The Lord of the Rings & Related texts
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Woo hoooooooo, First post. I love LOTR, and related texts
is this the first post???
ha! mrahr!
…um, i havent relly read any of the books, but i saw the first 2 movies, and the ents were relly cool…
*prepares to be assailed w/ pies*
Must addmit *cringes* that I haven’t read the books either. (does the hobit count? Hope so. But then again, cherry pie does taste mighty fine on a warm spring day.) But the movies were fabulouso. Excelente, mucho good. and I don’t take spanish as an elective. Anyways, one of the two brothers, sam, or the other one, plays in lost, the TV show. He’s my favorite, besides his brother. Specialy with the trees.
*padds off to the library, where he looks frantically for the books, since pying, no matter how delicious the taste, is a hassle, and he would rather not have to take a shower for nothing.*
whaaaaaaaaa — !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its MY thread and i dont even get first post????? what is wrong with the world?????????
Aragorn SOOO shouldve taken Eowyn instead of Arwen. Eowyn actuallly had character and could possibly help him rule, whereas Arwen would probably moon around all day and get in the way. Granted, Arwen did give up immortaliy, but Eowyn killed the Witch-King of Angband, or whatever his name is, which is so much cooler. die Arwen die!!!!!!
yeah!!
where can i get the books?
Go to the library or book store…..
I really like the movies and the books. I think they did a good job with the movies.
I find you rather hard to understand, Kingy Geroge the whatever. What do you mean, “take a shower for nothing”? Do you usually get paid or what? As for Yoda: at the book shop. Where did you think? What, did you think it was a black market item?
I mean that I’d have to take a shower to get the sticky gooey slimy delicious stuff off of me. It’s a waste of water. And no, I don’t get paid.
And excuse me, but kings should NEVER be called Kingy geroge. It’s KING GEORGE. the MMMXXLIII. Not what ever. My great Ancestors would smite you with my HUMUNNNNNNNNNNgo army.
*Raises nose, and pouts.* Sorry, but he’s kinda touchy.
the movies were ok, wish they hadn’t cut out tom bombadil, he was really cool. I like the hobbit more than the trilogy, which was kinda dark. #5- TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!
Sigh.
First bit.
Eowyn would never had been happy with Aragorn because
1: She never truly loved him, just was infautuated like so many middle aged women
and
2: FaramirxEowyn is OTP.
That settled, the said brother is in fact Dominic Monahagn( whether or not that was spelled right), who I believe plays Charlie in Lost, and Merry in the movies. I assume you meant Pippin, who is in fact, his cousin. Everyone loves Billy Boyd.
Ents, kids, ents. Hooom.
Eowyn is awesome, and Aragorn doesn’t deserve her. I loved the bit where she kills the evil Witch-King.
Evil Witch-King: No man can kill me!
Eowyn: (pulls off helmet to reveal long flowing hair) I am no man! (stabs EW-K)
Loved it!
the movies are awesome. also the books are awesome. i’m done now
i agree with axa
i read half the series (as in the hobbit and the fellowship). i saw the first movie and hated it.
*Takes deep breath and tries to relax”
*fails”
Merry and Pippin arent brothers!!!! *Launches cherry and golfball pies at King George* . No, just kidding. Its easy to think that if you havent read the books.
He ‘s called Witch King of Angmar!!! Not Angband!!
Aragorn should not have gone with Eowyn! He and Arwen were truly in love, and Eowyn is way better matched with Faramir. If Arwen seemed like a wimp i was she was played by Liv Tyler in the moves (though I didnt think she did such a bad job of it).
Sorry.
Im very touchy when it comes to Lord of the Rings.
*Goes off to find therapist*
CooL! I liked The Hobbit best.
Eowyn. Rocks. That is all.
I agree w/ jadestone. The ones after the hobbit were kind of hard to get into.
HOW DARE ANY OF YOU NOT READ THE BOOKS AND POST ON THIS THREAD ????????????????????????????????????????????
i SHAL CALL UPON MY ARMIES OF EVIL WERE-SQUUIRLS TO SMITE YOU ALL!!!!!!!! *Slap Heard* Oh sorry about that. *Goes to seek theropy*
Its nice to know that Im not not the only Lord of the Rings fanatic who needs therapy. Wait… um, I take that back. Its kind of scary that there are Lord of the Rings fanatics who needs therapy, and kind of scarier that Im one of them.
Yes, I will admit it is pretty to get started on The Fellowship, but once you get to the Tom Bombadil part, its AWESOME!!!!
The Hobbit rocks though.
I love LOTR!
I also loved the movies, but there were some problems:
a) they left out Tom Bombadil
b) they made Entwash about two seconds long
c) Aragorn was too nice
d) THEY CUT OUT ARWEN’S BROTHER!!!! They made Arwen cooler than Eowyn, wich is not right! Eowyn was much cooler, and Arwen was an ijit in the books!
e) it took Gollum about 30 minutes to chuck the ring in the lava, and then another 15 for it to sink. Get on with, Gollum!
But otherwise, the movies were amazing, almost as good as the books themselves!
Eowyn (my mother calls her the horse-chick) and Faramir were my favorites. Also Samwise and Galadriel. But Tolkein evidently was not a feminist. At the end of The Return of the King, Eowyn ‘reforms’ and becomes a healer, saying that a life of war is evil for a woman. Yurgh!
They cut Quickbeam and all the fluffy Eowyn/Faramir shipping in the movies! Not to mention Tom Bombadil, any sense of Elven dignity, Gimli/Pippin/Merry/Ents as anything but comic relief, most of the incredibly long and confusing backstory, and Fatty Bolger.
Actually, I love the movies. Really. However, that whole ‘Arwen’s fate is now tied to the fate of the Ring’ bit was a major “Huh?”
Where, one feels compelled to ask, did that come from? Elrond decided to make up a little motivational play for lazy ol’ Aragorn?
And the Elves coming to Helm’s Deep was nothing short of ridiculous. Not to mention pointless.
And they make Boromir seem, rather than a nice honorable guy who’s a bit misguided by the Ring, into this evil, blustering maniac who constantly has to be put in his place by perfect Aragorn. I really don’t like the movie Aragorn. I want to smack him if the face with a Balrog-dropping pie.
I really do like the movies, though.
i for one, have actually read the hobbit AND the LTR Trilogy. so shame on you, you shameful little shamed ones who have only watched the movies (which by the way rule)
anyway im glad they left Tom Bombadil out. he was really crazy with his sucky poetic way of talking and weird clothes. and he isnt a very in-depth character. and i love the battle at helms deep. its my favorite part of the books and movies
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What do you mean “he isnt a very in-depth character” He IS An Angel !! I mean does anyone ever bother to read the Simerilian??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *Slap* Oh sorry again *goes to seek better theripest*
_> In my shining days of LotR/Tolkien geekdom, I read every one of his books I could find. I highly recommend both Unfinished Tales and The Silmarillion, and three of his non-LotR books are amazing as well: Farmer Giles of Ham, Smith of Wooton Minor (or is it major? I honestly don’t remember…) and Roverandom, which are all equally squee-worthy.
Movies. Movies…..
Three words: Faramir, Glorfindel, Tom Bombadil.
But I really do love them. I do tend to make fun of them quite a bit when I’m watching them though.
To 22: if you get the extended version of the third movie, you’ll see bit more Eowyn/Faramir shipping. -shrug- I agree though, I was really mad when I saw it in theatres. -_-;
I have the extended version of all three movies. They are really cool……but long
26- Yeah, I saw that. There still wasn’t enough.
And Glorfindel pwns. Stupid Arwen had to steal his part…
I used to be the uber-Ringer and read all of J.R.R. Tolkien’s work, even though the LOTR quartet was really the only one that was truly readable. I still am a Ringer, just not so uber-ultra about the whole shebang. I nearly cried through The Silmarillion. It was unbeliebably uninteresting, but I read it anyway and know all the background behind the characters. Don’t yell at me, I have earned my Tolkienite stripes several times over.
I’ve seen the movies numerous times. The Ents were OK, Tom Bombadil and his wife the River-Daughter whose name I can never remember should have been in there, and we should have spent more time with the dwarves because they’re supposed to be comedic relief and they didn’t really work that way, which was sad. Anyway, most people were all “Squee!” as Lyra put it (EYP, is your name from the Philip Pullman books? “His Dark Materials” trilogy, to be exact? He’s a great atheist role model for me. But I digress) over Orlando Bloom, which was a shame, because Legolas really shouldn’t have been so Gary Stu-ish. And Gimli was very well done, but we don’t get any more light on the issue of whether female dwarves have beards in LOTR (Terry Pratchett is a different cheesecake entirely) and elves’ immortality in the movies. We have to go look that up in the rest of Tolkien’s works. Oh phooey.
The only person I really don’t like in LOTR is Arwen. She’s just so wimpy and elfin. I mean, honestly. You can be an elf and still be a perfectly likeable character, but the big neon blinking sign screaming “ELF! ELF! ELF-MAID!” over the girl’s head has got to go at the nearest opportunity. I also love LOTR spoofs.
I like The Hobbit better than the LOTR trilogy. I liked Bilbo more than Frodo, even though he started to go a little crazy over the ring. Wouldn’t it be awesome if they made The Hobbit into a movie?
i got this Tolkien scrapbook thing for christmas last year and it had this story about a guy who was totally obsessed with all things Middle-Earth and he was going on about how they mutilated the covers of all the books with Robin-Hood-esque people and stuff. it was very hilarious.
i read this books a long time ago so i really dont remember what happened in them. also i swear to god tolkien was paid by the word. even so, the trilogy wasn’t half as bad as the Silmarillion which i took like three years to read because at first i was so bored i just quit. Middle-Earth still totally rocks though.
i wanna learn elvish!!!!!!
I think that they are? Maybe not.
I was dissapointed to no end at how LITTLE of the Houses of Healing were covered. Even in the extended version, they got about a second. That was my favorite part in the books. Grr. And yet Mr. Elfstone gets about five hours with his elf woman thing. >.>
Oh, to be a neglected shipper.
I will now seek therapy as well. -flounces off-
ditto number 27
did any of you guys also wish that in return of the king they put in the scouring of the shire?
that was the part when the hobbits rebuild the shire and defeat saruman-i really wish they hadn’t cut that out
29: Yes, I’m a huge fan of His Dark Materials despite the fact that I am a Christian. They are absolutely brilliant.
-laughs- Terry Pratchett is indeed a whole other cheesecake. Poor Cheery…she gets along alright in the end though. What a brave soul.
I’m totally with you on Arwen. I almost cried when I saw that Glorfindel had been replaces by some mystical glowing elf-chick.
As for Gimli…in the second movie, anyway, he was a bit too “comic-relief dwarf” for me. xP
And Legolas…ah, my fifth-grade folly. He gets on my nerves, but he’s really fun to make fun of so I kind of like him. -poses- Look at my beautiful golden hair, blowing in the wind! I also skateboard down stairways and am quite a talented elephant-rider! And I like long walks on the beach! And sunrises! LOVE MEH!
…-coughs-
Anyway. Not bitter at all about that.
-sigh- I’m sorry, I was reading my post over and I really have to correct this. “They” in the second line means the His Dark Materials series, NOT Christians.
…sorry GAPAs. -bows deeply-
ive been trying to read the sillmarillion for an ice age and a day. So totaly boring. I’ve also read (compleatly) The Hobbit, all of the LOTRs.
There is this realy cool game called The Battle for Wesnoth that is very much like LOTR but does’t have ents.
Wesnoth comes with linux distrubutions. I don’t know if there are versions that come for Windows.
25- you were correnct it is Smith of Wooten Minor, but in the actual book there is a mention of Wooten major. I never read the unfinished Tales becuase i sort of like not knowing everything about LOTR… the fact that theres this whole secondary world that you dont know everything about almost makes it seem more real.
I kind of wish there had been the scouring of the Shire in the movies, but on the other hand it might have been a major anti-climax. It worked in the books, but Im not so sure it would have in the movies.
I like the movies a lot, but there were some things I objectedd to. To name one that hasnt already been mentioned, Denethor. I though the actor was good, but the way they presented his character wasnt. In the books, he wasnt such a nasty guy originally, and he wasnt always horrible to Faramir (though he still didnt favor him), it was only after he lost Boromir and despaired that he was truly horrible. At least, that was they way I interepreted the books. But if you watch the extended edition theres this whole bit about him hating Faramir even before Borimir went to Elrond’s council, and I objected to that.
Whos up for requesting a Philip Pullman thread?
w00t! I’m all for a Philip Pullman thread!
And that’s something I forgot! Make that two things…yes, Denethor and the Scouring of the Shire…wow…
I was so angry at the way Denethor died, in the book he had dignity. He didn’t “fall into the flames and then jump of a cliff-y thing.” Argh. That annoyed me so much.
And the Scouring was always such vindication for me! RotK the movie had 7 potential endings (yes, I counted) which probably added up to more than enough time to stick something in about that. -sigh- Oh, the agony. I loved that little bit of the book…;_;
I wished that the Shire had been tainted in the movie. It gives the entire shebang more message. You know? I will look into acquiring Wesnoth for my Linux computer-as it happens, the Ents are one of my favorite Middle-Earth sentient races-but in the meantime I have an Alastair Reynolds to read. Chasm City, which a friend recommended as (his words) “totally sweet. Frood.” and pushed upon my not-exactly-unwilling pseudopodia.
GASP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are people here who havent read the books?!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!??!!?!?!?!??!?!?!?? (i have read each book including the hobbit and seen all the movies twice)
i must now attack you with my evil cheese ninjas and suscept you to the Lego LOTR movie me and my friend are making!!!!
Then ill take over the world MWAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!
*slap* HAHAHAHHAHAHHA *slap* HHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
* BANG CRASH SLAM * ohhhhhhhhhhhh my head ha….. ha….. ha….. *SMACk* no…. must… send… cheese…
ninjas…… * BANG * *goes to er room* * goes to therapy *
Yeah, the tainting of the Shire made it clear that, just because Sauron was dead, it didn’t mean that everything would be automatically peachy. But I guess it would make the movie lose momentum.
yessssss musssst have philip pullman thread so i can rant about how he messed up the end of his dark materials and ruined sally lockhart
pseudopodia?
“Flowing extensions of a cell; “fake feet”.” (according to google)
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Please explain
Why do so many people say Legolas is hot? Orlando bloom’s SUCH a prettyboy. HE UGLY
Why no Star wars Thread?
He is ugly. I like him in the movies, (or, I should probably say that I lik ethe movies that he is IN)
a star wars thread would be nice.
Has anyone here seen back to the future?
Is anyone here in Scouts?
violet fire #20
they have made an animated hobbit and have plans to make a movie
Orlando Bloom hascompletely ruined LOTR fanfiction. Stupid fangirls who’ve seen the movies maybe once and never read the books come on to FF.net and write self-insert Mary Sues where a completely OOC Legolas falls in love with a random teenager who somehow fell into Middle-Earth. I hate it. Naturally, I’m writing a parody of that type of crappy fanfic.
We need a Lost In Space thread. Or maybe just a Science Fiction thread. Yes, that would do nicely.
If there’s a Hobbit movie, my major concern is how ‘cute’ the dwarves are. They should be likable and friendly, but still warriors and not cutesy. And the Mirkwood elves should be sufficiently Elvish. And a slightly younger Gandy would be appreciated greatly.
The animated one is really stupid.
ANIMATED?????????????????????????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD????????????????????????
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FIRST VIDEO GAMES AND NOW THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A King Arthur thread would be nice if i wasnt the only one here who appears to profess an interest in said legend.
Orlando Bloom gets on my nerves in LotR. But he’s still one of my favorite characters, just because his whole “look at me and my perfect blonde hair and please try to ignore my nonexistant facial expressions” shtick was so unintentionally hilarious.
I have read “The Hobbit”, FotR (so long ago I don’t even remember), and the first bit of TTT. I swear, Tolkien was just not a good writer. At least, not from my perspective. He described everything in detail, but I felt like I was watching a cartoon. The characters, the reactions, the whole plots seemed cartoonish. But when he was actually doing something other than describe the trees, it was interesting.
the supreme lord of darkness has decided to endorse the philup pullman thread.
yeah the animated one is pretty stupid
who is phillip pullman????/
actually i think king arthur? general history about middle ages is cool
we should request a king arthur thread
GAPA! You have made me saaaaad.
Been waiting for a Lotr thread since i came on…and then up it comes while i’m in bay city, waving hi to the governor and beauty contest winners and various politicians and army peoples and leprachauns however you spell that…
Ah well.
I am obsessed with a capital UB! I’ve read the hobbit and the lotr books countless times, sil three times, unfinished tales twice, and the books of lost tales 1+2. I can write dwarvish and know several random elvish phrases, and have “The Doors of Durin, Lord of Moria, Speak friend and enter” on my door. (in runes of course) i have 5 of those replica rings off bookmarks. I’ve seen all the extended movie editions now, and have the regular versions, and nobody ever plays me at trivia anymore.
That about sums it up. Calo anor na ven. Y’all should know that one, it was in muse.
Erm – King Arthur is pretty much legend rather than history. Likewise Robin Hood. But they’re good tales. Thomas Malory’s “Morte d’Arthur” (the main source for the King Arthur legend) is available on the Web in the original medieval English and in modern spelling if anyone wants to plough through it. Start at the Wikipedia entry and follow the links :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Morte_d'Arthur
I’m not going to criticise people for seeing the LOTR films without reading the books. But please understand what you’re actually watching. They’re entirely new works of fiction, based on the PLOT of Lord of the Rings. You may love or hate the books, but they’re considered great (well, significant at least) because of the way they’re written. What’s important about them is the language, not the plot. It’s all in those descriptions, and the pictures they conjure up in the mind of the reader. Tolkien was a great writer, but very little of the real essence of his writing can ever be transcirbed onto the screen. Watch the films, and everyone sees the same Middle Earth. Read the books, and you allow Tolkien to create your very own Middle Earth in your head. It might not be the same as anyone else’s Middle Earth, and your Legolas might not resemble your mate’s Legolas, but they mean so much more than the prescribed ones in the films.
Having said that, I have to admire the director. Those films got as close to the books as any film could. I haven’t seen them all, but what I saw was impressive. The Nazgul were nowhere near scary enough, and as for the Balrog – still, if I were directing, they probably wouldn’t let kids see it.
The Silmarillion is a master work. Sure, some of it’s boring. Just the way bits of the Bible are, and for the same reason. But the sheer obsessive mental effort needed to create a self-consistent history of a world, in detail, over several thousand years, complete with two or three languages, is pretty staggering. And his insights into human character (and elf, and dwarf, and hobbit) are quite remarkable. Plough on!
About King Arthur…The Once And Future King is by far the best version. It makes the characters human, which is an accomplishment, but also manages to be extremely funny and imaginative. Squee-worthy indeed.
Something just came to me. I was thinking about the Tom Bombadil section in The Fellowship of the Ring, and how I didn’t mind that they’d left it out of the movie. TB doesn’t advance the plot, and besides, where on Earth would they have found an actor who could play him?
Then I thought, “Paul Baker could play Tom Bombadil. He practically is Tom Bombadil.”
Then I thought, “‘Practically’?!”
Then chills ran down my spine.
Consider: First name has one syllable; last name starts with B. Jolly. Jovial. Multitalented. Musical. Agelessly enthusiastic, but familiar with things that happened centuries ago. Lives in the northwestern part of a Europe-like landmass. Why, even “King’s Swinford” sounds like “Withywindle,” if you allow for distortions over thousands of Fourth Age years. It’s true that Paul shows no sign of Tom’s rhythmic speech habits; he doesn’t log on with, “Ho, merry Musebloggers, what be you a-thinking? Paul’s come bearing news, which will entertain you.” But Tom might not have come across that way by keyboard, either.
I suspect our friend PB&J may know more about The Lord of the Rings than he lets on.
If you watch the extras on the extended edition of The Fellowship, that is the exact reason P. Jackson gives for not including Tom Bombadil. We love him, but he doesnt advance the plot of the books.
Also, with the movies having to cram all that drama in to a short amount of time, the tension created by the evil presence of the ring has to be completely uniteruppted in order for it to seem properly sinister and scary. But if you all the sudden introduce a character like Tom, who the ring has no power over, and who happily can happily spin it around his finger with out so much as flickering, you completely kill any power the rings has. Its the same thing with Faramir. They couldnt just spend the whole first movie telling us how easily the hearts of men are corrupted and then just have a man immune to it, so they had to change Faramir’s charcter. These characters are ones who work in the book, but cant be transferred onto the screen and still make it a good story, so they had to be altered a bit.
I like Tolkien’s style of writing because it doesnt follow the conventional outlines of novels. You hardly ever actually meet the bad guy, there are a billion back stories that you dont know the plot of (some people find this irritating but I thinkit makes it more intersting) and there are multiple endings. While many people would consider these traits of bad writing, I think they are the kinds of things that make it such a unique and interestig story. He broke a lot of rules, but he made it work.
God that was long winded, sorry….
The extended version of the movies makes it clear that Faramir didn’t want the ring for its own sake; he hoped to win his father’s love by succeeding where Boromir had failed. He’s much more sympathetic once that becomes clear.
I’ve sometimes thought that it’s as if the books are about the War of the Ring as humans and hobbits told the story later, while the movies show the Elves’ point of view. That’s why Men look so much darker in the movies. (Note that I said “as if”; I don’t think that’s what the filmmakers had in mind.)
Hm, that’s true. I don’t mind if the Men look a bit dark, but the innacurracy (and the ridiculousness of how I spelled that. [is ridiculousness even a word?]) Anyway, that does explain things. There’s an awful lot of focus on Arwen moping around in the movie. And ye gods, I-ar-BLEH-she was not the one who made Elrond forge the sword!
-sighs- Anyway, good explanation.
-another sigh- I’m sorry everyone. It’s obvious that I wrote that post while sleepwalking. Just…um…pretend grammar and spelling don’t exist while reading it, please. kthnx.
Perhaps
Paul Baker=Tom B.???
Maybe, but who is J?
Paul B=PB&J
J = jelly, as in the sandwich.
This is very scary.
I did a concert in Middlewich a couple of days ago. (What do you mean, where’s Middlewich? It’s in the middle of – oh, some Wich or other.
Anyway, once we’d cowed the audience into submission with shawms, I began in my usual manner with something like :
“Hail, good fellowes! Hail, Masters and Mistresses! I bid you all welcome to this most mighty Hall wherin nowe we all sit. Lo, you see before you two fyne, gallant and jovial Minstrels, come forth this nighte to playe you all maner of sundry music as may be to youre grete delighte…….”
It’s not exactly rhythmic, but it’s archaic and supiciously Bombadilesque.
I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF BEING TOM BOMBADIL.
But I’m going to have to re-read that bit of LOTR to make sure. Maybe I arise in my sleep and dance among the flowers. Maybe Kingswinford IS Withywindle. We don’t have any withies though. Or do we? Come to think of it, I’ve never looked. Oh, it’s all too disturbing. I’m going to make a cup of tea.
HAHA! That is amazing, and when i think about it, oh so true.
Do you believe in reincarnation?
(don’t answer that. Rhetorical q. Just think…thiiiiiink…ooooh)
does bombadil drink lots of tea??
I think Bombadil drinks hearty draughts from the pure and sparkling rivulets that wind like silver veins through the meadows of Withywindle. The sparkling rivulets of Kingswinford are altogether less savoury. Much better to use a tap and fill a kettle from it.
paul baker i would like to say the qustion mark was ment to be a slash so reading as follows: i think king arthur/general history of medival ages is interesting. And there was a king arthur but yes those tales are mostly legend and just so you know wikipedia is not very reliable. anyone including you or me can post an article in wikipedia. Ever wonder why it says free encyclopedia?
It says free encyclopedia because you don’t have to pay for it. Most online encyclopedias you need to pay for/subscribe to.
Ah, wikipedia. I love spamming them. I wonder why they hate me? Do you think there’s some connection? Ah well. I’ve been very careful not to get blocked though…i walk the line *sings* yes i saw that at my grandma’s house. Nothing to do with Lotr, but i have limited time anyway. Good movie. They didn’t sing man in black though, i was so mad. grrr. I just got back from cup o joe where we poured out our troubles to a sympathetic audience. well, partly sympathetic. Ok we weren’t sympathetic to each other at all. But whatever. Anyhoo, i have a break in the cleaning then. This really should be on the monthly thread. Whoops.
maybe the GAPA will move it? Or perhaps not. Mom has gone insane, and is cleaning like a madwoman and making us do same. Except, of course, in the cases of lb and dad, who clean rather like madmen. Hmm. Well. To relate this somewhat, in the quite probable event that the GAPA doesn’t move this, Lotr rocks. Go Lotr.
[Ebeth — If you’ll copy it into a new form and send it to the right thread, I’ll delete this one. –Robert]
[Too late! It’s stuck here now.]
ARE YOU SECRETLY TOM BOMBADIL? TAKE OUR QUIZ AND FIND OUT!
Do you speak in an annoyingly musical or rhythmic fashion?
Do you like to wear yellow hats?
Are you jolly, even when your fovorite shawm’s been run over by a Hummer or something equally tragic?
Did you pull a random woman out of a river and marry her?
Do animals have a strange fascination with you?
Did you name your horse/dog/cat/hot pink bunny/favorite shawm Fatty Lumpkin?
Does it not mind?
Do you enjoy gathering water-lilies for your wife, who you pulled out of a river?
Does your home’s name sound like ‘Withywindle’ if you run it together enough?
Can you get a tree to let go of a hobbit?
Do shiny objects have no hold over you whatsoever?
Well, Mr. Bakerdil/Bombaker, there you have it. ARE you Tom Bombadil?
Paul, dont tell me that you got an A on that quiz.
Right???
is supreme ruler of this thread
now evvvvvrybody should know me if not go on Who’s Here
virtual chokilt to anyone who gets it without peeking
76:
Yes.
No.
Yes.
EXCUSE ME?!? I’m not married!
I wish.
No. But parakeets don’t exactly fit that name. Nor do ferrets.
Yes! Sort of.
Never tried.
No way! I love shiny!
Once durring school, someone was talking to me, and I saw somthing flash a the corner of my eye, and i was all like, “Sorry, i have to go now, I see somthing shiney.” aANd followd the sparkly object which turned ou to be someones droped purse. How dissapoining.
Though I’m sure the person who dropped it was not thinking how dissapointing it was. Did she give you anything in return? like a ring? For saving her purse?
Right, here goes.
> Do you speak in an annoyingly musical or rhythmic fashion?
Sometimes. Mostly I’m just annoying.
> Do you like to wear yellow hats?
Yep. And red hats. And straw hats. And deerstalkers and flat caps and tam o’ shanters.
> Are you jolly, even when your fovorite shawm’s been run over by a Hummer or something equally tragic?
Definitely. What’s are hummers? And why are they tragic?
> Did you pull a random woman out of a river and marry her?
Not that I would admit to. You can get arrested for that sort of thing in England.
> Do animals have a strange fascination with you?
Well, dogs tend to look at me strangely. And they howl sometimes. They’re not used to humans talking to them in dog. I speak fluent dog, of course. And cat. They don’t like it either.
> Did you name your horse/dog/cat/hot pink bunny/favorite shawm Fatty Lumpkin?
Just the shawm.
> Does it not mind?
It hasn’t complained.
> Do you enjoy gathering water-lilies for your wife, who you pulled out of a river?
I deny all knowledge of the aforesaid subject. It wasn’t me. I was in Switzerland. Or Uganda.
> Does your home’s name sound like ‘Withywindle’ if you run it together enough?
Most things sound like “Withywindle” if I run them together.
> Can you get a tree to let go of a hobbit?
Oh, yes. You just have to explain things properly to the tree. They’re generally pretty obliging.
> Do shiny objects have no hold over you whatsoever?
Absolutely no hold whatever. But pretty bits of wood……
Well, that’s that. How did I do?
-ARE YOU SECRETLY TOM BOMBADIL? TAKE OUR QUIZ AND FIND OUT!
Last time I checked, I was secretly Em.
-Do you speak in an annoyingly musical or rhythmic fashion?
No.
-Do you like to wear yellow hats?
Well, I do have this really cool hat that looks like a yellow fish, but I’m not sure where it got too.
-Are you jolly, even when your fovorite shawm’s been run over by a Hummer or something equally tragic?
No. Mostly I’m depressed.
-Did you pull a random woman out of a river and marry her?
You mean like marry her personally, or marry her to some random guy that i also happened to pull out of the river?
-Do animals have a strange fascination with you?
Only if I have food. Although, my cat has a strange fascination with sitting on me.
-Did you name your horse/dog/cat/hot pink bunny/favorite shawm Fatty Lumpkin?
Tell you what, next one I get, I will.
-Does it not mind?
I can’t think why it would.
-Do you enjoy gathering water-lilies for your wife, who you pulled out of a river?
Where do you find water-lilies, anyways?
-Does your home’s name sound like ‘Withywindle’ if you run it together enough?
Quite frankly, no.
-Can you get a tree to let go of a hobbit?
Never tried.
-Do shiny objects have no hold over you whatsoever?
I’ve never met a shiny object who wanted to hold me.
Hmm… I must still be secretly Em.
Both Paul Baker and Tom Bombadil are on my list of people to assassinate.
A Hummer is a horrible American car, based off military trucks. You have to see one to appreciate the true horribleness. ‘Twould be tragic for one’s favourite shawm to be run over by one because it would be irrevocably crushed.
There is no doubt. You, Mr. Baker, are Tom Bombadil!
I hate hummers………..
They were made to be a military truck………they should ONLY be a military truck………..*sigh*
No. They snaped at me as if i had stolen it. Poor, poor me.
82- Very good indeed.
because of the thing with the bunnies.
Ah. I see. I had envisaged a gentleman humming to himself in a tragic manner, and running over my shawm in a fit of passion at a particularly mournful cadence. Now I am enlightened, I shall forthwith keep Fatty Lumpkin well clear of all American military or ex-military vehicles. That shouldn’t be too difficult in Withywindle – sorry, Kingswinford. Just to be perfectly safe, I shall also hide him if I hear anyone humming. They might be annoyed if I played him while they hummed, because he’s so very much louder than them, you see. I shall hum in harmony instead. Or in counterpoint. I’m not sure if anyone has tried contrapuntal humming. One could start with a couple of simple rounds by Thomas Ravenscroft, and perhaps work up to a two-part arrangement of the Kyrie from Palestrina’s Missa Papae Marcelli, or something from the Triumphs of Oriana. That would be exciting, wouldn’t it?
Bunnies, you don’t mean those Hot Pink Brittish Bunnies that PB&J has under his control, do you ?
Me:Wait I didnt do anything bad
Paul: You have given away my secret!!!!
Me: No not that, Please don’t Burn my Muse collection I will do anything!!!!
Paul: Will you put on this magic golden ring that has no effect whatsoever on me?
Me: Wait, is it magic
Paul:maybe, but you will have to find out
Me: Okay *Turns Evil*
Me: Yes Masssssssster Paul, I will comand the armiessssssssssss of bunniesssssssss
Paul: Good.
Paul And take over all of the posts
Me(EVIL) Okay.
Fie, wherefore saist thou that I sholde die for my parte in the Bunney discourse? Mine intent was but to ope up a shutter and allowe the light of Reason to shyne uppon the darkness of the Warres. Wherin, then, lyeth my faulte? Twas not I as made the Bunneys, nor yet caste e’en one on ’em uppon anie letter; but onlie set forth, as plaine as I colde, the reasons wherefore they were caste. Blame not the Herald, I pray thee, but rather cast thine arrows uppon the Prince who hath in hand the governance of the armies of thine enemy.
Master, I did not understand a word you just said.
Good: I should have known that this magic ring has no effect on Tom B
Evil:HOTPINKBRITTISHBUNNIESTAKINGOVERTHEWORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*SLAP*
EVIL:STILL EVIL. WAIT IS THE CAP-LOCK ON ? SORRY
Hey take this test to see if you are Frodo:
1:Are you short?
2:Do your friends callyou Elf, Dwarf or Hobbit?
3:Can you resist magic rings?
4:Do you have friends with hairy feet?
5:Do you know someone who can do magic?
6:Have you ever almost been trapped in a tree?
7:Have you ever been to a volcano and had a finger bitten off?
8:Have you ever talked to Elves?
Are you FRODO?
Hey take this test to see if you are Frodo:
1:Are you short?
Yes
2:Do your friends callyou Elf, Dwarf or Hobbit?
Unfortunetly
3:Can you resist magic rings?
Yes
4:Do you have friends with hairy feet?
Yes
5:Do you know someone who can do magic?
Yes
6:Have you ever been trapped in a tree?
Almost, but Paul came along
7:Have you ever been to a volcano and had a finger bitten off?
You know, typing is raelly hard with only 9 fingers …
8:Have you ever talked to Elves?
Oh yeah, they walk in the woods and I say hello and they say what a loser hobbit he is …
Are you FRODO?
Wait Yes I am Frodo Yeah Hobbits!!!!!!
Em, I hope you dont add me, Frodo to your list of people to assasinate.
Yeah me.
and paul thanks for thatthing with the tree and well M***Y and P***N
oh and i didnt see anything about your wife and the river and how you pulled her out because you were in…Oslo (yeah Oslo)
Um, did Tom Bombadil’s wife have a name? I think it’s rather sexist that she doesn’t seem to.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!
Bombadil’s wife was named Goldberry.
Thank y- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What if Frodo moved to Mordor? Then would he be known as Frodo previosly of the Shire but currently of Mordor and thinking of moving since they’s absolutly no daylight in Mordor? That’s a long name.
why would Frodo move to Mordor?????? it got destroyed by lava! also he should have closed his eyes when he threw the Ring into the crack of Mt. Doom.
How is this?
BMG (102),
After the war, real estate in Mordor was dirt cheap. Faramir and Eowyn moved to Ithilien, a sort of suburb of Mordor, but just over the mountains you could get a place three times as big for the same price. It was a good deal, despite lousy schools and no Starbucks.
I need to re-read these books.
He didn’t throw the ring! (at least not in the move…i still cant find the books)
47: BSA kind of scouts? If so, yes.
-107-
BSA stands for Boy Scouts of America
Oh and all of the Elves couldn’t pay their bank loans so there houses were liquidated and I got 10 times the lamd Ewoyn/Farmir got for the same price.
And there is a Starbucks Here!!!!!!
Actually i’d think they’d get it for free, seeing as they’re the prince and princess or whatever they are, and Ithilien used to belong to Gondor anyway…
Poor Sauron. I think he’s just misunderstood and has a bad psychologist. If only they let him go on with his therapy, it might’ve worked out…
i lllllllllllllllllooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeee related texts
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And which related texts are you speaking of?
98- TB’s wife’s name is Goldberry. I think. Or something like that.
Yea! I can finally get on here again. This weird new parental control has been blocking all kinds of stuff. Then it’ll just stop blocking all of the sudden. Of course it blocked my homepage (comcast), and some issue on nation states, so it obviously can’t be trusted. I’ve seen Back to the Future. Multiple times. Why do ask? I think the FOTR is hard to break into because it takes a while for the hobbits to develop different personalities, so at first they’re all like the same guy.
Excuse me whilst i find references.
“And the coneys he called Bunnies, whych is theyre pet name. (For children are perverse, and oft will make a pett of that which woulde make a better potage.)”
-Paul Baker, A Surfeit of Coneys
No, no, NO! TOTALLY NOT!!!! How dare ye insult my bunnies, even indirectly!
Hey take this test to see if you are Frodo:
Thank you, I will.
1:Are you short?
Quite so.
2:Do your friends callyou Elf, Dwarf or Hobbit?
No, not really.
3:Can you resist magic rings?
D’oh.
4:Do you have friends with hairy feet?
Sadly, yes.
5:Do you know someone who can do magic?
Sure, why not?
6:Have you ever almost been trapped in a tree?
No. It sounds like fun.
7:Have you ever been to a volcano and had a finger bitten off?
No. Unless I started out with eleven fingers…
8:Have you ever talked to Elves?
Of course.
Are you FRODO?
No, I’m Em, thanks very much. And I’d much rather be Sam, anyway.
I skipped to the last question, and found out I wasn’t frodo, and then I did the rest of the questions for fun.
What? you skiped to the last question!!!!!!! u stink you you george
waaaah!!! i have absolutely no metaphysical connection to any LOTR character whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
must see therapist now.
must find Elvish name. How do you say “crazy maiden”?
191
ooo i know a good theripest
Paul Baker = Tom Bombadil? I’d have to see a picture. Does anyone know a good website/whatever for getting your name translated to Elvish?
That would be cool…finding your elvish name..haven’t heard of any
Ohhh…..search “elvish name translation” on Google, and you’ll find a good one.
im gonna do that rite now!!!!
yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! the anonymous elf is no longer anonymous!!!!!
1:Are you short?
Yes.
2:Do your friends call you Elf, Dwarf or Hobbit?
They call me the Mangrovenator.
3:Can you resist magic rings?
If they’re shiny, no.
4:Do you have friends with hairy feet?
Yes.
5:Do you know someone who can do magic?
Does pulling a coin out of my ear and dropping it half the time count?
6:Have you ever almost been trapped in a tree?
I am a mangrove Ent. I am offended by the very suggestion.
7:Have you ever been to a volcano and had a finger bitten off?
No, a toe.
8:Have you ever talked to Elves?
They ain’t nothin but hound dogs.
Anonymous Elf (Galadhwen) Is your name Laura? ( I looked on the elvish translation page)
My elvish name is Limwen
noooo!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been discovered!!!!!!! brilliant deduction (Claire?)
Mine elvish name is Silmarwen Ancalime.
But i prefer dwarves anyhow, if only because their writing is actually easy to write, not like those twirly elvish things.
Elves do rock though. As do hobbits. And humans. And nazgul. And…oh heck, everybody in middle-earth rocks. Even if they don’t. Please don’t think about that…
I don’t really like my Elvish name. It sounds too much like a regular name. I’ll choose another instead. Hmm….how do you like-oh never mind. I can’t decide.
Whoa! Arwen’s English name would be Martha! Oh. Or Arya. Now that sounds more like her.
I wish the site would let you search a name…not so much scrolling.
and I also wish that you could search for a real Elvish name and get it’s English translation.
you can do ctril + F and type in the word you want to find and it finds it everywhere on the page. thats how i found my name b/c i didnt feel like scrolling 4ever.
elvish writing rocks!! I want to learn it then i could send messages which no one would be able to understand (yay)
oops 4got to change name
what the — — — — — — —
anyway, to post what i THOUGHT it just posted, you can do ctrl + F and type in the word you want to find and it finds it everywhere on the page. saves you from scrolling 4ever. also, I want to learn the elvish alphabet which i think is called Tengwar (excuse spelling) then i can send messages which no one will be able to understand except me.
ok, that was REALLY screwed up just there. GAPAS . . . ??!!
i have all 3 LOTR soundtracks and i listen to them whenever i’m bored and/or depressed. it really helps. also one time last august i was really bored so i spent all day watching all 3 LOTR movies in a row. it ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you should try it (if you haven’t already)
woo-hoo! I found it!!! must remember to apoloize to Malignant Mandolin for being clueless
anyway, moving on, it would rock to have a LOTR sword, no?
Clara , but Limwen is also Claire….
Someone who went to my school last year taught herself to write in Elvish, and she had it all memorized…I wish I could do that!
in orchestra we watched some of lotr
ah, i no longer feel all alone
I love the LOTR visual guide (to the movies). the pix rock. however many facial expressions Orlando Bloom may not have, he is still ahhhhhhh-dorable.
why are there never any decent pix of Eowyn????? the, like, best character in the whole thing and she is so underappreciated!!! Maybe I should start an Eowyn Is Underappreciated Club . . .
I don’t like Orlando Bloom, or anyone else who people “worship.” It drives me CRAZY everyone is like, “I loooooove Orlando bloom! I have a poster of him in my room!!!”
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
then you would hate my best friend . . .
Sorry…It’s not that I know him or anything
I think he’s a good actor…
I would have to disagree. I think he’s a terrible actor. Which is the reason for my loathing actually. You can’t deny he’s not at least a little bit hott but his acting is so bleh that it doesn’t matter.
Compared to other actor’s, I agree, he’s really bad…but he’s better than some others…
Actually, now that I think about it, he is a bad actor.
Orlando Bloom’s hilarious in the Pirate’s of the Carribean. Probably because he portrays an idiot so well.
The absolute best character in the Return of the King was ……
….. I can’t remember her name! But she was the nurse in the Houses of Healing, and she was HILARIOUS. Aragorn’s like, get me this plant, Eowyn’s dying, and she starts rambling about this conversation she had with her sister once. I love her. She also almost got caught talking during the coronation.
And I hate Eowyn. She’s a power-hungry jerk, until Faramir comes along.
gawd… a friend of mine in Arazona has a callender and a poster of orlando bloom in her room as well as some pictures. i recentley got her brother to hide them. i do not approve of her going crazy over him. They make those callenders and stuff for lovesick girls to buy so they can make money…
Hey! I heard that!!!!!! : cry :
Sure, Orlando may not be the best of actors, but he is FAR from the worst. Honestly, everyone is so mean to him! Why, I think everyone should apologize to Orlando for being so mean–*sniff* *cut off mid-rant* Why, is that DONUTS I smell??? *wanders off in search of the All Powerfull Pastries*
Oh, Veralidaine, I believe the character you speak of is Ioreth.
AH! YES! Thank you. That’s been driving me nuts ALL DAY.
Yes. Ioreth. She rocks.
Alaskabird… your friend’s name is not, by any chance, Logan, is it? Quite likely it is not. I am sure there is more than one Orlando-crazed girl in Arizona, but I just thought I’d ask…
Um. No. its… not … i am not sure that she wants me to tell her name but SHE MIGHT COME TO MUSEBLOG! You guys will love her, she always finds ways to make typed stuff interesting…smilies, odd abbreviations (aciemb, a crock is eating my butt) and etc etc…
Oh yeah, i go by just bird now…
There are way too many Orlando obsessed girls though… :)!!
*OK EVERYONE* new blogger!! *WELCOME PIES FOR DESERTDRAGON*
uh.. skipper.. i did not relize this but my freinds name is desertdragon! giver her a welcome pie. and don’t wory, she knows what i think of “her precious orley” so its ok. :)!
Another AZ museblogger! cool. The only other one that I know of (besides moi) is king george, and he’s been hiding a bit lately.
Yeah, all AZ Musebloggers ROCK!!!! ;D
*wipes welcome pies off face* mmmm… Is that boisenberry that I taste?
Anyways, hahaha….
*sniff* Where is everyone??? I feel so ALONE!
Sorry, desertdragon! I went on vacation.
Back on topic….. Has anyone tried the Silmarrillion? (I botched that.)
havnt been here in a while wats goin on?
[JV — I’ve been abbreviating your second name, but I’ll stop if it’s not your real name. If it is your real name, please abbreviate it yourself or choose another one. Thanks, –Robert.]
its ok
its not my real name. neither is johnny for that matter
its a name some scouts made up in my troop
p.s. how do you have time to manage all the blogs and do the Q&A???
pps. why has nobody posted anything on monty python
lotr or sherlock holmes but me in the last 2 days?
Some threads die. It’s a sad and sorry thing, but what can we do?
He has that much time because he’s a GAPA. They’re amazing. And ageless. So he has an eternity to get all this stuff done.
i remember when this 1st started i waz post 27 or 33
How do you request threads to keep theese threads alive?
hahahahhahahahahahha
im bored……………………………
yep noones posted here in like 6 months
164-add anather 6
Hi. I have a few things to say.
1. WHO THE HECK IS MILTON RUPINES?!
2. I haven’t watched the movies or read the books yet, but I’ll probably get the first movie from Netflix tomorrow.
3. Here’s a link good flash file titled “They’re taking the Hobbits to Isengard”!
[Snip. –Admin.]
Milton Rupines has his own entry in the Muse Glossary. It will tell you everything you need to know.
I would like to say a few things:
I *sniff* haven’t read the books, and I’ve only seen the first movie.
166 – you are psychic – I was think of putting that link in here.
Here are my favorite parts of the first movie:
When the two boys acidentally launch a rocket in the tent.
When the same two boys say, “That was good.” “Let’s get another one.”
When those two boys say, in the farm, “I don’t know why he gets so upset. It’s just a few carrots!” “Oh, and a few cabbages. And the bag of potatoes that we took last week. And the mushrooms a few weeks before that!” “OK, I get it, Pippin! My pont is, he’s clearly overreacting!” Surrrre he is…
When those two boys again say, near the end, “It’s working!” “I know it’s working! Run!”