Muse Movie, Part 3: Expert Advice

Samantha Sordyl’s friend Pat Dahl has agreed to come on board the blog and talk about your ideas for a Muse movie. He works in Hollywood (in TV, but knows a lot about movies) and has read Attack of the Smart Pies.

(For those who came in late, planning and lobbying for a Muse movie is Cedar’s big project. You can read more about it at Muse Movie? and Muse Movie? Part 2.)

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171 Responses to Muse Movie, Part 3: Expert Advice

  1. Patrick says:

    Hey, guys!

    My name is Patrick Dahl and I am, indeed, friends with Samantha Sordyl. Well, her sister at least. She asked me to come on here and talk to you guys about your plan to take over the world make Attack of the Smart Pies into a movie.

    First off, a little background on me. I’m not nearly as exciting as the little introduction makes me out to be. I graduated from film school at Northwestern University three years ago and moved out to Hollywood almost immediately. I got my first job as a production assistant (getting people dinner/making copies) and have climbed the ranks up to Writers’ Assistant for the new CBS show “The Class.” Basically, a Writer’s Assistant sits in the room with the twelve writers on a TV show and types up the script. I also take notes on story ideas and make sure their joke pitches are written down. Because this is my job, I’ve heard a lot of ideas and yours sounds like a good one.

    I’m happy to answer any questions or help in whatever way I can, even if that means helping Cedar (who, by the way- is a creative madman!) make sure the script is in the proper format. As it says above, I’ve read the book, so I’m familiar with the characters.

    Just a note – I think I’ve read almost all the scripts you’ve posted. They are very good. One other thing you guys might want to consider doing is writing a synopsis. A synopsis is basically a two-page summary of what will happen in the movie. It is written in present tense and hopefully it shows the tone of what you’re trying to do. It is something that you can send to agents/directors/actors to give them a quick idea of what your film is and what you are trying to accomplish.

    In addition, the idea of collaborating with all the readers of this blog seems like a big task. A synopsis might help make the movie idea clear to people who are new to the blog.

    All right. That’s me. Let me know if you need any help/have any questions.

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  2. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    Hi!

    *does second post dance*

    sorry about that – it’s a tradition.

    I have a question for all musers out there –

    we were thinking of making a movie?

    can someone link me to a post that has a script on it?

    reeeeally confuzzled right now.

    and we reeeeeeally need a synopsis.

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  3. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    Planning and lobbying for a Muse movie is Cedar’s big project. You can read more about it at https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=205 and https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=383.

    I’ll add this note to the main post for this thread.

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  4. Violetfire says:

    Hey Pat. Mind if I call you Pat? It is also kind of a tradition.
    Anyway, I wanted to know if you were really sure about this. MuseBlogging is a full time job. You’d have to be on here a lot and put up with a lot of us. Which can be very hard. You sound like a nice guy and I’m sure you can help us a lot. Cedar is the big expert on this movie, since he’s been at it since he first came on the Blog. He’ll probably be talking to you a lot. We’ve had plenty of crazy ideas about the movie, and we’ll be counting on you to tell us if they’re good ones. Good luck!

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  5. Sweet Melpomene says:

    Cool.

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  6. Jadestone says:

    Yes!! I’ve been at those threads with Cedar too, and this is great news! If you like it then chances are lots of other people will and it’ll finally happen… but I’m getting ahead of myself. Lesse… I have a question. If we do get all of this done, the synopsis and scripts and all, what would we need to do toget it noticed by a movie producer person or somthing and actually start to make it happen?

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  7. kiki_the_great says:

    Pat! Tell Samantha Allegra says hi. I know her too.

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  8. Patrick Dahl says:

    Anyway, I wanted to know if you were really sure about this. MuseBlogging is a full time job.

    Well, I bought the book and read it, didn’t I? :) And this is my second post in one day! I think I can handle it.

    I have a question. If we do get all of this done, the synopsis and scripts and all, what would we need to do toget it noticed by a movie producer person or somthing and actually start to make it happen?

    Truthfully, the fact that a bunch of kids who really love a book got together and wrote a movie script together is a really interesting story. If the script is good then I’m sure you could get at least somebody important to read it (I can help with that).

    First things first, though, there needs to be a script! :)

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  9. Ebeth The Stalker says:

    Yeah, this is great behind-the-scenes stuff. Kids can make things happen! Inspirational speech time! good advertising.

    Where are all the scripts we had before? Mebbe we should put them all together and go through them. Take bits we like and whatnot. We should get Larry g to read them too…what he hasn’t read…

    well go pat! w00t! Happy you came…i think we have more of a chance now… :D

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  10. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    Okay, I just read part of the first thread about this movie…

    personally, i’m really against having a musical…

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  11. demolition lover says:

    (10) i’m in agreement on that one. i think it should be a melodramatic comedy, with british accents. and then the aussies sweep in. with a special appearance by my chemical romance.

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  12. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    (11) not quite what i was thinking of…

    when we first began to talk about movie in the first thread, we all thought it should be real life/3-D kind of thing. Now, we have sooooooo many different ideas!

    Pat, how can we fix this?

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  13. Veralidaine says:

    Um…. My Chemical Romance might not be quite the right background music.

    Soo is it animated or not? It’d be awesome if it wasn’t, but Koko’d have to be.

    Obviously.

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  14. Cedar says:

    THANK YOU PATRICK

    (And GAPAs)

    Koko would be animated.

    As I said in my last script sample, he appears to be a short person, with a thin waist, and no facial feattures, made entirely out of swirling dark fog and blackness,

    THIS IS SO COOL!

    Forgive the caps Violetfire

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  15. Cedar says:

    I think live action movies are oftentimes more emotional.

    That’s why I vote for live action.

    With Koko as an animated 3D shadow.

    I can live if it’s animated, but I would be much happier if it were live.

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  16. Cedar says:

    Okay, I have a question:

    My goal is to have the movie in theaters by Febuary 10th, 2008.

    Would that be possible if we worked quickly?

    Or would that not be enough time for the produc tion company to make a decent movie?

    June 1oth , 2008 might be a little better.

    What do you think pat?

    I’ll start writing the synopsis now.

    PS: I have goosebumps right now.

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  17. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    15 – how’s feather going to be live action?

    i mean, a dressed up person is going to be kind of awkward, don’t you think?

    and craww (or however you spell his name) – is he going to be a real bird?

    i have an idea – when emma steps into the Muse world, everyone is cartoon!

    it’s a change, just the like the wizard of oz

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  18. Cedar says:

    SYNOPSIS OF THE MUSE MOVIE

    By Cedar

    Title: Kokopelli and Company

    Rating: PG- For mild violece and scary situations, including child in jeopardy sequences

    Based on the book: Kokopelli and Company-In-Attack of the Smart Pies- By Larry Gonick

    Plot: The parents of a young girl named Emma (played by unpicked Muser girl), are killed in a horrible car crash, and Emma is sent to live with a seemingly nice family, called the Drinkwaters. Mr. Drinkwater (Tim Currey) it turns out, is a drag, and gradually becomes more and more hostile towards his foaster daughter as the years go on. One day, Emma escapses from Mr. Drinkwater, and runs away to the mall. There, she meets a strange, orange, (and not to smart) birdlike person named Feather (Gary Burghoff). She follows him to the mysteryous secret land of ‘Kokonino County.’ Feather reveals to Emma, that he is a member of the nine ‘New Muses’ who, like their old Greek counterparts, whisper helpful suggestions to people in need. Only with better technology. Emma tells Feather about her foster father, and a mysteryous secret code from her parents, of which she has one half in her backpack. Feather takes Emma to see the Muse scientist Chad (Samuel L. Jackson) who might be able to help with Emma’s problem. He is stopped however, by the wily trickster Muse, Kokopelli (Jim Carrey), who is busy working with Chad, on a giant pie flinging catapults, wich uses sattalite technology to hurl huge self guided pies at Urania (Mirranda Otto) the Muse of astronomy.
    Kokopelli (often reffered to as Koko) cons the rather stupid Feather, into helping him pie Urania, whom he exibits a bit of a grudge on. Emma, who realizes that Urania is the only one who can help her crack the secret code, does everything in her power to protect the Muse of Astronomy. As Chad, and his mute chinese assistant Aeiou (Zingh Zayh) work to buid a better pie catapult, they also work to build better defenses, making for a truly hilarious predicament. Meanwhile, back in the natrual world, Emma’s teacher, Mrs. Krishnamurti (unpicked Indian actor) realizes that Emma is missing, and goes to Drinkwater’s house in search of her. Drinkwater ends up taking the persistant Indian teacher hostage, in order to cover up his evil plans, regarding Emma’s inheratence. He locks her in the basement, with a plate of steak sandwhiches, which the teacher doesn’t eat, because she is a vegatarian. Back in Kokonino County, another Muse, by named of Mimi (Nickole Kidman) lures Kokopelli into a trap, by writing a fake letter from Urania. Koko comes to Chad’s Lab, where all of the other Muses await him. He is put on trail, and eventually loses his temper, and sets off the pie machine, which is now at its mosty powerful. Feather, Emma, Aeiou, and Aeiou’s pet crow Craww (voiced by Chris Rock) race to destroy Koko’s horrible machine, before it wipes out all of the Muses. They manage to destroy the machine, as well as Kokopelli’s pride. Kokopelli walks off in a sulk, leaving Emma and Urania to ponder over the secret code, which Emma has now obtained the other half of. However, Urania, a math genius, can not figure the coded message out. Bo, a highly intellectual cow (voiced by Ellen Degeneres) infroms Emma that the message, is in fact, a passcode to a safebox. Emma thanks the Muses, and returns to Feather’s house, for a final meal. Feather makes Emma a special tea, which will eventually erase Emma’s memory of the Muses, due to the fact that she knows to many of their secrets. Emma leaves Koknino County, sad but hopeful, and sets out to rescue her teacher. Apoun arrival at Drinkwater’s she is locked in the basement with Krishnamurti, after Mr. Drinkwater reveals that he was the man who killed Emma’s parents, and the reasons why he despises her. Just when all seems lost, a strange little man, in a dorky plaid suit, named
    Dr. Eze Momoh, appears to help Emma and her teacher, stop the horrid Mr. Drinkwater, once and for all. Dr. Momoh, who is, in secret, Kokopelli, helps Emma stop Drinkwater, as well as open the safe from her parents. After Drinkwater is arrested, and Emma go’s to live with Krishnamurti, who turns out to be her cousin, Kokopelli returns to Kokonino County, and everyone lives happily ever after.

    Please forgive any spelling errors I might have missed.

    What we want to accomplish:

    Larry Gonick’s Muse characters, are funny, smart, and great for all ages. His book, ‘Attack of the Smart Pies’ is a wonderful mixture of comedy and mystery. It’s goofy enough to appeal to younger audiances, and yet smart enough to appeal to adults.

    It is also very emotional at times, like any good novel ought to be. The story of the sad oprhan girl Emma, is told very well.

    We want to make the movie just as good as the book. Or maybe even better.

    We want to make an appealing family movie, that parents can come see with their kids, without wondering if they’ll pass out before the film is over.

    We want it to capture the elements of humorous dialogue, and slapstick comedy from the book. As well as the mystery, and the lessons about anger management that Kokopelli go’s through.

    The movie should be live action, in order to make it more emotional. Live action movies usually seem to have more feeling then animated ones. This is due partly to lighting abilities in my opinion.

    In other words:

    We want the critric’s quote at the bottom of the box to say
    ‘The best family film of the year.’

    Hope you like this Patrick.

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  19. Cedar says:

    Bellatrix.

    Feather is made in the same way they made Golloum from LOTR

    Craww and Bo, are real animals, made to look like they are talking, using the same technology from Dr. Dolittle, and Stuart Little.

    You know I never thought about that Little thing.

    That’s funny.

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  20. Cedar says:

    I have to go now.

    I’ll be back tommorow.

    I hope to hear from you Patrick.

    PS: I still have goosebumps.

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  21. kiki_the_great says:

    um, and koko’s computer-anymated, right?

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  22. Patrick says:

    (11) not quite what i was thinking of…

    when we first began to talk about movie in the first thread, we all thought it should be real life/3-D kind of thing. Now, we have sooooooo many different ideas!

    Pat, how can we fix this?

    Unfortunately this is one of the problems with such a big collaboration, it is hard to make decisions. I think when deciding what style of movie it should be you should consider what would best fit the tone of the script. If it is going to be real people, will it be a little wacky like in “The Grinch?” What advantages does animation have? 2D animation (like The Simpsons) is easier to create, but 3D animation (like Shrek) can be really neat to see on the big screen.

    One area to look at is the flying pies. Would those be neater to see animated or in real person? Along those lines, animation lends itself to a suspension of disbelief, meaning that you are more willing to believe fantastical things when they are drawn (are you guys too young for Looney Tunes? Think of Wile E. Coyote only falling when he looks down). But with special effects being what they are, this could make for a fun “live-action” film (live-action means with real people).

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  23. Patrick says:

    My goal is to have the movie in theaters by Febuary 10th, 2008.

    Would that be possible if we worked quickly?

    Truthfully, that’s probably not enough time.

    I worked on “Family Guy” for a while, and I learned there how long it can take to make an animated show. Those guys write a 30 minute TV show a full year before it is aired. It takes over 9 months just to do the animation.

    Attack of the Killer Pies seems like the animation/special effects would be very time consuming to create. You also have to write it, sell it, prepare to shoot it, shoot it, edit it, etc. Unfortunately, that means you might want to push back your dream date, possibly more than a year.

    I’m sorry to be the bearer of such bad news.

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  24. Patrick Dahl says:

    Cedar –

    I think that’s a great synopsis. You did a really nice job summarizing the book and it is clear you have a lot of passion for the project. Keep it up.

    You mention in it that you migiht even want to make it “better than the book.” What are some things about the book that you want to change? You are very familiar with the characters — do they have any traits that aren’t in the book but would be good in the movie?

    Pat
    P.S. – Don’t be too excited. I’m not that special. :)

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  25. Prarilius Canix says:

    Cool. This will increase Muse readership so that Mostly Harmless will be easier to bring about.

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  26. The Honorable Otzi, Boian Prime Muser says:

    Feather *walks dreamily into line* mmmmm….
    Emma:Nice day.
    Feather*shakes feathers*
    Emma *pokes him, gets on tiptoes so when he looks around she is right over his shoulder*I SAID, Nice day!
    Feather: *looks surprised and shocked* What?

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  27. The Honorable Otzi, Boian Prime Muser says:

    There. We started a script.

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  28. Lizzie says:

    18 (cedar)- you might want to get someone to edit the use of commas/spelling/grammar in general.. I’d do it if I weren’t so lazy…

    22- yeah, I’d think I’d be the most useful doing music as well.. Should we, the Musers, attempt to write the music ourselves?

    actually, I decided to edit it a bit after all.. I made a few sentances shorter, took out some redundancy, hopefully caught most of the grammar/spelling..

    SYNOPSIS OF THE MUSE MOVIE

    By Cedar

    Title: Kokopelli and Company

    Rating: (?) PG- For mild violence and scary situations, including child in jeopardy sequences

    Based on the book: Kokopelli and Company – Attack of the Smart Pies by Larry Gonick

    Plot: After the parents of a young girl named Emma (played by unpicked Muser girl) are killed in a horrible car crash, Emma is sent to live with an adoptive family, called the Drinkwaters. Mr. Drinkwater (Tim Currey) however, appears nicer than he actually is, and gradually becomes increasingly hostile towards his foster daughter. One day, Emma runs away to the mall. There, she meets an unusual, slightly dimwitted, birdlike creature named Feather (Gary Burghoff). After asking for help, she follows him to the secret land of ‘Kokonino County’. Feather reveals to Emma that he is one of the nine ‘New Muses’ who help people in need, similar to their ancient Greek counterparts. Emma tells Feather not only about her foster father but also about a mysterious secret code left to her from her parents. Unfortunately, Emma has only half of the code and knows not of what it speaks. Feather takes Emma to see the Muse scientist Chad (Samuel L. Jackson) who Feather believes may be able to help Emma with her problem. He is stopped, however, by the wily trickster Muse, Kokopelli (Jim Carrey), who is busy working with Chad. They are holed up working on a giant pie-throwing catapult that uses satellite technology to hurl gigantic “smart” pies at Urania (Mirranda Otto), the Muse of astronomy.

    Kokopelli cons the rather stupid Feather into helping him pie Urania, against whom he has a grudge. Emma, who realizes that Urania is the only one who can help her crack the secret code, does everything in her power to protect the Muse of Astronomy. As Chad and fellow muse Aeiou (Zingh Zayh) work to build a better pie catapult, they also build better defenses against it, making for a truly hilarious predicament. Meanwhile, Emma’s teacher, Mrs. Krishnamurti (unpicked Indian actor), realizes that Emma is missing, and goes to Drinkwater’s house in search of her. Drinkwater ends up taking the persistent Indian teacher hostage in order to cover up his plans to steal Emma’s inheritance. He locks Mrs. K. in the basement. Back in Kokonino County, another Muse, Mimi (Nickole Kidman) lures Kokopelli into a trap by writing a fake letter from Urania. Koko comes to Chad’s Lab, where all of the other Muses await him. He is put on trial for crimes against other Muses, loses his temper, and sets off the pie machine, now at its most powerful. Feather, Emma, Aeiou, and muse of bad poetry Craww (voiced by Chris Rock) race to destroy Koko’s fiendish machine before it wipes out all the Muses. They manage to destroy the machine, as well as Kokopelli’s pride. Kokopelli walks off in a sulk, leaving Emma and Urania to ponder over the secret code. Emma obtains the other half of it in an expedition to her house, but Urania, a math genius, cannot puzzle out the message. Bo, muse of factoids (voiced by Ellen Degeneres), informs Emma that the message is not a code, but a pass-code to her parents’ safe-box. Emma thanks the Muses, and returns to Feather’s house for a farewell meal. Feather makes Emma a special tea to erase Emma’s memory of the Muses and prevent her from revealing their secrets. Emma leaves Kokonino County, sad but hopeful that she can outwit her foster father, and, finding Mrs. K. a prisoner, sets out to rescue her teacher. Upon arrival at her house she is locked in the basement with Krishnamurti, after Mr. Drinkwater reveals that he was the man who killed Emma’s parents. Just when all seems lost, a strange little man named Dr. Eze Momoh appears to help Emma and her teacher. Dr. Momoh, secretly Kokopelli, helps Emma stop Drinkwater, as well as open the safe from her parents. Drinkwater is arrested, and Emma goes to live with Krishnamurti, who turns out to be her cousin. Kokopelli returns to Kokonino County, and almost everyone lives happily ever after.

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  29. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    oooooh, great idea to have bo voiced by Degeneres!

    That would soooo match!

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  30. Cedar says:

    I will get someone to edit.

    I always do.

    I was excited. So I wasn’t at my best.

    I’m going to go to Larry’s website today, and ask him what production company he’d like to make the movie.

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  31. Cedar says:

    Kiki.

    Yes. Koko is computer animated.

    If they can make Golloum, they can make a person made out of dark fog.

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  32. Cedar says:

    Thanks a bunch Lizzie.

    My folks will still have to check it over one last time, but that’s a great help.

    Glad you like the synopsis Patrick.

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  33. Cedar says:

    I’m gonna go over to Gonick’s website now.

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  34. DP says:

    I think live action movies are oftentimes more emotional.

    That’s why I vote for live action.

    Isn’t this supposed to be a comedy? =\

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  35. Cedar says:

    Well apparently my computer has turned against me.

    It’s not letting me send things from the form on Gonick’s site, and I don’t have his email adress.

    Pat, do you think you could ask Samantha, to ask Gonick, who he would like to produce the movie?

    Samantha does work with the Muse Crew doesn’t she?

    Hope you can help.

    I tried.

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  36. Cedar says:

    I think the pies should be a mixture of live action, and computer animation.

    This would be accomplished in 3 stages.

    1. Camera shoots Pie machine, with a large, live action fake pie in the flinger arm.

    2. The catapult fires, and the computer animated pies do their thing.

    3. Look out, as giant, live action fake pasteries are dropped all over the place.

    It would make for some funny bloopers on the DVD no doubt.

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  37. Cedar says:

    In regards to the tone of the film:

    I do not want this to turn into a wacky, dorky children’s movie like ‘The Grinch.’ I don’t want to lose a bunch of sleep the night before it comes to theaters, go there, watch it, and then come out spouting a bunch of swearwords which I won’t blab on this blog.

    I want it to appeal to all age groups.

    Something that’s funny enough for the kids to enjoy, but serious enough to keep the adults/teenagers awake.

    SOMETHING TO CONSIDOR:

    I’ve heard that some animated films, especially the computer animated ones, can take at least 4 years, maybe longer, to complete.

    Live action would probably take much less time, once we actually get things going.

    Those in favor of getting it done by June 2009, or Febuary 2010 at most, come and join the fight.

    Those of you who’d like to wait till 2013, I’m sorry but I can’t and won’t agree.

    I’m for quick progress.

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  38. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    Really, I don’t mind when the movie comes out,

    as long as I’m alive when it does

    but soon would be nice.

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  39. bulletrpoofmarshmallow says:

    think about it guys. are we really serious about this movie? Is anyone going to want to see an movie based comic strip characters from an educational magazine? If we were only planning to have it released as a video for sale in the Cricket catalog that would be fine. people there would buy it. But think about it, who else would buy it? Or even watch it for that matter? I’m not putting the idea down. Its just that maybe we should make it a little more low-scale. awe probably wouldn’t get a very good budget either.

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  40. curious and questioning says:

    I’m for the movie, but I think we should change the title.
    The movie is about Emma, and Mr. Drinkwater, as much as Koko and the other muses.
    What was wrong with the book’s title?

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  41. The Honorable Otzi, Boian Prime Muser says:

    I think it should be live action with cartoon (drawn) Muses sort of pasted in. It might be a little tricky, but I think we could do it

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  42. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    Like Roger Rabbit?

    I like the idea of live-action Muses (where possible) who turn into cartoon characters or rotoscoped drawings during the Kokonino County sequences.

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  43. The Honorable Otzi, Boian Prime Muser says:

    oooooh! Could Otzi play Emma? Otzi would really like to….
    No? rats.
    Otzi does not even look like Emma.

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  44. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    If Pat is right about how long it takes to make a movie, the girl who will wind up playing Emma is probably in kindergarten right now.

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  45. Cedar says:

    Keep in mind Bulletproofmarshmallow, this movie is based on the book, not the educational cartoon strip.

    That would make a nice TV show though.

    Sort of like ‘The Magic Schoolbus’ but more quirky.

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  46. Cedar says:

    The movie’s title is different then the books title.

    Book title: K&C-in-Attack of the Smart Pies

    Movie title: Kokopelli and Company

    Attack of the smart pies is left off, in order not to sound dumb to adults.

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  47. Cedar says:

    Hmmm.

    How could we include animated Muse footage, in the movie, but still have it be mostly live action?

    Let me see.

    Aha! Got it!

    There could be an animated dream sequence, in which Feather is chasing a humongous rolling donut, and Koko is chasing Feather, and smart pies are falling like bombs, all over the place.

    The dream sequence would be brief, because it is not important to the stroy, and ends on a humourous note, with the donut exploding against a wall, and Feather waking up in a cold sweat. *

    * Exact layout of dream sequence may change by the time I write that script sample.

    Yes, a comedic dream sequence seems best to me.

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  48. Cedar says:

    This is amazing.

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  49. Cedar says:

    We’re already halfway to a hundred posts.

    I have to go now.

    Hope to here from Patrick (A.K.A ‘The Savior’) soon.

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  50. Lizzie says:

    Maybe everything could be live action, except in Kokonino co., where suddenly the muses are cartoon but Emma remains the same..

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  51. Eccentric the Afterthought says:

    I agree with the people who suggested the changing scenes between live action in some places and cartoon in others, such as in Kokonino County. If the movie were entirely live action, I’m not sure it would be able to support the muses’ personalities, since they were originally cartoon characters. Yet an entirely cartoon movie might not capture as large or varied of an audience as live action due to viewer preferences. For example, I have a friend who hates all cartoons, no matter how interesting some of them might be. She refuses to watch animated movies. A movie with both live action and cartoon in it seems like a sensible choice, as it would both bring together the differing ideas of the musebloggers and let the movie flow smoothly, without the problems sudden appearances of cartoons in live-action settings might create. But that’s just my opinion; I really don’t have any idea what I’m talking about. ;)

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  52. Cedar says:

    What about superhero cartoon strips that have been turned into live-action movies?

    I don’t read a lot of super-hero comics, but I did see ‘Batman Begins’ and it was actually pretty good.

    Cartoons can be translated into live people, and still be good.

    And with all of the crazy special effects these days, there’s hardly anything that an actor can’t do. Or, pretend to do at least.

    I’m going to stick with an animated dream sequence in the movie, and a ‘Lard of the Rings’ bonus short, before the movie.

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  53. Cedar says:

    I have to go now.

    See you tommorow.

    Hope to here from Patrick.

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  54. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    HAH!

    Lard of the Rings…

    but I don’t see what’s wrong with the name, “Attack of the Smart Pies”…

    i mean, who wants to go see a movie whose title they can’t even pronounce (kokopelli)?

    No, Attack of the Smart Pies sounds much better to me…

    a lot more exciting, if you get what I mean…

    and besides, it will make people laugh… or groan… or just stare dumbly…

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  55. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    And another thing-

    We really need to start on the script.

    We can all worry about the animation part,

    but that’s not important yet.

    We’re not going to get anywhere, or impress anyone, or call attention to ourselves by thinking about the production of the movie.

    We need to crack down on the script.

    So far, we’ve just been dreaming about making a movie.

    Time to make the dream a reality.

    *to self* Bella, shut up, enough of the prep talk already…

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  56. Admiral Penguin says:

    I think the whole thing should be live action, besides the Muses. The muses should all be CG, i think.

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  57. Cedar says:

    Kokopelli is pronounced:

    KO-KO-PELL-EE

    To the best of my knowledge.

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  58. Cedar says:

    Ahem Bellatrix!

    I’ve already posted a bunch of script samples, and I’m planning to repost them all into one huge script sample, on a future
    Muse Movie 4 thread.

    So I’ve already started bigtime, and a few other people have posted short mini-scripts.

    Why don’t you post your own.

    Go to ‘Muse Movie? Part 2: Scripts’ to post your ideas.

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  59. Cedar says:

    I expected Patrick would’ve stopped by on Sunday.

    Being the weekend and all.

    Maybe he’ll come in at the end of the day, when we’re all off-line, and check up on us.

    Hope he comes in soon.

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  60. Cedar says:

    Some things that were changed from the book in my script:

    1. Car crash

    Book= Car gets rammed into the interscection, and gets flattended by a brick truck.

    Movie= Car swerves to miss other car, and goes over a small cliff, the front end explodes, leaving the back end/Emma, intact.

    2. Emma’s escape from Drinkwater

    Book= Barely mentioned.

    Movie= Hyped up quite a bit. Darien chases emma onto the roof, and then is distracted by a screaming voice in his head, which turns out to be Mimi. Emma jumps off the lowest parto f the roof, and onto ground. Her arm is cut, and she runs to the mall to go get bandages.

    3. Scene in which Feather and Urania run through the parking lot to escape Koko’s falling pie storm.

    Book= Fairly boring, but funny.

    Movie= Still funny, but more dramatic.

    4. Scene in which Feather tries to locate Emma on his I.A terminal, and it turns out she’s right behind him.

    Book= Not included.

    Movie= Added for humor.

    5. Koko’s morphing ability.

    Book= Not included.

    Movie= Added to make Koko appearer sneaky and sinister. He’s a little like ‘Captain Jack Sparrow.’ When you first meet him (or at least when non-Musers first meet him) it’s hard to tell if he’s good or bad. In my upcoming script samples, I will try to make it unclear as to the nature of his character. He turns out good in the end, but he seems bad at first.

    Those are some of the things I want ot change about the story
    Patrick.

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  61. Cedar says:

    I have to go now.

    See you tommorow.

    Hope to hear your comments Patrick.

    Bows at feet.

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  62. elassë~adael says:

    43- I strongly agree that Kokino county should be animated. The rest can be live action/computer generated but Kokino county should look magical; a place out of reality.

    If you need my help, I’ll help.

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  63. Ebeth The Stalker says:

    i say muses and kokonino are animated, people and real world are live-action. So when muses go into real world, they’re still animated. When emma goes into kokonino county, she’s still real.

    Is koko going to be 2-D? do say yes. :D

    I think the car crash should be the same for 2 reasons. 1-that’s kinda hard to believe, having the last half intact while the front half explodes. plus, over a cliff? i don’t see how emma could be undamaged while her parents died over a cliff like that. idk, i guess it’s possible, maybe plausible-i wouldn’t know. It just doesn’t seem realistic enough to me. 2-what about the scene where mr. drinkwater is recreating the accident? a brick truck’s a lot easier to do with little glass figures than a cliff.

    The rest of the changes seem ok i guess. What’s the morphing ability thing? i didn’t read all the scripts (or bits of them)…

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  64. Patrick Dahl says:

    Hey, guys. I’m really sorry that I wasn’t around this weekend. I didn’t have access to the computer.

    Okay, first things first:

    Guys, I know you want to get the movie out there, but you have a strong artistic vision and you shouldn’t forget that. I think the most important thing is that you create a quality movie. In ten years, it won’t matter when the movie came out, it will only matter that it was good. I’m not saying you can’t put out a good movie in 2-3 years, just suggesting that you don’t compromise to do so.

    Personally, I like the idea that the scenes in Kokino County are animated and the humans are real people. It reminds me of “The Wizard of Oz,” in that Oz was in color. Also, I think the book has a very fun and whimsical feel to it that could be best captured if animation were involved.

    I’m just checking in – seems like you guys are coming up with a lot of good ideas. Let me know if you have any specific questions.

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  65. elassë~adael says:

    65- yes animation would definately add a whimsical quality that is essential for Kokonino county. It’s different than emma’s world.

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  66. Gwendolyn of the Eastern Seas says:

    Personally, I think that we should write a bigger part for Pwt. (S)He said nothing in the book, and I think that he could be one of the big comedic relievers if we were to give him a bit more to say.

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  67. Anata~ChinTsu says:

    But how would you capture the muses in the real world? Everything else sounds spiffy.

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  68. elassë~adael says:

    I think it would be cool if undiscovered actors would be in it. They’d be more willing to do it and it would be awesome if this was the movie that got them famous.

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  69. Cedar says:

    Live/animated
    Animated/live

    That would make it look like that mixed mediums scene from
    Mary Poppins.

    To little-kid-ish.

    My next set of script samples will featture the animated dream sequence.

    You can tell me what you think when I post it.

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  70. Cedar says:

    It’s more of a big hill, then a cliff.

    A 3-D Koko can do more things thaty a flat, and dull 2-D Koko.

    2-D Koko is good for paper, because he can’t actually move.

    A 3-D Koko is good for the big screen, because it allows him to have more physical personality.

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  71. Cedar says:

    I made up a mophing abilty for Koko, which allows him to change into anything he wants, a shadow version that its.

    At one point, he changes into a shadow image of Chad, and makes fun of him.

    It adds an element of wierd comedy.

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  72. Cedar says:

    I just realized something we haven’t discussed.

    Lighting issues.

    Go to the original ‘Muse Movie?’ thread, to post your ideas on how verious scenes should be lit.

    I’m going there now.

    PS: I’ll try to get that animation scene written out soon.

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  73. Cedar says:

    I’ll try to think of a way to give Pwt more a role.

    One thing to keep in mind about Pwt, is the pronunciation of his name (which seems to be a small, spitless raspberry) and the fact that he is a complete worry wart.

    I always laugh whenever I see Pwt panicking, and it would be fun to see him doing it in the movie at some point.

    We’ll also have to include a brief chase sequence between Pwt and Craww. I’m not sure how it’ll fit it in. But I’ll try to think of something.

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  74. Cedar says:

    Two quick questions for Patrick:

    1. Do you know any directors/producers who might be interested in coming by the blog? Not as often as you of course. Maybe just for one post?

    2. From the sounds of it, you think the movie would probably be out in 2016. Is that correct? Gadzooks!!!

    I better draw more pictures to put under my matress.

    They brought you. Maybe they’ll bring more.

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  75. Cedar says:

    I have to go now.

    I may not be around as often for a little while.

    We’re doing some work on the house.

    I’m not sure about that. I may still be here every day, but I may not.

    Hope to hear from Patrick about those 2 questions.

    See you later freinds.

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  76. Veralidaine says:

    This sounds awesome, but I really don’t think anything good of Jim Carrey. I think Robin Williams’d be better, he made a pretty good genie.

    But they’re probably both WAY to expensive, we’ll end up goiving some amatuer his big break.

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  77. yesterday's_kinked_moose says:

    I’m in love with the idea of a Muse Movie, but i haven’t read much of the threads becuase i was scared off by Cedar’s capitals (by the way, thanks for easing up on that) and the huge amounts of posts that seem to accumulate in a short period of time, making me old enough to vote before i’ve read all of them. I didn’t read all these by the way, so sue me. Hey, it’s 1:30 in the morning and i’m about to go to bed! (which i should have done many hours ago) Anyway, what’s the current plan for getting the right people interested? Cedar, i like the shadow thing. I always was and still am in favor of a 2-D Koko. Some people seem to feel that 2-D would cramp Koko’s style, but Koko’s style is 2-D. i just think a 3-D Koko would be weird. I might have said this before, but i like the idea of animated muses with real people, like Toon Town in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

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  78. Ebeth The Stalker says:

    I can’t see koko as 3-D. I mean, turn him on his side and you wouldn’t even be able to see him! as far as i know, larry g’s only drawn koko from one side or the other, he never turns around or anything. he’s flat flat flat.

    oh yeah, i re-read the book last night because i was bored but didn’t want to go to bed too late and it was shortish. Anyway, another reason for keeping the original car crash-feather’s line about “a glass penguin smashed into her parents’ little horse” or something like that is pretty dang funny.

    You know what i like, is if musers did some of the acting. i know a lot of musers have been in plays and things and are about the right age to play emma, and i’m sure there are more who can do voices well enough. of course they’d have to convince parentals that this isn’t an elaborate plot to lure them into the Stalkers’ Lair, but i think that would be really cool (having musers act i mean, not being lured into the Stalkers’ Lair).

    One thing about Pwt, her/his name and gender could be a comic relief sort of thing, like emma could be introduced to him/her…idk, something like…

    Feather (or whoever): Emma, this is *indecipherable mutter*
    Emma: I’m sorry, what was your name again?
    Pwt: *indecipherable mutter*
    Feather: *indecipherable mutter*, this is Emma.
    Emma: Pleased to meet you. So what are you the Muse of?
    Pwt: Animals
    Emma: *nod, smile, whispers to feather* Is it a he or a her?
    Feather: *shrug, whisper back* nobody knows.
    Pwt: Well, i should get back to my musing now, there’s a pretty serious pig problem. Bye Emma, bye Feather.
    Feather: Bye *indecipherable mutter*
    Emma: Bye…um…bye!

    idk. whatev

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  79. Jadestone says:

    Or we could have craw by Pwt in all the scences with his/her name is said, and then every time someone said it he would caw loudly so no one could tell what it was.

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  80. yesterday's_kinked_moose says:

    Yeah! That’s good stuff! I think it would be good to incorporate both ideas. You could have the muttering in the first introduction, and then crawing later. One thing Ebeth: What do you mean ‘there’s a pretty serious pig,’? Don’t you mean ‘there’s a pretty serious pig…on the loose,’ or, ‘there’s a pretty serious pig…eating my pants,’?

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  81. yesterday's_kinked_moose says:

    Oh wait. I just saw the ‘problem’ there. That’s weird. I totally blocked out a whole word. I seem to do that a lot.

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  82. Ebeth The Stalker says:

    haha, there’s a pig eating my pants! Aaah! Get it off me!!!!

    Ooh, how about right after Pwt says “pig problem” he/she flicks on the IA and we see a mad pig eating this farmer’s pants?

    The World: Hmm…not bad
    Ebeth:And then the pants explode!
    The World: ……..um…NO
    Ebeth: Awwww

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  83. Cedar says:

    Robin Williams might be good.

    Mike Myers might be good too.

    THe voice I made up for Kokopelli, slightly resmebles Shrek’s voice.

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  84. Cedar says:

    I’ve just managed to install my music making software, and am currently setting up Gist of Tracks.

    The tracks are not meant to be the exact insruments that should be playing, but various instruments do mean different things:

    Gentle flute= Soothing

    Fast flute = Excitable/Kokopelli

    Piano= Quite but not soothing

    Orchestra= Loud

    Drums= Loud and scary

    Guitar= Drinkwater’s theme (gentle version)

    There may be some others I haven’t thought up yet.

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  85. Cedar says:

    Once I finish the Gist of Tracks, I’ll send a copy of them to the Muse Crew, as a donation for the MMPP.

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  86. Cedar says:

    Any news on my questions from post 75 Patrick?

    Especially the first one.

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  87. Cedar says:

    I have to go now.

    Dinners ready.

    See you all tommorow, hopefully.

    We’ve been busy lately as I said before, so I might not be able to come.

    I hope you can answer my post 75 questions Patrick.

    The first one is the most important.

    Bye.

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  88. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    Who’s going to play Pwt?

    I mean, we don’t know if Pwt’s a boy or girl,

    so we need someone who… doesn’t sound like either gender…

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  89. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    (79) – EtS

    the only problem with a Muser playing Emma,

    is that by the time production starts,

    all the original Musers will be waaaaaay past Emma’s age.

    well, maybe not waaaaay past, but just past.

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  90. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    Michael Jackson could use a little extra money just now, I hear.

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  91. Cedar says:

    All evidence seems to suggest htat Pwt is man.

    Every time they mention his gender in the magazine (or in hte book) they always say ‘he/his.’

    I’ve never heard them call Pwt a she.

    Therefor it should be a male Egyptian comedian.

    Pwt should be funny.

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  92. Cedar says:

    GOOD NEWS!

    I just found a printed out version of the lost script sample, and I cfopied it to the computer, and posted it in ‘Muse Movie? Part 2’ fopr you guys.

    Hope you like it Musers.

    And Patrick too.

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  93. The Honorable Otzi, Boian Prime Muser says:

    I think Pwt is a man. Sometimes the unwary Larry Gonick has muses refer to “It” as “He” in the margins of the comics. Maybe ‘It” is a hermaphrodite, although I have yet to se any feminine aspect.

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  94. Cedar says:

    Pwt is almost certainly a ‘he.’

    There should be no question about that.

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  95. Cedar says:

    I hope to hear from Patrick on Sunday.

    Gotta go now.

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  96. Der Wachtelschlag Fliegender-Queen Julietaini the F. of K. says:

    Pwt’s gender is irrelevant. “It’s not an elephant, it’s a hippopotamus.” Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

    Cedar, there’s also the song, which is really good.

    I don’t know what we want. Claymation? It wouldn’t look realistic. Which is okay, as realistic isn’t really what we’re aiming for here. It doesn’t need to be emotionally powerful, Cede. Violence in claym. looks cartoonish. Which is fine, as we don’t want an intensely powerful film, or an emotional one.

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  97. Lizzie says:

    91- haha, I’m sure the parent of whichever muser girl got to play Emma would love that..

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  98. Cedar says:

    I’m glad you like the song D-W-F-Q-J-the-F-of-K.

    If they turn this into a claymation movie, don’t be surprised when hear about me bombing the Muse offices.

    Just kidding.

    Also:

    If a film doesn’t have emotion, it’s not worth seeing.

    The original edition of LOTR 2, cut out too much of the emotion, and it sucked. The special edition has more feeling, and is loads better.

    POTC 2 was also a bit less emotional then POTC 1, and it wasn’t all that hot either. Although I would say I liked it better then LOTR 2- theater version.

    A film has to be emotional, in order for us to feel for the characters.

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  99. Cedar says:

    I’m going to go start work on my next set of script samples now.

    They’ll be on ‘MM-P2’ in a few days.

    Gotta go now.

    Please respond Patrick.

    Bye.

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  100. Brave Sir Robin �|� says:

    Cedar don’t take this too personally, but you don’t seem to be open to anyone else’s ideas!! I mean, I only read until about comment 62, and you rejected every idea anyone but yourself has contributed.
    Personally, I think you need to consider our ideas. No offense. Ok, rant over.

    I think that having the muses be cartoon would be better than having them be live action. It would be good to have everything change into cartoon when emma goes into Kokokino country. And I don’t see what is wrong with the name “Attack of the Smart Pies”. I’ll post other ideas if everyone actually reads and considers these ones.

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  101. elassë~adael says:

    70-animation isn’t always little kid-ish. It depends on the type of animation. It would be good to seperate Kokonino county from Emma’s world. Also, you do need to be a little more accepting of other’s ideas as Brave Sir Robin said in post # 101. Many of us agree that animation would be good for Kokonino county yet you continue to reject the idea.

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  102. D.Wach.Flie., Queen Juliette (Julietaini) says:

    99-Yes, but you’ve probably never seen She Drinks Too Much, Rupert In The New Millenium, Il Postino, Patently Not or, for that matter, Temperate Skies. I mean, really.

    We don’t want Emmaworld and Kokonino County to look too similar, do we?

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  103. Brave Sir Robin �|� says:

    Have you ever seen the movie “Homeward Bound”? There is a ton of emotion, but it isn’t a very good movie. There are more things to a movie than emotion, especially since this is supposed to be a comedy.

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  104. Cedar says:

    I have agreed with some ideas.

    I’ve even asked for advice on stuff I didn’t know much about. Like what sort of plants might be in Kokonino County.

    I am forced to disagree with quite a few ideas though, because the majority of you, seem to be aiming for a G-rated, Mary Poppins, or Disney’s Bedknob’s and Broomsticks movie (both of which, featture scenes, mixing live action and animation).

    I’m aiming for mostly live action, plus a PG-rating.

    But that’s really the only thing that I absaloutly disagree with everyone on.

    There are some ideas that I mildly disagree on, but could live with anyway.

    I could not live with a Live/animated mix.

    It always looks little-kidish, and cheesy.

    I wouldn’t mind fully computer animated, as long as the animation is really good, like in Shrek.

    But I will have to kill the one responsible, if live/animation happens.

    I hope that clears it up.

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  105. Cedar says:

    There is a lot of comedy in my script samples, espcecially once Kokopelli makes it into the picture. But I liked the book because it wasn’t all just a bunch of dumb pie-throwing. A good book makes you feel for the characters.

    I was very upset when Dumbledor got killed in Harry Potter 6.

    A good movie makes you feel for the characters too.

    You feel sorry for Frodo in LOTR, because his part is acted out so well.

    I’m not saying no to comedy. I’m saying no to all comedy.
    The book is not all comedy, and so the movie shouldn’t be either.

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  106. Cedar says:

    An animation/live action mix, is really the only idea I could not live with.

    I disagree mildly with osme other ideas, but I could live with them.

    I would be fine if the movie was fully computer animated.

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  107. Cedar says:

    That’s the oddest thing.

    My computer kicked me off the Museblog for a minute, and when I returned, my most recent posts had vanished.

    Ignore post number 107.

    It’s basically a shorter repeat of post 105.

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  108. Cedar says:

    We can make Kokonino County seem different from Emma’s world, by the way we light the scenes.

    In Emma’s world, the ligthing is dull and boring, as thougfh nothing magical could ever happen.

    In Kokonino County, there is something strange about the light, as though it is extra sunny, and magic is floating through the air.

    Sort of like the way the elven lands are lit in the LOTR movies.

    The lighting implies some sort of special magic.

    The other lands don’t have that light.

    That could devide the two lands in a good way, without the problem of live/animation mix.

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  109. Cedar says:

    I have to go now.

    I’ve been making big progress on my current set of script samples.

    I’ve finished the first of the next five scenes, and I’m halfway through the second.

    I’ll post the first two tommorow, unless something happens.

    See you later.

    PS: I’ll try to be more open to other ideas. But I refuse to accept the live/animation mix idea.

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  110. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    As I recall, Mr. Dahl said your first priority should be a script. That’s what is most likely to interest a production company. Artistic decisions (such as how to achieve special effects, which plants to use, how to light specific scenes) can come later. Heed the man from Hollywood!

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  111. Brave Sir Robin �|� says:

    I think it should be shrek-type animation then. Because with that type of animation, it looks realistic enough for emma’s world, and it looks cartoonish enough for the muses world

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  112. Brave Sir Robin �|� says:

    I really do not want the muses to be live action. That is the one idea I really disagree with- live action muses.

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  113. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    HELLO?!

    WHO HAS THE BOOK ON THEM, CUZ WE NEED A SCRIPT!

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  114. Patrick Dahl says:

    guys, i’m sorry! things have been crazy at work – i’ll be back later tonight with a solid post.

    thank’s for bearing with me.

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  115. Robert Coontz (Administrator) says:

    BL (114),

    It’s still available on Amazon.com.

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  116. D.Wach.Flie., Queen Juliette (Julietaini) says:

    I’m going to emulate how Cedar types, because I want to find out why he does it.

    Mr. Dahl, everyone says that.

    ‘Bedknobs and Broomsticks’ was written by Roald Dahl.

    Also, the German in that movie is really bad.

    So we’re not emulating it.

    We could have some emotional depth in our movie.

    It’s not going to be a hybrid of ‘Billy Elliott’ and a cheesy kids’ animation movie, OK?

    Actually, it could be.

    We could have the emotional depth of B.E., but a little less Scottish and mining and ballet-y, and the fantastical wackyness of Muse coupled with Western-style animation worthy of Studio Ghibli.

    Mr. Coontz-GAPA, sir? Could someone ask Mr. Gonick if it would be all right to change his dialogue?

    And if you haven’t seen ‘Billy Elliott’, you should.

    Because it’s a good movie, the accents are great, and it’s something you should see.

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  117. Cedar says:

    I am perfectly happy with Shrek style animation.

    It would take longer to make the movie, since that kindo f animation is really complicated, but we’d all be parto f the adventure along the way.

    I would like a live-action Muse Movie, but for now, I’ll go along with
    Shrek style.

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  118. Cedar says:

    The next two script samples are ready!

    I’m going to copy and paste them to part 2 right now.

    Hope you like em.

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  119. Jadestone says:

    Yay!! I’ll go read them. I sort of think it would be nice to have it live action. It’d seem more realistic. And, well, I dunno. I’ve just been picturing it in my mind as live action.

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  120. Patrick says:

    I guess the only two questions asked of me were the two by Cedar, so I’ll answer those:

    1. Do you know any directors/producers who might be interested in coming by the blog? Not as often as you of course. Maybe just for one post?

    I think the best way for you guys to snag a director/producer is to have a finished script you can show them. It would be amazing if you guys were able to put something like that together, and I certainly think it would get you plenty of attention.


    2. From the sounds of it, you think the movie would probably be out in 2016. Is that correct? Gadzooks!!!

    There is no telling how long it might take a movie to reach the silver screen. Even the most famous directors aren’t in control of when their movies will come out. Steven Spielberg’s movies have made more money than any other director, but he still is at the mercy of big studios when it comes to approval of a project, and ultimately, the release date.

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  121. Ebeth The Stalker says:

    Whoa, this is some intense debate. Well you know me, i’ve always sayed animation. i’m liking the split idea though. sort of wizard-of-oz-y. Anyhoo, i’m almost as much opposed to live-action muses as Cedar is to animation. And Cedar, i think you’re stressing the little-kiddy thing too much. What’s wrong with a movie that simply doesn’t happen to have anything a little kid couldn’t see in it? Besides, don’t we want little kiddies to see it and subscribe when they get older? Aren’t we sort of enlisting musers with this? And anyway, i know plenty of adults who enjoy a good G or PG rated movie better than anything.

    i had more to say (or i think i did) but i forgot cuz mom’s yelling at me to get off and i g2g now. Actually she’s saying “a few more minutes” but i’ve learned to get off the first time she says that or she’ll keep me updated every 10 secs so i can’t hear myself think, much less type deeply insightful thoughts into the dear comp. so bye all.

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  122. Cedar says:

    The good thing about Shrek style animation, is that it almost looks live action, but there’s still a smal element of cartoon-ish style.

    Shrek style is a good compromise.

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  123. Cedar says:

    Ebeth.

    The reason that I stress the little-kiddy thing so much, is because my biggest fear, is that someone will try to turn this into a dork movie, filled with a bunch of pointless pastery throwing.

    I’m certainly not saying it should be innaproriate for little kids.
    I’m just saying it shouldn’t be geared towards little kids.

    I can think of a few little kid appropriate, but not made for little kid movies that my siblings watch (Riley= 9/ Cooper= 7):

    1. Sister Act/Sister Act 2 (They really like those)
    2. A Series of Unfortunate Events (Surprisingly kid freindly)
    3. Liar Liar- (A couple of not okay parts, but mostly okay)
    4. Shrek movies (Fun for any age)
    5. Willow (Just a little gory, but okay)
    7. Star Wars Trilogy (I’m not a fan, but the other kids love them)
    8. Cops and Robbersons (A bit of adult language, but okay)
    9. The Incredibles (Of course, they don’t watch it anymore, because my brother watched it so much)
    10. Hoodwinked (Some mild thematic elements, but okay for all ages)

    There, that’s 10 I can think of.

    As for the rating, I’m hoping for PG.

    G= Probably little kidish

    PG= Middle ground (Okay for tots and teens)

    PG13= Usually just for teens (My siblings are allowed to watch POTC though. POTC2 was a little gorier though, so they’ll hold off)

    PG is best, because it lets adults know, that it’s okay for their young ones, but it will appeal to them as well.

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  124. Cedar says:

    Thanks for answering my questions Patrick.

    The script is coming along good.

    I’m going to be leaving for L.A in a few days, so I won’t be able to work on it for a bit.

    But I’m not going yet.

    So I’ll get as much as I can done before I go.

    With any luck, I’ll have the complete script out by December.

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  125. Cedar says:

    I’ve decided it would probably be a little to much work to finish the script in my next letter.

    I won’t be that extreme.

    I’ll still add extra, but not so much.

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  126. Cedar says:

    Due to the fact that I’ll be leaving for L.A the day after tommorow, I wasn’t able to add as much extra as I’d hoped to my current letter.

    It ended up being only one extra scene.

    I’ll post it at ‘MM-Part 2.’

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  127. Cedar says:

    NOTE:

    My other big thread ‘Cedar’s B—o—–n—–o—-b—-o Extravaganza’ will be closing down soon.

    It will be up until I return from L.A

    Appoun my return, I will post a parting message on the B-thread, and then let the GAPAs post the ‘Time to close down now’ post.

    If anybody has any last comments regarding my future stage show, please go to the B-you know what-o thread.

    To the best of my knowledge, I’ll be gone at least a week.

    Now back to the movie.

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  128. Cedar says:

    You can now view scene # 11 on ‘MM-Part 2.’

    Hope you like it.

    NOTE TO LOTR FANS:

    Look for a humorous refference to LOTR 3 in Scene # 11.

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  129. Cedar says:

    I hate to distract you from the task at hand, but I would suggest you travel, to the ‘Dissing Mr. Joe’ thread, and read my post (number 156) for what may be the rudest insult yet to be thought up by a Muser.

    Back to the movie.

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  130. Cedar says:

    Hello fellow immortals-uh Musebloggers.

    Enjoy me while you can, becasue I’ll be leaving later tonight, and won’t be back from L.A for ten days. A bit longer then I thought it would be.

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  131. Bellatrix Lestrange says:

    wait, i’m sorry but i’m really confused, where are the scripts?

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  132. Jadestone says:

    Look under the Muse Movie: Part two link at the top; that’s where people posted them

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  133. Cedar says:

    I’M BACK!!!!

    Another tip Bellatrix.

    Most of the scripts samples have been posted by me, and they are all in capital letters.

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  134. FrigidSymphony says:

    a movie would be cool… is the idea to have a 3D computer animated or to use actual actors??

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  135. Cedar says:

    It seems we’ve agreed on realistic Shrek style computer animation
    FridgeSymphony.

    There was a huge argument going on for a while, about weather it should be animated, or live action. I was hoping for live action, since that would make the Muses seem more real. Most of the other kids wanted cartoon animation. I could not possibly stand that.

    So now we seem to have come to a good compromise. Computer animation is realistic enough to please me, and cartoonish enough to please everyone else.

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  136. Cedar says:

    I just had a really zanny idea.

    I’m still for Jim Carrey playing Kokopelli, but I have a new idea for someone to play the more sweet voice of ‘DoctolEze Momoh.’

    Get this, AL GORE!!!

    As anyone who has seen Al’s movie ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ can attest, Mr. Gore appears to be quite good at speaking in a reassuring voice, as Momoh is described to be.

    What do you think GAPAs, Bloggers, and Patrick?

    Maybe Al would do it if we promised to donate a portion of the proceeds from the movie, to stopping global warming.

    That’s what his movie is about. It’s really good.
    Not as dramatic as Micheal Moore’s ‘Farenhite 9/11.’

    Sorry I got off track.

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  137. Cedar says:

    THE LETTERS TO BIGSHOTS PLAN:

    A good way to accomplish something big, is to get someone big interested. One bigshot is good, but imagine if we had a bunch of bigshots on our side.

    Here’s the plan:

    1. Find some kind of contact information for your most favorite director, writer, actor, etc. and tell them what we’re trying to do.

    NOTE: Make it as short as you can. We don’t want them to get bored.

    2. Hope they reply.

    3. If we each send letters or emails to a whole bunch of Hollywood bigshots, people may get interested.

    REPORTER IDEA:

    Why didn’t I think of it before!!!

    I am such a dweeblezit!!!

    Write a letter to the newsreporter of your choice, telling them about our efforts. Come to think of it, I wouldn’t be surprised if dear Patrick has been doing something of the nature already.

    The press can be anoying sometimes, but I think we may need them on this.

    It may be a while before I can manage to write someone, but I’ll try it.

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  138. Cedar says:

    BIG IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As of real soon, I am going to start writing out a biography of my own personal experiences of making this movie a reality.

    Or at least as much as I can remember.

    I’ll keep writing it as we move along, and I’ll talk about all sorts of things that have happened.

    The last few chapters will have to wait till the premeir happens.

    NOTE TO FELLOW MUSEBLOGGERS:

    If you would like to say something in my book, write out what you want to say, and post it on one of the MM threads.

    Be sure to write the letters AMB, or NMB at the top of the post.

    AMB= Anonymous Museblogger Quote
    NMB= Quote from Museblogger (Your name)

    If you don’t type those letters at the top of the post, I won’t considor it for the book.

    Rock on everyone.

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  139. Cedar says:

    I am gonna start work on the introduction now.

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  140. Jadestone says:

    Whoo! Shweet! I still wanted live-action, but if most people want animated than I guess it’d be okay.
    139- Cool! I’ll write somthing! But not now, I’m being yelled at…grr. Later, than.

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  141. Cedar says:

    I’d prefer live action too Jadestone.
    But realistic computer animation is a good compromise.

    It has occured to me, that I haven’t informed the Muse Crew of this change in plans.

    I’ll be sure to tell them in my next letter.

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  142. Cedar says:

    QUESTION FOR PATRICK:

    Which newspapers would we want to write to, to get more people interested in us?

    Could you reccomend any reporters who have done good stuff about kids?

    Hope you can help.

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  143. Cedar says:

    NOTE ON MMPP:

    I’ve realized that the MMPP serves a slightly different purpose, now that we’ve decided to have it be computer animated.

    Actually it serves two purposes:

    1. If it’s animated, then the things we send in, can be used as guides.

    2. If they go with live-action, it will serve the same purpose as before.

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  144. Cedar says:

    NOTE TO JADESTONE (and anyone else who might want to make a contribution to my book):

    I am currently working on the introduction.

    I’ll post what I’ve got so far.

    There’s not enough to start a thread for it yet.

    That will have to wait till I’ve got the first few chapters.

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  145. Cedar says:

    INTRODUCTION

    Way back in March 1997, a children’s magazine came into existence that would become the most successful children’s non-fiction magazine on earth. Well, I’m not sure if that’s true, but it sure ought to be. This magazine was a beacon of hope, for all of those kids who wished writing reports were easier (and less boring). It was a shining star, for kids who dreaded the classroom (or really loved it for that matter). And it was a gift, to parents who wished their kids had a greater interest in learning about the world around them.

    This wonderful children’s magazine, was known, as Muse.

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  146. Cedar says:

    Hope you like that.

    I’m going to leave now, so I can get more work done on it before my computer time is up.

    Rock on freinds.

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  147. the man for aeiou,fetherian pm says:

    cedar`s intor then but befor muse there was a group of nine .this is the story

    kaciaotsps takes palce before 1997

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  148. the man for aeiou,fetherian pm says:

    that is the start of the musie

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  149. Cedar says:

    Things are coming along good with the book.

    Hope you can my latest question (post 143) Patrick.

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  150. Cedar says:

    INTERESTING NEWS:

    I’ve invited my aunt Lisa, to come onto one of the MM threads, and she said she would try. I called her earlier today, but she said she had someone working on her TV.

    Figures.

    But she may be coming by sometime soon.

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  151. Cedar says:

    It occured to me not long ago, that perhaps we should have the MM premiere in Arizona, where Kokopelli was born.

    What do the rest of you think?

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  152. Cedar says:

    Hmmmm.

    Patrick must be busy. He still hasn’t answered post number 143.
    Wonder what he could be working on.

    (Scratches chin with pleasently puzzled look on face)

    Hmmm-hmmm-hmmm.

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  153. Jadestone says:

    Ohh, I like. Now, I was thinking that maybe we should write to one of those kid-news pages first(well, that have one in the Chicago Tribune) because it would technicly be a movie for the younger generation. Then maybe as it got better and bigger, we could start to send it into editorials and other columnists. After that, when it’s closer to being filmed/animated, we could try to get it in the actual bits of news.

    But the colums not-on-normal-new are more fun to read than the actual news, I think.

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  154. Julieb says:

    Don’t you think the director will want to make some of these well thought out-but extremely detailed plans him/herself? I mean, I think it’s more important to get a script and get a producer interested before we decide on lighting, backround music, and premiere spots. Not that they weren’t all excellent suggestions.

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  155. Jadestone says:

    Hmm, true. I guess first we should decide who we want to make it, like what studios and such. The writing of the script and sending it places are our main concerns at this point.

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  156. Cedar says:

    That’s the point of doing all this work.

    The more stuff we plan, and the closer we get it to perfection, the less work the actual film crew will have to do.

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  157. Cedar says:

    CHANGE OF PLANS:

    I originaly changed the car crash, to a much more dramatic depiction of Emma’s parent’s car tumbling down a steep hill, and the front end exploding (just missing Emma in the back seat).

    Quite a few of you said it was too much.

    After careful considoration, I have decided you are right.

    I am going vto leave the blog for a moment, and rewrite the crash scene.

    I will post it on MM-Part 2 in a bit.

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  158. Cedar says:

    You can now read the new and improved version of the car crash prologue on MM-Part 2.

    It’s almost the same as the original, except for a couple of changes I made.

    Hope you like it.

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  159. Cedar says:

    Has Patrick left us?

    I haven’t seen him on here forever.

    He must be really busy.

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  160. Cedar says:

    Well this is nuts.

    I just hope he’s occupied with something worthwhile.

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  161. Cedar says:

    Okay.

    I tried another one of those good luck fung-shui thingys to bring Patrick back.

    Hang bells from your doorknob, and the jangling will bring positive energy.

    The bells also have Kokopelli figures attached to them.
    So that’s even better.

    Patrick we need you.

    PS: When you finally do make it, would you mind telling us what you’ve been working on?

    We’re praying.

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  162. Jadestone says:

    Hmm… I would do that, but having a bell on my doorknob would get a bit anoying… I think I’ll keep with the pics-under-the matress for now.

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  163. Cedar says:

    I have at least 30 something pics under my matress by now.

    I should make more.

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  164. kokopelli #13 the KABOOM says:

    pics of what?

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  165. Cedar says:

    It’s a fung-shui thing.

    You draw a picture ofd what you most want, and put it under your matress. It may just come true.

    I believe it worked to some level, because not long after I did it, Patrick came to help us.

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  166. Cedar says:

    Patrick, I have come up with another question via Jadestone.

    Am I doing the script in the proper format in terms of making it all in capitals?

    It would save me a whole bunch of grief if you could supply us with a brief sample of what a professional script looks like.

    I suddenly don’t think I’m getting it right.

    Hope you’re back soon.

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  167. Cedar says:

    Because I am about to leave for California again, I am currently experiencing a silly fantasy of meeting Patrick for lunch at some fine Hollywood resteraunt, and taking photos to post here.

    No way that’s ever gonna happen.

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  168. Jadestone says:

    Aww. We can still dream. I wonder if he’ll ever drop by here again though…

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  169. Cedar says:

    I just hope he’s doing something worthwhile.

    Perhaps the new season of ‘The Class’ is starting soon and he needs to help out with that.

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  170. Jadestone says:

    Yeah, they’re probably busy shooting and stuff. Well, maybe he’ll drop by when it’s not so busy to see how we’re dong and help us with the script format and stuff.

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