MuseMuseBlog Chess, v. 1

“Could we just do Muse Chess and get it over with?” –muselover

Request granted!

Muse Chess, Game 1: 30 June 2008 –
White: Bookworm, Alice, Hypatia, Purple Panda, Red-tailed HAWK, earthgirl, …
Black: IBCF, ZVX, The Man For Aeiou, Taiwan Hippo Fan

The game so far (double-check at the bottom of the thread — the GAPA may not have included the latest moves):

Game 1.1 — OVER, White Won
###pgn###
1. d4 d5
2. e3 Nf6
3. Bd3 c6
4. a4 Qd7
5. Qf3 e5
6. Ne2 e4
7. Bxe4 d5xe4
8. Qf4 Bd6
9. Qg5 Ng4
10. O-O c5
11. Qxg7 Rf8
12. Qxh7 Qc7
13. Qxe4+ Be6
14. d5 Bxh2+
15. Kh1 f5
16. Qxe6+ Kd8
17. e4 Qh7
18. Bg5+ Kc7
19. g3 f5xe4
20. d6+ Kc6
21. d7+ Kc7
22. d8(Q)+ Rxd8
23. Bf4+ Rd6
24. Qxd6+ Kc8
25. Qe6+ Kd8
26. Rd1+ Nd7
27. Bg5+ Kc8
28. Qe8+ Kc7
29. Bf4+ Ng4e5
30. Bxe5+ Nxe5
31. Qxe5+ Kc6
32. Qd6++
%%%pgn%%%

Game 1.2
###pgn###
1. d4 d5
2. e3 Nf6
3. Bd3 c6
4. a4 Qd7
5. Qf3 e5
6. Ne2 e4
7. Bxe4 d5xe4
8. Qf4 Bd6
9. Qg5 Ng4
10. O-O c5
11. Qxg7 Rf8
12. Qxh7 Qc7
13. Qxe4+ Be6
14. d5 Bxh2+
15. Kh1 Nf6
16. Qh4 Bxd5
17. Qxf6 Bc4
18. Nb1c3 Rg8
19. b3 Qc6
20. Qxc6+ Nxc6
21. b3xc4 Rh8
22. Nf4 Rd8
23. Nh3 Bb8
24. Nd5 f6
25. Nxf6+ Kf7
26. Bb2 Ne5
27. Bxe5 Bxe5
28. Rb1 Kxf6
29. f4 Bd6
30. Kg1 Rh7
31. Rb1d1 Ke7
32. Kf2 b6
33. Rh1 Rd8h8
34. Rh2 Rg7
35. Re1h1 Rf8
36. Ng5 Rxg5
37. g3 Rg5f5
38. Ra1 Be5
39. Ra3 Bb2
40. Rd3 Rh8
41. Rxh8 Bxh8
42. Rd5 Rf6
43. Rh5 Bg7
44. Rh7 Kf7
45. Rh5 Ke7
46. g4 Rd6
47. Rd5 Re6
48. Kf3 Rh6
49. Rh5 Rxh5
50. g4xh5 Ke6
51. e4 Kf6
52. Kg4 Bh6
53. f5 Ke5
54. Kf3 Bc1
55. Kg4 Kxe4
56. f6 Bh6
57. f7 Ke5
58. f8Q Bxf8
59. Kg5
%%%pgn%%%

Date: June 27, 2008

Author: Robert Coontz (Administrator)

Categories: Chess, Nonrandom Craziness, Things We like

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PÃ–ÃŸÃ–C Ã–n Ã„ German KEYBÃ–Ã„RD

in June 27th, 2008 @ 15:18

C+Ped from my original post on Beavo’s Mostly Harmless Board Game:
Muse Chess:
One side:
Pawns: HPBs
King: Chad
Queen: Urania
Bishops: Mimi, Bo
Knights: Aeiou, Crraw
Rooks: Pwt, Feather
Other side:
Pawns= Pies
King= Koko
Queen=Coco-shnelli
Bishops= Baby Rabbit w/ Big Pointy Teeth, Tim the Enchanter
Knights= Zaphod Beeblebrox, Vogon
Rooks= Mr. Green, Devil (the dog)

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muselover

in June 27th, 2008 @ 15:26

FIRST POST!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for doing it! Anyone want to play against me? Wait… what will the pieces be? Kokopelli’s king, Urania’s queen… what else?

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Kokonilly, the sensible nillybuckbuck

in June 27th, 2008 @ 15:31

Muse Chess? Is that different from normal chess?

I’m decent at normal chess. Nothing special.

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NerdAndProudOf It

in June 27th, 2008 @ 15:40

Hee hee.

I don’t know how to play even REAL chess.

first post?

boo hoo.

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muselover

in June 27th, 2008 @ 15:47

Whoops. Not first post.

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Beatlesrockr(10piepoints)&Hiejayko and JOHN

in June 27th, 2008 @ 15:56

this is, confusing.

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Purple Panda

in June 27th, 2008 @ 16:00

I used to be pretty good at chess, but I haven’t played in awhile. Perhaps I’ll challenge my dad to a game this evening…brush up my skills

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 27th, 2008 @ 16:02

(6) Unlike everything else on the blog.

(2) If I were designing a Muse chess set based on “normal” chess pieces… Hm… Well, pawns would be pies, for one side at least. I suppose Kokopelli would have to be one of the Kings, and the other — Chad? That would make sense, as the Chadium umbrellas repel Koko’s pies in Attack of the Smart Pies. Chad’s Queen would have to be Aeiou, and Koko’s — Urania?!

As for the others, Bo strikes me as Rook-like. Feather is about the right size to be a Knight. Mimi and Pwt could be Bishops. Crraw as the other Knight? Knights do fly over other pieces, in a way.

Of course, Muse chess could be a different game entirely. I could offer some suggestions…

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NerdAndProudOf It

in June 27th, 2008 @ 16:45

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Man For Aeiou

in June 27th, 2008 @ 16:48

8- Feather can fly (I think!) too!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 27th, 2008 @ 16:48

You’ll have to help yourselves. I certainly don’t know what’s going on.

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (11 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in June 27th, 2008 @ 16:50

thanks, Robert. That’s just right.

*I advance knight to E4.*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 27th, 2008 @ 17:20

Maybe I can help a little. Here’s what a conventional chessboard looks like, in diagram form. (Note that none of the Knights can move to e4 on the first move, though the white Pawn/Pie/Bunny can.)

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NerdAndProudOf It

in June 27th, 2008 @ 18:22

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Raynpho

in June 27th, 2008 @ 18:46

13- Two of them can on their second move, though. Provided the pawn/pie/bunny hasn’t yet
I don’t think I’ve played chess in a while…

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 27th, 2008 @ 18:55

Yay! Chess! Anyone want to play me? Anyone want me to teach you how to play Chinese chess so that I can beat the living daylights out of you because I’m really good at it? Wait–we can’t really play chess over the blog, can we? Poo.

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Adeia

in June 27th, 2008 @ 19:02

So is it like normal Chess? If so, any one for a game?

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Raynpho

in June 27th, 2008 @ 19:16

16- I’ll play you! Regular chess, that is. I think I’ll keep my living daylights inside me, thank you very much.
I wish we could play chess on the blog. Maybe we could keep a chessboard by the computer, and just type in where we want to move.
Example:
Raynpho says: pawn to E4 (Both players move pawn to E4, on their own board)
IBCF posts: pawn to E6 (both players move pawn to E6, on their own board)

Etc. Or would that be too confusing?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 27th, 2008 @ 19:49

18- We could try playing that way. Who wants to move first?

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Raynpho

in June 27th, 2008 @ 19:55

19- You can choose, black or white? But not now, I have to go
We can play later, possibly.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 27th, 2008 @ 20:14

20- I’ll be black. Black is eeeviiiil. Moi-hahahahaha.

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Kokonilly, the sensible nillybuckbuck

in June 27th, 2008 @ 23:03

And HOW exactly do we play chess over the blog?

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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (IWAS resident zoologist, I hope...)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 09:02

I vote paker-ish calvinball-ish style chess, which is ever so much easier to play virtually…

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Kokonilly, the sensible nillybuckbuck

in June 28th, 2008 @ 09:49

That could be hard.

“My queen kills your king. I win!”

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 11:38

-13 sorry, I meant f3.

-16 unfortunately, you’re challenging a master, IBCF.

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muselover

in June 28th, 2008 @ 12:31

Sorry if this is confusing anyone. I just thought of a random idea, really.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 28th, 2008 @ 12:32

22- The way Raynpho suggested would probably work.

23- You can do that. But I like traditional strategic chess.

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Lisa O'Malley (Pierate Captain)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 13:23

I think I will shout out moves.

ROOK TACKLES KING!

no. I don’t know how to play, but that’s never stopped me before.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 13:27

One simple chess offshoot that you might try sometime (either here or at home):

– all the pawns move like pawns in chess;
– all the “back row” pieces move like queens.

There are no kings; instead, the game is played to the last piece, as in checkers.

Games tend to be violent in a way that might appeal to the RPGers among us.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 13:28

I’ll play someone in Chess! I call White! (Chad!)

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Eccentric the Afterthought (+200 pie points)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 13:35

29 – I’ll have to try that soon…*evil grin*

I’ve never been good at virtual chess, but the idea of “MB chess” is intriguing. I’ll definitely be lurking.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 13:39

(30) Let’s get a game going, though it may be hard to keep track. Also, I think anybody should be able to make a move — but once you’ve moved for a color (black or white), you may make future moves only for that color for the rest of the game. Fair enough?

All right, Bookworm. If you’ll move for White, I’ll make a move for Black. Then we can see what happens.

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muselover

in June 28th, 2008 @ 14:55

My post got snipped!

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in June 28th, 2008 @ 15:48

-23 as IBCF says, it’s good to use strategy.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 28th, 2008 @ 17:11

32- I’ll move for black. Your move, Bookworm.

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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (IWAS resident zoologist, I hope...)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 03:28

I’ll do my best to play and make an ocasional move, but I don’t really have a chessboard with me here. Maybe I can find one on the web or play off of the one above. It sounds like fun…

I like Robert’s idea of anybody playing for a team, but once you’re commited you stick with your side.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 07:10

Here’s a trick that might help: a way of quickly writing down chess positions so they can be reconstructed on a board. Pieces are abbreviated as follows: P=pawn, R=rook, N=knight, B=bishop, Q=queen, K=king. White pieces are in upper-case (capital letters); black pieces in lower-case. You go row by row, starting with the black side at the board (the “top” in conventional chess diagrams). Numerals refer to the number of empty squares between pieces in a row.

For example, if you have this position —

— you’d record it like this:
r2qk2r pp2bppp 2n1p3 1B1n3b 3P4 5N1P PP3PP1 RNBQR1K1

Not as good as having a diagram to look at, but much better than nothing.

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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (IWAS resident zoologist, I hope...)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 08:11

That’s terrific! And it means I don’t have to resort to drawing those iniscule little diagrams each time someone moves. Thanks awfully!

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 08:51

30, 32- Alright! You can both be on Black! I’ll make my move! Pawn d2 to d4! The Board:
RNBQKBNR
PPP1PPPP
8
3P4
8
8
PPPPPPPP
RNBQKBNR

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 29th, 2008 @ 10:02

39- Pawn d7 to d5.

RNBQKBNR
PPP1PPPP
8
3P4
8P4
8
PPP1PPPP
RNBQKBNR

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 10:33

40- Pawn e2 to e3.
RNBQKBNR
PPP1PPPP
4P3
3P4
3P4
8
PPP1PPPP
RNBQKBNR

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 10:51

Lower-case letters for the black pieces, please.

If I’ve followed the game so far, the moves are as follows:
1. d4, d5
2. e3, …

and the position looks like this:
rnbqkbnr ppp1pppp 8 3p4 3P4 4P3 PPP2PPP RNBQKBNR

Right?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:12

41- Bishop f8 to b4. Check.

RNBQKBNR PPP2PPP 4P3 1b1P4 5p3 8 ppp1pppp rn1qkbnr

42- Right. And I just misread Bookworm’s move, but he seems to have given me a lucky break (he didn’t eat my poor widdle pawn).

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:20

Black players: Before recording the position, please turn the board around so that square a1 (White’s Queen’s Rook) is at the lower left. That’s the convention.

(43) I don’t think that’s a legal move. The black pawn at e7 hasn’t moved yet and still blocks the bishop at f8.

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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:23

Raynpho’s design for Muse chess pieces:

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:26

43-Bishop c1 to d2.
RN1QKBNR
PPPB1PPP
4P3
1b1P4
5p3
8
ppp1pppp
rn1qkbnr

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:27

(46) Bookworm, please read post 44. Black’s last move was impossible, and you’re recording the rows upside-down.

The game so far:

1. d4, d5
2. e3, Bb4+ (impossible)
3. Bd2, …

(In chess notation, “+” means “check” and “++” means “checkmate.”

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:35

Aw, nuts. I thought I moved the pawn at e7. I went from d7 to d5??? *implodes*

Okay, then I take that back. It would be unfair to switch the pawns. I move my knight from g8 to f6.

RNBKQBNR PPP2PPP 3P4 4P3 5P3 2n5 pppp1ppp r1bkqbnr

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:40

All right, revised game and position follow. But please start recording the position uniformly (black rows at top, white rows at bottom). I can’t police every move.

[Move number. White’s move, Black’s move]
1. d4, d5
2. e3, Nf6
3. …
(White to move.)

rnbqkb1r ppp1pppp 5n2 3p4 3P4 5P3 4P3 PPP2PPP RNBQKBNR

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:53

49- Sorry, Robert, but shouldn’t it be like this?

rnbqkbr ppp1pppp 5n2 3p4 3P4 4P3 PPP2PPP rnbkqbnr

I wanted to keep the move I made in post #40. I thought that would only be fair…And I just moved my knight from g8 to f6.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 11:58

Yes, I kept your move from post 40.

You’re right about the third row: it’s 4P3 instead of 5P3.

Bottom row (White’s first row) should be in upper case, with the king to the right of the queen (queen on square d1, king on square e1 — queen always starts on her own color): RNBQKBNR.

And don’t forget the empty square (numeral 1) where black’s knight used to be.

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Adeia

in June 29th, 2008 @ 12:18

45 – Which one is which? What about the other muses?

And again I ask would anyone care to play?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 12:24

(52) Adeia,

Are you trying to start a second game? You can join the White “team” on the game currently in progress, if you like. (See comment 49.)

(45) Beautiful chess set, Raynpho! Are you going to design white pieces, too?

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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 12:31

(52) Adeia, regarding the chess pieces, see comment 9. Raynpho hasn’t yet completed the white pieces.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 13:47

The Pieces:
Chad : Kokopelli. (King)
Aeiou : Urania. (Queen)
Mimi : Pwt. (Bishop)
Craww : Feather. (Knight)
*Blank* : Bo. (Rook)
*Blank* (Bunny?) : Pie. (Pawn)

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Brendan The Science Whiz/Fforde Ffan (7 Brain Points)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 14:48

30:
MEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I call black…
Prepare to face your Chesslike DOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 29th, 2008 @ 15:36

Brendan,

There is a game in progress. It’s White’s move. See comment 49. You may join a team, if you like.

Adeia seems to be trying to start a second game (53), but I think this thread would get awfully complicated with so much going on.

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The Disreputable Dragon

in June 29th, 2008 @ 15:51

Suggestion: Pi chess!
Although that seems like it would be very hard to record, being circular and having 8 colors and all. I shall have to think on that one…
Not that I’m on here enough to carry out a game…

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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (IWAS resident zoologist, I hope...)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 05:56

OOOOOOOOOOOh! How about we rename this thread “Chusse”…Like a weird combination of Muse and chess?

Anyway, I recorded the present position of the board, but am finding it very difficult to visualize. As soon as I’ve overcome my laziness and drawn it, I’ll post a move. I’m playing for the white side…

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 06:33

(59) So far it seems more like “Mess,” but that could change.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:39

Muse Chess, Game 1
White: Bookworm and others
Black: IBCF, ZVX, and others
Last move: Black, comment 48.
Last recap: comment 49.

In the interest of keeping the game from grinding to a halt, the GAPA hereby steps in and makes a move for White: Bishop from f1 to d3 (3. Bd3, …)

New position, with Black to move:
rnbqkb1r ppp1pppp 5n2 3p4 3P4 3BP3 PPP2PPP RNBQK1NR

Your move, Black!

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:41

OK. I’m on black. It’s white’s move, and I’ll have to formulate a plan…

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:45

Let’s see how it looks with periods instead of numerals for empty squares:
rnbqkb.r ppp.pppp .....n.. ...p.... ...P.... ...BP... PPP..PPP RNBQK.NR

Hm, not awful. I don’t think I could play from it, though, and the numerals are quicker to set up on a real chessboard.

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:47

oh, sorry for the double post, d7 to d5!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:51

(64) See post 40. That was Black’s first move.

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Raynpho

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:56

53- Thanks, Robert! I’ll design the white pieces… as soon as I get around to it. Which will be soon, I hope *procrastinator*

The only thing is, Bo will have to be rook for both teams. Unless something else (or a different muse) takes the spot for white rook.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 11:58

I suppose Kokopelli’s puppy, Devil, could be the black rook. Remember him?

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Raynpho

in June 30th, 2008 @ 12:46

67- Oh yeah! I’ll have to find a reference for him. Maybe in the muse fanpage comic archive…

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 12:48

He was in October 2001 and November/December 2002.

There’s a picture of him in the Muse Glossary: https://musefanpage.com/NewFiles/glossary.html .

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Raynpho

in June 30th, 2008 @ 12:54

Thanks I suppose I don’t have any excuse for putting off making the rest of the pieces, then…

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 30th, 2008 @ 14:16

c7 to c6.
rnbqkb1r pp2pppp 2p2n2 3p4 3P4 3BP3 PPP2PPP RNBQK1NR

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 15:31

White’s turn to move!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 30th, 2008 @ 16:37

This is a sloooooow game.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 16:40

We need more people on the White team to move when Bookworm isn’t around — Brendan? Adeia? Hypatia? anybody?

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 16:50

74- I would play, but not having a real chessboard, I’m not entirely sure what this entire thing looks like. If someone could give me a list of all the moves, I could set it up on my computer.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 16:55

The game so far:
1. d4, d5
2. e3, Nf6
3. Bd3, c6
4 …

(1. White pawn from d2 to d4; Black pawn from d7 to d5
2. White pawn from e2 to e3; Black knight from g8 to f6
3. White Bishop from f1 to d3; Black pawn from c8c7 to c6
4. White’s turn to move.)

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 17:00

76- Technically, the pawn can’t go from c8 to c6, being on c7 originally, but OK.

a2 to a4.
rnbqkb1r pp2pppp 2p2n2 3p4 P2P4 3BP3 1PP2PPP RNBQK1NR
Bear in mind I’m not too great at Chess.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in June 30th, 2008 @ 17:44

d8 to d7 (queen).

rnb1kb1r pp1qpppp 2p2n2 3p4 P2P4 3BP3 1PP2PPP RNBQK1NR

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 18:16

rnb.kb.r pp.qpppp ..p..n.. ...p.... P..P.... ...BP... .PP..PPP RNBQK.NR

White’s turn to move.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 20:57

d3 to f5, (Bishop).
rnb . kb . r
pp . qpppp
. . p . . n . .
. . . p . B . .
P . . P . . . .
. . . . P . . .
. PP . . PPP
RNBQK . NR
I hope that’s legal!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:04

It’s legal. Are you sure that’s your move?

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:08

I’m really bad at Chess! Do you think I should?

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:12

80- Bookworm, NO.

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:14

82- No. You’re pretty much saying, “Hey, here I am two squares from the Black Queen with no one covering me. Capture me!”

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:19

Well, if it’s recorded in the GAPAs notes, it’s too late to change it. Oh well.

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:20

ARGH!!! I keep commenting on stuff that doesn’t exist. Ignore my last post. And post 83.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:22

(The GAPA has taken his notes offline, because Alice posted first.)

Does another member of the White team (i.e., Alice) want to overrule Bookworm’s move? That might set a bad precedent. But now that Alice has pointed out the weakness of the move to Black, I suppose she should suggest a better one. I’ll also let Black do the same thing at some point — but just once each. Alice?

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:28

Oh, great. d1 to f3.
rnb1kb1r pp1qpppp 2p2n2 3p4 P2P4 3BPQ2 1PP2PPP RNB1K1NR

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Purple Panda

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:29

I know there is a game in progress, but can this thread still be used to discuss chess?

Does anyone have specific strategies/tactics they use in games?

In almost all other games I am very timid, but I almost always take an aggressive stance in chess — it puts me in a much better position and I am able to achieve more with the game.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 21:32

(88) This GAPA is going to bed. The game so far, in standard notation:

1. d4, d5
2. e3, Nf6
3. Bd3, c6
4. a4, Qd7
5. Qf3, …

Black to move.

(89) I think that’s a good approach. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 23:26

At the top of the thread you’ll find something that will make your lives a bit easier.

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Kokonilly

in June 30th, 2008 @ 23:32

Ooh, very nice! *lurks*

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The Man For Aeiou

in June 30th, 2008 @ 23:33

e5

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in June 30th, 2008 @ 23:40

So noted: Black pawn to e5.

White’s turn to move.

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The Provisional Countess Hypatia (IWAS resident zoologist, I hope...)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 01:05

White knight: e2

*COUGHROCADECOUGH*

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kiwimuncher (2 B-Day points)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 06:29

what do we do here? I’m confused.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 06:31

(96) Look at the position (on the player at the top of the thread), and make a move if you want to and if you haven’t made another move for the opposite side. Or ignore the game and talk about chess in general.

(95) And Hypatia joins the White team.

6. Ne2, …

Black’s turn to move.

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 07:02

I’ll join the white team, too.

How does the new board work? Do the GAPAs update it, or do you type the move in the little box at the bottom?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 07:07

We have to update it ourselves, unfortunately, on the basis of moves posted down here on the thread.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 07:29

WHOA! What does the board at the top do? I didn’t want to hit any of the buttons and ruin the whole game!

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 08:01

Never fear, HAWK: it’s just a player, like the ones that play music. You can’t hurt it or the game.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 08:05

Looks like white needs help. *Sets up chess board*

Okay. It looks to me like the board is as follows.

rnb1kb1r
pp1q1ppp
2p2n2
P2P4
3BPQ2
1PP1NPPP
RNB1K2R

And it’s black’s turn to move.

Red-tailed HAWK

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 08:07

101-Alright! That does help. Thank you!

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 08:42

e5 to e4 (pawn).

rnb1kb1r pp1q1ppp 2p2n2 3p4 P2Pp3 3BPQ2 1PP1NPPP RNB1K2R

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 08:51

104-Nice move, IBCF!!! A fork, yikes! I can see black is doing very well. I hope I can help white a bit!

White: D3 to E4 (bishop)

rnb1kb1r
pp1q1ppp
2p2n2
3p4
P2PB3
4PQ2
1PP1NPPP
RNB1K2R

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 08:58

Black: d5 to e4 (pawn).

rnb1kb1r pp1q1ppp 2p2n2 8 P2Pp3 4PQ2 1PP1NPPP RNB1K2R

Mwahahaha.

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Raynpho

in July 1st, 2008 @ 09:00

I’ll join black, but I think I’ve missed too much of the game to make any sense of it at this point. Maybe I’ll make a move later

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 09:13

107- You should join white. White needs help.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 09:30

WHITE: F3 to F4 (Queen)

rnb1kb1r
pp1q1ppp
2p2n2
8
P2PpQ2
4P3
1PP1NPPP
RNB1K2R

Now now, IBCF. I’m just trying to save white after you discovered the fork! I didn’t leave the pieces such that a fork was possible!

Red-tailed HAWK

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 09:35

108-Some people might rather join the side that is doing better. However, I joined white to help

Red-tailed HAWK

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:18

Black Pawn to d3. White Bishop Captured.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:22

White Pawn to d3. Black Pawn Captured.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:22

Wait–white didn’t move their queen, they took our pawn with their bishop, and then we took their bishop with the pawn on d5. Then white moved their queen. Could you change the chess board up there?

Black: Bishop on f8 to d6.

rnb1k2r pp1q1ppp 2pb1n2 8 P2Pp3 4PpQ2 4P3 1PP1NPPP RNB1K2R

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:23

111- I already made that move on post #106.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:24

Sorry! I was on my Treo and must have missed it. I’ll correct the sequence above. Hold on, please…

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:34

Right. We’re up to date now. Comments 111 and 112 are invalidated. We regret the inconvenience.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:34

115- Thank you very muchly. *waits for white*

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Kokonilly

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:44

Can I help? So far I’ve been lurking.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:52

WHITE: F4 to G5 (Queen)

IBCF, you have nine rows on your board (post 113): I fixed it:

rnb1k2r
pp1q1ppp
2pb1n2
6Q1
P2Pp3
4P3
1PP1NPPP
RNB1K2R

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 10:57

It’s White’s turn to move. You may join the white team and make a move, if you like.

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Kokonilly

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:03

May I join the white team?

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Kokonilly

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:03

Wait. There are a lot of people on the white team. I think I’ll join the black team.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:49

122- Aw, join the white team. Come on.

Black: F6 to G4.

rnb1k2r pp1q1ppp 2pb3 6Q1 P2Pp1n1 4P3 1PP1NPPP RNB1K2R

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:49

(If you give the numbers of the moves, it will help me to keep track of them when I’m moderating under unfavorable conditions.)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:49

123- (That was the knight that moved).

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:55

WHITE move #10

0-0 (Castling. The white King jumps to G1 and the rook hops over onto F1.)

rnb1k2r
pp1q1ppp
2pb1n2
8
P2Pp3
4PpQ2
4P3
1PP1NPPP
RNB2RK1

Red-tailed HAWK

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Kokonilly

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:57

123 – Fine, I’ll join the white team. *sigh*

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 11:58

124- So, the next moves will be number #10.

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:08

f3 to f4. (pawn)

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:10

h2 to h4.

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:19

OK, ZVX wins.

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:21

Except there isn’t an f3. f2 to f4 would work, though.

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:29

So say the US Chess Federation:

x = Take or Capture
0-0 = K-side castle
0-0-0 = Q-side castle
+ = check
# = checkmate
! = good move
? = bad move
?? = blunder

This game is going to get really difficult to play with teams — because if one team wants to make a plan, it’s going to be impossible to keep it a secret from the opposing team and still have the other players on the team know what it is.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:32

129-There’s nothing on f3.

130-Nooooo!

Where did the board go at the top?

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:32

Hm… Castling seems to have crashed my diagram-making software. I may have to find another plug-in…

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:33

Robert-Oh no! I’m sorry to have caused a problem!

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:37

I was wrong: it wasn’t you or the castling, HAWK, it was Black’s illegal move in post 129.

ZVX, did you mean black pawn at c6 to c5?

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points) Deputy of the International Wung Protection Movement.

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:45

right, sorry, I was thinking upside down.

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:49

Comments to WHITE team:

1.) I usually like to make an “escape hatch” in the castle, which helps evade checkmates if a rook or a queen gets to the last row (1) and somehow eliminates our rook. Basically, it’s just moving the current pawn in h2, to h3. When there isn’t another (better) move to take, I highly suggest doing that.

2.) What is our strategy? I know that black will be able to see everything we write here, but is there a general way we would like to continue our gameplay?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:49

137-Oh good, thank you… I think he did mean c6 to c5.

Panda’s right: it will be virtually impossible to keep our plans a secret. Unless… I have your e-mail, Panda!

But that wouldn’t be fair, since others don’t have that option. Phooey!

I do have an idea, but there’s no way to tell you except by doing it!!

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:50

OK, then:

Move 10 — White castles, Black moves pawn from c6 to c5 — correct?

I have the position as follows (HAWK, your diagrams show the white queen in the wrong place). Please verify it:

rnb1k2r pp1q1ppp 2pb4 6Q1 P2Pp1n1 4P3 1PP1NPPP RNB2RK1

And it’s now White’s turn to move.

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Raynpho

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:52

Just a note for the whole piece-designing thing; how does one portray Mimi from the side? Almost as difficult as Koko from the front, methinks.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:56

(140, 133) You’ll just have to make moves so strong that they don’t have to be kept secret. You can call it the “Mostly Harmless” strategy.

It’s White’s move.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:58

Robert-Yours is correct.

WHITE move number 11: G5 to G7 (white Queen takes black pawn)

This diagram shows black’s move ten (C6 to C5) and white’s move eleven, G5 to G7.

rnb1k2r
pp1q1pQp
3b4
2p5
P2Pp1n1
4P3
1PP1NPPP
RNB2RK1

Red-tailed HAWK

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 12:58

Well, I’m still not quite sure how to do the chess notation, but ph3?

(Pawn from h2 to h3, as I described in previous post). Hm. Is that how to say it?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:01

145-Wait! I’m trying to help get us out of this pit we’re in.

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:02

(145) You’d just say “h2-h3” or, more succinctly, “h3” (because nothing else can move to that square). Pawns don’t get their own alphabetical symbol; they’re just designated by the square they’re sitting on.

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:02

Rt-H – sorry, I didn’t see your post when I posted mine. I liked the pawn move because it aided getting black’s knight, but your move is great.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:04

HAWK moved first, so that’s the one I entered.

Black’s turn for move 11.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:05

YIKES! Black is SO CLOSE to giving us a checkmate. Please, give me a chance! We have to balance staying away from a checkmate with staying on the offensive.

Red-tailed HAWK

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:07

OK, I missed a lot of stuff in the few minutes I was gone, but I’ll watch now.

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 13:19

Rt-H — I don’t see the urgent checkmate. I see many moves which could lead to a checkmate eventually, but I don’t think we are in immediate danger. But I definitely agree, we should balance offensive attack and defensive moves.

I can see many ways *we* can checkmate, but they are all done in a number of moves and, of course, depend on where black moves. Whatever we decide to do, it requires coordination of moves between team members, so we are all on the same page.

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Alice, Secretary of the International Wung Appreciation Society

in July 1st, 2008 @ 14:37

If only we had a way of contacting Hypatia and Bookworm…

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 16:28

‘Tis still Black’s turn to move.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 16:34

153-I can’t give you my e-mail, though…

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 18:50

Black: h8 to f8, rook. (Turn: 11).

rnb1kr2 pp1q1pQp 3b4 2p5 P2Pp1n1 4P3 1PP1NPPP RNB2RK1

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 1st, 2008 @ 18:57

White’s move.

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Alice

in July 1st, 2008 @ 19:18

Queen g7 to h7.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 19:30

Black: Queen on d7 to c7. (Turn: 11).

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 1st, 2008 @ 21:28

Whites turn.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 1st, 2008 @ 21:56

White turn 13: H7 to E4 (Queen takes pawn) Check!

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 1st, 2008 @ 22:15

C8 to e6 (Bishop blocks queen). (Turn 13).

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Purple Panda

in July 1st, 2008 @ 22:35

Rt-H — great move!

I played two games of chess with my dad this evening, it was fun!

I’ll think about the game whilst drifting around in sleep tonight, but I think it’s a bit late for me to make a good move at this state of awareness.

*falls asleep and collapses onto floor*

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AthenianPsycho

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 00:48

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [7,337 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 07:51

White move 14: D4 to D5 (Pawn)

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 12:21

On the diagram at the top, has anyone noticed that hitting the button with the up and down arrows lets you toggle between Black’s and White’s view of the board?

(The button with righthand arrows pointing toward a vertical bar takes you to the position of the latest recorded move.)

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Kokonilly

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 12:21

Yeah, I noticed. It’s nifty!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 13:48

Bishop: d6 to h2. Check. (Turn 14).

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 13:52

White’s next move is forced (he has to move the King to h1 to get out of check), so I’ve recorded it; now it’s Black’s turn again.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 13:54

The GAPAs have already moved the King, so… Pawn: f7 to f5.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 13:57

170- Oops! Nononononononono!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:05

Very early in the game, I allowed White to take back one move that would have instantly lost a piece. I said at the time that I would allow Black to do the same thing once during the game. Would you like to invoke that privilege now?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:07

Yes! Please!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:07

White move 15: E4 to E6 (Queen captures bishop, putting king in check)

Red-tailed HAWK

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:09

172-Would letting black take this back get them further than what white was allowed to take back?

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:13

Instead, I move the knight on g4 to f6.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:14

174, 175, 176- Oops…didn’t see HAWK’s posts…

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:16

When white was given the chance to take back a move, they were just saving a piece. They weren’t saving themselves from check (or checkmate). Just thought I’d mention that.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:23

178- Aye, but the piece they had saved could have made a big difference in the game. What piece did they save, anyway?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:35

It was a bishop, probably one you soon after captured. I think it’s fair to say this is a different situation. It would be a very big lucky break for black if the move is recalled.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:37

As far as I’m concerned, a stupid blunder, instantly recognized, is a stupid blunder, instantly recognized. And a sound strategy doesn’t depend on hoping that your opponent makes a big booboo. It works even if en doesn’t throw away a piece.

I’m going with Nf6, because (1) Black is entitled to take back one move, and if not now, when?; (2) White couldn’t checkmate Black immediately anyway, because the Queen has no backup and can’t do it alone; (3) this way, even if White ultimately loses, en can say that en really won.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:41

180- *sigh* Fine, I concede, as I know that nobody will leave the game satisfied if I’m allowed to take back the move. But if you win, you don’t get the right to brag about it.

King from e8 to d8. Your move, white.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:42

Besides, White has a perfectly good response.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:42

181, 182- D’oh! D’oh! D’oh! D’oh! D’oh! D’oh! D’oh! D’oh! D’oh!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:46

182-Is this it?

White move 15: E4 to H4 (Queen)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:47

Hm. Sorry, Musers, I have to get back to work. Another Administrator will have to step in and sort things out, if any are willing.

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Alice

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:49

Ack, I’m confused. Personally, I think we should let Black take back their move, because it doesn’t really matter, does it?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:49

Bishop: e6 to d5. (Turn: 16).

*feels like a cheating villain*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:52

Stop the game for a couple of minutes. I have an idea.

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Alice

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:55

189- An idea? Oh, good.

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Kokonilly

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 14:55

What’s your idea? Please do tell. I’m rather confused.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:02

Look up at the top of the thread.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:09

192- Thank you, Robert.

Version 1.1
*white’s move*

Version 1.2
As I said before, Bishop: e6 to d5. (Turn: 16).
(Just thought I’d note–I’m perfectly willing to sacrifice a bishop and a queen).

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints, 47 brain points)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:14

-193 it’s perfectly good if it helps black win. as always.

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Alice

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:16

Hey, neat.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:19

After these games are over, I’d like the teams to stick around for a post-mortem. I’ve noticed some interesting things about them that I want to point out.

Now I really have to get back to work. I won’t be able to update the charts for the next few hours, so you’ll have to follow along on your boards at home. See you later!

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:27

1.2: Qh4xf6.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:44

Version 1.2:

Bishop on e5 to d4.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 15:54

198-There is no bishop on e5.

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Purple Panda

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:34

Ackh! This is so confusing. So, there are currently two versions of the same game?

*confuzzlement*

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:42

200-I think Robert was just showing us how it would have been. We seem to be going with the second version, the one where black takes back a move to avoid check.

I’m waiting to see why IBCF is trying to move a bishop that doesn’t exist!

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:42

200-Exactly!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:44

(201) *returns for 10 seconds of moderation*

HAWK, I thought you might enjoy playing both games out to their bloody conclusions — like parallel universes. Black is waiting for a move in Game 1.1.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:45

201-I think he meant Bd5c4. IBCF?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:52

204- Right. That one.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 16:57

203-Oh, okay! Thank you. For some reason there’s a glitch when you come to move 14 on the first game. The Pawn won’t move. I’ll work on a move, it might take a minute since I can’t see waht the board actually looks like.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:03

Game 1.2, White move 18: B1 to C3 (Knight)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:09

Version 1.2, turn 18:

Rook on f8 to g8.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:17

Game 1.1, White move 17: E3 to E4 (Pawn)

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:22

Version 1.2, Turn 19: Bc1d2.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:23

Game 1.2, White move 19: B2 to B3 (Pawn)

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:24

210-What?

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:32

212-Never mind. Let’s take your move, (Post 211), as the true one, not Post 110!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:38

Version 1.2, turn 19:

Queen on c7 to c6.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:49

um….. can someone fill me in on the current position of all the pieces? I will join black if I know what is happening>?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 17:58

215- Please don’t move on version 1.2. It might not seem like it, but I know exactly what I’m doing.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:08

ok… if you say so. I will be patient. *gets bored very quickly* *goes to look for a kokovention thread* *will return eventually*

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:13

AHHHH! Emergency move!

V. 1.2 White move 20: F2 to F3

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:15

??? What was wrong with taking the queen?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:16

You all probably think I’m a stupid crazy person for not moving the Queen, but I’m not.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:17

Don’t even need to say the coordinates–Hasta la vista, queen. *takes queen with own queen*

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Purple Panda

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:17

Good one, Rt-H! I’ve been worried black might move there for awhile, but I’m glad you caught it!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:17

219-Ah! *Stupid* Since black took a bigger break than we did, now we get to take this move back

Sorry, I was in a rush to make sure we weren’t in a checkmate. Can we take it back?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:19

Things are moving too quickly! What are we going with?

221-Please do anyway.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:19

223- Oh, fine. You can.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:19

The deal was one move each. Beyond that, it’s up to the two teams.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:20

223- Wait–a bigger break? That was nowhere near checkmate!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:21

225-Thank you.

White move 20: F6 to C6 (Queen) (Check)

Take the queen, IBCF! I know you want to

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:22

Okay, do you or do you not want to take the move back? I’m okay with either.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:25

And on that exciting note, this GAPA must tune out for at least another hour. Others may moderate, but the diagrams will not be updated until I return.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:25

Knight: b8 to c6. Takes queen.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:25

I am playing faster than I do in real life. And I was afraid we were going to end up with a checkmate. Thus my hasty move

229-I would. And I think 228 is our new move. Right, teammates?

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the pyromaniac

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:30

*returns* *is STILL confused and bored* *leaves*

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 18:55

Version 1.1

Queen: c7 to h7 (turn 17)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:00

It’s now White’s turn to move in both games.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:16

V. 1.1 White’s move 18: C1 to G5 (Bishop) Check!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:29

V 1.1: King: D8 to c7.

I’m gonna lose.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:36

237- No, I’m not. Optimism, IBCF, optimism!

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Purple Panda

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:48

Ah, this is too confusing. *brain dies*

On a brighter note, I just beat my dad in a game of chess.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:50

Congratulations, Pan!

Much hinges on White’s next move…

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:53

240-Exactly why I’m still thinking about it! I know I can’t mess up again…

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 20:54

Oh, and yes, Congratulations, Panda!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 21:33

White: V. 1.1, move 19: G2 to G3 (Pawn)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 21:42

Hm! You’re a braver hawk than I am. I’d have traded queens. Let’s see what happens now.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 21:51

V 1.1

Pawn on f5 to e4. Takes white’s pawn.

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Purple Panda

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 21:56

I think there’s something really strange about playing chess on the computer. I always do way better when I’m looking at a real chess board. I’m not sure what about the tangible pieces and board helps me, but it seems so much easier.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 2nd, 2008 @ 22:22

Take the knight, HAWK! Takeittakeittakeittakeittakeit! Muahahahaha!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 08:08

I suspect HAWK is after bigger prey.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 08:35

V. 1.1 White’s move 20: D5 to D6 (Check)

*Gulp* *Hits submit*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 08:49

Exciting! Now, while you wait for a response, how about a little progress on the long-neglected v. 1.2?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 09:23

V. 1.2 White’s move 21: B3 to C4 (Pawn takes bishop)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 09:57

King from c7 to c6.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 09:58

v.2:

Rook on g8 moves to h8, to protect bishop in front of king

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 11:29

Every time I try to send in my move, two of the lights go out in my DSL box. I am sending this to see if it still does it.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 11:41

Maybe your DSL box is trying to give you advice.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 12:34

255-Maybe! That would be scary.

My posts seem to be disappearing left and right. On different threads even. Oh no, why must the dear internet go when I am blogging?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 13:05

Chessplayers —

I’ve got a busy afternoon but should be able to log in for about 1 minute every hour to post any new moves you all happen to make. Don’t expect updates any more often than that, though.

This is my 1:00 (blog time) check-in. As of now, it’s White’s turn to move on both boards.

*vanishes*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 14:01

*checks in at 2:00* *vanishes*

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 14:37

Hawk, are your posts still vanishing? Anyone else on white want to move? Bookworm? Purple Panda?

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 14:39

259-Nope, they seem to go through now. Wait a minute…

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 14:58

This is a tough move to make. I’m going to let it sit in my brain for bit and I’ll come back.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 16:01

*yawns* *looks at watch*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 17:05

This game appears to be seriously stalled. To get it unstuck, and to free HAWK from the agony of overthinking, the beneficent GAPA recommends a three-move medicinal dose of Chess-Lax, the chess laxative, as follows:

20. Pawn to d7, check (from the Queen)

Black has to play King to d7 (forced).

21. Pawn to d8, turns into a Queen, with check.

Black’s Rook has to take the new Queen on d8

22. Bishop to f4, check

Black’s turn to move.

What say you, White team? Does it work for you?

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Purple Panda

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 17:26

Sorry I haven’t been much help to the games…it’s just really difficult for me to come into a game like this, taking breaks in between and coming back trying to re-asses the situation.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 17:33

V 1.2: White: Turn 22: Nf4!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 17:34

I think that if MBers are going to play chess as a team sport, they’re going to have to enjoy the game for its own sake and stop caring so much about who wins. (That’s hard for serious chessplayers to do, I know. One-on-one games are probably better for them.)

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 19:23

263-Thank you so much!!! I was considering that, but I was overthinking it big time. Let’s go with those moves. You’re right.

265-I’ll trust you know where you’re going with that

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Purple Panda

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 19:33

Robert (266): Enjoying the game for its own sake. Hm. Not sure how to do that. Now that I think about it, I probably fall under the category of a “serious chess player.”

*sigh*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 19:43

All right, Black: game ~~1.2~~1.1 is once again afoot. White moves the pawn from d6 to d7, putting you in check from the white queen. Black’s move on both boards!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 19:49

263- V 1.1: My rook moves to d6 to protect the king. But please, no more hints for HAWK on v 1.1.

V 1.2: Rook on a8 to d8.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 19:53

269- Hey, what??? Bookworm just made a move, didn’t he?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:00

269- I do everything you say I do to the end of post #263.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:03

v. 1.2 Bf4

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:13

opps, post 270 wasn’t up yet.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:15

273-IBCF already moved.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:25

Let’s get v. 1.2 straightened out. (Please start numbering your moves again.)

(265) 22. White: Knight to f4
(270) 22. Black: Rook from a8 to d8 (submitted before TMFA’s move but moderated at the same time)

Right so far? Anything else?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:35

276- Right. Hurry up, white.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:37

276-I was about to suggest a great move, but my board doesn’t match that at the top. I need to fix that!

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Purple Panda

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:39

Next game, I think I’ll keep a real chess board of the game, which I think might help me think about strategy and maybe suggest moves. We’ll see.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:45

279-I’ve been keeping V. 1.2, or I thought I was, on a real chess board. But clearly something’s wrong; they don’t match!

Oh, and I keep meaning to mention: I apologize for being so late sending my piece. Hopefully tomorrow I’ll get it done. I thought I could do it Wednesday, but I haven’t had time. I’ve barely been able to keep up with the Chess game when I do pop in here

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:48

We can’t see your board, so I suppose you’ll have to change it and use our position.

You can go back through the thread and replay it if you think I’ve made a mistake. It’s all in there somewhere.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:51

281-Ah, I’ve located the problem. I had moved a piece to see what things would look like if I had actually moved it there. But I never did move it. It’s a shame, it was a good move

*Pies self*

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 20:58

280- Can’t you just move now? This chess game’s been making me nervous. I couldn’t go to sleep last night, trying to think up new strategies.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:08

It was confusing for a while there when the games diverged — especially as the players didn’t always give the correct moves (or even possible moves) first time around.

IBCF wants White to move in v. 1.2. If White is paralyzed, the GAPA reserves the right to step in and supply a move for en.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:13

V. 1.2 White’s move 23: F4 to H3 (Knight)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:13

All right, Musers. If White can’t or won’t move, the beneficent Administrator hereby declares White’s next move to be Knight from f4 to h3.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:14

286-AHAHAH! I’m glad we’re on the same page, Robert! I trust my move is logical if you also chose it!

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:18

284- Actually, I’m more concerned about v 1.1. There’s still a good chance of me winning, you know.

v 1.2:

Bishop: h2 to b8.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:37

White to move.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:45

V. 1.1 White’s move 24: E6 to D6. (Queen) Check

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:51

v. 1.1 – move 24: Black is forced to move the King to c8.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 21:57

White to move on both sides.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:07

Is HAWK still online? Because if not, the chess GAPA might as well go to bed.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:08

We’ll give him ten minutes.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:11

Methinks he’s gone.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:15

Four minutes, and then I’m offline. Moderation may be a bit slow tomorrow. Too bad — things are exciting here.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:17

TMFA, you use standard notation and terminology. Do you play in tournaments?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:21

Right, lads and lasses: this GAPA is gone — as most of you are, judging by the leaden stillness hereaouts. Sweet dreams, and see you on the morrow!

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:23

297- no. I just really, really like chess.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:26

296- Darn. Wish HAWK didn’t live way over on the east coast.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 3rd, 2008 @ 22:29

I had to take a shower before I could move. Good night, Robert!

I will post a move tomorrow morning. I think I’ll go to bed, especially if there won’t be any moderation now anyway. But I shall post it tomorrow!

Red-tailed HAWK

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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)

in July 4th, 2008 @ 07:24

Raynpho’s design for white:

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 4th, 2008 @ 07:52

Awww.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 4th, 2008 @ 08:17

302-Wow, amazing!

Why don’t we give the GAPAs a rest? Already they say moderation may be slow. What if we agree to not move in the game, or post in general, so the GAPAs can have a break? At least we can do this for the fourth of July!!! Let’s see if we can be mature enough (and caring enough) to give them a break.

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 4th, 2008 @ 08:33

The GAPA doesn’t really mind. If he gets tired of moderating, he can always just stop.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 4th, 2008 @ 20:05

Alright, I’ll move:

V. 1.1 white move 25: D6 to E6. Check

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 4th, 2008 @ 20:10

V 1.1:

King: C8 to D8. (Turn 25).

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 4th, 2008 @ 20:48

V 1.2: White: Turn 24: Nd5!

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 4th, 2008 @ 21:00

V 1.2: Black: Turn 24: f6

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 4th, 2008 @ 21:05

V 1.2: White: Turn 25: Nxf6+!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 4th, 2008 @ 21:07

V. 1.1 White move 26: Rd1+ Check

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 01:24

v 1.1

Knight: b8 to d7. (Turn 26).

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 01:29

v 1.2

King from e8 to f7.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 09:02

V. 1.1 white move 27: Bg5+ Check

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 14:10

Black’s move on Board 1.1, White’s move on Board 1.2.

(For some reason, this thread has been closed for the past few hours. We regret the inconvenience.)

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 14:36

V 1.2: White: Move 26: Bb2!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 14:39

315-No problem.

316-Great move! I’m going to let you take that game for a while; you seem to be doing well, and know what you’re doing, so I won’t interfere!

Red-tailed HAWK

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 15:09

317-Thanks, Hawk!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 15:44

It’s now Black’s turn to move on both boards.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 15:46

V 1.1:

King from d8 to c8. (Turn: 27)

V 1.2:

Knight from c6 to e5. (Turn: 26)

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 16:01

V 1.2: White: Turn 27: Bxe5!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 16:04

White move 28, V. 1.1: E6 to E8 (Queen) Check

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 16:29

Board 1.1: Black is forced to move the King to c7; White’s move. Board 1.2: Black’s move.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 16:38

V 1.2:

*takes bishop on e5 with bishop on b8*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 16:41

White’s turn to move on both boards.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 18:33

White move 29, V. 1.1: Bf4+ Check

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 5th, 2008 @ 18:46

Kb6

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 5th, 2008 @ 18:49

That should be Black move 29, V. 1.1: Kb6

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:06

V 1.1:

Knight from g4 to e5.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:14

328- I disagree. I think we should move the knight.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:17

329- thats a better move then mine. Let’s use that.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:26

Actually, I think I’d have moved the other knight (on d7) to e5. But 329 it shall be.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:32

332- Wouldn’t have made a difference. The worst possible outcome would be the same.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:36

The worst possible outcome never quite seems to happen in these games, for either player. It’s been interesting to watch.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 19:37

White’s move, on both boards.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 20:02

V. 1.1 White’s move 30: Bxe5+ Check

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 5th, 2008 @ 20:37

Nxe5

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 20:56

337- No! I have a better plan. Just wait…

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 20:57

V. 1.1 White’s move 31: Qxe5+ Check

I’m leaving for a bit, but I’ll be back. Fear not!

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 20:58

Dangit dangit dangit! TMFA, that will lead to checkmate!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 21:00

(340) If you can see a plan that doesn’t lead to checkmate, I can always split off another variation and let you test it. But I’m not sure Black has anything much better at this point.

(If at move 27 Black had played Kc7 instead of Kc8, White might have eventually run out of checks. Since then, though, I don’t think Black has had much choice.)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 21:05

341- Fine, then…

V 1.1

King c7 to c6.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 21:11

IBCF, I’ve created “1.1 Variations” in case you want to look for a better move than 30. … Nxe5. But if you move the King, Qe6+ still wins.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 21:43

White’s move 32, V. 1.1: Qd6# Checkmate

I don’t know where IBCF is going with the “variations” board. I will be very interested to see! *Excited*

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 21:58

(344) HAWK, let me show you a variation I noticed a few moves back. (It’s on the viewer now.)

25. Qf8+ Kd7
26. Rd1+ Ke6
27. Rd6++

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Kokonilly

in July 5th, 2008 @ 21:59

This is confusing.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:11

345-Wow! That was a much faster way of checkmating. Much easier, safer.

You seem an excellent chess player.

Red-tailed HAWK

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:13

No, I know what I should have done. I should have moved my king to c8 instead of c6 on turn 31. Then I might have won. Not sure if you knew this, HAWK, but if you had not checked me for one turn, you would have lost.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:20

If you had done that, then

32. Qxc5+ Qc7
33. Qf8+

and mate on the next move (see viewer). Or

32. … Kb8
33. Rd8++ (mate)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:23

349- Not so. I could have moved in my queen to protect.

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:23

348-Oh, I knew. That’s why I kept putting you in check every single move

*Holds out wing* Aw, go ahead and shake it; just not too hard

You’re a good chess player, you know. Very good.

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:27

(349) I don’t think so, with the Rook staring down the d file. Look at the variation viewer.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:31

351- *shakes HAWK’s ~~hand~~ wing* You’re a great chess player, too. And since you’re so good, you will no longer recieve mercy in v. 1.2…hehehe…

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:42

IBCF and HAWK —

I’ll show you one more game 1.1 variation and then let you get on with game 1.2.

Suppose that on move 27, instead of playing Kc8, Black had played Kc7. Then White’s only check would have been Kd6+. Then Black’s King could have gone to c8 — and White would have had no more checks, because the black Knight guards both the Pawn at c5 and the square f8. Have a look!

What would you have done then, HAWK?

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 5th, 2008 @ 22:54

354- He certainly would have moved his king away from my queen’s wrath, and my little scheme would have been ruined.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 5th, 2008 @ 23:03

You mean Kg2? He could have done that anyway.

Congratulations to both sides on an exciting, hard-fought game!

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ï£¿ Â¡Red-tailed HAWK! ï£¿ [6,937 piepoints Â©, 16 spdzk points and 22 KAG points] ï¿½|ï¿½

in July 6th, 2008 @ 07:06

353-

354-That’s an interesting point, and I would have run out of checks that way. But, Qd6+ isn’t the only check; I could still move Bf4+.

356-Agreed, IBCF fought long and hard, and kept me very unsure of how the game would end! Every time I could think of the best possible move in a situation, IBCF would use it.

I likely won’t have frequent blog access until Tuesday. IBCF, could we wait until then to start any new games? Bookworm seems to be active in V. 1.2, so could that keep you busy until I get back? I would like to play again. I also think a little rest for our brains wouldn’t be a bad idea. Mine is fried. My brain played out random chess moves the whole time I was trying to get to sleep last night!

Red-tailed HAWK

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 07:36

(357) If 28. Bb4+, then Black plays 28. … Kd8, and the only check is to move the Bishop back where it was (or to take the Knight with the Rook).

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 6th, 2008 @ 08:40

Don’t start a new game (2.0, lets call it) untill I get back on Satuday!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 6th, 2008 @ 08:59

357- Sure, I’ll wait. Now, where is Bookworm…?

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 09:24

V 1.2: White: Turn 28: Rb1!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 6th, 2008 @ 09:33

V 1.2: King f7 to f6. (Turn 28).

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 16:42

As it has now been more than nine hours since the last move, the GAPA takes the liberty of moving for White:

Pawn from f2 to f4 (29. f4)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 6th, 2008 @ 17:43

Bishop e5 to f6. (Turn 29)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 18:06

Isn’t your King already on f6? (Oddly, the chess-diagram software appears to let you capture your own King, but even in Muse Chess I don’t think we can count that as a legitimate move.)

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 6th, 2008 @ 19:30

365- Er, wrong direction. I meant d6. Eh heh.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 19:39

30. King to g1.

(Don’t worry. I promise not to make more than one more move, just to give you something to do, but some other members of the White team had better show up soon.)

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Ê‘yviva

in July 6th, 2008 @ 20:13

I am reminded of the ches issue of Muse…. when did that come out again?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 20:20

You mean the one with “Harry Potter’s Chess Teacher”? September 2002.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 6th, 2008 @ 22:36

Rook from h8 to h7. (Turn 30)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 6th, 2008 @ 22:51

31. Rook from b1 to d1.

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 7th, 2008 @ 00:51

371- Darn you, Robert.

King: f6 to e6. (Turn 31).

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 01:02

Hey, you don’t stretch your chess muscles if your opponent makes things easy for you.

Are you sure you want to move Ke6? What if White plays Knight to g5 check, forking your King and your Rook?

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 7th, 2008 @ 10:35

am I allowed to join now? I have reviewed all moves and know where we are. if that would make things too confusing, then I dont have to.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 10:41

As far as I’m concerned, anybody should be able to join at any time — but the current players may have other ideas. Which team do you have in mind?

In any case, I don’t think you’d better post a move until we’re sure whether IBCF really meant to post his last one.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 7th, 2008 @ 10:49

I can play for whoever will have me, or not at all if that would mess everything up. I can be patient

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 10:55

Let’s put you on the White team then — but no moves just yet, please.

Alice, Hypatia, Purple Panda — feel free to move for White in game 1.2. I’ve just been doing it because nobody else has been. (But not yet, please.)

In my GAPA capacity, I’ll be happy to discuss strategy and tactics with either side. The position looks pretty clear at this point; I don’t think either White or Black has many secrets from the other.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 7th, 2008 @ 11:19

ok! that’s fine by me, if they dont mind having another player. I have some ideas, but will do nothing just yet

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 7th, 2008 @ 11:19

thank you robert!

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ÃÃŸâ‚¬Æ’

in July 7th, 2008 @ 14:17

373- Good point. King to e7 (Turn 31).

I’m much better at Chinese Chess than international chess.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 14:52

32. Kf2

Attention! Earthgirl, Alice, Hypatia et al. Does anybody want to make a move soon?

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 17:53

I would like to move! May I offer a different move in place of 381, or not? If so, Ng5!

[Sorry, BW — I’m on my Treo and couldn’t edit the file if I wanted to. I am curious, though, about why you think moving the Knight to g5 is a better move. What exactly does it accomplish?]

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 19:30

Just for fun, let me explain to you how I look at this board, and what I look for.

First, there’s how many pieces each side has (the balance of material, a chessplayer would say). White has two Rooks; so does Black. White has a Knight; Black has a Bishop. Knights and Bishops are about equally powerful, so that’s balanced, too. The big difference is that White has three extra Pawns — and they’re all alone on their part of the board, with no black Pawns lying ahead of them.

That’s a crucial advantage and should be enough for White to win. By pushing the Pawns toward the other side of the board, White might be able to promote at least one of them to a new Queen. If not, then Black might be forced to trade one or more pieces for a Pawn or two. In the best-case scenario, White might be able to use the Pawns to smother Black’s King back on his first row (the eighth rank, in chess terminology).

Ideally, then, White would like to exchange off all the pieces — the Rooks, the Knight, and the Bishop — and then march the Pawns across to victory. Black, of course, wants to keep as many pieces on the board as possible in order to stop the Pawns and generally find ways to annoy White. So that’s one basic difference of strategy right off the bat.

To move the Pawns forward, White will need to support them with the White pieces, including the King. That’s a little risky, as it could expose the King to attack by the Black pieces. But White has a wall of Pawns to protect the King, and good, strong Rooks and Knight. It’s probably worth it as long as White doesn’t make any big mistakes.

The Pawns on the left side of the board (from White’s point of view) aren’t in such good shape. Unlike Black’s Pawns, which stand side by side, White’s Pawns can’t link up to support one another. They’re isolated. The Pawns on the c file are also doubled — and isolated doubled pawns are much weaker than singlets. If Black could find a way to attack them with a Rook (say, from behind), en could just pick them off one after the other, munch, munch. Not good.

One key is the d5 square. If White moves the Rook to d5 and Black then decides to capture it with the Black Rook, then White can recapture with the c Pawn — undoubling the weak Pawn and adding another Pawn to the marching wall. Advancing the other Pawn to c4 would then support the Pawn on d5. As an alternative, d5 would make a good, strong outpost for the Knight. It’s a white square, so the black Bishop can’t touch it.

The one thing White does NOT want is for Black to get a rook behind the White lines. The two most likely ways to do that are on one of the open files, the d file or the h file. So White wants to keep those files as closed as possible, either by guarding them with Rooks (as the Rook on d1 is doing now) or by blocking them with another piece (the Knight on h3). That’s one reason not to move the Knight yet. Another one is that a Knight move will be more powerful if White can deliver it while putting the black King in check. (Black, of course, wants VERY MUCH to get a Rook behind White’s Pawns, probably by doubling up the Rooks on an open file.)

I see a few other odds and ends in the position, but those are the main things, for both sides — just in case you’re curious (which, I’m betting, you aren’t any longer).

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 19:43

I wanted to threaten the Black Rook on h7!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 19:45

I see. And after Black moves the Rook to another square, what has White accomplished?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 7th, 2008 @ 19:55

I’ll tell you what, Bookworm: You go ahead and make White’s next move if you’re around when the time comes. I’ll wait for you (though if Alice or Hypatia or earthgirl gets there first, I won’t chase her away). But please think about what you’re doing and how it helps you toward your goals.

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Purple Panda

in July 7th, 2008 @ 22:30

I played chess with my dad again this evening. And I beat him again Muse Chess has reminded me to play chess more often, and I think I’m getting better…my rustiness seems to be wearing away.

Robert: Does the chess program you use to keep track of the games (at the top of the thread) allow you to make en passant captures?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 06:51

It’s Black’s turn to move.

(387) En passant captures are no problem. It’s a very clever program, except that it gets indigestion if you feed it an impossible move (though, oddly, it seems to let you capture your own pieces).

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 14:19

Okey-Dokey! Once Black moves, I’ll be next! I now have a better idea!

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 20:34

Black?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 20:44

Maybe the GAPA will have to move for Black now.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 20:45

Will You?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 20:56

Black moves Pawn from b7 to b6.

This move defends the Pawn at c5 from possible attack a few moves down the line, and strengthens the b Pawn against a possible Rook attack along the b file.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 21:11

V 1.2: White: Turn 33: Rh1!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 8th, 2008 @ 21:33

34 – Black Rook moves from d8 to h8; White’s turn to move.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 9th, 2008 @ 07:09

Rh2!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 9th, 2008 @ 09:45

Black’s 34th move: Rook to g7; White’s turn.

It looks as if White wants to shift the action to the h file. If Black wants to hang on to ens Rooks, that seems like a good place for Black not to be.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 9th, 2008 @ 16:33

I’m on white right? if so, p on e3 to e4
((are we playing that if you get a pawn to the opposite side of the board, you get to reclaim a piece that got captured? that was the reason behind that move:if we get that pawn to the other side, we can reclaim our queen!))

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 9th, 2008 @ 17:01

(398) Black’s Bishop takes the pawn on f4 (35 … Bxf4); White’s turn to move.

Yes, Pawns that reach the far side of the board can be turned into other pieces — usually, but not necessarily, Queens.

(Black’s reasoning for this move: White’s e Pawn no longer protects the pawn on f4. White’s Knight appears to guard the Pawn, but White will lose the Rook at h2 if the Knight moves. Thus, Black has a chance to break up White’s formidable wall of Pawns.)

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in July 9th, 2008 @ 19:11

Nooooo… There goes my plan… *Thinks* *Has Idea* Pawn g2 to g3! (Reasoning: Defends my Rook without losing Position, and Challenges Bishop!)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 9th, 2008 @ 19:45

35 – Black’s Bishop takes the Pawn at g3, check.

The Pawn was defended only by the white King but was attacked by Black’s Bishop and Rook, so there was nothing to keep Black from taking it.

Bookworm — after the game, we can create a separate diagram and explore your plan, if you like.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 10th, 2008 @ 11:45

I’m sooo sorry bookworm!
thank you for having ideas to save us all!
I will wait until foolproof insparation strikes me untill I make another move. nice one Robert

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 10th, 2008 @ 11:51

Ok! I have an insparation!!! Kr1 ((were using the bottom board, right?))

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 10th, 2008 @ 13:12

earthgirl — Do you mean King to g1? I’ll assume so.

(Yes, we are using the bottom board. The middle board now has the position Bookworm had reached with his plan.)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 10th, 2008 @ 14:06

Move 37 – Black’s Bishop takes the Rook at h2, check (in fact, it’s a double check — ever seen one of those?); White’s turn to move.

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in July 10th, 2008 @ 16:02

V 1.2: White: Move 38: Kxh2!
V 1.2 Vari: White: Move 35: Re1h1!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 10th, 2008 @ 16:29

38 – Black moves his Rook to h4 (38. … Rh4)

35 (variation, for Bookworm) – Black moves his Rook to f8 (35. … Rf8).

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 10th, 2008 @ 17:33

36 (Variation) Ng5!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 10th, 2008 @ 23:40

White’s turn to move in the “real” game (bottom board, v. 1.2).

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 11th, 2008 @ 08:55

36 (Variation) – Black’s Rook takes White’s Knight on g5 (36. …Rxg5).

It looks as if things are about to get exciting.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 11th, 2008 @ 08:59

It’s still White’s turn to move in the main game (bottom board) — anybody?

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Alice

in July 11th, 2008 @ 14:05

Fine, I’ll move. I hope I don’t, like, kill the game or anything.
c2 to c3.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 11th, 2008 @ 14:12

Thanks! Now, if some members of the Black team will just show up…

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 11th, 2008 @ 15:57

Pawn f4 Captures g5! (In the Variation!)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 11th, 2008 @ 15:59

It can’t, because the white King would be in check from the black Rook.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 11th, 2008 @ 16:02

Botheration! *Decides to Wait*

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Taiwan Hippo Fan

in July 13th, 2008 @ 11:21

I’ll play! I’m not very good, though, and I might get confused and make a move that doesn’t work. So please be patient with me. Hehe.

So I’m black?

Okay, well, I’m not going to move until I get officially assigned a king.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 13th, 2008 @ 11:30

(417) I’ve added your name to the Black team. Your King and position are on the bottom board. You may move at will.

(Purple Panda is on the White team, as you may have noticed.)

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 14th, 2008 @ 19:36

I concede the variation!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 14th, 2008 @ 21:10

(412) Black’s Rook takes the white Pawn on e4 (39. … Rxe4).

(419) I wouldn’t — not on the position’s own merits, anyway. After checking Black with a Rook and taking the Pawn on a7, White has four Pawns for a Bishop, and a Rook on the seventh rank. Black will have a lot of trouble stopping those Pawns, if White plays patiently. I think most tournament players would call it a win for White.

Of course, if you’re just tired of playing and want to do something else, that’s different.

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Purple Panda

in July 14th, 2008 @ 21:15

I’m still following the game, but I don’t think I can make any moves. It’s a bit too choppy for me — I think I’m more of a solo player, especially if I can’t communicate plans to other teammembers.

And yes, it definitely looks like a White win. At least, if nobody makes a “brainless blunder.” This is one of my favorite setups, because I love coordinating pawns. If it’s thought out carefully, pawn-plan-idea-things can be really powerful.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 14th, 2008 @ 21:27

(421) Pan — As Bookworm has resigned, I’d say you could take over the White pieces entirely and play for the win. Nobody would object. I’d be happy either to keep moving for Black or to turn Black over to THF. Although I’ve said I think White can win, Black is still kicking and can certainly make trouble.

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Purple Panda

in July 14th, 2008 @ 21:48

Wow, really? That seems like an awfully big responsibility. I definitely don’t have the brain to do it right now, as I’m about to go to sleep, and I’m going to be gone from 8:15-12:30 tomorrow, but when I get back I’ll set up a chess board and take a look. I don’t want to hold other people up, though. So in the meantime, other people can go ahead and play, and if the game’s still going tomorrow, I’d love to play.

White *can* win, but Black still can, too. It’ll certainly take concentration.

Also, what is the extra board for? I know two of them were made because a move-14-blunder, but what of the other? *confuzzlement*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 14th, 2008 @ 21:55

The bottom board contains a blunder by White at move 35. The middle board does not. By clicking the arrows on the players, you can march through the games move by move and see where they diverge.

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The Bookworm & Lurline (410 piepoints and two B-Day Points and 42 KAG Points!)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 05:54

Please take over for me, Pan! I would much appreciate it!

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 15th, 2008 @ 09:59

Tell me when Game2 starts. this is confusing.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 10:36

I’ve simplified things a little. Game 1.1 is over. Game 1.2 (which diverged from 1.1 at move 14) continues, with Purple Panda playing White and me playing Black.

I’ll start a separate thread for Game 2 soon — or maybe intersperse some problems to solve first.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 15th, 2008 @ 10:46

Robert, Bf4. Thats all I’m saying.

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints 47 brain points)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 10:56

rook to G4 on next move.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 12:04

(428, 429) Thanks for the ideas, but I think a lot depends on what White does first.

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 12:27

So, just to make sure, we’re playing on the bottom board, right?

I just got home (sorry it took so long, I had to bike and there were a lot of hills), so I’m going to set up the board.

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 12:28

Er, wait. There isn’t a middle board anymore. Never mind, then!

*sets up*

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 12:43

g3

(I really haven’t learned chess notation very well at all, so correct me if I make mistakes)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 12:57

Purple Panda — “g3” means moving a Pawn to square g3, but you already have a Pawn there. What are you trying to do?

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 12:59

The pawn was on g2, at least when I looked at the board last. I was moving the pawn from g2 to g3.

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Rebecca Lasley (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 13:02

(434, 435) I’m the culprit. I added Pan’s move when I moderated her post.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 13:07

Aha! Sorry — I should have checked the transcript.

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 13:16

So, who are the active players on the Black team?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 13:23

ZVX and IBCF were playing for a while, but they haven’t moved lately. THF joined the team but hasn’t moved yet. I’ll make the next move for Black just to keep things going: Rook from g5 to f5.

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 13:39

Ra1

(Rook from h1 to a1).

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muselover

in July 15th, 2008 @ 13:57

Wow…400 POSTS ON A TOPIC I THOUGHT UP! YIPPEE!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 14:10

It’s Black’s turn to move. (I’ll move eventually if nobody else does, but I have work to do now.)

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 14:32

THF is at camp until 4:00, and we’re going on a picnic dinner after that so she won’t be back for awhile, if you were waiting for her.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 15:13

Black decides to live dangerously and play ens Bishop to e5 (38. … Be5).

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 15th, 2008 @ 16:35

Kr1

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 16:38

Sorry, eaeatTRPV: Purple Panda has a monopoly on White moves at the moment.

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor

in July 15th, 2008 @ 16:40

ok, well, let’s say that that was a suggestion which is now useless lince the black players (robert…) have seen it.

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Purple Panda

in July 15th, 2008 @ 17:19

I’m back!

Ra3

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 15th, 2008 @ 22:53

Sorry, Purple Panda! I was very busy at work today and went out afterward, so I haven’t been able to post Black’s move — which, by the way, is Bishop to b2 (39. … Bb2).

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Purple Panda

in July 16th, 2008 @ 06:33

Gahck. I was worried about that. *grumbles*

Rd3.

I’m going to be gone for the majority of the day today (8:15-4:00 for volunteering, then I’m visiting my mom in the hospital and biking all the way home), but I’ll check back before I leave at 8, in case anyone moved.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 16th, 2008 @ 07:26

40. … Rh8.

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Taiwan Hippo Fan

in July 16th, 2008 @ 16:09

Please don’t turn black over to me, mainly because if you did it would just be a game between me and my sister. And also because I’m horrible at chess.

But I am playing, for sure.

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Purple Panda

in July 16th, 2008 @ 18:06

Pan has returned!

(452) Yes, I’m always looking for someone to play chess with me, because my dad isn’t always home, but THF never wants to. She says she’s not very good and I’ll win, but I think she’ll get a lot better just by playing.

Oh, and when I said White could win, I meant white could win. My confidence = *brain explosion*

Rxh8. (Is that how to notate a capture? Rh8, capturing the rook currently on h8.)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 16th, 2008 @ 18:26

Black plays Bishop takes Rook (41. … Bxh8).

Yes, your notation was impeccable. And don’t worry about your confidence: you’re doing fine.

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Purple Panda

in July 16th, 2008 @ 19:05

Rd5.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 16th, 2008 @ 20:01

Black moves the Rook to f6 (42. … Rf6).

It was probably a mistake for me to trade away the other two Rooks. For Black’s 39th move, I probably should have moved this Rook back to f7, preventing a check along the h file. Still, this variation is interesting, too.

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Purple Panda

in July 16th, 2008 @ 20:51

Rh5

I was a bit hesitant about the trade, but ultimately decided it was a good decision. I’m always sad to see rooks go, though, as my favorite piece is the rook.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 16th, 2008 @ 21:20

43. … Bg7

I like Rooks, too. They’re so solid.

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Purple Panda

in July 17th, 2008 @ 07:13

Rh7.

I’ll be gone the majority of the day today, too, but I can check the game around 4:00 because my mom’s hospital room has internet.

Until then!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 17th, 2008 @ 07:49

Black’s King moves to f7, protecting the Bishop (44. … Kf7).

Say hi to your mother! We exchanged e-mail messages yesterday. It was good to hear that things are going well.

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Purple Panda

in July 17th, 2008 @ 14:37

*skips in*

I even brought my chess set with me, so I can set it up here at the hospital! Yay for preparation!

I also brought it in hopes of getting Mom to play chess with me, though I unfortunately will be unsuccessful. She’s not much of a chess player. (I’ve probably gotten her to play chess with me ONCE in my entire life — I was eight or nine and beat her in a four-move checkmate. Upon reflection, I probably should have let her win so she would play with me again sometime in my lifetime. Unfortunately, I hadn’t thought of that before.)

So, I just pulled out my chess board to set it up and my mom said: “Oh, my God.”
Me: “What?”
Mom: “I just think that’s hilarious. You carrying your chess set all over town. Don’t you think that’s just a bit hilarious?”
Then, as I set up the pieces, she laughed at me.

*sigh*

Rh5.

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Kokonilly

in July 17th, 2008 @ 14:39

Pan, if you don’t mind me asking, why are you at the hospital?

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Purple Panda

in July 17th, 2008 @ 14:43

462 (Kokonilly): I just finished volunteering at the Children’s Hospital and then I walked over here to visit my mom in another hospital.

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Kokonilly

in July 17th, 2008 @ 14:45

463 – Do you mind if I ask why your mom is in the hospital?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 17th, 2008 @ 21:07

Hi, Pan! I’m sorry that I wasn’t able to play while you were at the hospital, but work kept me busy all day, and I’ve just finished supper. Black very boringly moves the King back to e7 (45. … e7).

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Purple Panda

in July 17th, 2008 @ 21:46

464 (Kokonilly): She’s getting a dendritic cell vaccine. Being a “lab rat,” as she calls it.

465 (Robert): No problem! Dinner at 10:00 at night? You must have had a lot of work. *sends happy work-energy-happiness waves*

I REALLY don’t trust my brain at this hour — I’ll almost certainly miss something if I move, so I’ll do it first thing tomorrow morning.

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Purple Panda

in July 18th, 2008 @ 07:00

g4.

I won’t be away nearly as long today, and I might even be able to stop at the library at around 2:00 to check the game.

Oh, there goes my library addiction again. Though, it wouldn’t be about books!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 18th, 2008 @ 08:51

46. … Rd6

It’s a good thing we both like Rooks: I have a hunch they’re going to be very busy.

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Purple Panda

in July 18th, 2008 @ 18:36

Actually, I think I might like it if you didn’t like your Rook. In fact, if you HATED your Rook, you might want to move it somewhere like, say, d5. That would be really fantastic, in my opinion. Though, I suppose, if you hated it that much, it would be long gone by now.

Rd5.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 18th, 2008 @ 18:44

Robert, May I suggest b5?

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iÅ¹âˆšÒ²! (411 piepoints 47 brain points)

in July 18th, 2008 @ 18:45

Rooks are one of the most powerful pieces on the board to win an endgame. ♥ Rooks and Queens.

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Purple Panda

in July 18th, 2008 @ 19:01

470 (TMFA): What’s the advantage in that move?

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 18th, 2008 @ 19:05

472- I’m not telling you that.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 18th, 2008 @ 20:13

47. … Re6

(Sorry, TMFA: I think I’ll stick with the Rook for a while.)

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 18th, 2008 @ 20:18

Pawn have so little REpect!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 18th, 2008 @ 20:31

I have the utmost respect for Pawns. That’s why I’m reluctant to hurl them to instant doom.

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 18th, 2008 @ 20:50

I’m talking in general. there REALLY importent in the end game, but most get captured in the start.

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Purple Panda

in July 19th, 2008 @ 13:41

Robert-

We’re on our way to Michigan now, so I won’t be able to take my turn until either late tonight or tomorrow morning — sorry!

(We’ve been packing all morning and now I’m currently stealing internet from my dad’s work while he’s gathering together some things for the trip.)

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 19th, 2008 @ 14:00

PP,

It doesn’t matter. Have a good trip!

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Purple Panda

in July 20th, 2008 @ 08:22

Kf3.

We arrived last night around 1:00 am, at which point I decided my brain was in no shape to think, let alone find a place on the porch where we could use the library’s internet. The drive took a lot longer than we expected, but rain + night + construction = slow driving.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 20th, 2008 @ 11:08

Hi, Pan! You’re finding all the right moves. In positions like this, the player with the weaker position (in this case, Black) keeps probing for weaknesses in hopes that the other player will get impatient and try to do something aggressive before the weaknesses are fixed. But you’ve shown admirable patience.

48. … Rh6

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 20th, 2008 @ 11:18

What will Pan do?

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 20th, 2008 @ 11:25

Well, one thing she has to avoid doing is repeating moves too many times. If the same position occurs three times, then Black can claim a draw. Under current conditions, any rational Black player would be quite happy with a drawn game.

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Purple Panda

in July 20th, 2008 @ 17:04

Rh5.

I’m usually good in defensive games, though sometimes I can make a really careless move, which is what I’m worried about. It’s fun to play this way, because then I can play out the game on my own chessboard, which isn’t an option in a non-virtual game while the other person is playing on the same board.

Also, the chess board at this house is flamablamablous. Contrary to our cheap plastic set at home, this one is made from wood and it’s really pretty and happy and fun to play with. The pieces actually have weight, which makes everything so much better. (As in, I don’t have to hold them down in the wind.)

I would be really sad with a drawn game. I would rather lose than have a draw, just because it’s fun to continue to think about the game to the bitter end. That is, if we’re not playing in a tournament or anything.

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Random Kokopelli_97

in July 20th, 2008 @ 17:14

I don’t get it…

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earthgirl and eria and the Totally Random Pie Vendor of the 235pie points

in July 20th, 2008 @ 17:21

*sigh* this is a bit boring, no offense PP! you’r doing GREAT!!! I thik I will have to get my dad or sister to play me. oh well

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 20th, 2008 @ 17:29

Robert, move!

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Purple Panda

in July 20th, 2008 @ 18:06

TMFA: What’s the hurry?

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Random Kokopelli_97

in July 20th, 2008 @ 18:09

Will someone explain this to me?

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 20th, 2008 @ 18:21

488- I want game2!
489- It’s a game of chess.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 20th, 2008 @ 22:40

Black takes White’s Rook (49. … Rxh5).

(Sorry about the delay. I was on my Treo earlier in the evening and couldn’t see the “board.”)

I could have kept the Rooks dancing around for a while, but I was getting a little tired of their sparring. The Pawn-and-Bishop ending will be tough for Black, but it will be good practice for Purple Panda.

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Midnight Fiddler (she of the 2 spdzk and 500 PiePoints)

in July 20th, 2008 @ 23:13

8~ Craww should be a rook, since he’s a crow, heavens!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 20th, 2008 @ 23:24

(492) Good point!

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The Man For Aeiou

in July 21st, 2008 @ 00:15

uh-oh, Robert!

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Purple Panda

in July 21st, 2008 @ 08:01

How do you notate a pawn capture? Pxh5? xh5? Pawn captures Black’s Rook on h5.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 21st, 2008 @ 09:21

Black King to e6 (50. … Ke6).

From here on, it should be a fairly straightforward mopping-up operation for White — but you never know.

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Purple Panda

in July 21st, 2008 @ 14:52

e4.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 21st, 2008 @ 15:09

51. … Kf6

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Purple Panda

in July 21st, 2008 @ 18:34

Kg4.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 21st, 2008 @ 19:51

52. … Bh6

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Purple Panda

in July 22nd, 2008 @ 11:38

f5.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 22nd, 2008 @ 11:54

53. … Ke5

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Purple Panda

in July 22nd, 2008 @ 13:54

Kf3.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 22nd, 2008 @ 22:41

54. … Bc1

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Purple Panda

in July 23rd, 2008 @ 21:45

Robert, I commend you on your ability to play chess late at night. My brain just turns to mush after 9:30/10:00.

Sorry for taking so long with my move — I’ve had a busy day and am trying to decide between two moves. And, indecisive as I am, it’s taken awhile. But fear not! I shall dream about it all night and post again in the morning.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 23rd, 2008 @ 21:49

That’s fine, Pan — take your time. It’s a tricky position for White, suddenly.

At some point we might want to backtrack to White’s 53rd move, or earlier, and explore other possibilities. It’s been very interesting.

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Purple Panda

in July 24th, 2008 @ 19:40

Kg4.

Backtracking sounds like a great idea — it’s always fun to explore other possibilities.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 24th, 2008 @ 21:54

55. … Kxe4

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Purple Panda

in July 25th, 2008 @ 14:39

It does not look good for White. I’ve been playing through all of the possibilities and, in the words of my dad, “it looks pretty bleak.” *sigh*

f6.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 25th, 2008 @ 14:47

56. … Bh6.

Yes, letting Black’s King in was a mistake. As I said, we can go back and see where White went wrong and find better moves.

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Purple Panda

in July 27th, 2008 @ 18:48

f7.

It still doesn’t look good. But, analyzing the game in the end should be fun!

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 27th, 2008 @ 19:33

57. … Ke5

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Purple Panda

in July 29th, 2008 @ 14:56

f8Q.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in July 29th, 2008 @ 15:36

58. … Bxf8

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Purple Panda

in August 11th, 2008 @ 18:54

Kg5.

This is quite a depressing game. For White, at least.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in August 11th, 2008 @ 22:23

Yes, I’m afraid White is doomed. I don’t think we need to play that variation any further.

Where do you think things went wrong? I think there are a few points at which White could have made stronger moves. 37. Rh7+ might have worked better. Or 38. Kf3. With three strong Pawns on the King side and doubled Rooks on the h file, I don’t see why White should try to switch the action to the Queen side. Marching those Pawns down the board was the straightforward course, with the Rooks and King helping.

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Purple Panda

in August 12th, 2008 @ 05:53

My dad and I played out the game in many different variations last night, and the best-case-scenario for White was that White had just a King, and Black had a King and a Queen. The worst was White had a King and Black had a King, Queen, and Bishop.

37. g3 was the first move I ever made in the game. So I doomed it from the beginning? *headdesk*

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in August 12th, 2008 @ 06:42

I’m just looking at possibilities. White’s 37th move was a tricky one, and it was easy to go wrong.

It’s good that you and your father stay up analyzing positions. That can help your game a lot. In this case, Black can trade the Bishop for the h Pawn and send the King over to mop up White’s Queenside Pawns. There’s not much Black can do.

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Purple Panda

in August 12th, 2008 @ 06:52

After White’s King takes Black’s Bishop, it follows Black’s King over to take Pawns, but if Black plays carefully, it will end up with a Queen. At least, that’s how it ended up last night.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in August 12th, 2008 @ 06:56

Yes. One extra Pawn is all it takes.

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Purple Panda

in August 12th, 2008 @ 07:09

It was the Pawn currently on c5. White’s King slowly moves through Black’s Pawns, and Black’s King has already taken the Pawns on c4 and c2, clearing the path for Mr. c5.

After that, White’s King is looking at many running-away-from-Black moves. At least he’ll get some exercise before his ultimate death. Wait, no! I have a better idea. While being chased around by Black’s King and Queen, White’s King shouts: “Ooh, look! A bird!” to distract Black, then he runs away and lives happily ever after. I like that ending much better.

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Robert Coontz (Administrator)

in August 12th, 2008 @ 09:15

What about 51. Ke4? I think White’s King needs to get in front of those Pawns and eventually over to the Queen side. (Notice how Black’s King made a beeline for the center right after the exchange of Rooks.)

I think the white King throws away his crown, scrunches himself down, and disguises himself as a Pawn. Black eventually gets tired of looking for him, and he lives out his life in peace as a humble but happy peasant-soldier.

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Purple Panda

in August 13th, 2008 @ 06:39

Yes, I think I spent too much time trying to work with the Kingside Pawns, and that time probably would have been better spent on the other side. Black’s Bishop and King immediately made it difficult to get to the other side of the board, forcing White into a weaker position.

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Evolution pie

in January 10th, 2009 @ 18:06

#24 you can’t take or kill a king you can “attack” it but not not take it

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