“Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part One”: The Movie
If past Potter threads are any guide, this one will quickly grow as long as the book itself. Mind your spoiler warnings, please.
Date: November 18, 2010
Categories: The Universe
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Cat's Meow
in November 18th, 2010 @ 10:05My T-shirt is simply incredible, though I didn’t get a ton of sleep last night and my math homework is still unfinished. It says “I SOLEMNLY SWEAR…” and then there’s the best owl that I’ve ever drawn with puffy paint and then it says “THAT I’M UP TO NO GOOD”. I was going to put “I’m half giant!” (it’s funny ’cause I’m short) on one sleeve and “Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!” on the other, but I ran out of time. Yeah. It’s great.
A bunch of my friends and I are going at midnight (okay, 12:01am) tonight, and there’s apparently supposed to be 2000 or so people at the same theater as us. And that’s just one theater – I can only imagine how much of my school will be dead asleep on Friday.
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I-Man
in November 18th, 2010 @ 11:05I can’t wait
I’m either going to be going as a generic, no-name Ravenclaw who’s a big fan of The Quibbler or Luna Lovegood, depending on whether or not my parents change their minds.Unfortunately, I probably won’t be going to the midnight showing tonight, but I’ll be going tomorrow at 7:30 with two Heads of House from my school’s first official HP club and some other tag-along members
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muselover
in November 18th, 2010 @ 11:08I really hope David Yates gets it right this time. The reviews look promising. And it looks like they’ve taken out most of the camping scenes. *whew*
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Luna the Lovely
in November 18th, 2010 @ 13:00I don’t see how they can get it right, with the way they messed up the whole key plot points involving this movie, back in the sixth movie. And why would you be happy with them taking out most of the camping scenes? The whole point of making this into two movies was to make it truer to the book, not so they could take out more stuff. Oh, wait. Sorry. I forgot, the reason of making it two was so Warner Bros could get there hands on even more money, as if they’re not making enough on HP already.
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speller73
in November 18th, 2010 @ 14:36Not that I don’t want them to be true to the book, but if they showed every single one of those camping scenes, by the end, I would be ready to shoot someone. The horcrux-seeking medallion says they’re stupid, remember?
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starr
in November 18th, 2010 @ 21:06
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Beedle the Bard
in November 18th, 2010 @ 21:19“You’ve gotta buy two tickets…”
(Harry Potter literal trailer, anyone?”
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muselover
in November 19th, 2010 @ 20:29Although, according to IGN, they apparently assume you’ve read all the books, because Harry’s carrying around a piece of broken mirror for no reason the entire movie. At least, there’s no reason according to David Yates.
Of course, I’m still seeing it next week while I’m on THANKSGIVING BREAK!!!
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Mikazuki
in November 18th, 2010 @ 17:51…if they’ve taken out something, it takes away from the storyline, and If they add something in, it takes away from the book even more…
I will never be happy about anything being cut from a HP movie, ever, I don’t care if it’s boring and long and drags on and on, it will still be better with it.
*insert really long rant here that I have now deleted because I really need to stop getting so diostracted and buckle down and plunk out 3000 words on my NaNo* …
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Choklit Orange
in November 19th, 2010 @ 07:54Why would you be relieved that they took out the camping scenes?
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muselover
in November 19th, 2010 @ 20:26Ask Robert.
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Choklit Orange
in November 20th, 2010 @ 06:29Robert, why would you be relieved that they took out the camping scenes?
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in November 20th, 2010 @ 11:16I made an observation about them once.
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muselover
in November 20th, 2010 @ 21:25That’s actually what I was going off of.
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Thief of Light
in November 18th, 2010 @ 14:23I’ve just decided it’s going to suck already.
That way I’m not disappointed. :3
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Mikazuki
in November 18th, 2010 @ 20:58Oh, it so is. I have no idea if I’m even going…I suppose it will depend upon how badly my mom wants to see it. I’ll come if she really wants me to, but otherwise I’ll probably just wait until it comes out on DVD and throw popcorn at my tv while screaming at the mistakes they made…ah, good times, good times…
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Beedle the Bard
in November 18th, 2010 @ 18:15*sigh*
Not… going… at midnight. Can’t wait to see it Friday, though. I’m going to bring my wand, and my friends and I have been drawing the Deathly Hallows symbol on our hands for the past week.
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Bibliophile
in November 18th, 2010 @ 23:05I’m not going at midnight, either, sadly… I would have liked to, but I never expected to, because I know my parents wouldn’t want to stay up late enough, and I’ve no-one else to go with. I’m not dressing up (no time), but I can’t wait to go! I’ll probably go Friday, though I may have to go over the weekend instead if all does not go well…
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Cat's Meow
in November 19th, 2010 @ 06:24Ahhhhhhh it was awesome. Before the movie, we had to be in the theater by 11 or else we would have lost our seats, so people got quite bored waiting for it to start. Two guys (one in Gryffindor colors, one in Slytherin) got down in the aisle between the top part of the theater and the bottom and had a Wizard’s Duel, which got a lot of applause. They retired, and a few minutes later two more guys (one who was “Snape” and one dressed as Harry) had a wand battle across the entire theater. They were literally tripping over people as they dashed through the aisles, and everyone laughed when Harry tried to use Expecto Patronum on a person…”What a first-year!”, I heard from the row behind me.
I really liked it. My friend and I were reading advanced reviews on the Internet in class today, and it’s even clearer now that many were written by aged critics who have never read the books. One actually complained that the movie didn’t take the time to catch newbies up to speed. What, were you hoping for a 60 hour movie? I wouldn’t trust anything you read.
OH YEAH AND THERE WAS A MOVIE TOO.
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Yes, it was a little slow at times, but that does match the book, and, as Harry says, we can’t be expecting to find Horcruxes and destroy them every few days…I dunno, I just liked it. I’ll probably find more to talk about tomorrow. I’m too tired to think right now.The sight of nearly 2000 people streaming off the escalators at almost 3am was spectacular, especially when so many were wearing robes and house-colored ties and T-shirts and so on. I kind of felt proud to be a part of it.
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Luna the Lovely
in November 19th, 2010 @ 08:15I don’t think this first bit needs a spoiler warning: It was better than I expected, I actually don’t hate it, as it’s significantly better than HBP, but then again, I’m not as obsessed as I used to be, either. That said, there were several major things they caked up, and countless minor things, but overall I actually enjoyed it fairly well.
Now for spoilery bits.
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And while they killed Hedwig, they managed to still botch all of that up. Sure, it’s much more dramatic that Hedwig dive bombed a Death Eater and then got AK’d, but in the movie, they used this as the tip off as to who the real Harry was, they skipped the whole thing about it being the Expelliarmus charm that gave him away, which I thought was rather an important bit.
Harry never gave Kreacher the fake locket in the movie, thus never winning over his undying loyalty, and in the movie they had Dobby make an appearance with Mundugnus was brought back to Grimmauld place, which nearly had me screaming at the screen in pissed off rage….
The whole Ministry bit was totally messed up, Harry never took Mad’Eye’s eye like he was supposed to, as he did in the book, and he wasn’t under the cloak during the whole raid Umbridge’s office scene as he was in the book.
Oh, and when they Apparated to Tottenham Court Road right after the wedding, well, other than it not being called Tottenham Court Road in the movie, because, oh, wow, that would just be too difficult to keep that the same, I’m pretty sure they never said “Voldemort” that entire scene, so we don’t have any sort of explanation as to how the two Death Eaters found them, because if they didn’t say Voldemort, than they didn’t trigger the Taboo, and they did nothing to give themselves away. Plus, the whole Voldemort’s name being Taboo thing was never once mentioned.’
And the whole Horcrux thing, um, people, hello, while I don’t want you to fabricate a plot to address the fact that you caked up in the sixth movie and never had Dumbledore tell Harry what the Horcruxes were, completely dancing around and never broaching this subject is a totally lazy cop-out.
Godric’s Hollow, I was irritated that they didn’t Polyjuice themselves as they were supposed to, especially since they made this whole big conversation about this fact in the movie when they arrived there.
And that whole scene in the tent right after Ron left where Harry and Hermione start dancing? 1) that was a complete what the bleeding cake moment, for everyone in the theatre, I think, and 2) a waste of time they could have devoted to something actually in the book.
They didn’t have Peter Pettigrew kill himself as int he book, he just got Stunned, nothing else shown. Lame. He was supposed to try and kill Harry, hesitate a moment with his silver hand, resulting in it turning on him and choking him to death. That would have been a good scene.
Dobby, well, Dobby’s death they did quite well. I was overall pretty satisfied with how they did that, very similar to the book, although I was a smidge disappointed they skipped Luna’s touching speech at the burial.
And Grindelwald, I’m sure in teh book he sort of repented at the end, in that he didn’t sell Dumbledore out and tell Voldy where the Elder Wand was, but not so in the book, which makes me mad.
Oh, but the best part of the movie, the best part of the movie by far, because of the entire 7 movies thus far, it has to be the longest segment of time that the movie ahs corresponded 100% unfailing word for word to the book? The telling of “The Three Brothers”. I liked the whole way they did that little animation thing going to Hermione’s narration, and except for Harry not interrupting with “SOrry, but *Death* spoke to them?” I’m pretty damned sure that that was exactly the same as the book, making it the best scene in the whole movie. SEconded, perhaps, by Dobby’s death.
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Thief of Light
in November 19th, 2010 @ 12:58They did say Voldemort in the restaurant on Tottenham Court Road, by the way.
I don’t care. People got bloody and gory and screaming, so I’m fine with it. Pain is good!
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Luna the Lovely
in November 19th, 2010 @ 13:36DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
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Cat's Eye
in November 19th, 2010 @ 20:04DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Yeah, they did. I remember wondering about that, actually. They were sitting in that cafe, and I think it was just before the waitress came to ask them if they were going to order anything. I specifically thought back and made sure of it with my mind.
On your other comments: I dunno, I actually thought most of the changes were acceptable. Nice, even. Hedwig’s death gave me a better sense of closure than her sudden falling-over-lifeless-in-the-cage like in the book, and while I thought Harry’s desire to use Expelliarmus and not Stupefy was an interesting plotline, J.K. never really developed that conflict (b/n not murdering and saving the universe, or whatever), so I thought it was… okay.
The fact that Harry never got the realization “Oh, you have to treat house-elves nicely to get them not to hate you!” with Kreacher was deeply, deeply annoying to me, so I’m with you there. The moments when Kreacher switches loyalties are a very powerful representation of one of the main problems in the wizarding world: that house-elves, goblins, centaurs, and other non-wizards are pretty much treated like scum, just because they’re not wand-carriers. The movie just erased that. Sigh.
Though Harry didn’t take Mad-Eye’s eye, I actually loved the Ministry scene. It was all very Orwellian and gothic, and the bit with all the women working on printing presses discrediting Muggles, all uniform and robotic, gave me shivers. I wish they’d expanded on that! In the book they had a more thorough description of those pamphlets, and the inspections that were going on, which was fascinating. But the interrogation scene was just absolutely wonderful, the dementors and “I must not tell lies” and such was brilliant.
I thought the dancing scene was very sweet, actually. What I really wanted out of the movie’s treatment of the Harry-Ron-Hermione dynamic was a very clear definition of the Harry-Hermione relationship, which is “She’s like a sister. I love her like a sister. I always have. I thought you knew.” And that scene was both wonderfully sweet and wonderfully platonic.
I am really, really mad about Peter Pettigrew’s lack of death. That small moment of mercy, in the books, really helped make J.K.’s point: love conquers all, goodness triumphs, etc. And I’ve always felt sorry for Peter, and it kills me to have him made into this one-dimensional, weaselly traitor.
And I was so, so, so, so angry that they didn’t spend time on the Grindelwald storyline. They had better devote a LOT of time to that in Part Two, because that was such an awesome part of Book 7, that Dumbledore wasn’t perfect and he was just as human as Harry. And I’m also furious that Grindelwald betrayed Dumbledore in the movie, since I believe that when you get right down to it they were best friends, always best friends, and it absolutely killed Dumbledore to have to go and defeat Grindelwald for the greater good. And in the book, when Grindelwald dies rather than tell Voldemort that Dumbledore ended up with the Elder Wand, I get major warm fuzzies. You killed my warm fuzzies, movie! You killed my warm fuzzies!
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 24th, 2010 @ 17:04They left out a lot of the Harry/late-Dumbledore tension. Maybe in the second part?
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Choklit Orange
in November 19th, 2010 @ 20:38They said Voldemort, but they didn’t put a lot of emphasis on the word.
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Beedle the Bard
in November 19th, 2010 @ 17:17Going to see HP at seven! My friends are getting tickets an hour early, and I already bought mine. I hope it doesn’t sell out…
I’m wearing my dirigible plum earrings that I made during English (they’re beaded, like the ones in the movie, except mine are better.) and am bringing my wand. So. Excited.
The sad thing is that I don’t have any other stuff to dress up in. I don’t even have any dark blue to represent my dear house.
But. It will be fun. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Choklit Orange
in November 19th, 2010 @ 20:41The only bad thing I could find about the movie was the people next to me- a couple, the female part of which seemed to think it her duty to loudly predict what was going to happen in a whisper that projected around the entire theater, and the male part of which was intent on kissing her and making extremely distracting “mwah mwah” noises.
Yeah, but the movie was incredible!
Argh. One of my dirigible plum earrings broke.
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agrrrfishi
in November 19th, 2010 @ 22:36I JUST GOT BACK. OH MY GOSH.
That was, beyond a doubt, the best movie yet in the series. But I cried at the end, when…well, people who have seen it know why.
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☼Zinc the sorceress☼
in November 20th, 2010 @ 02:31SPOILERS! Firsts are minor.
Okay, best addition in the series would have to be dear George saying “‘Allo.” ACH, GINNY STOP ACTING SO FLIRTISH. And Fred+George+holey= not as I thought it in my head. Tom Felton got hot, and etc.
*dead*
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Choklit Orange
in November 20th, 2010 @ 06:32SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART ONE SPOILERI just watched it again! (my friend didn’t want to go by herself, and I obliged).
It was almost as good the second time, with a much better fellow audience- the whole theater was laughing at Rupert Grint and in tears when Dobby died. Just at the time that Bellatrix Lestrange was torturing Hermione, a toddler somewhere in the back began screeching in unison with Hermione.
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 24th, 2010 @ 17:05I thought Emma Watson’s tortured scene was really good. She acted it very well.
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pie girl
in November 20th, 2010 @ 14:18I SAW IT!
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We laughed our heads of when Harry and Ginny were kissing, and George was like, tiptoeing in, and Ginny looked and sees him sipping tea, and he’s like, Ello. I was sooo angry, I had to go use the bathroom, and when I came back it’s like *POOF*, Ron was gone, I missed everything he said. It was scary, when we were like ‘ Whew, no more Nagini.”
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Tesseract
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I actually really liked it. They did a vastly better job of sticking to the books than they have in the past. They left out stuff, obviously, but none of it was as tremendously significant as say, leaving out the mirror (which they stuck in the movie without a word of explanation as to how Harry got it or what it was–what?). For one thing, they took out basically every time the invisibility cloak was used. I thought that was a bit of a strange decision–you’d want to emphasize it seeing as it’s a hallow. I did like, however illogical it was considering they were on the run, Harry’s justification for why he didn’t want to go in disguise to Godric’s Hollow. “I was born here. I’m not returning as someone else.” I think that captured his feelings towards the place well.
It did bother me that they changed the scene with Kreacher and the scene with Pettigrew. As Cat’s Eye said, those were both important parts of the book, not for plot but for moral reasons. They show the power of love, in a way, which is really one of the main themes of the book. I mean really, Dumbledore only says it six thousand times.
The dancing I have mixed opinions about. On the one hand, what the heck? On the other, it was a sweet moment for Harry and Hermione: platonic, as has been said, but underscoring the strength of their relationship. I think it contributes to the strength of the movie as a movie, but when it comes to the movie as part of the Harry Potter phenomenon it was a little strange.
The lack of the Taboo is another weak point. How are these people continually finding Harry & Co? I guess it would have taken more screen time of explanation to put it in, but it seems like a bad thing to cut. Stuff just doesn’t make as much sense without it. Maybe it’ll be explained in Part 2 but I don’t think “Voldemort” was said at the times Death Eaters appeared, so I dunno.
Also, they haven’t thus far put much emphasis on Harry and Dumbledore’s relationship. A big part of the book was Harry coming to terms with the fact that really, he didn’t know Dumbledore the way he thought he did. It was thrown in there during the wedding, but Harry hasn’t read The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore so far as we can tell, and he hasn’t been dealing with the same “do I follow what this man who has clearly never told me the whole truth has left for me” sort of thing.
Dobby’s death was wonderfully done, I thought. His little speech in Malfoy Manor was a bit corny, but it was so Dobby, and then his death was (as in the book) one of the only ones that they truly let sink in. Needless to say, I was crying, just as I was when I read it. I cried when Hedwig died too; I actually approve of the decision to have her die defending Harry and the Order. She’s never been exactly just a bird, and that helps emphasize that. (Oh, also in re: Luna’s speech when Dobby died, I thought that that whole scene in the book itself was lacking, actually. She just basically says “thanks for saving us” and somehow she has “said it all” for Harry? Dobby and Harry have a rich history and Harry could have definitely come up with something more to say than a couple average sentences.)
On the whole, as I said, I really liked it. They didn’t cut out major scenes or sub-plots, and it was a captivating movie with some wonderfully done scenes. Good job, finally.
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starr
in November 20th, 2010 @ 16:15DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
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So I just got back from the movie…OHMIGOD. The first thing that ran through my head is that it was SO cakin’ emotional for me, and yet, when I left, I felt this almost…emptiness. As in, I really don’t want this whole thing to end…HP has had such an impact on my life in general, and thinking that someday we’re just going to be looking back on this series, and it’s all going to be “used-to-be’s” and just another part of history..it’s just breaking my heart. No matter how much better the books are than the films (which, yes, I still think they are….although this was the best film in the series so far in my opinion) the films are just so important to the whole she-bang, like it or not, and this was just generally really emotional and touching and all that.
I had to hold back tears pretty much throughout the whole film, until finally they got to Dobby’s death at the end and I just lost it. It was just too sad, and I am not normally an emotional person during movies, but this just struck me so hard I couldn’t take it.
The ending was caking annoying though. I mean, I didn’t mind it, it just annoyed me. As in, why-the-cake do they have to end it there!? I guess I just wasn’t really expecting as much of a cliffhanger as it really was, but I guess that’s to be expected when you’re a money making machine. I still am in shock that we have to wait until July (right?) to get the last part. In which case I’m going to need several tissue boxes.
But emotional stuff aside, yeah, I liked it. They did stay *relatively* close to the book, or at least with which events they used. (as in, they didn’t just throw a whole new sequence in there that I can think of, like with the burning of the Burrow in HP6)
Other random scenes: Ginny and Harry kissing…meh. Knew it was coming and didn’t really care, but George was funny. Dumbledore’s will was extremely un-dramatic, which was disappointing. Harry and Hermione’s little dance scene was ridiculous (my first thought was actually “what the heck did they just cut to some weird commercial or something”. it just felt SO out of place) and yet, I still liked it. I thought it was really pretty sweet, and the film needed that sort of emotional release anyway. The Bathilda Bagshot snake part was quite scary and had the whole theater jump about a mile, but besides that, I was happy that it wasn’t *too* frightening, since I’m usually a wimp about that stuff.
Can’t think of anything else for now, but I’m sure more will come to me.
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Beetles and Drakon (^_^)
in November 20th, 2010 @ 21:20The entire sixth grade in my school was going to get to see it, including me, but it got canceled because some parent said they didn’t want their kid seeing PG-13 movies, so I don’t get to see it! I’M SO MAD! Besides, my favorite movie of all time is rated R.
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Mikazuki
in November 20th, 2010 @ 23:06Your grade was going to go see it? That’s awesome! What school do you go to?!
Seriously? Just don’t let your kid come if you don’t want them to see a PG-13 movie! Why ruin it for everyone else?
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Beetles and Drakon (^_^)
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 17:52I know, right?
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Piggy
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It was a pretty good movie, at least for a person who has read the books. I’d imagine that a person who hasn’t would be entirely lost the whole time. The writers obviously made the assumption that their audience would know what was going on. Except in one part, which annoyed me greatly: towards the beginning, when Ron runs out of the Burrow to stop Harry from running away. As they’re walking back in, Ron spouts out a series of stupid questions that just HAPPEN to explain what the goal of the trio will be for the movie. I thought that was rather lazy writing. I chuckled at an irony I saw: at one point Hermione explains to Harry that she’s very logical, so she can see through unimportant things; and then, for the entire rest of the movie, she’s perpetually overemotional. Oh, the irony.
I didn’t quite like the story of the Three Brothers, though–specifically, the animation style. For a separate piece the style was fine, but it seemed unrelated to the rest of the movie when put in context. The animation style just didn’t quite meld in.
I felt the Dobby death was a bit overdone, but I guess they had to have something to end the movie with.
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starr
in November 21st, 2010 @ 12:23DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWSI’m actually with you on the Three Brothers animation style. I was thinking about that earlier but didn’t really know just quite how to put it into words, but I agree with what you said completely. The animation itself was pretty well done, but it definitely didn’t blend it with the rest of the movie, or anything the previous movies have ever done before… I’m happy they kept the whole story in the film, though.
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starr
in November 21st, 2010 @ 12:24Ah, sorry. I didn’t do a spoiler warning, did I? *headdesk*
[Fortunately, Spoiler Gnome was passing by.]
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Choklit Orange
in November 20th, 2010 @ 23:54DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
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I absolutely loved the scene in which Harry and Ginny kiss, and George sneaks across the kitchen and greets them with a, “Mooorning…”
The only part I didn’t like was the lack of Snape scenes- yes, there aren’t many in the book, but he’s an important character, and J.K. practically wrote Snape for Alan Rickman. I’ll really miss Snape as the evil, sardonic, cruel overlord, as he is in the first several books, because now that he’s all conflicted and good and loving, it’s hard to enjoy the Alan Rickman-ness of it all.
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starr
in November 21st, 2010 @ 12:27DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWSThis isn’t really a spoiler, but just to be careful I put it there…
Snape’s hair looked different. I guess that was done on purpose, but it looked poofier in HP7 than in the rest. Is he just supposed to frazzled? Or was that just me?
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Luna the Lovely
in November 21st, 2010 @ 14:25DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWSYes, floofier than normal. it was looking especially sexy in that scene at Malfoy Manor in the beginning of the movie.
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SudoRandom
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 21:15DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWSGuys, they clearly changed his hair to match that of Joe Moses!
(Guys, this clearly requires a spoiler warning!)
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Tesseract
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 21:40What the Devil is going on heeeeeeeeere?
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Maths Lover ♥
in November 21st, 2010 @ 00:38So we’re allowed to have a thread for a specific fandom if it’s Harry Potter?
I haven’t seen the movie yet because I’m not really a HP fan(I’ve read the books now, but I haven’t seen the other movies) and we’re going to see it on one of my friends’ birthdays next week. But I actually am looking foward to it.
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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)
in November 21st, 2010 @ 01:19HP qualifies as a cultural phenomenon.
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Piggy
in November 21st, 2010 @ 07:55Besides, it would have taken over the rest of the ‘Blog if it hadn’t its own thread.
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Tesseract
in November 21st, 2010 @ 10:01Harry Potter is my childhood.
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KaiYves- Go, STS-133!
in November 21st, 2010 @ 15:37I think I can safely say that it’s most of our childhoods.
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Beedle the Bard
in November 21st, 2010 @ 17:04I remember when I first found Harry Potter in fifth grade. I was completely hooked. Enamored. Obsessed. I used to read it in my lap under my desk; the teacher would always get mad at me, but nothing could keep me away from my books. And then I stayed up all night on my eleventh birthday for my letter from Hogwarts. I knew it was stupid, and I wasn’t getting my owl, but there was always that little bit of doubt in my mind that kept me up. It just was… magical, for lack of a better word. And you know what? It still is.
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Cat's Eye
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 12:42I’m still waiting for my letter. It just got lost in the mail. It’ll come.
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Mikazuki
in November 21st, 2010 @ 17:33Mine too. My parents used to not let me read the books, because I used to get really bad nightmares, so I stolke the books from them and read them in secret. Until they finally realized it was a losing battle.
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KaiYves- Go, STS-133!
in November 21st, 2010 @ 18:54Chamber of Secrets freaked me out. Really badly.
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Mikazuki
in November 21st, 2010 @ 19:57Me too. I still have a fear of bathrooms with multiple stalls and if any of them have a faucet that doesn’t work, I start freaking out.
But I already had nightmares about skunks (Don’t ask. I have a phobia of skunks.) so baslisks were a welcome change…
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KaiYves- Go, STS-133!
in November 21st, 2010 @ 20:54“Her skeleton will lie in the chamber forever”.
*shivers* scaryscaryscary…
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Mikazuki
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 19:07None of the other books bothered me at all, strangely, not even the 7th one (I didn’t read them in order so I was on OotP when I started to sneak-read my mom’s copy), but CoS was creeeeeeeeepy….
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Bibliophile
in November 21st, 2010 @ 21:27I was never much bothered by CoS for some reason. It was GoF that really scared me, at least when I first read it. I was 8 at the time, but I couldn’t even finish it until about a year later, which is a pity because I’d always loved them so much…
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Cat's Meow
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 18:21GoF plus the very start of OotP (with the dementors) scared me the most. I was in fourth grade when I read those, and I was so freaked out that I didn’t finish OotP until about a month before DH came out (when I was in seventh grade).
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Choklit Orange
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 04:46I could never watch that movie without at least five other people nearby.
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Errata
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 18:42I was okay with the CoS movie, but I was really too young when I read the book, and I was terrified by it. It’s still one of my least favorite.
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Luna the Lovely
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 18:53None of them scared me. I’d say it was because I was older, but I wasn’t that old when I first started the books. I think I was 8, possibly 9 when I read the first one, and then I must have read the next two pretty quick after that, the 4th is the only one I remember we had to wait at all, but I wasn’t obsessed yet or anything. I was 10 for it, but it didn’t scare me at all….
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Bibliophile
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 23:26I was 8 when I read the first 3, and started the 4th. I couldn’t finish it, but when I read the rest of the series at 9 (or maybe 10?), it didn’t at all scare me, either; it just had before, when I’d been 8…
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bookgirl_me
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 11:04You guys know what? I was in first grade when I first started reading Harry Potter. The final movie will come out the year before I graduate and then it’ll be …over. It has accompanied me all through school.
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Choklit Orange
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 04:36The commercials called it “the movie event of a generation,” which I think is true. Everyone I know grew up with Harry Potter.
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bubbles
in November 21st, 2010 @ 13:35DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER SPOILER SPOILERI saw it on Friday…still trying to decide how I feel about it. The writers obviously assumed you had memorized the book – not a problem here, but still.
WHY WASN’T EXPELLIARMUS THE GIVEAWAY? AAAAH!
Mundungus Fletcher was nothing like he is in the books. He’s supposed to be ginger haired, if I remember correctly, but he definitely wasn’t Middle-Eastern.
They totally left out Kreacher becoming nice, and all the plans they made to get into the Ministry (although I must say, Umbridge’s ferret scarf thingy was hysterical). I was also irritated that Harry didn’t take Moody’s eye from her door.
The Tales of Beedle the Bard was supposed to be in its original runes, I’m pretty sure, but it was in English in the movie. Hmph.
They made Hermione pretty feminine, which was one of the most irritating things they could have possibly done. I never got the impression that Ron liked her because she was attractive, rather, he liked her for what was under the surface. They’re roughing it in forests, and she manages to look pretty the entire time. Urgh. She doesn’t really beat Ron up when he comes back, she’s just sort of flailing at him with a rucksack.
When they go to the Lovegoods’ house, and after Xenophilius alerts the Death Eaters and they all show up, the bit where Hermione makes sure they’re seen never happened.
I really liked the animation that went with The Tale of the Three Brothers, but it just seemed out of place in that movie. Its style was very different from that of the rest of the movie.
At Malfoy Manor, I don’t think Bellatrix ever cut “mudblood” into Hermione’s arm, but I think it worked out pretty well all the same. You certainly got the psycho vibe Bellatrix has. Helena Bonham Carter was perfect as always.
They never really got into the what Shell Cottage actually was, and I missed Luna’s speech when they buried Dobby.
Why was Dumbledore buried in a Frank Lloyd Wright-esque tomb on some random island? WHY??? It specifically states that Dumbledore was the only headmaster to be buried on Hogwarts grounds! Grrr.
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Mikazuki
in November 21st, 2010 @ 13:52SORT OF A DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILERY WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
One of the things that annoys me the most about all of the movies is that Hermione always looks pretty and perfect. Hermione is not an extremly beautiful, girly character. She has huge front teeth and really bushy hair, which they never really show. It’s just not right! Plus Harry’s eyes are blue, not green, which is a big thing, RAR!!! And they could change it with computerization, so they really don’t have an excuse. …and Harry has a beard. A very small one, but still. I burst out laughing.
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starr
in November 21st, 2010 @ 18:00SORT OF A DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I agree – pretty much every single one of Hermione’s outfits looked amazing, despite the fact that they were camping in the middle of nowhere throughout the film. My friend and I turned to each other when almost every new scene opened and Hermione was wearing yet another outfit and rolled our eyes. I mean, Emma Watson looked amazing and everything, just because she’s gorgeous like that, but in my opinion it was more Emma than Hermione. As far as appearance goes, she hasn’t really truly held the part of busy hair/big teeth since the 1st or 2nd film. After that, I think the makeup/hair designers just sort of decided to keep her as is. That never really bothered me too much (Emma is so pretty! Girl crush…) but still, you’re right.
And Harry’s beard was funny. I did laugh.
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Piggy
in November 21st, 2010 @ 18:35SORT OF A DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Could it be that Hermione grew out of her awkwardness?
But they have abandoned wizard clothing altogether. Just muggle clothes now.
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starr
in November 21st, 2010 @ 18:55SORT OF A DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Maybe Hermione did just grow out of her awkwardness – not sure how describe that was in the books, but it’s a fine idea for how the movies have played out. Hm. I’m not sure. I sort of pictured her while I was reading the books as still having the poofy hair and everything up til HP7, but that was just my vision of it.
I don’t particularly remember her ever being described as feminine though, and I agree with Mikazuki in that she did seem more feminine in this film than in the others. I didn’t necessarily dislike that, though. Emma Watson did a good job, as did Daniel Radcliffe and everyone, so thumbs up to them. (And Rupert, whatever. I feel like I have to mention all of them now.) I should have mentioned that in my earlier post.
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Mikazuki
in November 21st, 2010 @ 19:08SORT OF A DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Piggy-No. She shrinks her teeth in the fourth book, but her hair is still crazy. And they are lazy and I don’t even think that they read the books that well; they don’t bother with important details at all. I’ve never understood the muggle clothes thing-it’s about wizards, so..yeah.
Starr-Yeah, Emma Watson is really pretty and awesome and everything! She’s not really Hermione in the movies though. And they really need to stop having everyone in movies be beautiful and perfect and everything…
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SudoRandom
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 21:56DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER SPOILER SPOILEROkay, I agree that some of these things should not have been changed, but most of them are superficial/for the best and I think they were totally reasonable:
1) Agreed, it would have been nice to work in the Expelliarmus, but he didn’t use it in the battle, so… (Admittedly, it would have been easy as cake to work in, so this isn’t much of an excuse. I’d also say they didn’t want to spend time on what wasn’t all that important (in their eyes) to the plot, but they’re making this book into two movies. They could have fit it in.)
2) This seems fairly superfluous. I thought the actor who played Mundungus was fine. Then again, that’s just me.
3) I was definitely upset that Kreacher didn’t turn nice, although it’s explainable, as they would probably have had to give that whole story about Regulus retrieving the locket and such, which they didn’t really have time for. They also didn’t really have time to explain the Ministry plans. It would have been nice for Harry to have taken the Mad Eye, yes, but it would be dissatisfying if it never showed up again, even if it was just Harry showing Ron and Hermione, and again, there just wasn’t time.
4) Superfluous.
5) That was a bit annoying, yes. But that’s just generally how Hollywood works. The audience likes Pretty People, and that’s the way it is. Maybe it would have been nice for her to slap Ron, but I think her rage came across pretty well either way.
6) Same here. I was disappointed, but it wouldn’t really have fit with the timing and spacing.
7) The exact same here.
8 ) Yeah, I think that was a reasonable change. It sounds like you do too.
9) Shell Cottage: Most people know what it is, and those who don’t will find out in the next movie. I don’t really know why they did it that way, because it wouldn’t have been hard for Ron to explain it to Harry in the basement instead of just nodding, and wouldn’t have taken up any time. Maybe for suspense? Don’t know what they were reaching for with this one.
10) Well, I thought the tomb was accurate (it looked pretty much like how it was described in the book) and I had assumed it was an island in the lake at Hogwarts. That certainly seems the most practical place to put a tomb on the Hogwarts grounds.Just my thoughts. I was very happy with this movie, much more than the others, anyway, and I’ll be excited to see the second half.
(Oh, and Rupert Grint is clearly the best looking. For some reason my friends are obsessed with Tom Felton. :roll:)
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Vendaval
in November 21st, 2010 @ 14:57DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING.
I think most people have the same thoughts:
Cutting out a lot of stuff is understandable, but there are some things that should have been kept, namely Harry taking Moody’s eye, Luna’s speech, expelliarmus as the reveal, and Kreacher’s turnaround.
Leaving out other things is ok, because people who have read the books [people watching the film] know what’s going on (for example, the Taboo).
The animation was good, although not in quite the same style as the movie.
Harry and Hermione’s dancing was not in the book, but a good addition.I’m happy with it!
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Jadestone
in November 21st, 2010 @ 17:15DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING.
Re: Three Brothers Tale:
I absolutely LOVE the way it was done. I thought the animation style and color tones were perfect for it. It’s a fairy tale, so having it acted out/filmed would have made it seem too real (even though we discover it’s true in some form). Animation style is hard to get right and it could have ruined it, but I thought it worked splendidly and was a great contrast.
I really, really liked the movie. I was surprised HOW much I liked it, though I did go in with mediocre expectations. They left out some stuff I would have liked, and while the suspenseful parts were great, sometimes the action that came after was a bit anticlimactic (like at the ministry, when just the one guy was WALKING angrily after them).
I would definietely have liked to see more done with Kreacher : /
But I loooooved Bellatrix. She is forever my favourite. SO EVIL AND INSANE. The part where she wrote “mudblood” on Hermione wasn’t in the book but I thought was so great for her character. I wish they’d kept the line where she talks about hurting her and “then we’ll see how filthy her blood really is” though. But yeah. Bellatrix love. It was so conflicting though because she is on the wrong side and hurting the peopel I was cheering on but she’s just such a ****. Keep in mind I was dressed up as her for the premier XD
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 24th, 2010 @ 17:11I never liked HBC as Bellatrix. She comes off as too aggressive in the movies. In the books she’s a quieter kind of sadistic. But on her own, as a movie character separated from the book character, I think she fits well in the movie.
I also loved the animation; it was unexpected.
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Midnight Fiddler
in November 21st, 2010 @ 19:43DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I saw it. At the midnight premiere. And I’m just now writing about it…yeah.
I liked it. I totally agree with what everyone’s saying about it not standing alone at all, and that’s what sucks about it being in two pieces, because a lot of the things in the beginning of the book don’t get revealed until the end. Obviously, that’s a big part about what stories are about, it makes them interesting. J.K. Rowling is great at bringing all these threads together in the end, but since the end of the movie isn’t the end one ends up with a fair amount of frustration to not have things cleared up, even when you know what they are.
I, for one, was disappointed that they never cleared up the Taboo on Voldemort’s name to explain why snatchers randomly showed up every time it was mentioned. I mean, I know why, but I wish they would have mentioned it. *sigh*
Also, Harry giving Kreacher the fake locket, I didn’t remember that until Luna mentioned it (it’s been too long since I had a HP reading marathon, and I’m rusty. It’s shameful), but after reading it I remember that Kreacher dies for Harry in the last battle, and it’s a really touching moment. No idea how they’re going to fix that one.But at any rate, I’m going to go see it again with some friends soon, so when I get back I’ll probably have more opinions.
Whoo, unsubmitted comments!
So, after watching it a second time….
The Dursley’s leaving could have been better, Dudley finally showing some sort of emotion for someone other than himself. The whole “so we’ve been horrible to you since forever, but you actually are family, and that means something, at least” bit.
That said, I think that showing Hermione wiping her parent’s memories along with the Dursley’s leaving and Ron standing outside of his house was a powerful start. You know that these three are going to be basically leaving the world, but it helps to show that they realize what they have to do, and how hard it is to be thrown into chaos, but how much harder because they no longer have any connection to any semblance of normalcy, except each other.
I’d never thought before of just how much Hermione had to leave, with Harry, his family was dead and the family that he left behind he wasn’t that fond of anyway, with Ron, he lost some family members and there was a constant uncertainty about how his family was, but for Hermione to have absolutely no family support at all, and to have done that herself, that was an incredible step.
So I think the beginning was good in that regard.
I wish they would have mad it a little bit clearer that it was Harry’s Birthday the day of the wedding, which allowed him to apparate with the others without fear of the Trace.
When they went to Godric’s Hollow, I was disappointed that they didn’t have the sculpture and the memorial of the Potter house. In the book Harry sees his old house and all of the graffiti that supporters had written was an encouragement to him in a rough time. Also, that’s how they found Bathilda Bagshot, because she saw the house as well, not jsut because she happened to be there. The lack of Polyjuice potion there bothered me as well, but I do understand Harry’s reason, and so I can allow for that.
At the Lovegood’s house….there was nothing about the Eurumple horn, and in the book Xenophilius doesn’t admit that the death eaters have taken Luna until it’s forced out, correct?
And the whole discussion about the invisibility cloak, it’s not that clear that there’s only one such true object, and the trio wonders if it’s Harry’s. The discussion of the Elder Wand, and how wands go from owner to owner also wasn’t there.
As well as their doubt that the sign actually meant anything to do with the Deathly Hallows or that they all existed. (Yes, I have the book open on my lap as I write this).
They never really said what Shell Cottage was, and it seemed rather strange that they’d be so free around a house, with no explanation of who’s it was, since they pretty much tried to avoid people the whole time. And Teddy Lupin, there was no announcement of his birth or that Harry was the godfather.
*sigh*I still like the movie though, and I appreciate that they stuck closer this time. I’m also realizing how many details I’ve forgotten, I really need to reread the series again…..
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Luna the Lovely
in November 21st, 2010 @ 23:45(In response to Midnight Fiddler) DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Harry’s birthday was actually the day before the wedding, in the book.
Re: Lovegoods: Erumpet horn, dearest.
As for Teddy Lupin, they could still make that announcement–I reread the book exactly up to the point that the movie ended, and Teddy Lupin’s birth was not announced in the book until the chapter following the movie’s end, I believe, so it is possible that while they are at Shell Cottage in the beginning of the second half, it will still be brought up.
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Choklit Orange
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 04:43NOT REALLY A SPOILER BUT STILL HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART ONE SPOILER ALERT IS ANYONE WHO HASN’T AT LEAST SEEN THE MOVIE GOING TO COME ON HERE ANYWAY SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
*cough* Erumpent. Described by Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them as a rhinoceros-like beast with a magic-repelling hide and a sharp horn that injects explosive fluid into anything it touches… sorry. On a HP marathon at the moment.
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Luna the Lovely
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 14:43Er, yes, that. It’s always guaranteed when you correct someone that you’ll manage to be wrong, too. Like all the people correcting grammar on other sites, they always have grammar errors in their correction comment, lol.
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Robert Coontz (Administrator)
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 15:08We can call that Luna’s First Law of Human Interaction.
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SudoRandom
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 16:56I thought Luna’s First Law of Human Interaction was “just because a girl is eating by herself in the caf, does not mean she wishes an unknown male to invite himself to her table, and subsequently strike up conversation with her”?
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Luna the Lovely
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 17:15I love you guys.
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Beedle the Bard
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 17:24So, shall we revise?
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Luna’s First Law of Human Interaction:
“Just because a girl is eating by herself in the caf, does not mean she wishes an unknown male to invite himself to her table, and subsequently strike up conversation with her.”
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Luna’s Second Law of Human Interaction:
“It’s always guaranteed when you correct someone that you’ll manage to be wrong, too.”
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Vendaval
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 19:19Would it matter if the unknown person were female?
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Piggy
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 20:40The law doesn’t hold true for unknown females.
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Vendaval
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 22:10Ehhhh?
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Piggy
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 22:25I–I admit I don’t understand the intention behind this exhalation.
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Vendaval
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 14:26I’ve been a bit confused by the adverse reaction to “unknown males” striking up conversation. I mean, I see it as just a lonely dude who wants to make friends. Is there anything wrong with that? So upon further consideration I realized that gender might have something to do with it. Are romantic hopes implied? Why does the law not hold true for females? Would it be alright if an unknown female tried to strike up conversation?
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Beedle the Bard
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 16:07Vendy- I’m pretty sure that the law holds true for everyone, but especially when the talker is male and the talk…ee(?) is female. Most of the time, I don’t like when people randomly talk to me either. I feel like they’re mocking me (yes, I know, I have issues) or they think that I have no friends.
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Piggy
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 16:11Vendy- The whole thing’s a reference to a Luna anecdote. It’s all in jest, don’t get worked up.
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Luna the Lovely
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 17:06Vendy–Yes, if the unknown individual is male, it’s more of an annoyance, and probably yes, because there is some sort of romantic hope implied. If it’s an unknown female, it’s still annoying, but usually the only time unknown females come and sit down is when there are absolutely no empty tables, and they just want somewhere–anywhere–to sit and eat their food.
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Vendaval
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 18:48This is partially my own reaction to moving to a new place for college; I’m too often lonely. The most often given advice is to just try to meet people by talking to them, which I think is pretty sound. So it’s disheartening when I find negative reactions to male friendliness (this is not the only instance I’ve come across in recent weeks, not to mention the semirelated fear of pedophiles). Beedle, I’m sorry it’s uncomfortable for you, it’s uncomfortable for me too (on both sides)! I think the best approach might be to assume that people generally have good intentions (or that they at least don’t notice you). Piggy, I know it’s in reference to Luna’s post and that it’s in jest, but that is exactly the problem. It seems like jesting that’s subtly sexist, which I don’t think would happen if gender roles were reversed. Luna, please don’t take offense, but you come off to me as cold, in public places. I enjoy solitude, and often eat alone, but I don’t hold it against friendly faces. Maybe it’s because I’ve never been hit on, a point Sudo makes that resonates well- I would just hate to see all unknown males as romantically hopeful and all unknown females as completely self-minded.
Sorry for hijacking Potter’s thread. I’m not in a very good state of mind, and this topic has been perplexing me ever since it was first made. I hope I haven’t offended anyone, the attitude just seems somehow sexist and tragic- as well as hitting home particularly hard for me, in an already troubling situation.
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SudoRandom
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 16:48Actually, I think it depends on whether or not they’re hitting on you.
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Luna the Lovely
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 18:35Essentially.
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Luna the Lovely
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 19:36Vendy–don’t worry, I don’t take offense. Because, honestly, I really am a bit cold (or antisocial, at least) when it comes to people I don’t know making friendly advances. It takes me a long time to warm up to people, in general, and when it comes to complete strangers, I’d rather eat by myself than have people I don’t know come and try and join me. I’m just not a people person, although I know there are plenty of people who feel differently and would actually be happy if a friendly person were to go and hang out with them.
And a lot of it, too, is I just dont’ enjoy small talk, it makes me feel uncomfortable, and when I’m trying to carry on conversation with people I don’t know, and when it wasn’t my idea….It’s very uncomfortable and painful, and tends to make me resent whomever initiated the conversation. Really, though, don’t judge the rest of the world off of me, I’m the first to admit I’m not a people person and that I’m terribly antisocial, at times.
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Vendaval
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 21:59Ah yes, small talk is really a skill that needs to be cultivated, otherwise it can become unbearable, i know exactly how you feel. I usually try to bring up a random fact or cool subject if the other person seems interesting enough and converse from there.
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muselover
in November 24th, 2010 @ 21:00SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Wait, Kreacher didn’t die! Remember the last sentence of the last non-epilogue chapter?
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muselover
in November 24th, 2010 @ 21:03SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
SFTDP
And Teddy does get a VERY brief mention, though not by name. Before they take Polyjuice, Tonks is saying how she’s so excited that she and Remus are going to-and then Mad-Eye cuts her off.
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Midnight Fiddler
in November 22nd, 2010 @ 13:33DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Sorry…..Erumpent. *is chastised*
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Mago Berry
in November 23rd, 2010 @ 08:13I just got to watch it yesterday.
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 24th, 2010 @ 17:14After reading this thread, I conclude that they should have made the Deathly Hallows a bigger theme in the movie, and I would have liked to see some enumeration on the Kreacher scene.
I really, really loved the movie, though. It was great. Especially the beginning, that was very sad.
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muselover
in November 24th, 2010 @ 20:58SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Finally got around to seeing it today.
It was actually surprisingly good, much better than Yates’s other efforts. It stayed true to the book, without extra pointless action sequences. The actors have all matured significantly, and David Yates also doesn’t seem to be afraid of letting them actually ACT in this movie.
I’ll do a similar analysis to the one I did for HBP (WARNING – SPOILERS WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW):Best actors:
All three leading kids (especially Rupert)
Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix (could have used some more screen time, though)
Whoever the cake voiced Dobby
Ralph Fiennes as VoldemortWorst actors:
All three Ministry duplicates for the kids (although Runcorn did an admirable job of trying to imitate Daniel Radcliffe’s mannerisms)
Whoever the cake played MundungusBest scenes:
Dobby’s death (I almost cried!)
Tale of the Three Brothers (although it’s better taken out of context)
Battle at the Diner (except for the waitress)
Bill/Fleur’s weddingWorst scenes:
The bizarre, random, and totally unnecessary Harry/Hermione dance scene
Destroying the locket (the acting was good, but did they really have to go THAT far?!?)
The Seven Potters (why the cake did they have to get on the highway?)
THE CAMPING! THE CAMPING!Final grades:
Acting: B
Storytelling: A-
Trueness to the book: B+
Entertainment: C+
Overall: BVerdict: This is the best Harry Potter movie since David Yates started directing them, and probably the truest to the books so far. As my dad put it, “In the fifth and sixth ones, I had recently read the books and could not follow the plot at all. In this one, I had no recollection of the book and was able to mostly follow the plot.”
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muselover
in November 24th, 2010 @ 21:40It seems the GAPAs have started posting spoiler warnings automatically.
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Vendaval
in November 24th, 2010 @ 23:04SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Aww, you really didn’t like the Harry/Herminone dance? I thought it was sweet and showed the depth of their friendship. And it was uplifting! I bet if it were cut the movie would seem a lot darker. Critics in the papers seem to be mixed in their reaction as well, haha.
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starr
in November 25th, 2010 @ 08:57SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I have to agree with that. As bizarre as the dancing scene seemed at first, like I said before, I did think it was sweet and the movie really needed some sort of an emotional break because of all the obviously necessary darkness in the film. They might have been able to achieve that in a different way that would have worked better, but I do think the scene accomplished what it had to emotionally.
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muselover
in November 25th, 2010 @ 11:37SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
But they could have just put in an emotional scene that was IN THE BOOK!!! That dancing scene actually seemed to confirm Ron’s belief that Harry and Hermione are in love!
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Beetles and Drakon (^_^)
in November 25th, 2010 @ 12:54SPOILERspoilerspoilerspoilerspoilerspoilerSPOILER.
I hated the dancing scene too.
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SudoRandom
in November 26th, 2010 @ 20:00SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
But the dancing scene showed the way that Hermione and Harry cared about each other in a way that wasn’t shown very well in the book. If it had been at all romantic, they would have made it that way. No romantic dancing scene is going to have dancing like that. A dance scene breaking the tension between two very close siblings is going to be very much like that, and that is really what the scene was for. It was well done, and I liked it.
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Choklit Orange
in November 25th, 2010 @ 04:35SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I thought the dance scene was sweet. The only thing was, at the time I watched it I had just read an article in which Daniel Radcliffe talked about kissing Emma Watson- I knew it was in the locket sequence, but at the end of the dance they really looked like they were about to kiss. In fact, the people next to me took time out from their own snogging so the woman could yell, “No, don’t kiss him, Hermione!”
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Tesseract
in November 25th, 2010 @ 09:46If they had kissed, a couple hundred thousand angry fans would have stormed the director and screenwriter’s executive offices.
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Choklit Orange
in November 26th, 2010 @ 04:38A bunch of rabid fans broke into Peter Jackson’s office in New Zealand in order to obtain a rumored hour of unseen footage.
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Thanks For All The Fish42
in November 26th, 2010 @ 14:54I mainly agrreee, but some parts I think different.
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Do voices not change with polyjuice potion? I thought that they did…. Did anyone else notice how the pamphlets looked like some Russian propaganda (or some propaganda from a certain country that escapes me at the moment.)? And the final thing was that the Elder Wand seemed all great, but it’s not supposed to be awesome yet, because it’s Draco’s. But that wasn’t too bad.
Best Actors:
Watson
Rupert
Radcliffe
Bellatrix (That part is played a little too well.)
Dobby guy
Mad-Eye (I know he wasn’t there for long)
Hagrid (same)
Fred and George people!
Worst Actors:
Harry and Hermione polyjuice-ified (I think that the one imitating Harry didn’t do a very good job, but Ron’s was pretty good)
Best Scenes:
Dobby Dying (I did cry)
Tale of the three brothers (although a little lengthy and styled different from the rest of the movies)
Wood chasing scene
The Malfoy house
Acting: A- (for where it counted the most)
Storytelling: B+
Camera-Work: A
Truthiness: A-
Entertainment: A
Overall: B+What I thought: The beginning was a little too jumpy, but after the ministry, the movie slowed down and relished its good acting and cinematography. The camping scenes, while disliked by many, brought to the harry potter movies something that they never had, a time to slow down, have peace, and actually show how the characters are feeling. This movie had different segments to it, and it was annoying to jump from place to place at the beginning. I don’t know if it was th best one so far, but it was a good one.
(Sorry for stealing the format; I’m not very creative)
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Mikazuki
in November 26th, 2010 @ 15:29SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
In the books, polyjuice potion changes voice too; besides the fact that it actually says this, how else could people (For example, Barty Jr.) really use the potion? You can’t imatate a voice THAT well, for goodness sakes, the potion would have really major drawbacks! In the movies, of course they changed it sometimes, but not all the-*stops rant in it’s tracks* I’ve been ranting about HP to my family, my friends, my teachers, random people…ever since the movie came out, so I shall stop now.
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muselover
in November 26th, 2010 @ 18:54I disliked this too, but I supposed they thought people would get confused.
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muselover
in November 26th, 2010 @ 18:56Nah, it’s OK that you took the format. I think I took my format from someone else on the original thread…
Also, I agree with what you said about Bellatrix. SHE. WAS. FREAKY.
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Choklit Orange
in November 26th, 2010 @ 20:25SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I think Helena Bonham Carter gets better every time- in this movie, they sort of emphasized her completely-psycho-in-love-with-Voldemort personality. Carving “mudblood” into Hermione’s arm was, I think, a bit much, but it will serve them well during the scene where Hermione tells Griphook that she has no higher status than he… if they include that at all.
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muselover
in December 4th, 2010 @ 11:57Then again, the whole Mudblood thing was actually ad-libbed. According to IMDb, that scene also had to be edited to avoid an R rating, and Helena checked in with Emma afterwards to see if they were still on good terms.
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Choklit Orange
in December 26th, 2010 @ 22:03… were they?
I thought that Watson acted it pretty well- but nonetheless I didn’t find it that compelling.
Wow, dead thread.
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Piggy
in November 25th, 2010 @ 12:25Everyone, please remember your spoiler warnings. It’s not the responsibility to make up for your negligence or laziness.
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Piggy
in November 25th, 2010 @ 12:26That is, the responsibility of the GAPAs. Not sure what I did with those words–I thought they were there….
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 25th, 2010 @ 21:18Okay, first of all, I’m pretty sure everyone on this thread has seen the movie and just wants to discuss it. Also, I’m pretty sure everyone on this blog has READ THE BOOKS and therefore knows exactly what is going to happen.
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Piggy
in November 25th, 2010 @ 21:59You can assume till the cows come home–it doesn’t mean it’s true. Besides, the GAPAs asked specifically for spoiler warnings; that, I feel, overrides any assumptions.
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 26th, 2010 @ 21:30Sorry, I didn’t see the GAPA warning at the top.
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Errata
in November 26th, 2010 @ 00:26For what it’s worth, I definitely got one major spoiler from MB and a lack of spoiler warnings. It’s definitely not fair to assume everybody has read the books.
Also, I’ve always thought that one of the major functions of spoiler warnings was to keep spoilers out of the Recent Comments bar.
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Choklit Orange
in November 26th, 2010 @ 04:37I will not argue with the GAPAs, and I do not wish to antagonize you, but why would anyone who hasn’t seen the movie read this thread?
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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)
in November 26th, 2010 @ 05:35As Errata points out, the warnings keep spoiler information from appearing in Recent Comments. That’s why they have to be so long. It’s simply a matter of courtesy to one’s fellow MBers.
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Mikazuki
in November 26th, 2010 @ 15:32Well, I haven’t seen it, and I’m reading the thread, but I want to know if it’s actually worth it to go see it and what people thought of it. I’ve read the books, though; so the only thing new is the quality of the movie. But spoiler warnings are still nessecary, for reasons already pointed out.
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Choklit Orange
in November 26th, 2010 @ 04:43SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
Not a spoiler, really, but I just re-watched the first three Harry Potter movies, and I love the way everyone spits their P’s. As in, “mister pPottah!”
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 26th, 2010 @ 21:30I only noticed Malfoy doing that.
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☼Zinc the sorceress☼
in November 27th, 2010 @ 16:44I just realized something.
We didn’t get Hermione screaming “Merlin’s pants!”
That makes me sad.
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Choklit Orange
in November 27th, 2010 @ 21:49DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I saw ages ago and I still can’t stop posting…
Warning: Trivial Detail alert that has absolutely no relevance to the story and makes no sense whatsoever:
“Obliviate” to me implies the wiping of memories, as happens with Lockhart, or the destruction of the memories. However, when Hermione Obliviates her parents, and the Death Eaters in the cafe, the memories sort of get sucked into her wand. Obviously, this is so she can restore the memories to her parents later- but even if the backfiring of Ron’s wand was an incorrect spell and Lockhart’s memories were destroyed, not stored up- why wouldn’t anyone go back and restore the memories of all the people Lockhart Obliviated?
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Piggy
in November 27th, 2010 @ 22:25The word “obliviate” comes from the Latin “oblivisci”, meaning “to forget”. The connotation of destruction is actually a rather poetic one–the word “oblivion” can either signify a state of forgetfulness or a state of having been forgotten. Thus, sending something to oblivion means making it so that it drops even out of memory. Really, a terribly sad word.
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Thanks For All The Fish42
in November 27th, 2010 @ 23:09DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING! Perhaps it is a choice of whoever is casting the spell whether the memories should be stored or done away with. Surely there is some way in the magical wizarding world to get rid of memories completely, or at least hide them. And who is to say that those memories weren’t restored? I don’t think that it is specifically addressed. It is announced to the public that Lockhart was a fake, right?
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Thanks For All The Fish42
in November 27th, 2010 @ 23:10I apologize if that needs a spoiler warning, but I don’t think it did.
I added a spoiler warning just in case — Rosanne
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Princess_Magnolia
in November 28th, 2010 @ 18:23Choklit Orange –
Oh wait, spoiler alert. SPOILER ALERT, PEOPLE!
I think the memory-sucking-wand thing was just a visual effect.
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in November 28th, 2010 @ 10:06Okay, I went to see it.
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First, they hardly spent any time at Grimmauld place. They didn’t show the effort it took to get to the Ministry either-you’d have thought anyone could have just walked in comepletely unprepared! Also, in the movies, there is no mention of house-elf injustice. None of S.P.E.W., none of the “Wizards who mistreat house-elves will get it back in their faces”, None of the whole thing with Kreacher becoming nice, etc. You would think they’d have learned by now! Also, Kreacher doesn’t even tell them the story of the locket, so what the caaake.
Also, my dad has been ranting on and on about this: They fight these death eaters and take them and stuff, but they run away from the snatchers? They could’ve take the snatchers! They just get taken by suprise. But in the movie, THEY HAVE THEIR WANDS, and they still run. Says my dad continually. He’s being annoying and told me to post this.
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in November 28th, 2010 @ 18:25I agree with you; I
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Kittymine, OSW, with various characters on BA
in December 5th, 2010 @ 18:54DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER WARNING
I finally saw the movie today. Here are my comments, as redundant as some may be:
> Why didn’t they kill Wormtail? Seriously, that messes up some plot. Then again, they probably didn’t mention the fact the Wormtail was in Harry’s debt back in the third movie.
> What the heck was with the destuction of the horcrux scene? Since when was there a huge black cloud that blasted them all backward?
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Kittymine, OSW, with various characters on BA
in December 6th, 2010 @ 08:57((SFTDP))
First off, thatnk you to whichever GAPA it was who added the Spoiler warning to the top of my post.
Blast it! Someone in my house posted for me while I was out and I hadn’t finished my thoughts. Grrrr…. well, best get down to it.
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> They totally overused the ‘hear-a-creepy-noise-all-turn-in-fear’ thing.
> I loved what they did for the courtroom scene. Okay, so Ron wasn’t supposed to be in there and Harry wasn’t supposed to start unPolyjuicing (is that a word?) but his “I must not tell lies” line was classic! It was brilliant!
> One of my favorite scenes was when they were in Malfoy Manor. Everyone is frozen in place (Lucius is about to press his dark mark) and they look up to see Dobby happily unscrewing the chandelier.
> The fact that Bellatrix cut the word “Mudblood” into Hermione’s arm was defintely a Nazi reference.
Overall, the movie was great. I’m looking forward to seeing the next one. Shame that I have to wait until July.
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oobatooba
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I liked the movie too, considering that I didn’t like the book ( I understand this is dangerous territory. please let this not turn into a huge argument that will need to be pink bunnyed. It will only encourage their world domination plans.) It was nice that they made it into two parts so it wouldn’t be a too long and too squished movie, with a lot cut out, like the fifth movie ( same as above for the debate about the fifth movie that may follow), but i almost feel that it was too long. Too much of Harry sulking, although the book was like that too, so it’s justified. I worry that the second part will be really packed because the first half was so slow, and most of what happens in the book happens in the second half. I did love the shadow puppet animation of the three brothers tale. Dobby was great,too.
I hear that the second part will only be released in 3-D, which I have mixed feelings about, since I don’t think that it does very much to enhance the movie.
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in December 26th, 2010 @ 13:58I thought the second half was supposed to be in *both* 3D and 2D, not solely 3D, but I could be mistaken.
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in December 26th, 2010 @ 14:52I would be surprised if it was only in 3D. A lot of movie theaters, like mine, only have one or two screens that can show movies in 3D, and theaters will surely want to have more showings running at the same time. I mean, the midnight premier at the theater that I went to for this one had 12 screens showing it at the same time. There’s no way that those could have all been in 3D.
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in December 27th, 2010 @ 19:45Ugh. I hate watching movies in 3D. I can’t concentrate on them. But I think they’ll release it in 2D too- a lot of the theaters in Singapore (and California, where I’ll be when it gets released) don’t have 3D projection systems.
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oobatooba
in December 26th, 2010 @ 11:49Gaaaaahhhh!!! I forgot to give that last post a spoiler warning. anyone who reads this in time, please attatch an apropriate warning. I’m sorry, I’m soooo sorry!
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Cello-Playing Mathematician (AKA Kyra)
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I saw it last Monday, and thought it was pretty good. My main objections:
Wormtail didn’t die… What?
Harry didn’t give the locket to Kreacher. Happy Kreacher was one of my favorite parts from the book.And–I don’t think that anyone has mentioned this yet–where exactly is the invisibility cloak? There are soooo many moments in the movie where they used it in the book. And it’s going to have to appear in the second movie sometime. I can’t wait to see Yates’s lame explanation for its abscence.
On second thought, am I missing something? Is there some sort of rational explanation for this?
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Choklit Orange
in December 26th, 2010 @ 22:01I thought Wormtail did die. I didn’t think it was acted very well, but I’m pretty sure they showed the hand choking him, because they had to portray Dumbledore as knowing that Wormtail had one tiny spark of goodness in him.
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I thought he just fell over, but it was really fast. If he did die, it should have been more drawn out, don’t you agree?
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in December 27th, 2010 @ 12:00I’m not certain, but I’m pretty sure one of them shot a stunning spell at Wormtail. The spell was red, so it would have been a stunner not a killing curse. They didn’t show the hand; a bit up the page I think quite a few people were upset about that…
I mean, it’s possible he was killed, as he was lying unconsious on the floor and I don’t think they showed him later, but I’m pretty sure neither Ron nor Harry could bring themselves to cast the killing curse.
Wait a second. This makes no sense. Ron and Harry were wandless. Or supposed to be. GRAH. Another cake-up by Yates.
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in December 27th, 2010 @ 19:41That’s the other thing- they didn’t show Ron, Hermione, and Harry being disarmed, which is the first thing I would do when capturing powerful witches and wizards…
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axa
in December 28th, 2010 @ 13:14you guys realize that david yates is the director right? not the screenwriter? steve kloves wrote the screenplay. i’m sure yates has considerable say in a lot of it since he is the director, but he didn’t do the actual adapting. he’s not an all purpose scapegoat :/
timothy spall is on the imdb page for the second part so it seems likely they didn’t get to his scene yet. but we’ll see i suppose.
also something cool i just found is the the actor who plays bill is brendan gleeson’s son (aka mad eye)
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in December 28th, 2010 @ 14:18Except that Steve Kloves has been the screenwriter for every Potter movie. And you can tell a marked difference in the movies with each new director, and it wasn’t until Yates came on board with the fifth that the movies started to become *beyond* awful (1st of 7th being an exception, it was surprisingly decent). Thus, since the director is the primary thing that changed, it seems logical that he would be to blame for what’s gone wrong with the movies.
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in December 28th, 2010 @ 16:29*sigh* well everyone is entitled to their opinions. i’m just pointing out that it’s not entirely his “fault” for absolutely everything one dislikes about the movies.
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oobatooba
in December 27th, 2010 @ 10:20SPOILER!SPOILER!DEATHLY HALLOWS, HARRY POTTER AND THE! SPOILER! HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER! SPOILER!SPOILER! HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS SPOILER!
Thank you! thank you! thank you whoever put the spoiler warning on my post that I missed. Thank you infinitively! (x42)
I think that the movie may have 2-D versions, but they will look different because the movie will be originally shot in 3-D.
I think that Wormtail didn’t die, but I can’t be sure because I only went to one screening (not twenty as some of my harry potter obsessed friends did, and I wanted to), and it was a midnight one, so I don’t remember much very accurately. I”m usually a nut about accuracy in movies, but I think too many main characters died in the book, so I’m somewhat OK with it.
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in December 28th, 2010 @ 08:03Then again, the movies get all the colors of curses mixed up, and there seem to be times when wizards just “fire bullets” from the tips of their wands, for which there can be many colors. Whatever may or may not have hit wormtail could have been one of those. but I agree with Cello-playing mathematician. If you’re going to kill of a fairly major character, you should at least make his death scene noticable, and the book provided a really good one which could have been staged well, that the movie seems to not have used.
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Like almost everyone else, I thought that the dancing scene was not a good addition. It implied that Harry and Hermione were in love, which was never implied or even spoken of in the books, except by Rita Skeeter. Also, they were both all teary and depressed over Ron leaving and then they just suddenly break out dancing!? What!? (You got to love those interrobangs). The rest of the movie was fairly good. I think they did the death of Dobby scene fairly well, and they ended the movie at just enough of a cliffhanger to keep you interested but not a “you can’t end there thats not fair” moment. Not one of the better movies, but still a good addition to the Harry Potter movie repertoire.
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in April 5th, 2011 @ 20:50I thought the movie was the best HP movie in recent memory. It was quite close to the actual plot, and I actually liked how they made Hedwig’s death more dramatic. The Three Brothers animation was cool too.
Can’t wait for Part 2. Maybe I’ll go to the midnight premiere, as it will be my last chance to do so for an HP movie.
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