History v. 2006.2
Don’t get hysterical, get historical.
Date: May 8, 2006
Categories: Random craziness
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Don’t get hysterical, get historical.
Date: May 8, 2006
Categories: Random craziness
YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! THANK YOU, GAPAs!!!!
YOU GUYS ARE SOOSOOOSOOOSOOSOOOOOOO COOL!!!!!!!!!
THE REDCOATS ARE COMING!!!! AAAA!
In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been regarded as a bad move.
Hey, what happened to the other two I put on there? the ones expressing my great gratitude to the almighty GAPAs?
Lets Talk About:
Caveman
Aincent Greece
Colonial America
The Declartion of Independance
Watergate
……..
Oh, poo. forgot to take off the name.
this is wierd. Okay,first there was the “YAY” post. Then there was the “sososo cool’ post. Then there was one that siad “THE REDCOATS ARE COMING!” with the name Otzi Revere. Then ther was one asking where the first two had gone. Then there was oe where I acknoledged that i forgot to take off the “Revere” part of Otzi Revere. Then I was confused, because some of them were there and some werent.
two comments just dissapeared.
Completely.
I like electricity. And reveloution.
Otzi, are you sure they actually appeared in the first place? I think the problem was that no one had moderated them until I just did a few seconds ago. They do appear to be there now, though, don’t they?
On a related topic: moderation might be slow for the rest of the day. I’m going to be away from my computer for a while. And it’s already pretty late on Robert’s side of the world so I don’t think he’ll be doing much moderating either.
Oh, look. The Pacific Ocean. Lovely. Now let’s go home.
I have IMMUNITY! I AM PRESIDENT!!!!!
Peace out, man.
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh…
Thum theire Internets r cewl. Lak mi. and mah speffy spaaneesh spekin’.
Okay, I will now accept that my impersonations may not come out in chronological order…
sigh.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I FINALLY GOT 1st POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i guess no one’s up becuz its 10:oo ur time, and me…still 8.
Ancient persia. I know nothing of it. Does any one here?
no
Let’s talk about watergate….cool stuff
Google “Story of Purim” for an event that happened in Persia.
I just did a paper on the fall of ancient Persia.
ooh i love purim!!!! i was an iPod this year!
We’re doing the middle east…
So… deep throat was finally revelaed. were you shocked?
Otzi- The only non-moderated comments that appear are the ones that were posted by the user name you last used to post. Like the one posted by Otziwether Lewis would have dissappeared after you posted as Otzi Nixon. I think…
(21, 25) Larry Gonick knows all about ancient Persia and everything else. You couldn’t cite his “Cartoon History of the Universe” in the bibliography for a paper, though.
How ancient are you talking about? The really ancient ancient Persia that fought wars with the Greeks, or the Islamic Persia that came later?
I love ancient Korea!
30-Do ya wanna bet on that, Mr. Coontz-sama?
Watergate is just plain embarrassing. Not that Deep Throat was a shocker. Who picks an alibi like Deep Throat, anyway? Ewww! Deeply Concerned, maybe. Deep DooDoo, perhaps. But Deep Throat? What was that guy smoking? Makes me wonder.
What were ANY of those guys smoking, anyway?
who fired the first shotof the revolution?
ok, that was cheesy.
Were the Amazons real?
Hello, Abby (35). I see you were here a month ago but didn’t receive a welcome pie. Would somebody like to make the presentation?
*pies abz*
MWAHAHAHA!!!
*happy dance*
Well done. What sort of pie was that?
A Pie of Mystery.
Aka i don’t know and don’t feel like making one up.
You didn’t hear that. You just think it’s Doomed to Remain Mysterious. (yes, w/capital letters. It’s that special)
Featherstone was gone yestiddy and we had a REALLY annoying sub with a LOUD, UGLY, IN-YOUR-FACE VOICE like mwaaaah mwaaaaah mwaaaaah who couldn’t teach. At all.
But he’s back today. W/new glasses. I mention this because they are almost exactly like mine. Did i mention that my glasses are incredibly froody? Well they are.
Which all reminds me that i haven’t actually done my hw for that class and i must do (i usually do it in latin, but i have to do my latin hw in latin for once cuz i think she’s checking. Yes, she’s started checking now. *pies alex for suggesting it (he needed to bring his grade up…rar)*)
Ooh, looky pretty )*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)
Wheeeeee.
*sigh* off to do hw then…
I LOVE Lemon Meringue Pie!!!!!!!
Help needed:
My personal cast list for the Kokopelli & Company movie is almost complete.
All that’s missing, is someone to play Pwt.
Anyone know of any good Egyptian comedians?
whoever thought up that pun should be hanged. or at least have their feet tickled severely.
34: It is not known who fired the “shot heard ’round the world”, only that he was british. Crispus Attucks, an enslaved African, was hit and killed, holding the rather dubious claim to fame of being the first one killed in the American Reveloution.
32: according to an unnamed source, “Deep Throat” was the title of a naughty movie. I don’t think wotsisname chose it, anyway. Which makes me wonder what the reporter was smoking.
I’m not so sure the story of Purim really happened. I’ve read that it’s very likely based on Babylonian mythology featuring Ishtar and Marduk. Have any of you learned about this controversy?
All I really know about it is that there was some sort of contest / pageant, and this evil guy, and a king, and a girl with a tail and pimples, and that there is a type of purim cookie called hamentoshen , and hamentoshen means ear, even though the cookies are supposed to be the evil guy’s hat.
I am really angry at myself. I forgot the names and the story.
12: they reappeared.
If it never happened, why do I dress up like a cat and eat Hamasatian every year?
watergate!!
Wait. Where does the cat come in?
in the begining there was the GNU. and he created the avacado. after the avacado civilization grew they tried to enslave the GNU. they sent out their most powerful warior, Em. the gnu said avacado, you have betrayed me. then he smited em, ebeth, otzi,Purple p, and all other avacados. the avacados were reduced to veggies. without the guidence of the avacado the human race was thrown into bad decitions, like the dark ages. and Bill Clinton.
My fursona.
aww why history?? i stink at history.
there’s no logic and no emotion, its just memorizing things.
i’m only good at logic and emotion!!
lets talk about literature, or science, or math. or better than all of those, art or music.
Real history is full of logic and emotion. It’s almost never taught that way in school, though.
If there’s no emotion, you can insert emotion. For example, Meriwether Lewis commited suicide 3 years after the expedittion. Oh. Okay. But wait…..
Meriwether could have been suffering from rejection. His friend and colleague William Clark had been his soley for three whole years. When Billy married Judith Hancock, Meriwether became a fifth wheel, which tore him up inside, driving him to drugs and alcohol . he couldn’t get a wife. His best friend was leaving him. He was alone. He sunk deeper and deeper in depression, becoming solitary and ignoring his duties. When William’s wife had a child, another competitor for attenition, it drove Meriwether over the brink. to twist the dagger, the Child was named Meriwether Lewis Clark. Auggghhhhh. Agony Agony…His only friend in the world….he couldn’t take it anymore….
I have way too much spare time.
57-YES! YES! OMG! Hear hear! I LOVE history, but i HATE the book! I’ve hated history class every year until now, and that’s cuz featherstone can supply plenty of emotion where the book is lacking. But if we EVER get decent history textbooks, the world will end. Seriously. I bet that’s why AP US reads so menny other books. I’m gonna love that class…seriously.. anyway.
54-Ah! I’ve been smited! I didn’t know i was an avacado…interesting. *pokes self* Am i edible then?
Otzi, mind if bring what you wrote into school? We’re doing Lewis adn Clark right now
Weeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll….I suppose you COULD, but make sure to tell your teacher that I wrote it.
I LOVE HISTORY!!!!! I AM A HISTORY FREAK!!!!!!!!!
Particularly Lewisa and Clark, but that is a looooooooonnnnggg story.
man, if i was in the history group for my western region project, i could actually talk about something. i was in economics.
in 1994, a wonderous event happened. Everyone celebrated, and rejoiced, for I was born.
*chorus of alelua plays in background*
OK, so who wanted caveman info?
It just so happens that there’s currently a PB&J article on cavemen (sort of) mooted and under consideration by the Queen of Muses. Lobbying by MuseBloggers may result in its appearance (he says, evilly).
So, which period are we interested in? Palaeolithic? Mesolithic? Neolithic? Bronze Age? Iron Age? No, that’s only just pre-Roman. It’s modern stuff.
C’mon then. What do you want to know? How to build a barrow? Latest theories on burnt mounds? What?
New Stone Age is interesting
Mmm. I’ll need to look up the neolithic. I’m rusty. I’m dying to see some results form the newly discovered site at Stamford, though. They reckon they’ve found a settlement. That will throw a few spanners into the current textbooks.
Meanwhile, how about using the collective Museblog mind to come up with some more Burnt Mound theories? I know they’re Bronze Age, but they’re cool. See if you can come up with a better theory than the archaeologists.
All over Britain (well, in lots of Bronze Age sites, at least) there are big, shallow mounds, dated between about 1500 and 1000 BC. They consist of heat-shattered rocks, charcoal, and ash, but no animal bones. Two main theories so far :
1) It’s a cooking pit. They ate the cabbages and dead mammals, and then carefully removed the bones for – er- making bone ornaments? LOTS of bone ornaments?
2) It’s a sauna. There used to be a temporary structure over it which was made of twigs and thatch, or animal skins, or something that wouldn’t survive 3000 years, so it’s not detectable now. They built a big fire, got the rocks hot, then built the structure, chucked water over the rocks, sat inside and sweated a lot.
I have to say that Theory 2 has a lot going for it. But you lot may be able to do better. Any suggestions?
‘Course, if you want to do Neolithic stuff, you need to come over here (I keep saying that, don’t I?) . We got Stonehenge, of course, but there are also lots of burial chambers dotted about. Some of them have lost their mounds, and are just an arrangement of huge stones, others are remarkably intact. I crawled into one once. It was seriously scary.
Neolithic things are BOOORING. All you need to know about Stonehenge you can pick up from Flanders and Swann. “You may call it Megalithic culture, I call it vandalism!”
Burnt Mound seems to me like some sort of ritual site. Going with the sauna idea and the cooking pit. Or it could be tied in to some sort of governmental thing as well. As in, people would eat and use the sauna in some sort of ritual, to bring luck or whatever. I’ll have to do more research to really formulate a coherent, complete, and-here’s the catcher, eh?-distantly and remotely plausible theory on the mounds.
The Queen of Muses should definitely use the article. You can’t get enough Paul Baker in Muse. There, I even typed in all the little tags and was finicky in leaving the period-or full stop, have it your way-outside that. She’ll have to accept the article now. Mwahahahaha!
Oo, Ta for the nice comment, yer majesty. I’ll Pass it on to Her Other Majesty.
Neolithic ain’t boring. It’s the way it’s taught. And the fact that you lot don’t actually have any real sites over there that you can stare at, grasp the timescale and get your mind well and truly popped. Well, not unless you count native American sites, some of which were effectively neolithic up to about 1800.
Anyway, try flint knapping. That’ll give you another angle on supposedly primitive cavemen. If you can come up with a workable neolithic arrowhead in less than a month of futile atttempts, you’re doing well.
Do you get Ray Mears videos over there? He’s an Ex-SAS bloke, and now runs survival courses, but he’s not a military freak. He spends most of his time learning skills form indigenous people, but he did one amazing trek where he made a neolithic toolkit (bow & arrows, scrapers, fire flints, kindling, etc) and lived off the land for a couple of weeks. It became increasingly obvious that the average bod would need weeks of training and a lot of experience to follow suit. He also did tests on a reproduction neolithic hunting bow. The conclusion – it was more technologically advanced than the ones used at Agincourt, 5000 years later. So much for cavemen.
Yes! Neolithic article (or rather, an article on Neolithic stuff, as I don’t thing a Neolithic article would still be around today)
would be phantastique.
I think I’d go for the sauna idea. Otherise there would be more animal bones in the pits.
In the absence of any radical new ideas, I’m thinking sauna too. Unless it was an ingenious process for making gravel. Anyway, there’s a PB&J Bronze Age article pending. I don’t hink it contains burnt mounds, but it does have lots of other interesting stuff. If it doesn’t appear soon, pester Kokopelli. He probably wants it done in pink. He’s like that.
Kokopelli, will you make sure it gets in? And make it pink, please?
Come on Kokopelli, make sure it gets in pleeeeeeeeeaaaaase! (said in really whingy voice)
The pits could also have been experimental labratories where early humans tried to advance thier understanding and control of fire. Or explosives.
30 – Really? You can’t use Mr. Gonick’s Cartoon History as a source for papers in school? I think someone should start a petition to abolish that rule!
57 – Amen to that! Fortunately, I attend a school where history is taught in a truly inspiring way that brings out all of the logic and emotion, mostly due to the fantastic teachers I’ve been blessed with who are passionate about what they teach but also partly because the books have been, for the most part, interesting (my apologies if that was too much of a run-on sentence). For anyone who’s really interested in Roman history, I suggest Will Durant’s Caesar & Christ as a good book to study. It’s really long but it’s a well-written source uncensored by the bias committees who seem to plague more recent textbooks.
Unfortunately, while my school has given me an excellent, thorough, fascinating education in the details of Roman history, I am quite ignorant about everything else. If anyone has a question about Rome I can probably find an answer for it, though.
73 – *pesters Kokopelli*
So, why did Rome fall?
Someone removed a column. They never did find out who it was. Probably wanted it for a clothes prop or something.
LET THEM EAT CAKE!
Oh no, no, no! I got that wrong! Oh, whatever shall I do? *collapses onto bed, flutters expensive fan rapidly*
*wig with French Navy Ship model in it goes askew*
*whale bone hoopskirt crunches slightly*
I know!! Courier, scratch that! History will forever be under the impression that I said this:
LET THEM EAT PIE!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaha. My fwend once said it was because of lead poisoning from the pipes.
Only in soft water areas. Provided you’re pulling your drinking water from limestone aquifers or streams that run through limestone scenery, there should be enough lime in the water to produce a protective covering on a lead surface within a few weeks of installation. I know. I removed some residual lead piping from my house a couple of years ago. The cross section was amazing. Limestone pipe with lead outer casing. It’s a wonder the water got through at all.
Peace with Honor!
what exactly was the cold war? It’s confusing me.
It was a time when the US and Russia seemed poised on the brink of war, so they built up thier arsenals. If they both had enough weapons to turn each other into lakes, they reasoned, niether would dare risk war. Stupid, really.
Lots of people in Sweden built nuclear shelters in their back gardens. I doubt if they would have worked. Not many people in Britain did. It’s not that we felt less under threat from imminent annihilation, it’s just that we tend to deal with such things by making a nice cup of tea. We had quite enough of shelters in the second world war. I mean, what does one DO with a great big shelter when one isn’t using it? Growing beans or petunias up it really doesn’t achieve much.
For some odd reason, Mr. Baker remids me of Arthur Dent…..
I’m sure you’ll find an interesting use for a bomb shelter not being used someday, PB&J.
Can we talk about the middle ages on here, pwease? I think we really need to do that. I shall take the liberty of starting:
Anyone got any good plague stories?
hMMMMMmmmmm… I know that people thought that anything touched by water was plague infected, so they didn’t bathe. Yuchhhhhh.
Well, I could tell you about the latest research on the Great Plague, which squashes a few preconceptions.
A little town up in the north of England was almost wiped out by the Great Plague in the 17th century. One heroic bloke kept careful records – a plague diary, effectively. Epidemiologists have recently taken a good look at it, and at most of the surviving records from the much earlier Black Death. They also looked at modern outbreaks of bubonic plague, like the one that followed the San Francisco earthquake. The conclusions were interesting. The Great Plague and the Black Death were probably the same disease, but they weren’t bubonic plague. The symptoms don’t match, and no-one made any comment about hundreds of dead rats in the streets, which always happens with bubonic. The way it spread wasn’t consistent with transmission via rats and fleas, anyway. It spread person-to-person, but an infected person would feel fine, and go about their normal business for at least a fortnight. Then the horrific symptoms would appear, and he/she would be dead within three days, having infected lots of other people. The disease itself was something like Ebola, and it’s a nasty way to die.
There. That gruesome enough for you?
I read somewhere that there are 2 cases of bubonic plague every year in the US.
PP, thats really scary 0.o
My mom is an Epidemiologist. She actually knows about the BIRD FLU!!!!
77 – Lol that’s one of the really hard questions I can’t answer, but I can tell you what was said about it in class yesterday. There are a number of theories, but the ones we talked about put the fall of Rome into three categories: social/economic, political/military, and intellectual/moral causes. The basic idea that all the theories we studied agreed on is that Rome was collapsing from within because of poor leadership, insufficient funds, moral deterioration, apathetic and despondent people, and insufficient and unreliable military to protect such a vast empire. It couldn’t hold out against the invaders on the outside since it was already falling apart inside. I had to write an essay on it, but it’d be kind of long to post here, and it wasn’t very good. My teacher gave us a few websites that explain these theories in more detail if you’re interested. GAPA, am I allowed to post the links? If not, I won’t so you won’t have to zap them.
78 – I think that theory makes much, much more sense than all the rest of them.
90 – Does that mean that people transmitted the Plague, not rats? How do you find out all of these interesting things?
93 – As someone who actually knows what she’s talking about, does your mom think that the flu really will mutate, spread and kill a bunch of people, or is that just a stupid theory made up by the media to make people panic?
My mom thinks that the flu is a very real threat, and is actually being minimized to prevent panic. She thinks that what is being done by the administration is not enough, and I suspect she is the one who made my school give away the chickens. We have stockpiles of Tamiflu and face masks in the basement of our house.
my science teacher’s husband is an epidemiologist also
Thanks, PB&J. Ebola. Whoa. *shudders* Look at what it did to that one little village in Africa…
So Otzi, can you describe to me the avian flu? I never actually got the full story from anyone/thing. And could you please tell about what your mom thinks it could do to the industrialized world?
Hey everyone, this isn’t really about history, but it’s a socio-political thought that I had. It begins like this…
So my family uses this brand of salt called Jane’s Krazy Mixed-Up Seasonings . It’s really good, so one night at the dinner table, I look on the little label to see what the ingredients are. They read as follows:
Salt
Herbs and Spices
Dehydrated Onion
Dehydrated Garlic
I just go “Okay,” to myself for a minute, but then something comes back to me.
Herbs and Spices.
So then I’m all like, “Well, they really ought to list those herbs and spices more specifically, otherwise they could get sued if someone has a deadly allergic reaction to them, because they weren’t clearly stated on the packaging,”. But then a wilder, grander thought strikes me: what if, at some major international gathering, the chefs preparing the foodstuffs use this particular seasoning brand. Then, what if a world leader has a deadly allergic reaction to it, because the chefs don’t pay any mind to the lack of specific ingredients? And then, WHAT IF WE ARE LAUNCHED INTO A NUCLEAR WWIII BECAUSE THE MOURNING COUNTRY IS SO ANGRY AT THE OTHER COUNTRY THAT THEY CAN’T EVEN FORGIVE THEM FOR A MISTAKE IN THE PACKAGING ON THEIR CHOICE OF SALTS?!!!!!!!!!!!! AND IT’S NOT EVEN THE CHEFS’ NATION’S FAULT?!!!
My dad said I was a loony, but I think that it is very possible. What do you guys think?
The Avian Flu is a flu virus that has many similar symptoms to normal flu as well as coughing/wheezing. There is no known cure, and the majority of people who contract the disease die from it (This is what I remember…My mom isn’t here right now, so I’ll double check later..) for several days after contracted, the disease may be asymptomatic, which would prove a big headache for customs and immigration. As to what it would do to the industrialized world in the event of a pandemic, here is what I know: Kill lots of people, cause massive amounts of poultry to be destroyed and incinerated, spread quickly, and kill lots more people. Some county and state governments are stockpiling Tamiflu, which may help offset some symptoms if taken early on, designating stadiums to be used as emergency hospitals, and distributing instructions on how to ice down a corpse at home. (until the modern version of the death wagon gets there)
Cheery, aint it?
Meriwether Lewis was suppiosed to have “A countanace very similar to that of Napoleon”. Did he look like a Pregnant Man? we do not know.
Is bird/avian flu in America?
Not yet. However, Epidemiologists are iinvestigating a case where the flu may have jumped.
In ASIA.
yikes.
I feel bad for Asia…they have all the bad “bugs”
SARS, avian flu, they have it rough.
now, back to history…
ok. history….
how about the influenza pandemic in 1918!
Maybe we could have a seperate thread for Bird Flu?
yeah, that’s a good idea! We should have one for bird flu and other current illness type things
My grandpa was born in 1918.
Bird flu thread- Good Idea! I could see if I can make my mom post. Is that OK, GAPAs?
It is a good idea. Not today, though: we’re already over our new one-new-thread-per-day quota.
So, who killed the Princes in the Tower, then?
*slinks away as the arguments start*
Weren’t me, guv’ner. I was nowhere near the place.
It was YOU! J’ACCUSE!!!! *points dramatically at the PB&J*
*pats GAPA on head* I know deary, i know. We’ll find the naughty little boy who really did it, don’t worry.
Their uncle was behind it. He hired assassins to kill them by smothering them with mattresses so that he could assume the throne (That’s the problem with monarchies…)
Mmm. Maybe. But he was already on the throne. All he really got from the death of the Princes was some seriously bad press. On the other hand, he never denied it.
Have a look at the Wikipedia entry, which is excellent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_in_the_Tower
Shall we have a MuseBlog Whodunnit Vote?
That knight who killed the historian did it.
Can we have the new thread now? there hasn’t been a new thread yet today!
“Henry VII’s mother Margaret Beaufort, as Henry Stafford visited the Beaufort Castle earlier that year, and was possibly bribed to kill the princes. This is highly unlikely–at no time did Margaret Beaufort ever demonstrate the kind of character traits that would lead her to murder children.”
I think she did it! Maybe she was struggling with murderous impulses for years and, finally unable to control herself, went mad and killed the children.
Wouldn’t somebody have noticed her going mad after the fact? Or did she simply settle right back into normality (whatever that means) after she killed them?
I think it was Buckingham. His name sounds somewhat like “butler” as in “the butler did it” Don’t you think? “The buckingham did it!”
No. That’s insane. Ok.
No, but i do think he did it, mostly because there’s little evidence to the contrary, and something of a motive. I think. It’s rather late. Ok it’s not late at all, it’s rather early in the evening actually, but i’m dead so it feels late. Translation-I’m not really quite sure of anything because i’m dead and not particularly happy right now (see chameleon).
PP-*gasp* You haven’t had a new thread for a whole day??? Oh my! Golly gee! This is going in the scrapbook!
Don’t mind me. I’m old, sarcastic, tired, and dead. Not to mention procrastinating. Why i’m procrastinating, i’m not sure. Seeing as, y’know, i should have some vague idea of what i’m doing by 6 tomorrow…
History history history…what’re we doing in history? well, we’re learning about darfur and suchlike. Studying for exam, it’ll be 2nd exam we take. Not much else really.
for Science class, we’re reading a book callded The Hot Zone and it is about Ebola
it’s really REALLY disturbing so far, and I’m only on page 20.
PB&J, He sortof wa on the throne. He was thier caretaker. But they would take over as they aged, forcing him to give up his power. And no one lkes to give up power. He was trying to take preventive action.
ROME FELL BECAUSE THEY FLAVORED THIER WINE WITH LEAD!!!!!!!!
34: I don’t know, but it hit Crispus Attucks.
oops. I replied to that twice. hehehehehehehehehehehehehee
They flavored their wine with lead? what?
119- Oo. My sister had to read that. She came to the dinner table and said “no food for me right now thanks, dad, I don’t plan to eat for another 100 years or so”.
119 and 124- can you please post a link or way to get to one. I haven’t been disturbed since i read “The Giver” a year ago.
Post a link about what?
Also, Toxin is really disturbing. If you read it, prepare to never eat beef again (not that you ate it in the first place…)