laugh at school by setting the backgrunds on two school computers to Lewis and Clark, so that there were really ultra creepy portraits staring at us the whole science lesson.
Bloody funny, though.
i like vivaldi.
those pics of lewis and Clark were scary potatoes
Russian History.
Anastasia died, she did not survive. she was asassinated by revolutionaries
w00t. I KNEW THAT!!!! BEcause I HAPPEN to have the Russian history spokesperson as a cello-crazy Ayce Member. I am the official Ayce Lewis and Clark Spokesperson.
Clark kept on refferring to Jean Baptiste (charbonneau) (NOT LEPAGE) as “Pompy”, “Pompy-wompy” and “My little danseing boy Baptiest”. A little creepy? Yes………pedopille? naw. (I Think)
Zallie (62),
Japan wasn’t Tokugawa in 1006 (or for another 600 years, I believe), but it sounds pretty nice. You could have met Lady Murasaki, the world’s first novelist!
In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. Many races believe the universe was created by some sort of god, but the Jatravartid people of Viltvodle Six believe that the whole of creation was sneezed out of the nose of a being called the Great Green Arkleseizure. The Jatravartids, who live in perpetual fear of the time they call the Coming of the Great White Handkerchief, are small blue creatures with more than fifty arms each and are therefore unique in being the only race in history to have invented the aerosol deodorant before the wheel.-Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
I did that from memory. Oh dear.
111-Honestly, man, you hav way too much TIME on yore hands. Really. You know, so what? Louis and Sacagawea are a) dead and b) entitled to some privacy. Wait a minute-you shave your legs?! I’m not even trusted with pointy objects, let alone sharp ones.
Back to history. Yes, America is severely biased against Muslims, Arabic Muslims in particularly, and there’s nothing students can really do about it. My unit on Israel is really pro-Israeli, which I did not understand until I learned that my teacher, that noble bast-ion-of democracy, had previously lived in Israel. That’ll do it, I’m afraid. Actually, the whole point of teaching history to people is getting privileges so you can rewrite it and bring glory to your ethnic group. The best way to avoid this is to not have one. Quod erat demonstratum.
i have a muslim friend. she’s also a feminist. very cool.
what bugs me is that devices used to “travel” to different eras are called “time machines.” a watch keeps time, could it not also be called a “time machine.” and this time travel stuff happens all the time. but only in one direction. i recently read an article about space-time on one of my SAs. i must finde it. if “traveling” “backwards” in time were possible, would that not mean that all things are happening at once and this “time” thing is binding us to some sort of structure? time is weird. yet soooo cool. so, if that happened, would this moment (and the next and the next and the next…) be happening continually? hmm.
174) I’m Jewish. I have family and friends living in Israel, who are living in constant fear for thier lives. I don’t hate all muslims. They don’t hate all muslims. I know some muslims. Most of them are just people like us. It’s only the crazy homicidal ones I wouldn’t want to be in the same room with. I have nothing against most of them, as long as they’re not trying to kill me.
My family has Muslim friendss that own and work at the pizza place. They used to think jews were dirty untill they met us.
OK, we’ve got 5 jews so far, fueling the stereotype that jews are smarty-pants.
147- I know where he got the penname Mark Twain.
HIIIII KOKO!!! I has a sticker with you on it. Yay me!
yeah…it’s always the small group of idiots who make their larger group look bad in the eyes of the public. such people should be rendered inviable.
I’m doing a project on how biased and unconstitutional the Patriot Act is. It violates basically all of the Univeral Declaration for Human RIghts and most of the United States Constitution.
(And for those who say the Constitution only applies to citizens, you are partially right. Some parts refer only to citizens, but alot is just as explicit about saying Person instead. There is a difference between a Person and a Citizen)
The US in it’s present state sucks. I want to move to England. There I will subsist upon weetabix,Ribena and—err—spotted dick. Yummm.
I once wrote a history of carpet in English class because I had no better ideas…in my (history) book, carpet started long ago in frigid Puceland (an island that we know not of because it is under Greenland–don’t ask how), where everyone’s feet always were cold. During a storm late one night, a sailor from Puceland’s decrepit old boat, near destroyed by sea serpents, sea zombies, and of course the storm, washed up on a deserted island just when he thought that all was lost. The ground on the island felt odd, but it was too dark to see, and he was too exhausted to care, so he curled up and went to sleep under a tree. The next morning, though, he did care–the ground was multicolored and fuzzy, and would make a good floor for the people of Puceland! Determined to bring it home to his freezing island, he used wood from the trees to patch up his boat and set sail for home. Halfway there, he and the boat were swallowed by a whirlpool, and carpet again sank beneath the murky sea of undiscoveredness (a word?).
Three hundred and forty-two years later, exactly, the fussy Pucelandish empress decided that she had had enough of COLD FLOORS and sent a fleet of ten ships to look for something better. The four that returned brought possible materials that were tested in the empress’s throne room in this order:
Banana leaves–they eventually dried out and got all crunchy; bad idea.
Pink Bunnies–being still alive, they ran away and would let no one step on them.
A sleeping tiger–they had never seen a tiger before, and when they saw this deeply sleeping bloke, they had no idea that once someone stepped on it, it would wake up and get all ferocious on them; this cost the empress a few attendants and the royal Chief of Paper Cups.
Blue carpet!!!
Carpet had been discovered once again, and soon was harvested from the carpet-covered island and widely used throughout Puceland. Fortunately for us, one of the empress’s ships that never returned had discovered the carpet had been taken over by English pirates, so carpet as well spred to our world…and we still have it today. So, if anyone tells you that carpet isn’t harvested from a remote island in the Arctic Ocean…DON’T BELIEVE THEM!
Yes, you may never have seen a post this long before, but that is because I am new. I call ’em AIS’s (Angelf1sh Inane Stories), the writer part of me randomly coming out when I’m trying to relax and surf the net!
Koko- well no duh, of course someone had to invent pie first before people can throw it into other people’s faces for amusement. *ducks flying pie* but that doesn’t mean you have to throw one in *ducks pie* other people’s faces! What did they do to you? I mean, look at poor Urania! Koko, *ducks flying pie* you should be ashamed at yourself! (and I’m sure you hear this a lot) *ducks another pie* by the way, what pie is your favorite to throw?
Angelf1sh- I’ve seen longer posts. *coughEbethdiditcough*
I’m going to confuse everyone by doing potatoes. I know it’s late, but I’ve only just posted a dulcimer to Japan, and you did ask. Well, someone did.
Potatoes originated in central America. They were brought to Europe sometime in the mid-16th century, where they were comprehensively ignored. I see plenty of really bad “medieval banquets” serving up potatoes because “Walter Ralegh brought them back from America”. He probably did. So did a few other people, and before long, most folk in London would know what a potato was. Would they eat one? Well, given the stories about potatoes causing leprosy, probably not.
Have you ever eaten a pomegranate? I’d guess that you have, on odd occasions, and you’d probably recognise one, but it’s not the sort of thing that regularly ends up in your lunchbox. That was pretty much the status of the potato until the mid 18th century.
Then Louis XIV started looking for something to replace expensive bread, because his peasants were revolting again (they were pretty revolting to start with). A guy called Parmentier recommended the potato. The peasants took some persuading, but eventually they started scoffing the things big time. One apocryphal story says that a field of potatoes was planted “for exclusive use of the King”, and armed guards were stationed all round it to prevent theft. The inevitable and fully intentional result was that the guards were bribed, lots of spuds were pinched, and everyone started growing and eating them.
The student body president with whom I have to share a school-issued computer has aked me to stop posting pictures of wierd old guys (i.e. Lewis and Clark, Sgt. Patrick Gass, Abe Lincoln, Napoleon Bonaparte, Ben Franklin &c &c) on the desktop.
Mrhawr.
perhaps you should try posting pictures of weird young guys then.
183-Yay! Taters!
182-Hrumph. I’m just showing my love to y’all by my occaisional long posts. Angelf1sh-Post as looooong as you like. It’s fun. Trust me. lol
*pies kricket*
lol
184, 185-You could just post pictures of WEETABIX!!!!!
YAAY!
Yup.
I’m hyper.
I would like to welcome my younger brother ‘Hard Hat” Harry onto the blog. He doesn’t have his own email yet, so we’re sharing for now. But he does love Muse.
I think he’ll enjoy this thread, because he loves dinosaurs.
Welcome Harry.
Hi I’m Harry, and here are three dinosaur facts:
1. argentinosaurus was 100 feet long
2. tyrannosaurus rex’s closest cousin was the Asian tarbosaurus
3. t.rex was dethroned as the biggest predator, by giganotosaurus
It’s great to have you here Harry. Maybe the GAPAs will set up a ‘Welcome Hard Hat Harry’ thread.
Note to GAPAs: H-H-Harry enjoys dinosaurs, construction equitment, movies, french fies, and inventing stuff.
He invented a gadget to switch off his bedroom light at bedtime, without getting out of bed.
To find out how it works, set up a welcome thread for him.
Howdy, Harry. Welcome.
What’s your advice to an Argentinosaurus confronted by a pack of Mapusauri?
Mae govannen, Harry!
Isn’t this actually prehistory?
Hey, H-H-Harry! Welcome!!!
Harry is busy at the moment, but I’m sure he’ll be glad when he see’s the respones to his first post.
By the way Robert, I would have directed him to the ‘Prehistory’ thread, if there was one, but since there isn’t, this was the best I could think of.
woohoo, tomorrow in history we get to have a nice class discussion about the US and military intervention…should be verry interesting…
DID YOU KNOW?: Meriwether Lewis shared a room with a 500-pound wheel of cheese.
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O RLY?
Are you putting us on?
No, I’m not kidding. In the White house, he stayed in the same room that Dolley Madison hung her wash in. He slept on an army cot and shared the room with a 500 pound wheel of cheese given as a peace gift to Thomas J. from Napoleon. It was there for 3 years, because it could not fit through the door of the kitchen. servants contitnuously burst into the room and cut pieces off. I bet there were alot of “cheesy” and “who cut the cheese” jokes among the staff of the white house.
I did a report about the wonders of the ancient world. kinda sad only one of them are still standing (the great pyramids).
I watched a thing on the History Channel this morning (when I was supposed to be washing the dishes -oops) about Roman architecture.
The coliseum (WOW I botched that.) didn’t just have gladiators, they sometimes flooded the floor by redirecting the aquaducts and had reenactments of naval war. Now, is that cool or what?
They also had this city that had this mall that was 6 stories high and was shaped in a concave half-circle to hold the hill up that it was built against.
With hand tools. You couldn’t do that if you tried…
I bet I know who Frank Lloyd Wright wanted to meet when he got to heaven.
Sorry about Harry’s absense.
He doesn’t enjoy the blog as much as me.
If he enjoyed typing as much, he could write a twelve foot post on dinosaurs.