From the Administrators:
At the Washington, D.C., Kokonvention on August 10, some MuseBloggers exchanged “real world” names and e-mail addresses. Since then, some of you have compiled a big e-mail list of MBers — including people who weren’t at the Kokonvention — and have sent it to everyone on the list, again including non-Konventioneers. Some of the recipients have made it clear that they didn’t want to get the list and didn’t like seeing their names on it.
We think this is a bad idea. It’s one thing to send e-mail to individual MBers whom you have met in person and who have specifically said they’d like to hear from you. Sending e-mail to people who don’t want to get it, however, is spamming. Circulating contact information about people who don’t want it circulated is almost as bad. The Kokonventioneers we met are wonderful people who clearly mean no harm. But spreading information around just makes it more likely that someone might use it to harass MBers. We would hate for that to happen. MuseBlog and Kokonventions are supposed to make people’s lives better, not worse.
We can’t control what happens off the blog. But we’d strongly prefer that you
- don’t send e-mail to anyone you don’t know;
- don’t send e-mail to anyone who hasn’t asked for it;
- don’t reveal names or contact information of other MBers.
That’s how we run the blog, and that’s how we’d like you to help run our expanding Muser community.
Midnight Fiddler said it excellently in a recent post:
The GAPAs work really hard to make MuseBlog a fun and safe place to be, and I don’t think it’s fair to organize an email loop for several reasons. One, the health of the blog, two, it’s really exclusive to the people who have been lucky enough to go to a Kokonvention, and the others who didn’t make it get left in the dust. Three, I’d prefer to know, or meet in person the people that know my email adress. I’m not trying to be a spoil sport, but I think that this is an issue that needs to be discussed.
Thanks,
Robert, Rosanne, Rebecca, and Paul
I agree. I wasn’t at the Kokonvention, so I’m not on the list but I think that if people who knew each other through a Kokonvention and just wanted to talk without everybody seeing their posts/without having to wait for them to get moderated then it would be fine, but if 30 MBers suddenly e-mailed me I wouldn’t really like it.
Agreed, completely. I have never met or talked with ANYONE outside the blog, though, so I haven’t been having this problem. But it seems a majority of you are.
Robert, Roseanne, Rebecca, and Paul. PB&J kinda got left out of the alliteration loop, huh?
Hey, cool, I got the first post.
2-If I could, I would go to a Kokonvention, but a Washington Kokonvention seems unlikely at best right now…
And yes, poor PB&J.
I agree that mass emails aren’t exactly the best idea.
However, I enjoy my abilities to send out small emails to share poems with 3 or 4 other MBers for feedback. I guess I just don’t like posting my poems on the general web. (gapas, email me if you’d like to see poems through the gapa email!)
I don’t especially like the mass emails and respect others’ wishes regarding these emails.
I see your point. I’m not a stalker… People have my address now, too (But that’s not that big of a deal). Not my name, though…
Even though we all attended the kokovention in spirit, of course.
PB&J, one day we’re going to change your name to something that begins with an “R”!
Yeah, I was quite surprised today. I got online after getting home from work, only to find tonnes of messages. Freaky.
I don’t see what it can really be used for, aside from “hey go to this thread,” and, as widdershins said, lit-sharing…
I was one of the people, sort of. I sent out a group email to people whose email addresses I received at the Kokonvention (only them, mind you) and was hoping to get simple replies telling me that I had indeed gotten the addresses right. I didn’t think about the “reply all” button, nor did I think about peoples’ privacy – I had assumed that people had gotten all of them and stuff. I certainly didn’t think about excluding those who had not been to the Kokonvention. My apologies, everyone. I’ll say this on other threads, but I figured this would be a good place to start.
I, since I have not met anyone outside of the kokonvention, did not spread the addresses. Whoever did is not going to be happy when they see this thread. But it is a problem. At first, the idea of having other MBer’s e-mails sounded fun, an occasional message off of the blog seemed like a mostly harmless idea. But all of this crazy popoing off the blog is not good. I had 31 e-mails, 31! I got it down to ten that I wanted to keep for a bit. Guess where it is now. 25. This_is_insane.
Now, I don’t want to have any more spam in my mailbox, but that does not mean I won’t keep in touch. I also don’t want ANY of my info being given to ANYONE else, please.
At first I wasn’t sure that this was such a problem, but now I see why it was great of MF to raise the alarm. Thank you.
Red-tailed HAWK
OK, I have my e-mails down to 10 again. I will only be involved in discussions on the blog, as that is what it’s for, right? I really don’t understand why e-mails are so much better, when you are only reaching one 10th or less of the possible audience…
I will only e-mail someone for a special reason, and will keep the e-mails for just that reason. Plus, “see you on the blog” sounds waay better than “see you in my inbox”!
Also, who wants to miss the GAPAs? Not me! They are fun too!
Pies out,
Red-tailed HAWK
7- I wasn’t at the kokonvention, and I got the email and was on the list. I assume you got my email of facebook? I don’t mind it too much, but I understand if people don’t want their info/email around and don’t want all those emails in their inbox. I guess I agree with MF on this.
I don’t really mind, heh, I get excited at any mail. Even snail mail junk.
I guess I’m on the fence about this. I think it’s helpful to have MBer’s addresses. I’ve been in touch with some of you for a while. On the other hand, I think mass e-mails are sort of pointless. I mean, unless it’s something super-important. But just for general conversation… eh, isn’t that why we’re on the blog in the first place? As for the “exclusive-ness” argument, that doesn’t make much sense to me. I don’t think the Kokonventioneers are being exclusive for e-mailing among themselves. They met and exchanged e-mails, so why shouldn’t they use them?
Sorry to everyone and anyone, because I did send out a group email – but I shall never, ever do that again. I feel really bad now, because I was being really really careful about pictures, etc., but I didn’t really think about sending a group email.
Sorry!
Thanks GAPAs, for addressing this.
I’d love to keep in touch with the musers I know. I’m thinking that emails are a good place to discuss things you can’t say on the blog, such as getting together.
I got 46 emails today. That was really out of control.
11~ I agree, it seems really great to keep in touch with other MBers by email, but the way it was going was very out of control.
Also, yes, it is very exclusive. I see the Kokonventions as a way
to meet people in person to become real life friends, not just blog friends. This means to me that we remain friends on the blog, but continue to get to know each other in person, away from
the blog.
However, the email was being abused. It was just about to the point of becoming an alternate MuseBlog.
Please understand that I’d love to hear from the Musers I met at the Kokonvention. I really like all the Musers I have met on the blog, but if you don’t mind, I’d like it to stay here, where it belongs.
12-HARG! *PIES* CHARGE!!!!!!!
No, I’m not mad! Sending that e-mail wasn’t half the trouble, the more I think about it, the “bigger” half was how over-excited everyone was after the kokonvention (including me!), so they just couldn’t stop sending the e-mails.
Let us rejoice! our problem seems to be mostly solved, as I only had an e-mail from a parent! *Holds giant party*
By the way, I just deleted all the emails I got today. The musers I haven’t met are not in my address book, nor do I remember any of the addresses.
I’m pleased that we’re making connections, or perhaps I should say kokonections, but I really think we should keep to an appropriate place to keep it.
BAH!!! Typo city!! Ignore the last “to keep it”.
I’m not really mad at any of the people who leaked the addresses, I was just worried that it was getting out of control. (which, by the way, it was.)
I can understand that it started with good intentions, but snowballed really fast.
I wasn’t trying to incriminate anyone, but I felt that this needed to be reported.
THIIIIIIIIIIIIISSS is why I don’t Kokonvene.
Yes, I am guilty of starting the second one, which I think may have been the one that brought attention. I’m really very sorry, and will definitely think next time. Sorry again.
1- Ha. Thirty MBers just e-mailed me. Well, roughly.
I hardly use the e-mails I have, and when I do, it’s for something like sending a document or discussing editing tactics. (Which, for some reason, is easier to do with e-mail than on the Blog. Don’t ask why.) I like having the e-mails of other MBers, in fact I was almost looking forward to it, but this is insane. Now I have to read all these things. I should know better than to leave for a day and a half, I guess.
I’m very sorry everyone. Very, very sorry, even though I didn’t do anything.
I sent an email, but there was a failure, and I’m not going to bother to resend, since no one wants to get it anyway and I can just post it on the blog where it will be even more controversial.
Re: the controversy of emails.
I already said this on the blog, but honestly, I don’t think we really use the emails much. I’m not in other people’s minds, so I don’t know, but all I really use it for is stuff that can’t be said on the blog. I would say that if you don’t want me to email you I won’t, but because the chances of me actually emailing you are virtually nil unless you happen to be making a MuseCast or have volunteered to help me edit something I don’t really need to. And again, I can’t speak for everyone, but I never found it especially irritating to hear that other people had the contact info of still other people. I try not to flaunt it or anything, so…
Yeah. Just my honest opinion and defense. And email can never touch MB.
I will add to this the fact that I have someone’s email – I won’t say whose – and I have not disclosed it, nor do I have any intention of disclosing it.
Also, it does not need to be such an extreme thing as it is made out to be. It has always been fairly low-key, and Midnight Fiddler had made the biggest deal of it until this thread was put up. This is not meant to be rude or mean in any way, but if we’re talking of exclusive, then it seems kind of weird. Most people probably didn’t even know about the fact that some people have other people’s emails until this thread was put up, which serves much the same purpose as talking incessantly about the kokon to people who missed it. I am not upset about either of these things, but you probably know what I mean.
There. Pie me, banish me, do what you like. I have made my point.
I have even more to say now that I am actually reading the thread and not just commenting. For one thing, the kokonveners having each other’s emails and using them. So what? Why do we non-kokonveners care? Unless, of course, people start sending emails out saying specifically that they do not want to talk to anyone that they haven’t met in person. This post promises to put some barriers between certain MBers and me, if they take it personally, so I’m just saying, don’t take it personally. I’m mostly responding on principle, because principle means a lot to me. But it kind of hurts. Because some of us will never be able to meet other MBers, and that unintentional exclusion is as bad as the other kind.
Note that as soon as this particular discussion has died down, I will completely disregard the fact that there was ever any tension, and will be no cooler and stiffer to Midnight Fiddler than I am to anyone else. I won’t forget, but I won’t care.
I know that I am starting to rant, but I have a long and unhappy history with exclusion, and it makes me mad.
I know it wasn’t entirely my fault, but I did send out a big group email, and I’m really really really sorry about it – in addition to me just getting a new email address and not really knowing how to use it, (I didn’t intend on sending it to that many people, although I know I shouldn’t have sent it at all), I just wasn’t thinking, and I’m really sorry for all the trouble it caused, and I hope everyone doesn’t hate me :'(
I kinda agree with Alice (oh boy, here I go… please, just pie me if I start ranting) here. I mean, I don’t mind emailing the other MBers and stuffins but now for some odd reason I have MBers’ emails, and I don’t even know who some of them are ’cause I haven’t been on here for a while. I don’t mind talking to them, but I’m not going to send them an email through anything but maybe a “hey how are you?” email or a loop. Basically, what I’m saying is I’m not going to spam anyone. Now, I know from past experience, that some Musers *coughebethcough* like to send out emails to everyone when they’re just plain bored. And I’m okay with that ’cause most people don’t hit the “reply all” button and we don’t get a million emails. Now, MF I guess I kinda agree with you, but saying that you didn’t want to talk to anyone that you don’t know or have met in person well… some people might consider that kind of rude. Frankly, I don’t really care that much ’cause I am used to being told that (mainly my little sis saying that she doesn’t want to talk to me), but some people might. All I’m saying is that I would rather people just calm down. If you want someone to not email you then I think there is a possibility to block them or if you want to go to extremes, get a new email address. Although I’m sure that no one really is going to an extreme here… If someone gets mad at me for posting this, please please please keep your thoughts to yourself or write up an angry email and delete it so your feelings were vented. (I’m probably contradicting myself…) But still, don’t worry, the emails will die down, they always do.
Aw, it’s okay, Alice! *hugs*
Please understand me.
I want to talk to ALL of you. This is the reason I’m on MuseBlog just about every day. I am not attempting to exclude anyone, I just want to know in person the people that are emailing me, if this is so rude, I apologize, it was not intended to be.
I would spring at the chance to meet ANY Muser, or MBer.
My concern is also safety, it is too easy to get one’s email and other personal information spread over the internet; that’s why I think we should stick to the blog for communicating.
Exclusiveness: I beleive it is exclusive. You can only get in if you’re in the right place at the right time. Perhaps the MBers who don’t have anyone’s email’s are put out now, that was not what I intended, and I’m very sorry if this is the effect. I have had problems with being excluded as well, I don’t think anyone has ever escaped that. I do not mean to exclude anyone, I would have hoped that I made this clear, both in my posts, and the emails I responded to.
It I am lucky enough to meet you, I hope we can keep in touch, untill then, I’d prefer to keep it on the blog. I’m not mad at anyone, and I hope that this can smooth over and not be a huge problem, I wanted to bring it to the surface because I thought it was an issue that the GAPAs needed to be aware of, and the emailers needed to know about as well.
I hope that we can remain friends, as I have always thought very highly of the MBers.
20: “I never found it especially irritating to hear that other people had the contact info of still other people.” Exactly. I didn’t think this was a big enough deal to be brought on to the blog. Making it official on the blog leaves people out way more.
Actually I think it’s exciting to contact MBers. It’s not new, guys. MBers are everywhere. Facebook, NationStates, NaNoWriMo, Xanga, Livejournal? The list goes on.
Emmatheduck, I know you haven’t posted on this thread yet, but I totally agree with your points. I won’t repeat it, but I think you should, once you get on here. Or at least part of it.
21: Finally! That first paragraph really needed to be said.
22: No biggie at all. Hey, so people’s inboxes are a little clogged. It’s blown over now, and most people are over it.
23: Ha, exclusive. The irony.
This is an extraordinarily controversial topic.
24- I sort of understand, in a weird and vaguely miserable way. It’s not even that having your email means anything to me, since I would never email you anyway. The only people I have emailed personally are Purple Panda, Jadestone, and Pentatonikk, and all of that was related to the blog, so I don’t see why I care. But I do. It stings. It would sting as much if it was anyone else saying this, so maybe it is principle after all.
I sincerely hope that no one is spreading my personal info over the internet, and because no one knows my full name or locality anyway, I don’t think that it’s a problem.
I don’t think that this would have mattered in the least if there had never been a thread. It never seemed to me that the GAPAs were especially disapproving of us having the contact info of other MBers. Now there is a thread, everyone is all stirred up, and I for one am downright relieved that I will not have access to a computer from Tuesday to Friday.
I received almost none of the “spamming” that was being talked about, and it seems that it has become an overly big deal, and was blamed on the non-kokonveners. This is not nice.
It’s amazing there is still anything for me to say. It’s like my own little Hot Topic. Amazing that I don’t care about serious things, but this makes my blood boil. *sigh*
24: Well, if you want to e-mail exclusively with people who got to go to the Kokonvention, then that’s your preference, although I don’t understand it. I’m not mad at you for it, even if I don’t agree.
But I don’t think that should interfere with what everyone else does outside the blog.
To all:
We decided, after some discussion, that the issue needed to be addressed, not because it was such a big deal but because we didn’t want it to turn into a much bigger deal later on. We’re sorry if it appeared otherwise.
Posting about the emails — or about the Kokonvention itself — is not intended to make anyone feel excluded. Quite the opposite, in fact. This was one event. Its success will make other gatherings more likely to occur. For that very reason, we need to be careful about how we proceed from here, particularly when it comes to the very tricky dilemma of outside contact.
It’s not that we disapprove of your being in touch with one another — we are simply doing what we can to keep each of you as safe as possible, and there are only so many options that we can exercise to do so.
28 – I agree: to me, not emailing with anyone you haven’t met personally isn’t being exclusive/etc; it’s being smart and safe. I haven’t personally met you; for all I know, _all_ of you could be creepy pedophilic stalker-people making some elaborate hoax. I don’t think that’s very likely, but it is a possibility. My parents actually don’t allow me to communicate with people online whom I’ve never met personally (except for my cousins); they’re making an exception for Museblog. I used to do online text-based RPGs, and on one of them there was a big kerfuffle where one of the people accused another of being a pedophile. These things do happen. And not spreading your email address to people you don’t know personally is one way to prevent them from happening to you.
Just my $0.02
Well, I pretty much trust everyone here. I was a bit nervous when suddenly everyone had my address, but you don’t act like creeps, so I don’t think you are. You’re too authentic.
I have about 4 email adresses, so if something did happen I could just abondon that one. I’m not to worried about much happening, because MB is safe and secure, but I’m still carefull.
Alright. I’ve identified the real barb, worse than Midnight Fiddler not wanting the contact info of those of us not at the kokon, worse than the exclusion. You don’t trust us because we weren’t close enough to get to the convention.
Ouch.
Perhaps that is not what you meant, but I have read the thread, and I have read the emails, and it seems that the phrasing is pretty consistent.
I am not a pedophile, or anything resembling one. I’m just a slightly eccentric teenager who happens to live in a ghost town on the West Coast.
(32) Alice, please understand that none of this is meant in a personal way at all. We simply can’t make decisions or allow exceptions based on gut feelings of trust — not when we bear the responsibility of having so many people (both MBers and their parents) trust us to keep this as safe a place as possible.
Remember that any meetings we’ve had anything to do with have been arranged by way of parents. That had nothing to do with how much we trusted individual MuseBloggers and everything to do with taking sensible precautions. Some mistakes can’t be undone, and we would feel unbearably awful if anything happened to any one of you on account of our negligence.
33- I know, I know. But it hurts.
(34) Believe me, I know. And oh how I wish I had the power to erase that hurt.
Alice- If it helps at all, I don’t mistrust any of you. Really, I probably trust you all too much. *hollow laugh*
I’d like to note that when I email people, only my first name and “adae” (in the last name spot) show up. When I chose my email name I didn’t put my real last name in I put “Adae” (the a in e~a) instead to be safe. I’m usually emailing people I know though. I wonder if they get confused that where my last name should be there’s “Adae” instead?
Everyone who goes on here often enough that I can say I know him/her, I trust as a friend.
What stinks is finding out some fellow MuseBloggers don’t. I get that they want to be safe. But it’s easier to take when we’re all following established rules set by an authority, rather than them telling us to our face we aren’t trusted.
I don’t want to blame anyone, so I’ll stop.
37- I wasn’t confused in the least.
38- Yes. It’s a little harsh.
But I really haven’t the energy to stay mad. If I stayed mad at everyone, then there would be two or three people whom I refused to talk to, and it would be a dreadful waste of energy and friendship. So. If people choose not to trust me because they haven’t met me in person, then that is their choice. Perhaps we’ll never be friends outside of the Blog, but again, their choice. I don’t believe in caring about other people’s choices.
39- I mean friends from School in … *gasp* real life who know my last name anyways
I’m not going to stop outside contact. Anyone who has my email from the list can contact me at any time, if they want to. I guess the problem is that some people that didn’t want to have they’re email circulated were on the list, but we can’t change that now.
Reading the more recent comments on this thread, I tend to agree with Alice and ‘Dotty-Kay’s opinions.
also, sorry to double post, at first I agreed with MF that it was being exclusive, but then I realized that since I wasn’t at the kokonvention and PP found my email, it’s not really.
I obviously wasnt at the kokonventions so i dont know EXACTLY whats going on so forgive me if i say something stupid.
Midnight Fiddler, i think you had a good point in not wanting to exchange email people you havent met in person. I see your point, but remember wording is everything.
Alice, I completely agree with you. It does hurt when people say things like that and I’m realy happy your big enough to put it behind you. right now some of the people on this blog are more real than the people around me, you especialy.
34- i dont know if this will help the hurt but, earnestly, you’re the MBer i would least suspect to be a pedophile (spelling?) and you’re the one of the MBers I trust the most I think, probably because when I read your posts- actualy its realy hard to put this into words- but I realy respect you: your smart, intelligent, well read, always correct my spelling
, mature,umm….. there’s more…… anyways, you come off as an extremely likeable person.
what I just said should NOT be taken as a statement that I dont trust any other MBers. I trust you all, WAAAAYYYY more than I should.
heh. anyways I love you all. and its too bad this all had to happen and that poeple got hurt, because beleive me I know what it feels to be hurt. The pen is mightier than the sword, but as the sword kills so does the pen. lets all just remember to word things properly and in a way that NO ONE will take offense.
sorry about the double post. this has all been upsetting and scary, even though i have nothing to do with it, but I’m here often enough to care deeply about all of you.
I do trust all the MBers, and I feel like I know you all. It’s quite a temptation, to be able to communicate directly with all these people that I respect and value as friends, however I still think that it’s wrong. I am concerned for my own safety, and the safety of others, email lists are too easly to abused by unintended recipeients. I very seriously doubt that there are any creepy, pedophiles on MB, or on the email list, but it’s common sense to protect personal information, which I think includes email addresses.
If you visit just about any well known website, there are pages and pages of policies and disclaimers, because bad things can happen.
My intent in geting off the email list is NOT to exclude anyone, I really don’t want to burn bridges, I want to try to stay safe and use common sense. This is not an insult to anyone who has decided to stay on the list, we feel differently about this subject, and I respect that.
I have not intended to hurt anyone’s feelings, I have simply acted in a manner I thought was, and hope is, responsible.
It hurts when you think that I don’t want to hear from you, I would love to get to know you all better. I think that MBers are an incredible group of enthusiastic and interesting people, whom I would take any chance to meet and develop closer friendships with. However, for the time being, I still beleive the best place to continue getting to know each other is here on the MuseBlog.
By the way Alice, and all those who think I don’t want to be friends outside of the blog, I do, I just want it to be safe for all of us. If I’m in reasonable distance of ANY MB-ER, I will make an effort to meet you in person, and hopefully succeed.
I think the general opinion on this topic is agreement to post 0.
Post 0??
49-the thing at the top of the page. the tread intro.post 0
i’ve been emailing people off the blog for ages, and none of them have mentioned long walks in the woods yet (although my parentals thought the PB&J was a pedo for a long time). i’m not a big fan of the loops and mass emailing stuff, first because it tends to get confuzzling, and second because it does kind of spam your inbox (especially when one person says “ok, let’s end the loop now” and everybody else feels the need to chime in “yes, let’s” and you’ve got fifteen emails that say “well i’m going to stop responding to these emails now”). but i’m a huge fan of individual emails and IM conversations. i understand if you don’t want to be involved in that for safety reasons, but as for being exclusive, which seems to be a common complaint, i don’t think it’s any more exclusive than having a conversation with one of your real-life friends when all of your other friends aren’t there. it basically adds up to this
you: i can’t talk to you, because we’re the only people here and it would be exclusive.
friend: what?
you: people will feel left out if they hear we’ve had a conversation without them
friend: …but people have conversations without us all the time
you: what? they do? that hurts me! i’m going to go over to the corner and cry and moan about the world’s cruelty! waaah!
exaggerated of course, and i hope nobody’s offended by that, but it’s like people who are always trying to be politically correct, it just doesn’t work. if you imagine people to be incredibly sensitive and easily hurt, then yes, it makes sense, but most people aren’t like that. and shouldn’t be, imho.
so yes, let’s stop the loops and yes, let’s not email people who think we’re creepy stalkers (which we are…monty and i have been trying to lure each other into the woods for years) (literally years, as in two. jeeshers, i’m old) but not emailing people because others aren’t being emailed is slightly ridiculous. my email’s not hard to find, and neither are the emails of some i know, and anybody who wants to be emailed can easily do so. so spamming is a no, creepy stalkers is a no, but i’m going to keep talking to the people who want to talk off the blog and not worry about other people. nobody needs to be left out, like i said, it’s ridiculously easy to find some of us. and that’s all i have to say about that.
wow, that was a lot longer than i meant it to be. oh wells.
50~ Oh, thanks. *feels stupid*
Hey you guys? If you and I know each others’ emails, I won’t share yours. Please don’t share mine though. I don’t like it when random MBers get my email. So. It’s fine if you know mine, but please don’t tell anyone else it.
51- I, too, enjoy one on one conversations with seperate MBers. I just don’t like having my email address get spread around randomly.
Okay, I’m not trying to make a fuss again, but I just got a really offensive email from someone who calls themselves “ozzy ozborne” in the name that shows up in the email. Guys, please don’t do stuff like that, it’s really unkind, that’s the whole reason we have GAPAs.
55- completely agreed.
55- Yes, I know. I got two. And when I asked him to stop, he said he wouldn’t. So I suppose I was proved wrong… *sigh* Any other MuseBlogger would respect my wishes. I guess you’re right about the email thing.
I am resigned. And never want to check my email again.
thanks guys. I hope this can smooth over.
57~ You can block him, or say “mark as spam” at least that’s the wording with my email. I hope that works.
I don’t know who it was that sent that email. That was the only one that truly offended me, the others were pretty harmless and I hoped it wouldn’t take a turn in that direction. I didn’t approve, but that was really inappropriate.
that didn’t come out right. I meant to say, I didn’t approve of the other emails either, but that last one was very inapropriate. Hope it made sense that time….
It was FS, who else would say things about religion in email?
I wasn’t trying to incriminate anyone. Although, I’ll admit I had my suspicions.
I’ll keep talking to all the people on MB where they are cilvil, but I won’t tolerate that sort of thing in my inbox.
That’s just really stupid. How many peoples got it?
what’s stupid? Sending out mean emails? Yeah, I agree.
I don’t know who all got it. I don’t even know how he got on the email loop.
I don’t think I ever emailed him anything – how did people get in contact with him?
64- Didn’t you see? His address was in an email that someone sent while they were trying to sort out their email mess. We thought he wasn’t from MB at all, and then it was resolved that it was FS. I kind of hoped he wouldn’t send something of that kind.
Okay, I’m probably just stirring things up by posting here. Oops.
64-I found him on a different website, along with his email address…but I never sent any bulk emails, so I don’t know how he got into them.
Yeah, I noticed…lol…I wrote him back, telling him to stop, and to not be a jerk, and he said that he didn’t care…on the other hand, when I told him that there were at least 12-year-olds on the list of people being sent to, he calmed a bit, I think.
64- the mass e-mail list that was sent out was also sent to him.
Twenty four-Most of the people here are my friends, with the exception of the occasional annoying person [no names]
Ahem. This thread is still open?…