Their letter in the May issue declared that Muse is for nerds and could seriously damage one’s social status. Some of you think they’re clueless. Others think they’re kidding. Shriya Jeffica thinks they deserve a thread all their own. We’re not sure about that but are willing to give it a try.
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Since they won’t be on supposedly ‘nerdy’ MuseBlog, may we flame them to a cirsp? That would be nice.
first post? i think they’re kidding. at least, i HOPE they’re kidding.
I suspect they’re kidding, too.
We discourage flaming even in absentia, but feel free to pie them all you like.
I think they were kidding. But I still got really angry, becaues I have abad habit of gettign angry at things I shouldnt.
Well, we could contact them. Possibly. And if it turns out that they truly did intend their letter as an insult, then we can start some online rumors. And trust me, I’m good at that.
*nuculear pie*
*spiked pie*
*pioson pie*
*killer pie*
*live pie with teeth*
DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEIDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m getting angery.
You won’t like me when I’m angery.
What was the letter?
Was it in the muse magazine?
(I didn’t get mine yet)
Muse is accually a real turn on to nerds of the opposite gender
they are idiots. pie them!!!! *pies them* when mostly harmless comes to pass they will be in so much trouble.
grrr
what’s wrong with being a nerd? (nerdy homeschooler talking) i actually know nothing about how the whole social thing works in public school. i happen to also live in Austria so i’m even more clueless.
Basically, there are ranks like a wolf pack.Theres the alpha, usually the oldest, and an omega, usually the special ed kid with the most emtional dissabilites. there are also “Loners” who don’t talk to anyone. And I mean ANYONE outside the special ed. I used to be an omega at my old school, but now i’m a loner.
However rude and mean Laney and Tiffany are, I have to say that their probably kidding, but also that they are correct. I would say that Muse is pretty nerdy, personally. Although I wouldn’t say that it damages your social reputation any more than Trashy Teeny magazines. Some of the articles in Muse are pretty nerdy, though. However, the most tactful thing to do is definitely not to diss a whole magazine and all of its faithful followers, especially when they have a blog that they will rant about you publicly for a long time.
of course its a magazine for nerds! nerds are cool!
Erato, I’ll have to try that. I’ll invade the chess club with my Muses. But, comment 13 utterly confused me; could you please explain it? Ranks of what, exactly?
what was the letter? was it in the most recent muse?
ha ha ha ha
jeffica, obviously, is not my real last name.
now i have a specific place to express my undending hatrid!! MWAH HA HA HA HAAAA!
2,3,4= really? i mean, if i was writing to a magazine, even one i didn’t like so much (or one i loved) i wouldn’t pull a joke like THAT. i can see people joking about a lot of things, but not writing a bogus email……nevermind, i guess i could picture someone doing that. but I don’t think they were.
9= hahahahahahahahahaha
13= special ed?? who said anything about special ed?? aren’t nerds just smart, misunderstood people who don’t feel the need to spend a second on social engagement or take interest in anything remotely stupid?
Well and then there are little groups *coughcultscough* of people who aren’t popular and have no interest in being popular, but aren’t “loners” either. Then there are the complete losers who fail skool and take drugs (we call them the “smoker’s alley kids” cuz they always smoke in this one alley right outside the skool) There are also preps, jocks, geeks, and menny in-betweens. I’m probably nerd/geek but a lot of my friends aren’t, so i guess i’m in the separate group, that is neither hunter nor hunted but sort of operates seperately. (Although i do know somebody named hunter. Whether that is completely irrelevant or not i leave up to you. My guess would be it probably is.)
If you want politics, don’t go to Washington DC. Go to high skool.
I don’t usually like to pie people, but PIE THEM!!!!!
Guess what all? I’m special ed.
Actually, I’m on the high end. The smarter-than-avrage branch, if you will.
Now see, I made no mention of any cliches including nerds, just the school heriarcy.
Nerds aren’t always in special ed. They’re just mostly in special ed *is going to get blasted by angry people*
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
IF THEY WERE REALLY “COOL” THEY WOULDNT BE POSTING OR WRITING LETTERS. THEY ARE DOINH IT FO ATTENTION
Ooooh…they’re so, so, SOOOOOOO insulting! I may be a geek, but MUSE is the ZArkleseizure and a lot of people read it. Even those in Special Ed, like Jadestone (whom I consider really intelligent) are totally okay with the magazine. I have no doubt that Tiffany and Laney are in Special Ed three grades behind their ages.
16-My chess club, which folded, had official t-shirts printed with the legend ‘Chess Geeks Mate Better’ in English on the front and 1337 on the back. I had such fun with those froods. But that’s nerdy, isn’t it? It’s the sort of thing T and L would hate.
We’re all well-rounded people, though. I can kick your butt at chess, Clannen, or Neverquest, but I also know all the Sex Pistols songs and how to kiss shotgun using a soda can. OK? And for the record, MUSE may be geeky and nerdy. I do not attempt to deny charges. But Musers will be running the universe in 10 years, so there you have it.
I didn’t mean that as a insult, by the way. The reason i did was bcause I’m ina special ed program and don’t talk to anyone outside of it.
^ yeah, in 15 yrs, when were the bosses of ppl such as T + L, guess who will be laughing?
…why does the term “nerd” hav to have such a bad connotation anyway?
i thought the pink penguin made them up as a joke.
Muse is for nerds. What’s wrong with that? I stand proudly as a nerdy, anti social teenager in love with Muse, and I think everyone on earth should stand with me. I think Tiffany and Laney were probably cheerleaderish preps who say “like” a lot, and don’t have a ton of brains. Like their letter; the overuse of the word “nerd” was truly atrotious (okay, I think I misspelled that, don’t point it out the irony there). It would’ve been funny if it was intended as a satire. So these are the type people who don’t like Muse? It’s just a testament to how awesome the magazine truly is. Who wants to be like those clueless wackos?
WHY DO THESE PPL DESERVE THEIR OWN THREAD? WHY DO THEY DESERVE A SPACE IN MUSE, ANYWAY?
Okay, so we are nerds, but we’re nerds who are having fun.
Me? I’m enrolled at this artsy middle school, so that makes me younger than most of you and that also means I haven’t gotten the full blast of the social ladder yet. I’m in all advanced classes and hope I’ll get into Algebra next year (I’m in sixth grade at the present). I’m also an A student. So yeah, I’m probably a gargantuan nerd. At least, according to Tiffany’s and Laney’s standards I probably am. You know, I’ll bet you one of them is the spawn of “a Midwest educator”.
For anyone confused, I am providing a brief summary of the typical public school social classes.
PREPS: The rich kids who shop from Hollister, Abercrombie and Fitch, etc. Mainly consisting of girls and their boyfriends. Some are actually friendly to non- preps, but not many.
JOCKS: At my age group, boys who make constant sex jokes and think that women are the inferior gender. May be a couple of girls who look to Mia Hamm as a role model, which actually might be a good thing.
PUNKS/GOTHS: Very sadistic people who shut themselves away from contact with other social groups. Frowned upon by the general student population.
FASHION FROODS: see PREPS.
THE URBAN GEEKS: A pleasant group of people with a high level of intellectual capacity. Scorn the social chain and may actually be moderately cool. Known to laugh the hardest and have the most fun inside of their little group.
CLASSIC GEEKS: The original dork. Often are incredibly annoying.
COMPUTER GENIUSES: see URBAN GEEKS.
THE GANGSTER USHER WANNABES: A very troublesome group of kids, often morally deprived and with home problems. Heck, they have to be if Usher is their role model. Can be seen engaging in some very, er….. flirtacious activities much of the time.
^ The pefect summary…things do loosen up a bit once you get into high school. But really, why even pay attention to them? We certainly know how good Muse is. And if people object to something, all that means is that it’s interesting enough to be controversial.
Mirjana: neat! is english your 1st or 2nd language? (just curious)
im totally gangsta today. *pathetically tries to imitate one of those gang signs, loser that she is…*
23- many of us here are. it’s not so special.
24- funny, i thought quite the opposite.
im a clique in myself. i fit in with everybody and nobody (well everyone except the jocks [pssh yah right] goths, punks, druggies, and related groups. i fit in with cynical smart people, preps, ultra trendy, popular artsy, nerds, geeky, outcasts, normal folk, can’t-ever-stop-laughing-so-help-them-god people, trendsetters and fashion lovers, and dance people.
well, muse hasn’t decreased MY social status because only 2 people know i even GET the magazine and everyone else doesn’t even know it exists (in my grade, that is) !!
The letter wasnt scornful enough to be real… dont get me wrong, it was major scorn, but it was laughable, not honest scorn. I think that even airheaded ditzes could have recognized the laughablility (i donbt care if thats not a word) of the letter. How ever, it was really irritating. Basically, they were saying (even if it was a joke) that being interested in stuff, and wanting to know about the world outside makeup, fasion and celbreties, is a bad thing.
My school is nice in that the hierarchy and cliques are not uber prominent. They are most deffinately prominent, but you can ignore them pretty well. However, there are only about five other people besides me in my grade who have imaginations and only about 15 more after that who are really nice.
33- Are you sure “preps” is the right word? I would more go for “populars” or somethin. I think preps can just be kids who like fasion- they dont neccesarily have to be the snotty rich kids. Then again, these sorts of things never really have concrete diffentions.
(9) Oooh I know. ♥ xDDDDD
(33) Oh that it were the fifties again. I have similar “groups”, yes, but…
It bothers me SO much when everyone starts lableling. We’re not soup cans. Don’t.
Everyone has a reason why they are the way there are. You hate “them” because they hate you. label you. We see things so narrowly. Open your eyes .
I’m not inferring I myself don’t label. I do, I hate it, but I do. That’s too bad for me.
We can generate an endless amount of words for these people
prep,jock,emo,nerd,geek,freak,goth,punker,outcast,loner,them
No one fits in a group with anyone else. Because we’re different.
heeey im an urbangeek-prep-fashionfrood-somethingelse.
meanie.
i hate it when you put people into little boxes like that. i can name off the top of my head 25 kids who don’t fit cleanly into any of those categories, first on the list being me.
and thats not what a prep is!!!! preps are traditionally nicknames for people that go to boarding school and have come to mean people that wear lacoste, J Crew, Polo, Tommy Hilfiger, and similar brands that come from money and get relatively good grades. they are the kinds of kids that make parents proud, but dont have very much individuality. prim and proper but emotionally dull.
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♥ ♥ ROCK ON AXA!!! ♥ ♥
32………………..a lot of ppl are saying that. i wanted to discuss…….sry for suggesting it to the GAPAs…??
(38) Yes, very true. I actually don’t dislike very many people, or types of people. I guess with homeschooling there were never any real “cliques”, so I just had to decide on each individual person, and I learned to see the good in everyone.
Can’t help myself… I feel a GAPA sermon coming on.
Human beings seem to have an instinct for differentiating themselves into tribes, and the more similar two groups are, the harder they work at it. Even MuseBloggers are doing it, humorously, over on the Pie Wars threads. That was one of the points of the Esperanto article I wrote for the fourth issue of Muse: that nowadays many people with similar languages (Serbs and Croats, Hindi- and Urdu-speakers, Czechs and Slovaks) are working to make it harder, not easier, to communicate.
The desire to feel superior to your neighbors is one of the strongest forces in the universe and explains a lot of what people do. I hereby proclaim that to be Coontz’s First Law of Human Interaction. Whenever human behavior puzzles you, see if it applies.
End of sermon. Back to lurking and moderating.
i didn’t even see that letter, but i got the general gist from the rest of you. all I have to say is that most of the “nerds” like us are going to end up being the successful ones, while they, the “cheelrleader” types are going to end up messed up, on welfare, addicted to cigarettes, etc. I only hope we’re not too mature to gloat then.
Hindi!!
i’m Hindu!! 
yaaaay!!!
okay im done
T-I-F-Y
you aint got no alabi
you stupid
yeah, yeah you stupid
L-A-N-Y
you ain’t got no alabi
you stupid
yeah, yeah you stupid
M-U-S-E
you ain’t got no alabi
you nerdy
yeah, yeah, you awesome
MUSE aka NERDY MAG (lol)
WE LOVE YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE.
MIMI NEED NOT BE POLITELY SARCASTIC.
We are sssssooooooooooooooooo cool, that we don’t have to put other nouns down to feel cool. only total prats and tossers do that. Like tiff and lane.
(43) I loved that Esperanto article. I thought it was kind of sad, really, because it reminded me (just like this whole thread did) how much we like to be divided into groups, and feel better than other ones.
It was also cool, because I got to start calling my freinds a “malbela kamelo” which is a lot more fun than “stupid idiot”.
Jeez. Usually I’m aware when Im labeling, but I still dont really think about it, and when I do, I just feel horrible.
OK, Skipper thinks it’s time to stop dissing Laney and Tiffany and congratulating ourselves. (and yes, that makes me a hypocrite). Peace, love and hot pink bunnies, mia amikos.
#43… it just proves what ive always said. english is encroaching upon other languages territory. its so illogical and crazy its sad. english is the mutt of languages, originaly a germanic language, that, due to englands territories, spread all around. picking up new words along the way. cipher, to do math, is derived from arabic sifr, which means 0. and tuna? fish! english was german once a very inconceivable time ago, butit got corrupted. i can read and write in arabic but that doesnt mean ill always understand what is being said. arabic is very logical, and adheres to a set of strict lingual rules, to which ive only found one exception. not like english, where there are noi lingual rules. i before e except after c? weird. nothing more should be said. i wouldnt reccomend learning arabic tho, unless yur prepared to deal with a differant alalphabet and syntax and male and female verbs.
I wrote a letter 2 muse about these freaks. i dont think theyre kidding, and i bet theyre going 2 get a crapload of hate mail in the next magazine!
I dont think theyre kidding because if they really did like muse, they would say at the bottom that they were joking.
Yes,Jadestone,you are really smart.OK……………..thank you,oh wise and wonderful GAPA,for granting my wish!*weeps tears of joy*.OK,here was my original plan for MH:
1)Obtian 1500 hpbs
2)strap radio transmitters onto 1499 of them
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!sister over shoulder!do not mention mh!!!!
phew…………she’s gone…………
3)flush ones with radio thingies down tiolet
4)hpbs come up in virtually every house in the world
5)hpbs redirect every TV in the world to the video camera I am holding
6)Piont vc at remaining hpb
7)people hypnotized
8)hpb sez “Muse-ish people are your master”
THE END
Head over to the ‘Dissing Mr. Joe’ thread you bums.
=)
I think that it’s a bit sick that they got their own thread…
our Skool is divided like this
and popular (my bestfriend is here)
and popular
and semi-popular
and semi popular/ super smart kids (im here)
losers
losers
(the girls im still need to classify the guys)
– The super cool
– The cool
– The cool
– The semi-cool
– The cool
– The semi-cool
– The losers
– The total and complete losers
– The totally nerdy and totally loser loners
– The semi goths
in our skool almost ALL of the smart kids are in the 1st – 4th group. This means the geniuses who are considered Gifted & Talented. Im one of those G&T kids. GO ME!
its a harsh skool world. where you are classified into decides where you will sit. there are even assigned tables for each group. (some are VERY crowded)
i wrote a hate letter to muse anot laney and tiffany
mr. joe is actually an alter ego of T&L, so we’ve been dissing them all this time. lol.
GAPA! You’re not supposed to have sermons. We are free and awesome.
And is it bad to want to be better than your neighbor? What if your neighbor makes human sacrifices at the time of the full moon>
T and L are bugging me.
If they were trying to be insulting, it wasn’t very nice. Muse rocks! If it’s nerdy, so what? If they were kidding, they ought to have like said that in a PS, or something. Whatever. PIE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is the population distribution in my skool:
all out preps: 50%
art freaks: 25%
punks/nerds: 15%
other: 10%
i think that there are a lot less preps this year…the FREAKS are taking over! yes!!! they are. but why?
it also seems that there is only a fine line between punks and nerds; @ least there is here. why is this?
+ it also depends on where you liv. for example, there are absolutely no ghetto ppl in this entire town. i doubt there are even any wannabes either
GAPA, i LOVED the Esperanto article! Thank you! Danka! Merci! Gracias!
Okay, I’m very sorry I pushed the whole “labels” thing. You know, if Tiffany and Laney come on here (pff) that could truly be very beneficial to them. You know, the soup label thing is so passe. And what if the soupcans feel bad about it. They may be labeled different things, but on the inside, aren’t they all some broth and assorted chunks of meat and/or vegetables? THAT IS BIAS AGAINST SOUPCANS AND IT IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D: Woe to the soup of the world, judgement is thine.
51 im going to
52 i agree
58 wow you are lucky
im online so i can brag whaever
anyways, im one of the 2 smartest people in my grade, and i dont fit into A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G. it stinks
cool people dont reeeeeally like smart people very much
Like, I am so happy that I’m, like, not the, like, only superficial airhead who reads Muse! OMG! I sooo totally, like, you know, agree with T&L that you guys are all, like, NERDS!
BUUURN. Feel the social stigma. Oooo. Shiny.
Well, there goes the persona. Sorry if I’ve deprived anyone of their entertainment for the day, my luverly Opal Starbursts.
By the way, I’m not T. Or L. Despite the persona comment.
69 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
well lyk whatevurr i dont lyk really lyk care what you say because lyk those two are lyk so0o0o0o0o0o0o cool omg!! ♥ ♥ ♥ lyk lol!!!! omg!!!
i agree with axa. labeling is bad.
I’m gonna be a nerdy rock star! okay im done.
I think labeling is bad, too. Thats why i just wrote the heriarchy.
Wait a sec.Pink Penguin wrote to Muse as Tiffany and Laney?Pink Penguin is good………………..but Tiffany and Laney are bad…………………………………….but Pink Penguin IS Tiffany and Laney……………………………………..AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! breeak down………….
Is my plan good?
I DID SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT write to Muse as Tiffany and Laney. I would have cracked and admitted it by now. I am the person who every hour would remind my mom to renew Muse. i dont even KNOW anyone named Tiffany and Laney, and i only seny my first letter to Muse 2 weeks ago.
Im NOT Tiffany or Laney. if i wrote to muse it would be Never be about that. i dont even know who coco channel of caroline herarra ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love is hpbs you plan is NOT good (75)
OMG i just got the magazine and that letter is AWFUL! how dare they.
i gots a nu e-mayl adress
i am not t or L
If tiffany and Laney are real…. We should diss them instead of Mr. Joe.
*mourns soupcans*
In my school, the heirarchy is sort of like a giant spider web–and you can find Musers in the most unlikely of places. An outline:
At the center of the web lie the cool girls–tall, attractive, shapely, moderately smart and athletic.
Slightly outside lie the cool boys–some smart, more dumb, they date the cool girls.
Then there are the ambassadors–the cool girls and some cool boys that are freinds with other groups and connect them to the center of the web. Connected groups are:
The jocks–stupid, mostly, obnoxious, crude senses of humor, play electric guitar.
The nice human beans–they are everyone’s freinds. They are kind, considerate, average intelligence or slightly above, talk earnestly, have nice boy/girlfreinds that their mother approve of, and are liked by all.
The there are the ‘strange’ people–the ones no one quite knows what to make of. Among them are the Bowl team members and some Musers. More later…got to go.
If I’m not mistaken, I’m the only oen that reads muse in my entire school. We really need to boost muse more.
you forgot about half our grade phoenix.
i refuse to classify people. so i won’t attempt to label them.
whoaaaa. I just got the magazine and read the letter, and I really don’t think that they’re kidding. My sister who is 13 has girls like that in her class. and by the way, statistically, people like them will end up WORKING for people like us. and then we can torment them. MWA HA HA HA HA!!!!
I am not on the outside of the web! I’m not on the inside either. I think I’m for of the spider, picking and playing with the flies to eat them later.
83– me too, but i told my friend about it.
i AM the web!!!!!!
i fit into everything and nothing (except the goths, punks, and druggies) but the complete over popular idots talk to me, but so do the anti-social nerds. and everyone in between.
sounds cool, is confusing.
74:
TPSPOP pretended to be them on here, only for 3 posts. but the letter was the real idiots themselves.
in my hypocritical way i’m going to add a category which won’t apply to most of you anyways: sufer-people. they come into my class everyday just before the bell rings, drop their soaking wet wetsuits in the sink, prop their surfboards up on the wall and go to their classes. then at the end of the day the go off half-in-their-wetsuits, surfboards under arms on skateboards. or else they hitch a ride up the coast with the head of the surf club (my algebra teacher, which is why the surfers leave their gear in his/my classroom.) ok, DON”T FORGET TO CRAUNCH YOUR MARMOSET!
82-God. That must be truly awful.
87-Is there something wrong with being punk? I hadn’t noticed.
One of my father’s friends has completely destroyed his nose by cocaine (it was weak in the first place) and now his septum has dissolved so much he can stick his finger up his nose and wiggle either eyeball. Don’t do drugs. They’re baaaaaaaad.
My school is full of preps. When I wear black I get tormented. Oh well. I do it every day. I don’t go to a school, I go to a sitcom.
I don’t think all musers are nerds; that’s such a huge statement there’s no way T & L have the proof to back it up. However, no offense, but I bet a lot of musers out there are geeks or nerds. *raises hand* I am, lol! I get ridiculed by the “cool” kids a lot, but I don’t really care anymore. All I’ve seen of the “cool” girls are stereotypical beautiful blondes who spend all their time worrying about their appearance and their reputation, gossiping about celebrities and not doing their homework. I never hear them say anything even remotely original or interesting. Honestly, if it means most people make fun of me and see me as a social reject, so be it. I’d still rather stay a nerd! (However, I must note that it’s easier for me to say this than my nerdy friends in public school because, for the most part, only nerds go to my school. We get one or two new “cool” people every year, but the nerds vastly outnumber them and they leave the next year because they don’t want to do that much work.)
As for Muse magazine, even if it is a nerdy magazine, why is that a bad thing? Personally I’d much rather read about craunching marmosets and hot pink bunnies than who Jessica Simpson is dating or “what your fashion flaws are and how to fix them”, lol.
Same here, eccentric. Tenrecs of Britney Spears baby any day!
Tenrecs OVER Britney Spears baby, I mean
I love ♥ Copper Yeti Bigfoot.
Actually, shouldn’t you be Constable Yeti Bigfoot? Copper sounds so unofficial.
ahem. someone or someones who call something nerdy usually mean that they dont actually understand what is going on. also, either the ‘o’ button on their keyboard was broken or they belong to the religion that states that sooooo actually is a real word. none of thismeans that they are blond- it does, however, mean that they are junior high school girls, and are either innocently stupid and not responsible for their actions, or are automatically considered fair attackable game. most of us prefer the latter, but it is one of the great mysteries of life: do we feel sorry for them, or have their heads and be done with it?
Hello there, Monday. Where have you been for the past four months?
HI!
NERDS ARE AWESOME.
wait….tiffany and laney. they don’t really sound like real people. I think they are definately made up/
PIE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!
50- DOn’t you mean unless you not prepared to deal with a differant alalphabet and syntax and male and female verbs?
Im plannign on learning arabic. My mama speaks and reads it, and me sister is learning. the thing about arabic though, is that there are a whole lot of different dialects that can be pretty different (at least from what I understand of it)
*joins Gwen in mourning the soup cans, as she is also tired of the whole “people arent soup cans” shpeel*
83- You are mistaken. How do you know whether or not people read Muse at school? I do it all the time. Im pretty sure other people have mentioned doing it too.
Look, if there are actually two people out there who think that stuff, do you think theyd be the kind of people to take the time to read the mag? Theyd just toss it aside and grab there next issue of cosmo. They certainly wouldnt take the time to write a letter.
Labels are just something people put on in the morning. Like clothes. You can quote me on that.
T and L obviously forgot to craunch the marmoset.
95-Attack them. Done. After all, can we leave such ignorance, malice, and spite to foster in a world we expect to be good and grown up?
101- No, but do you think being intolerant and violent towards those we don’t like is any better than being mailcious and spiteful? I don’t think so. Attacking them is not the answer. What would it solve, other than making them hate us more?
Okay, first I want to say that I haven’t gotten the magazine and have not read the letter.
From the parts of it that you guys are repeating on here, I’m guessing they were joking and doing a stereotypical brainless-prep letter, as a joke. And probably the reason they didn’t put that they were joking at the end is that they probably thought that most Musers would be smart enough to figure out that they were joking; obviously, that doesn’t seem to have worked- maybe they weren’t obviously sarcastic enough.
Secondly, yeah, I’d say that Muse is a pretty geeky/nerdy magazine. And I like it like that. I like the actually interesting articles, cool people who get it, variety of topics, etc (although some magazines have been better than others- some are sort of “meh” but most are “wow”). Of course, I’m fairly geeky myself- so far the lowest grades I’ve gotten on a report card this year are three 99s..
*cries over soupcans some more*
*starts creative centre that stresses individualism amongst soupcans*
I just read the letter! Ugh, how rude of them! T and L, watch out! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t care if I’m a nerd, but they shouldn’t tell us that we are! And the nerve of them! I’m mad at you, T and L!
PS–We aren’t damaging our social status! We have plenty of ”nerds” around us, as you can see!
PPS–You might have been joking, but just in case……..
103- either your school is a bit too easy, or you have a photographic memory, or you don’t have an overload of extracurriculars.
but that is impressive, expecially if none of the above are true.
random posts- okay, its fine to say you are a nerd and proud and all that, but you don’t have to label them right back. you are all being just as horribly judgemental as they are.
i am friends with certian popular people and may be considered to some one of them myself. in my school, only about 4 out of 15 of the girls are natural blondes and yes, i admit they don’t care about grades, but 5 of them are in one or two extended classes (out of 4). so, no they’re not smart, but they aren’t ALL the airheads that you make them out to be.
how about “products of the media”
Dear Tiffany and Laney:
I understand that both of you are shallow, superficial, and self-centered, and I also understand that you cannot appreciate the way that Muse educates, enlightens, and connects young people such as myself. Perhaps you would be content with an equally shallow, superficial, and self-centered magazine like Seventeen, Teen Vogue, or Ellegirl.
I would like to describe your personalities to you, and possibly this will wake you up and get you going on the path of actual potential.
You are popular. You hang with cool kids, and rule your school with your complete self-centeredness. You shop at places such as American Eagle, Aeropostale, Abercrombie and Fitch, Hollister, et cetera. You wear tons of makeup but still fret every morning that you aren’t wearing enough. You walk all over the smart kids your age, write mean notes about people, and completely stomp all over those sensitive enough to care what you think. You do not care about your education, and will most probably crash when you get to college age and have to think about money, school, and real things. You have a cell phone and your parents pay the bill. You continually watch MTV. You are obsessed with your weight and how you look. You do not read books other than teen girl ones like The Clique.
This is the exact personality of the upper percentage of popular kids at my school. I believe that you are much like them. I also strongly pity you, in that you have been raised to behave and believe this way. One of the only ways to turn yourself around it to be nicer. Care. Learn. Choose. Save. Do something. Be something. Good luck.
-Violetfire
I have 2 cents to throw in here:
I am very popular. As in, top 20 list. And I LOVE Muse! So ha! Not a nerd.
But I will say that the 18 people in front of me on that list have declared The Clique their favorite book, and I refuse to read it.
It’s scary that you all know the hierarchy so precisely. How about Number 20? Think she might be Muser material?
I still can’t help thinking T. & L. might have just been clowning around.
*soupcans come to creative centre*
*little Beefica Boyardee writes some really excellent poetry*
*Chickeno Campbell makes a lovely Impressionist painting of his shelf*
*Cauliflower Wolfgangpuck (goes by Cauli) choreographs a new dance about canning, broth, and eventual digestion and excretion*
IM A NERD AND IM PROUD!!!
nice letter Violetfire. u should send it 2 Muse
108.
>:-(
>>:-(
have i said this enough times?!?!?!
about 10 already in this thread alone
YOU ARE LABELING THEM AS BADLY AS THEY ARE LABELING YOU.
ME, AN EXAMPLE OF A HAPPY MEDIUM:
i am subscribed to seventeen, teen vogue, elle girl, vogue, shop etc, and bazaar
i shop at abercrombie, hollsiter, guess, delias, and american eagle
i have 4 clique books, 4 a-list books, and 2 gossip girl books–and i’ve read them all.
-BUT-
muse is by far my favorite magazine in the universe
i have 200 novels that are NOT girly teen fiction
i have a 98.7 average
i am in the 4 accelerated classes that are offered
i finished a john hopkins writing course and i’m doing a math course now
i got an 1190 on the old SATs in 7th grade and an 1890 on the new SATs in 8th
i play the flute. a lot.
NOW WILL YOU PLEASE STOP PUTTING IDIOT LABELS ON THESE PEOPLE??
those two are dumb, but liking those things does NOT automatically make anyone else dumb, too.
* cough cough like me cough *
the geeks shall inherit the earth.
wellllllllllllll, hmm
THEY ARE DWEEBS NOT US CUZ WE ROCK
*whew* that felt good to let it all out
well what are they talking about? with a name like
tif fanny and just change that n to a m and you got “lamey”
I don’t think they were kidding, although it pains me to think that someone out there in the world has the slightest hint of dissatasfaction with Muse, that’s what I think.
I guess I’m a nerd. I mean, i don’t spend all my time glued to the computer screen trying to launch a rocket to mars(nothing against the people that do), but I’m a pretty smart kid. I get A’s pretty much all the time and I know tons of stuff, and watch eductional stuff on TV like Nova and Nature.I don’t believe that the world should be all facts and that sort of nonsense, so I don’t know if I’m a nerd or not.
Uh, guys, anyone out there? No one’s said anything for forever(2days)
):>(Where are you guys? Is everyone on a vacation to China or what??????????
My teacher said that every kid with a problem has their Niche. Mine is animals (You could see that in the pie war, when I made all those pie animals)
KiKat, do yuo know what fanny means in Britian? Something you’re not allowed to mention on a kids blog…
DE, You would LUFF midwest educator
CB,
Have you read any books by Temple Grandin? She is a college professor with autism who is famous for her understanding of animals. I’m sure Muse must have mentioned her at some point. Highly recommended.
Sounds cool. I love animals too
Aloha where are you guys???????? ) : (
OK, if they hate MUSE so much, they should just cancel their subscription!
MUSE is a magazine about “The sciences , history, art, etc.”
I’m a nerd! If nerds bother them, then why do they even start this whole thing?!
Yep, I have a copy of Animals In Translation on my bookshelf
Thinking in Pictures was good, too. And I see she’s co-authored one called The Unwritten Rules of Social Relationships.
Shriya’s right. I only dissagree with th whole abercrombie thing. I dislike those clothes. I prefer political t-shirts.
Like the one with the Ben Franklin quote on it.
Anywoof, has T and L thought about idssabled kids that read Muse? The federal governemnt says I have too high an IQ to be dissabled (135 points), but everybody says I am anyways….
*pies tiffany and laney with three hundred twenty-seven thousand, nine hundred thrity-four titanium, atmosphere-freindly, strawberry golf ball and recycled cardboard pies, in quick succession.*
wouldn’t they have SAID if this was a joke??
that number is 327,934. just so u know.
Hooray! Gwendolyn, I really think it’s great that some one is finally giving those soup cans the help they need. *places hand on heart and nods sincerely*
114- Thank you shriya! Everyone, read shriya’s post, she has an excellent point.
(130) I’m really sorry, Otzi, but that hit a sore spot. If you want, just skip over this bit because you have now sparked
THE I HATE POLITICAL T SHIRTS AND BUMPER STICKERS RANT!
OK, somrtimes there funny and clever, and sure, people should critisize things that need critisizing, but HELLO wer are not sheep! All those shirts are is clever sounding meaningless soundbytes! They don’t show any reall knoweldge of the problems of the situation! Simply wearing the “I hate Bush” message on their sleeves makes makes people feel as though they are politically active and that they know what is going on, when really they have no clue! Plus, they are mass produced and ALL THE SAME, which means (and here she magically ties in the topic of this thread)
LABELING! Having those bumper stickers and t-shirt is just another way of cutting down real ideas and serving out ready made opinions! SHEEP!!
Grrr. that didnt some out as clearly as I meant. oh well.
Anyway, sorry Otzi. Nothing personal. It’s just been bothering me for ages.
no, the geeks won’t inherit the earth, the meek will inherit the earth, the rest of us are going to the stars!
(135) The problem with politics is everyone wants to get themselves in the history books and ends up putting the nation in debt.
About the cloths thing… I volenteerd at this nonprofit warehouse place with sone kids from my church and our job was taking the packaging off shoes and soprting them. The sad thing was, over half were size xxxxs high heels donated be tommy halfinger!!!! And then we noticed how much raw matirial putting heels on shoes wastes. So we’re considering starting an organisation called eahh –
E nviromentalists
A gainst
H igh
H eels
tiffany and laney are evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SEND IN THE PINK BUNNIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don’t think they were joking. if they were, they’d probably put a ps just kidding at the end
130 thank you
132 YOU SILLYHEAD!!! XD why did you say you were mentally disabled in your thread about the worst day of your life?? you acted like you were in special needs!! that’s 4 points higher than me, and people exclude me because “i’m smart”
135 thank you too
137 plus they HURT. A LOT. *nods* wonderful idea
Dragon Eye – well, now look at all those people!!!
i respect people that dont ‘fit’ into any clique, box, or label perfectly more than nerds. nerds are detached from the world. VERY detatched. it’s fabulous to be intelligent. great to have fun. nice to not do self-degrading things. but you should at least be AWARE of things, and though you oppose them, don’t single your self out by TELLING everyone!!
Remember people, nerds aren’t always the ones with the best grades. i have TERRIBLE grades, yet I have an IQ of 135.
For example, today in science, ig ot an 81. 81! Can you belive it? i nearly cried.
And in math, 69.
In SS, 79
ha! they’re kidding and you guy’s are seriously over-reacting. even if they weren’t joking, who cares? they’re allowed to have they’re own opinions, however misguided.
well, maybe they weren’t kidding, and anyways, everbuggy’s just venting their steam. i agree with whoever said if they were kidding they probably would have said so.
First of all, I would like to voice my amazment that they even had the brains to figure out that Muse is, indeed, only for the wierd. Secondly, why are they even writing if they hate muse so much, and if they hate it, why did they take the time to even look ot that picture of kids in the arctic circle? Carolina Herrara and coco-schnelli don’t belong in muse!(Well, if she’s koko’s cousin, maybe they share genes…whoah, that is a scary, eville, and unthinkable thought). I agree with whoever said this:send in the hot pink bunnies! If those fashion concious teens didn’t buy those outfits and gave their money to charity, they could feed a 3rd world family for a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(gasp gasp gasp)
okay. I’m done screaming now.
I think I damaged my vocal chords.
BUT IT WAS WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
136-
geek, meek, one letter difference. bet the “m” was a typo.
I wanna know what method to the madness the editors had going when the put the letter in there.
91- I resent the blonde comment.
114- I have to agree with you. ENOUGH WITH THE LABELING ALREADY!! Also, I have read several of the books you mentioned and thought they were ok. Of course I will read anything you put in my “nerdy” little paws, so maybe my opinion doesn’t count…
(147) The editors put it in there because all opinions should be heard, not just the ones reving about how great Muse is.
(and even the ones that might be jokes).
I think think G/T should be something else. Everyone is gifted and talented in their own way. I am in G/T too, but my evil teachers give me too much homework and I have a hard time balancing my schedule. You don’t have to get all A’s to succeed anyway; I do fine in school and I get about half A’s and half B’s.
You know, I thought they were joking before I got the issue of Muse.
Then I got the issue.
I still think they’re joking. And probably the reason they didn’t put a “ps” in was that they figured that people would recognize sarcasm when it slapped them in the face. I mean, even the names they used are stereotypically airhead prep… I seriously doubt they would get a subscription for two years if they actually felt that way.. And that letter was too well written, also..
Was it two years? That missed me the first time.
Whether it was a joke or not, i found the whole thing rather amusing. But then, i like to laugh at people. *evil grin*
One good thing about it is it has provoked quite an interesting discussion. I.e. easy procrastination time and a chance to generalize, something humans are immensely fond of doing, but don’t often get a chance to do without offending people that it is not wise to offend. Good times, good times.
110-You mean post 20? As in me? Or are you talking about something completely different?
for the record, i know someone who is about as stereotypically airhead/shallow as you can get (her name is tiffany, and she have blond hair and blue eyes) but is actually smart, down to earth, and really shy
Okay,here are the ‘”ranks”(it’s a little bit sick that they’re called that)
REALLY POPULAR MEANIE GIRLS AND THEY’RE FOLLWERS(Taylor,a girl at my school,is here.She’s a meanie,not a follower.)
JOCKS A.K.A.POPULAR BOYS DEVOTED TO SPORTS
NERDS(The kids who are totally devoted to thier schoolwork because they have 0 social life)
SPECIAL PROBLEM KIDS
AVERAGE KIDS
AGP(super smart but only talk to each other because ranks 1 and 2 tease us because we’re different.)
DOWN WITH TIFFANY AND LANEY!
I understand that I am a nerd.
I know that I am weird.
AND GUESS WHAT? I’M PROUD OF IT!
i have so many girls at my school who are really popular Meanie girls, and so many more followers. they are annoying! Tiffany and Laney definetly fit the category even though i dont know them.
may i sugest giving them a bomb pie and shoving it in their pompus faces? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE?
Tiifany and Laney are insane! what was all of that stuff about them wanting an article about Coco Chanel? Sheesh…..
Eat ’em.
Unfortunately this is the average person I meet all over the world, Europe or not.
And what do you mean by that?
159-I know. Geez, people are mundane to the wholesome world of Musery. how annoying. However, not knowing anyone but the peoples in my rural Michiganian town, I would not know this about the world’s snot jobs.
ARRRGGHHH
There ae these really popular people at my school and at lunch,my friend was wearing her Harry Potter T-shirt and they kept coming up and going “LIke, will you teach me how to, like, turn my friends into frogs?”They are such Rhymes-with-witches can I say that word?Please?