I love art. My favorite artists: Da Vinci, Botticelli, Andy Goldsworthy. I also like Kiki Smith.
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1- I have other favorite artists, but can’t think of them because one of my dad’s old friends just walked in. I must whizz into the living room, radiating gaiety.
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I like stuff from the Impressionism Era, if you can call it that, for the most part.
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I’ve always wanted to take art classes, because I’m not very good at art type stuff. I’ve always wished I could draw people well…but I can’t.
Technically, I should practice sometimes. I might have to suck it up and teach myself one of these times.
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Art? Well thats not nearly a general enough topic.*Groan* Sorry, I’m just sort of annoyed by too little instruction lately.
I love ceramics. Working with your hands, you can just lose yourself completly focusing on your creation. My favorite artists? Jackson Pollock. Ruth Duckworth. And many many more.
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I love colors. And shading. Brett Helquist is brilliant at that, but I really would like to work with oil pastels. But sometimes with my work, color would ruin it…Well at least with my horrible coloring skills >
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Do it. Look at it. Admire it. Love it.
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Whoooo, thank you, GAPAs!
Favourite artist ever = Salvador DalÃ. He was a genius, a maniac, a surrealist, and an all around frood.
4- Does your town/city have a sort of art league? I’m not very good at realistic people…cartoony or twistedly cool, yes, but realism eludes me.
So. Who else loooooves oil paints? They pwn. Because you can put the paint on really thick and mix the colours on the canvas/board/whatever, and they take ages to dry, so you can modify them for about a day until it gets sticky and filmy…fun times. And the texture is just too cool. I love doing things with different brushes and strokes for texture….I’ll paint with anything. Including my hands and hair. The latter wasn’t the brightest idea…
And pencil sketching. Because it’s quick and fun.
Can anyone here do that really cool ballpointing thing? Ahh, I’ve seen people on devART who do just that, and it always looks amazing. Impossibly so. I can’t manage it.
*meanders off to dinner, still gushing*
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5 ~ Well, it leaves more room for us to start discussion on what we’re interested in, I guess.
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5 – are you kidding?!? Art is a hugely broad topic. I go to an arts school, and there are lots of arts in the school, including writing (yes, it is an art), Instrumental music, (yes, it is an art), Vocal, (yes, it is an art), Theater, (yes, it is an art), Musical Theater, (yes, it is an art), and Visual Arts
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8 ~ Dali is awesome. I did a project on him for Spanish class. It was really fun.
We don’t have anything like that that I know of.
Looking at random stuff on DeviantArt can be really fun.
10 ~ I read that as sarcasm.
Your school sounds amazing. I’m moving to Pittsburgh or something. xD
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7- Good idea. But I don’t know how I’m going to love it after I look at it. sigh.
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6. Art is awesome like Nancy Kangas
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8- Ooo ooo ooo!! DalÃ! Melting… clock… melting..
I saw this great exhibit on him in a Parisian museum- really astounding. I love his moustache.
I’ve never painted with oils, but I love acrylics. I love slapping on with the palette knife for the background and then getting detailed with a brush for the foreground. I did a self portrait over the summer in acrylics. The background has this choppy texture. It’s subtly gradated grays, and then there’s my big head with wind-swept hair in front, just turning to look at you.
But my favorite is just plain pencil. I start with an H, then somehow end up with a B9. That’s usually how it goes. Oh, I was recently copying a Raphael (I had hardly any idea he did stuff in pencil, but it was just about the most fun copy I’ve ever done) and the B9 really came in handy. The picture was the head of a youth with his hand pointing. It was a study; the hand wasn’t actually connected to anything. The youth had incredible curls that I had a small skirmish with. They almost looked like water. I was quite impressed.
I LOVE this thread! I could rant FOREVER!! But I should stop now.
I just have to say this: my school is really cool, but next year I’m going to be able to continue only two of the four arts: dance, visual arts, music, or theater. I can eliminate dance because I do modern outside of school, but I DON”T KNOW WHAT to not do of the other three. I love them all, and have absolutely NO MORE TIME outside of school to squeeze something else in. What would you guys choose?
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Ah, art! Yay! I like drawing, and colored pencils are good. Is this like the Visual Arts thread, or just all art in general?
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Oh, I forgot this.
3- I used to be OBSESSED with Monet. REALLY obsessed. But now… I’m over it. I’ve gone Renaissance, except for Pollock, Smith, and Goldsworthy. Do you like Monet? I went to Giverny, and of course it had to rain (this was years ago) but it was very very cool. Just standing on the bridge…
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3: Yeah, Impressionism is one of my favourites too. I really like Monet’s art.
8: …Surrealism’s another one of my favourites. I haven’t seen much of Dali’s art, but I like the melting watches painting.
10: You’re right. I guess I can say that I know a lot more about theater and music than I do about painting and whatnot.
I don’t draw/paint. I do a lot of crafty things, though. I’m really into designing clothes (although I really suck when it comes to making sketches of my ideas).
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14 ~ Wow, that’s harsh. I would probably pick theater and music, but it would be tough. It’s just that I suck at drawing and stuff, so I’d probably stick with what I’m a little better at. It sounds like you’re a really good artist, though.
Does theater include musical theater? That could be a compromise…
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18- Thank you for the compliment. No, theater is just delivering speeches, acting, pantomime, all that. I just DON’T know what to do.
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BTW, the more famous of the melting clocks paintings is called La Persistencia de Memoria (the persistance of memory). I did a project on him for spanish, and I totally agree that he was a very froody dude. Some of his quotes are hilarious, and his paintings are amazing (albeit they can be scary)
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Who has DEVart? I’m getting it next year… I’ll tell you the URL when I get it…
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8- aaah! I love Dalà and surrealism. Pretty much anything surreal or whimsical.
17- yeah, I really like drawing though. I can draw allright, I just don’t do it enough to have it look fancy. I like my drawings, though. I write some, though mainly poetry and I only started doing that this summer-ish. I bead a lot, mainly making myself earings. Today I modified my t-shirt but I haven’t sewn it yet. I’m mainly a theatre person, though. I’ve done theatre for years. I’m a stage crew person mainly. And I ocassionally play my violin, though I don’t take lessons. I used to but my parents made me switch to piano which I don’t take lessons for either. —— in visual arts, I’d mainly draw with pen (especially those brush pen things, like the pen that has a felt-ish tip that’s sort of like a brush) or pastels. I like doing it on my own but I’m not really an expert. with writing, I only recently discovered that i liked to write in anything other than a journal. I really love writing poetry now. I like coming up with ideas for stories but I’m worse at getting those onto paper. I can capture things in poetry, though.
oh, new theatre thread? please?
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Great art book(s)= Chasing Vermeer + The Wright 3. They are Muse-worthy and completely FLAMABLAMABLOUS!!
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23- There are so many coincidences, though. It sort of bothered me. But they were good.
22- I love poetry, too! To write and read. I discovered the haiku two years ago and have been writing them and other kinds ever since. I think it really depends on the image for haiku.
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Awhile go I saw this really interesting Video Art at some museum. There was a head-shaped lumpish thing and a vidoe camera was projecting moving faces onto it. It was really fun to watch!
I really enjoy art. Next semester I’m taking Art as an elective. Last year’s big project was making paper-mache masks, and I made a really pretty wolf which is now hanging on my bedroom wall. I don’t know if anyone here would consider calligraphy as an art, but that’s another thing I enjoy doing. I also sketch in my free time and do origami.
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I like art class. I’m the only one who respects the art teacher. some times the guys steal his altoids, melt crayons in the microwave or have a clay war.
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I love art, especially visual art and instrumental music. This is kind of off topic, but in orchestra today we got the Pirates of the Carribean music. It is AWESOME!!!!!!
Anyway… in elementary school I had a really awesome art teacher. I swear she could draw a perfect circle on the chalkboard while talking to the class and not looking. (I’ve seen her do it.) We made all sorts of cool projects in her class, the least of which was a clay house.
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22: Theatre pwns. I’ve never been in stage crew, but I’d like to someday.
I think writing plays sounds really neat. I started writing a musical a few weeks ago (with some friends)…It’s coming along, slowly yet surely.
23: I’ve wanted to read Chasing Vermeer. Can it be compared to S of UE (I think the same person who illustrates S of UE illustrated CV), or is it really different?
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11 – no, that wasn’t sarcasm at all. really.
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27 ~ We did Pirates of the Carribean for the pops concert last year. It rocked, but the orchestra teacher cut out the awesome cello part because only two of us could play it well. -cellist- Today we got I’m a Believer for this year’s pops concert, and it has an awesome cello melody in it. So cool
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23- is the other one by the same author as chasing vermeer? If it is, I should read it!
24- go to the poems and songs thread!
28- if you join stage crew you get to do fun things like cary heavy stuff (that you also made) around and go on the cat walk and go on the roof. (in my school anyways) It’s awesome.
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Monet! Monet is cool. I love his pictures of lillys.
Where oh where is Rebecca Lasley? She was a frequent visitor to the other thread.
I read Chasing V and the Wright 3. They were okay, if below my reading level. I love to look in the pictures and find the hidden bits.
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Jadestone, when this thread started I was driving down the interstate from DC to NC after an unexpectedly long stay, and today I’m mostly trying — not always successfully — to keep from falling asleep as I recover from Christmas “vacation” and race to meet a deadline. Well, “race” as in ” stumble along half zombified.”
What is it about Monet, do you suppose, that appeals to people so much?
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25- Calligraphy is an art. Did you know it comes from the ancient greek words kalos and graphe (it’s written in another alphabet, but those are the words in the roman alphabet) which mean beautiful and writing?
26- That’s terrible! Do they do it in a mean way?
30- I’m a celloist, too.
33- I think it’s the brushstrokes. They have so much energy. And his colors.
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The only art that I am good at is pottery and ceramics. I can’t draw very well at all.
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Thanks GAPAs for the shiny art thread! I’ve been wanting one for ages!
(1) I love Andy Goldsworthy! I have one of his books- Time– it’s amazing! It’s so…fresh looking. Whenever I look at his art, I feel like I’m looking at another world, where everything is natural, yet purposeful, not random the way nature normally is. It’s relaxing and creepy at the same time.
(3) Skipper’s Incredibly long rant on Impressionism
I’m just finishing a 3 month long independent study on Impressionsim. I love it!!!! OK, that was a little over-eager I know, but the reason I’m so into it is that well, Impressionism is basically the basis for all modern art. I mean, before it, the art world was ruled by strict exhibitions and academies that had very fixed and conventional ideas on what was acceptable and what was not. Only classical stuff, which was really theatrical and stiff, and usually had sometiype of dramatic biblical/historical/theatrical story attatched to it was accepted. And then the Impressionists came along and BAM- they broke all the rules. And lots of people hated them at first, but after the movement ended, the art world was changed, and their ideas led to all the stuff that was see now- abstractionism and such. Plus their paintings were amazing.
I went to a whole big exhibit on Pissarro in Sydney last year, and then I got to see lots of Monet, Manet and Degas in the Met museum when I went to NY over thanksgiving break, and GEEZ!! It’s like- it’s like the captured light, movement, everything- it’s not frozen in the painting, it’s living in the painting.
For the presentation part of my project I tried doing my own impressionist paintings. It’s hard! But really fun. I did one of the view from my window-that one was ok, but not enough light or scenery- and one outside, en plein aire: the view of the mountains from my front yard. I really was happy with the way it turned out.
See, the desert is great for painting because there’s so many colors and textures. You’ve got the bushy light green trees, and the tall, pointy saguaro cacti, and the purple prickly pear and cholla cacti, and the yellow tips of palo verde trees, and the red dirt and such. Plus the moutains- I love my moutains. The catch the light and change colors with the day, and the tips are broken and complicated, fingers pointing upward.
Anyway,this project has been great because it’s forced me to paint lots, and think about painting in a way I never did before.
(8) No, I’ve only painted in acrylic. I know, that doesn’t make much sense, since proper impressionist painting is done in oils…but I’ve never had the chance to try, and I’m kind of intimidated by the turpentine and such… but I want to try them sometime anway.
(14) That’s cool. I wish I were better with pencil- I tend to get too tight and line-y, and all my people look the same (and they all look like me). But curls that look like water sound pretty cool!
I know your dilemma. I haven’t taken art in school since 5th grade (I’m now in 9th) because I’m in band, and in my school system, you can’t do both. I could, theoretically, now that I’m in high school, but really, I don’t have room in my schedual. So i have o be content with painting on my own and the occasional weekend art class.
Here’s the question you have to ask yourself: which class will be the best? You already know that you love all the topics equally, but sometimes one class is done better than another (like if one has a really good teacher or curriculum or something). In my experience, my school doesn’t have very good art classes, so I’ve always taken band, even though I;m better at art than music. So which class do think will have the better teacher/ curriculcum/ etc? You might now know, in which case this won’t be much help, but that’s my advice.
(25) Of course caligraphy is an art! Definately! I love arabic calligraphy in particular. My mum studies Islamic art, so we have lots of books with really beautiful prints of all this writing that’ has been turned into amazing works of art.
Here’s a quote from Monet that I think describes him and his work pretty well:
“I want to paint the air which surrounds the bridge, the house, the boat, the beauty of the air in which these objects are located, and that is nothing short of impossible.â€
(sorry about this uber-long post)
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I love Andy Goldsworthy! When we went to this environmental learning center in 7th and 8th grade, we got to do Andy Goldsworthy projects. They were really fun to make! And THF and I always do them when we go camping.
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I am a cartoonist! Does that count?
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11- Seriously cool! So did I!
Oh, well.
There’s this really awesome lady in a town near mine who has art instruction classes; I’ve been going to her studio since I and two of my friends signed up in sixth grade. She’s very cool…mostly, she helps the younger kids out and encourages and offers advice to the more experienced people there. ‘t is fun. I met another kid at her place who did NaNoWriMo; pretty much everyone there is a frood. HEART that place.
14- If I were a man, I’d totally have his mustache. He’s way cool. The Persistence of Memory is the painting most commonly associated with his soft watches, but they appear in others….like The Disintegration of the Persistence of Memory. I also love The Hallucinogenic Toreador!!!! Check out that portrait of Mae West, too! And Apparition of the Visage of Aphrodite of Cnidos in a Landscape…I could go on and on…. The various pictures of Gala as Madonna are sweet, too.
Pallet knives pwn.
20- *sigh* Amazing indeed. I tried to keep my suggestions G-rated…. Most of his pictures are so astoundingly realistic. Yet so twisted. Paranoiac-critical method, w00t.
21- I do. [ahem. snip! –Admin.]
22- Yay, poetry. If I have a story I can’t really write, I’ll draw it out. Or just write out random important plot points to work out later…
26- Bloody adolescent boys… Is your art teacher good? I hate when people disrespect good teachers…
36- Turpentine isn’t that bad. It just smells and makes your hands feel weird if you get it on yourself. Some sorts of that and paint thinner from hardware/home improvement stores usually work just as well as the teeny jars in arts/crafts stores…..
About two weeks until SM gets art with the new semester. w00tness to the extreme. I hope…..
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39) I’ve seen yours. You have a lot of photos on it.
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(38) Sure that counts. What type of cartooning do you do?
(39) OK. I will try oils some time, when I get the chance.
The studio you describe sounds a lot like this artists co-operative that I sometimes take classes at. it’s down in the old, artsy center of town and is full of cool people and interesting stuff.
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hmm.. do all of the arts count? what about music? dance? those are arts as well. Are does not have to be on a page (or canvas or whatever you are using) not that all drawign, painting cartoonign excetra are not wonderfull!!!
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soon i get to go to an exibit on van gough!
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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I’m really good at appreciating art. Seriously. I happen to be trained in classical analyzation, and I’m good at symbols and visual metaphors, especially in classical and sometimes in modern art. But I can’t create it to save my pathetic excuse for a life. I like mobiles (my father does too) and one of my favorite artists is Benjamin Chee Chee. He likes John Singer-Sargent.
Frank Lloyd Wright is overrated. I’ve never really been a fan of Monet. Or Degas. I couldn’t tell you why, but it never really spoke to me. I like pontilism, and I like pictures of boats, especially sail boats.
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I am a cartoonist. Not professionally of course. All the good ideas are taken already, so I write about my friends and I.
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43) Van Gogh’s life was a very sad one, wasn’t it? Or have you not learned about it? I suggest you do if you haven’t.
Especially the way he died. Suicide. He shot ‘imself, and it took him SEVERAL STINKIN’ DAYS TO DIE!
You would think if you were going to kill yourself you would want to do so quickly.
But I wouldn’t know, as I don’t want to kill myself……
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Van Gogh was good. But I really like M.C. Escher and Claude Monet. They so rule. Also Mary Cassatt was great.
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M. C. Escher is really cool. I like M. C. Escher puzzles. They’re hard but satisfying.
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Van Gogh had a mental break down, mutilated his ear, then spent a few months in a rehab sort of thing. Then he shot himself in a feild where he had once painted crows. Very sad life. But interesting work.
(44 Queenie) Cool! I’m not as interested in classical art, but visual metaphors and such are good. Do youl know/like Gaugin? His stuff is very readable. Too readable for me, I’m actually not such a fan. The thing about Monet and Degas is that they aren’t readble- they don’t tell a story. It’s just about catching a moment and immortalizing it, so that the beauty is contained on the canvas, and never dies. Where as classic art- it’s never a painting of something a real moment (even if it’s based on a true stroy, it still came from the artist’s head).
What about composition, though? Lots of people think analyzing art is just about trying to figure out what the artist was trying to say, but I prefer to look at what they did, because sometimes the artist is saying anything specific. Instead of asking the questions, what does this painting mean, or what does it symbolize, sometimes it’s fun to just say, how does the color work here, where do the lines intersect, how does the placement of that obejct fit in with the rest of the painting. Those are the questions I like to think about when I look at art. Which is probably why Impressionism appeals to me, (for example) Monet had a brilliant use of color, and Degas could capture movement like no other- and the angles and positions in his paintings are clever and dynamic. But they never really used symbolism or metaphors.
Poiltilism is great. There’s a section of a huge pointilist mural pf the Grand Canyon at my city’s art museum. It’s only part of the original, but it’s still huge. It shows the canyon at all hours of the day and the colors are fantastic. I have fun looking at it really closely, then backing up.
MC Escher is fantastic, like algebra in art form.
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I took an art class this year. Unfortunately, it’s over now and i have gym. Near the end of the class, we learned about the psychological effects of various colors. Did you know that the color yellow makes old people stumble and fall? Yes, apparently one’s tolerance for yellow lessens as one ages. Also, a green bedroom can make babies calmer. I don’t know how many (if any) of those things are true, but all of them were pretty ridiculous. And pretty much every color was supposed to have some sort of sexual power. So there’s your random and dubious facts for today. I love Escher.
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49-Artistic decisions hold little interest for me–maybe because I can’t interpret them because I’m not artistic. Sometimes I’ll look at a painting and think, “It’s about ____” and then I’ll look at it again and realize that it’s actually about something else because the one object is in dark and the other object is in light. Composition is important–if you mentally re-orient a painting, and move things, it looks different and has a different sort of mood. I have to change things to understand them with that. Does that make sense?
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(51) Yeah! I’m glad you knew what I was talking about. Sometimes when I go into a rant about artistic composition people just end up mumbling and looking away in disgust or confusion. But I like what you said about re-arranging things- that describes it perfectly. It’s cool to be able to understand art like that.
(50) Really? Hehe. Cool. I wonder what bunny hot-pink does to the brain…
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50: cool. Our class went on an art walk to visit various galleries, and one had this wierd neon stains on canvas that were litererally painful to look at, they were so bright. They were sort of fuzzed around the edges, which made you blink to make sure your eyes were still good, and you wanted to look at them, even though they hurt your eyes.
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Hot pink makes people go insane. And yet, it is addictive. Sometimes when i’m painting/drawing something, i’ll spend upwards of half an hour mentally placing an object in the picture in one place…then another place…and another, trying to decide where it should go. Of course, as soon as i finalize my desicion, it becomes exceedingly obvious that it should have gone in one of the other places.
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(54) Yeah, that is so frusterating. It’s hard to know where to put stuff.
Tee-hee. I just drew a cartoon. It has three mimes in it. The one in the center is sinister lookin, tall and skinny. The ones on each side are big, brutish and neckless, and are cracking there knuckles. The one in the middle has his fingertips placed together as if plotting something devious. The caption is “Organized Mime Syndicate”.
I think I should send it to the New Yorker, whadya say?
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I don’t have trouble organizing stuff, but I’m really big on details. When something doesn’t look how I thought it should, it gets mostly erased and I start over again. I just don’t like it when things don’t look the way they do in my head.
Sometimes I draw dreams and stuff. It’s quite fun.
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I like painting with oils. I don’t personally own any currently..I have to go get some. I have arcrylic paints, but I think oils are easier to work with.
I like to paint outdoor scenes…I painted a tree in the moonlight a few months ago. I’ve done indoor still-life stuff, but I found it a bit dull.
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55 – Yes, do send it in!
57 – That tree in the moonlight sounds really cool.
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Do you know what I’m doing? In high school, my practical arts requirement is going to be Tech Lab. In case you thought I was one of those artsy rebellious kids–well, you were wrong. I’m a sadly introverted A-class geek, who reads Wodehouse not Ginsberg and can quote Ovid not the Shins. Okay?
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OK, my current favourite artists :
1. Most of the 17th century Dutch school, especially Jan van Os, who mainly did still ife with lots of flowers. You can FEEL those flowers, and he’s utterly brilliant.
2. Benjamin William Leader.
3. The team who did Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion. Forget galleries of modern art, which are worthless repositories of pretension, full of self-indulgent and largely meaningless “statements”. Great art is mainly about absolute technical mastery of a medium, and computer graphics are where most of the real artists are working nowadays. Given a fast graphics card, the scenery in Oblivion stands up against the best of the Dutch school, except that you can walk through it. It’s breathtaking.
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60: The elder scrolls team is awesome. I’m taking you play Oblivion, up for a revival discussion in a video game thread?
How about the Gothic 3 team?
My favourite artist is probably HR Giger.
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(60) I agree there’s some astonishing computer graphics work out there. The most consistently impressive seems to come from Russia and eastern Europe. If my stuff ever gets to be half as good, I’ll be ecstatic.
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What I love about Oblivion is the entirely gratuitous artistry that’s put in even where it isn’t entirely necessary. Candlelight, for instance. A candle flame doesn’t need to flicker to be convincing, but the Oblivion ones do. Just very slightly, like a real one, and the light on the wall behind it responds appropriately. That must be horrendously difficult to do, but they do it because they can.
It reminds me of a painting by van Hals (I think) in Cardiff art gallery. It’s of an old soldier, now retired. You can see age and infirmity etched on his face, and you instantly like the old guy. It’s a great painting, but the final touch is just genius. One tiny fleck of pure white – just one brush stroke – and he makes his eyes water. It ramps up the pathos and makes the pinting perfect. Most painters would have spent hours trying to get that effect, but the master did it with one flick of the brush. And then gloated unmercifully, no doubt.
Oh, er – yes. I do play Oblivion. Obsessively. Targil, my High Elf, is now Archmage, Champion of Cyrodiil, and Hero of Kvatch (of course). The Obivion crisis is over, and he’s now spending his time sorting out the Blackwood Company, chasing goblins out of caves, and sipping Tamika’s best vintage in the comfort of Rosethorn Hall.
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63: I had an Argonian, Champion of the Arena, Master Thief, Master Assassin, finished the Oblivion crisis with all those portals, got some rare armor and weapons, got thrown out of the mages guild, but hey, I’m master assassin! Had a house in every city and a bunch of horses… But now that my computer’s screwed I have to wait a few months till a new one, when I shall purchase Knights of The Nine!!!!
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Whenever i get a new video game, the first thing i do is carefully remove the manual from the case. Not to read it, as would be wise and would keep me from killing myself multiple times before learning the controls, but to gaze upon the glorious illustrations and drool.
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Skipper, Organized Mime Syndicate is a movie production company and a corporation since 2005. Make sure you don’t infringe their trademark of the tough mime logo by having your cartoon published with their name as caption.
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66 huh?
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Sorry. I was referring to Skipper Nancy’s comment #55, above.
I love art. My favorite artists: Da Vinci, Botticelli, Andy Goldsworthy. I also like Kiki Smith.
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1- I have other favorite artists, but can’t think of them because one of my dad’s old friends just walked in. I must whizz into the living room, radiating gaiety.
I like stuff from the Impressionism Era, if you can call it that, for the most part.
I’ve always wanted to take art classes, because I’m not very good at art type stuff. I’ve always wished I could draw people well…but I can’t.
Technically, I should practice sometimes. I might have to suck it up and teach myself one of these times.
Art? Well thats not nearly a general enough topic.*Groan* Sorry, I’m just sort of annoyed by too little instruction lately.
I love ceramics. Working with your hands, you can just lose yourself completly focusing on your creation. My favorite artists? Jackson Pollock. Ruth Duckworth. And many many more.
I love colors. And shading. Brett Helquist is brilliant at that, but I really would like to work with oil pastels. But sometimes with my work, color would ruin it…Well at least with my horrible coloring skills >
Do it. Look at it. Admire it. Love it.
Whoooo, thank you, GAPAs!
Favourite artist ever = Salvador DalÃ. He was a genius, a maniac, a surrealist, and an all around frood.
4- Does your town/city have a sort of art league? I’m not very good at realistic people…cartoony or twistedly cool, yes, but realism eludes me.
So. Who else loooooves oil paints? They pwn. Because you can put the paint on really thick and mix the colours on the canvas/board/whatever, and they take ages to dry, so you can modify them for about a day until it gets sticky and filmy…fun times. And the texture is just too cool. I love doing things with different brushes and strokes for texture….I’ll paint with anything. Including my hands and hair. The latter wasn’t the brightest idea…
And pencil sketching. Because it’s quick and fun.
Can anyone here do that really cool ballpointing thing? Ahh, I’ve seen people on devART who do just that, and it always looks amazing. Impossibly so. I can’t manage it.
*meanders off to dinner, still gushing*
5 ~ Well, it leaves more room for us to start discussion on what we’re interested in, I guess.
5 – are you kidding?!? Art is a hugely broad topic. I go to an arts school, and there are lots of arts in the school, including writing (yes, it is an art), Instrumental music, (yes, it is an art), Vocal, (yes, it is an art), Theater, (yes, it is an art), Musical Theater, (yes, it is an art), and Visual Arts
8 ~ Dali is awesome. I did a project on him for Spanish class. It was really fun.
We don’t have anything like that that I know of.
Looking at random stuff on DeviantArt can be really fun.
10 ~ I read that as sarcasm.
Your school sounds amazing. I’m moving to Pittsburgh or something. xD
7- Good idea. But I don’t know how I’m going to love it after I look at it. sigh.
6. Art is awesome like Nancy Kangas
8- Ooo ooo ooo!! DalÃ! Melting… clock… melting..
I saw this great exhibit on him in a Parisian museum- really astounding. I love his moustache.
I’ve never painted with oils, but I love acrylics. I love slapping on with the palette knife for the background and then getting detailed with a brush for the foreground. I did a self portrait over the summer in acrylics. The background has this choppy texture. It’s subtly gradated grays, and then there’s my big head with wind-swept hair in front, just turning to look at you.
But my favorite is just plain pencil. I start with an H, then somehow end up with a B9. That’s usually how it goes. Oh, I was recently copying a Raphael (I had hardly any idea he did stuff in pencil, but it was just about the most fun copy I’ve ever done) and the B9 really came in handy. The picture was the head of a youth with his hand pointing. It was a study; the hand wasn’t actually connected to anything. The youth had incredible curls that I had a small skirmish with. They almost looked like water. I was quite impressed.
I LOVE this thread! I could rant FOREVER!! But I should stop now.
I just have to say this: my school is really cool, but next year I’m going to be able to continue only two of the four arts: dance, visual arts, music, or theater. I can eliminate dance because I do modern outside of school, but I DON”T KNOW WHAT to not do of the other three. I love them all, and have absolutely NO MORE TIME outside of school to squeeze something else in. What would you guys choose?
Ah, art! Yay! I like drawing, and colored pencils are good. Is this like the Visual Arts thread, or just all art in general?
Oh, I forgot this.
3- I used to be OBSESSED with Monet. REALLY obsessed. But now… I’m over it. I’ve gone Renaissance, except for Pollock, Smith, and Goldsworthy. Do you like Monet? I went to Giverny, and of course it had to rain (this was years ago) but it was very very cool. Just standing on the bridge…
3: Yeah, Impressionism is one of my favourites too. I really like Monet’s art.
8: …Surrealism’s another one of my favourites. I haven’t seen much of Dali’s art, but I like the melting watches painting.
10: You’re right. I guess I can say that I know a lot more about theater and music than I do about painting and whatnot.
I don’t draw/paint. I do a lot of crafty things, though. I’m really into designing clothes (although I really suck when it comes to making sketches of my ideas).
14 ~ Wow, that’s harsh. I would probably pick theater and music, but it would be tough. It’s just that I suck at drawing and stuff, so I’d probably stick with what I’m a little better at. It sounds like you’re a really good artist, though.
Does theater include musical theater? That could be a compromise…
18- Thank you for the compliment. No, theater is just delivering speeches, acting, pantomime, all that. I just DON’T know what to do.
BTW, the more famous of the melting clocks paintings is called La Persistencia de Memoria (the persistance of memory). I did a project on him for spanish, and I totally agree that he was a very froody dude. Some of his quotes are hilarious, and his paintings are amazing (albeit they can be scary)
Who has DEVart? I’m getting it next year… I’ll tell you the URL when I get it…
8- aaah! I love Dalà and surrealism. Pretty much anything surreal or whimsical.
17- yeah, I really like drawing though. I can draw allright, I just don’t do it enough to have it look fancy. I like my drawings, though. I write some, though mainly poetry and I only started doing that this summer-ish. I bead a lot, mainly making myself earings. Today I modified my t-shirt but I haven’t sewn it yet. I’m mainly a theatre person, though. I’ve done theatre for years. I’m a stage crew person mainly. And I ocassionally play my violin, though I don’t take lessons. I used to but my parents made me switch to piano which I don’t take lessons for either. —— in visual arts, I’d mainly draw with pen (especially those brush pen things, like the pen that has a felt-ish tip that’s sort of like a brush) or pastels. I like doing it on my own but I’m not really an expert. with writing, I only recently discovered that i liked to write in anything other than a journal. I really love writing poetry now. I like coming up with ideas for stories but I’m worse at getting those onto paper. I can capture things in poetry, though.
oh, new theatre thread? please?
Great art book(s)= Chasing Vermeer + The Wright 3. They are Muse-worthy and completely FLAMABLAMABLOUS!!
23- There are so many coincidences, though. It sort of bothered me. But they were good.
22- I love poetry, too! To write and read. I discovered the haiku two years ago and have been writing them and other kinds ever since. I think it really depends on the image for haiku.
Awhile go I saw this really interesting Video Art at some museum. There was a head-shaped lumpish thing and a vidoe camera was projecting moving faces onto it. It was really fun to watch!
I really enjoy art. Next semester I’m taking Art as an elective. Last year’s big project was making paper-mache masks, and I made a really pretty wolf which is now hanging on my bedroom wall. I don’t know if anyone here would consider calligraphy as an art, but that’s another thing I enjoy doing. I also sketch in my free time and do origami.
I like art class. I’m the only one who respects the art teacher. some times the guys steal his altoids, melt crayons in the microwave or have a clay war.
I love art, especially visual art and instrumental music. This is kind of off topic, but in orchestra today we got the Pirates of the Carribean music. It is AWESOME!!!!!!
Anyway… in elementary school I had a really awesome art teacher. I swear she could draw a perfect circle on the chalkboard while talking to the class and not looking. (I’ve seen her do it.) We made all sorts of cool projects in her class, the least of which was a clay house.
22: Theatre pwns. I’ve never been in stage crew, but I’d like to someday.
I think writing plays sounds really neat. I started writing a musical a few weeks ago (with some friends)…It’s coming along, slowly yet surely.
23: I’ve wanted to read Chasing Vermeer. Can it be compared to S of UE (I think the same person who illustrates S of UE illustrated CV), or is it really different?
11 – no, that wasn’t sarcasm at all. really.
27 ~ We did Pirates of the Carribean for the pops concert last year. It rocked, but the orchestra teacher cut out the awesome cello part because only two of us could play it well. -cellist- Today we got I’m a Believer for this year’s pops concert, and it has an awesome cello melody in it. So cool
23- is the other one by the same author as chasing vermeer? If it is, I should read it!
24- go to the poems and songs thread!
28- if you join stage crew you get to do fun things like cary heavy stuff (that you also made) around and go on the cat walk and go on the roof. (in my school anyways) It’s awesome.
Monet! Monet is cool. I love his pictures of lillys.
Where oh where is Rebecca Lasley? She was a frequent visitor to the other thread.
I read Chasing V and the Wright 3. They were okay, if below my reading level. I love to look in the pictures and find the hidden bits.
Jadestone, when this thread started I was driving down the interstate from DC to NC after an unexpectedly long stay, and today I’m mostly trying — not always successfully — to keep from falling asleep as I recover from Christmas “vacation” and race to meet a deadline. Well, “race” as in ” stumble along half zombified.”
What is it about Monet, do you suppose, that appeals to people so much?
25- Calligraphy is an art. Did you know it comes from the ancient greek words kalos and graphe (it’s written in another alphabet, but those are the words in the roman alphabet) which mean beautiful and writing?
26- That’s terrible! Do they do it in a mean way?
30- I’m a celloist, too.
33- I think it’s the brushstrokes. They have so much energy. And his colors.
The only art that I am good at is pottery and ceramics. I can’t draw very well at all.
Thanks GAPAs for the shiny art thread! I’ve been wanting one for ages!
(1) I love Andy Goldsworthy! I have one of his books- Time– it’s amazing! It’s so…fresh looking. Whenever I look at his art, I feel like I’m looking at another world, where everything is natural, yet purposeful, not random the way nature normally is. It’s relaxing and creepy at the same time.
(3) Skipper’s Incredibly long rant on Impressionism
I’m just finishing a 3 month long independent study on Impressionsim. I love it!!!! OK, that was a little over-eager I know, but the reason I’m so into it is that well, Impressionism is basically the basis for all modern art. I mean, before it, the art world was ruled by strict exhibitions and academies that had very fixed and conventional ideas on what was acceptable and what was not. Only classical stuff, which was really theatrical and stiff, and usually had sometiype of dramatic biblical/historical/theatrical story attatched to it was accepted. And then the Impressionists came along and BAM- they broke all the rules. And lots of people hated them at first, but after the movement ended, the art world was changed, and their ideas led to all the stuff that was see now- abstractionism and such. Plus their paintings were amazing.
I went to a whole big exhibit on Pissarro in Sydney last year, and then I got to see lots of Monet, Manet and Degas in the Met museum when I went to NY over thanksgiving break, and GEEZ!! It’s like- it’s like the captured light, movement, everything- it’s not frozen in the painting, it’s living in the painting.
For the presentation part of my project I tried doing my own impressionist paintings. It’s hard! But really fun. I did one of the view from my window-that one was ok, but not enough light or scenery- and one outside, en plein aire: the view of the mountains from my front yard. I really was happy with the way it turned out.
See, the desert is great for painting because there’s so many colors and textures. You’ve got the bushy light green trees, and the tall, pointy saguaro cacti, and the purple prickly pear and cholla cacti, and the yellow tips of palo verde trees, and the red dirt and such. Plus the moutains- I love my moutains. The catch the light and change colors with the day, and the tips are broken and complicated, fingers pointing upward.
Anyway,this project has been great because it’s forced me to paint lots, and think about painting in a way I never did before.
(8) No, I’ve only painted in acrylic. I know, that doesn’t make much sense, since proper impressionist painting is done in oils…but I’ve never had the chance to try, and I’m kind of intimidated by the turpentine and such… but I want to try them sometime anway.
(14) That’s cool. I wish I were better with pencil- I tend to get too tight and line-y, and all my people look the same (and they all look like me). But curls that look like water sound pretty cool!
I know your dilemma. I haven’t taken art in school since 5th grade (I’m now in 9th) because I’m in band, and in my school system, you can’t do both. I could, theoretically, now that I’m in high school, but really, I don’t have room in my schedual. So i have o be content with painting on my own and the occasional weekend art class.
Here’s the question you have to ask yourself: which class will be the best? You already know that you love all the topics equally, but sometimes one class is done better than another (like if one has a really good teacher or curriculum or something). In my experience, my school doesn’t have very good art classes, so I’ve always taken band, even though I;m better at art than music. So which class do think will have the better teacher/ curriculcum/ etc? You might now know, in which case this won’t be much help, but that’s my advice.
(25) Of course caligraphy is an art! Definately! I love arabic calligraphy in particular. My mum studies Islamic art, so we have lots of books with really beautiful prints of all this writing that’ has been turned into amazing works of art.
Here’s a quote from Monet that I think describes him and his work pretty well:
“I want to paint the air which surrounds the bridge, the house, the boat, the beauty of the air in which these objects are located, and that is nothing short of impossible.â€
(sorry about this uber-long post)
I love Andy Goldsworthy! When we went to this environmental learning center in 7th and 8th grade, we got to do Andy Goldsworthy projects. They were really fun to make! And THF and I always do them when we go camping.
I am a cartoonist! Does that count?
11- Seriously cool! So did I!
Oh, well.
There’s this really awesome lady in a town near mine who has art instruction classes; I’ve been going to her studio since I and two of my friends signed up in sixth grade. She’s very cool…mostly, she helps the younger kids out and encourages and offers advice to the more experienced people there. ‘t is fun. I met another kid at her place who did NaNoWriMo; pretty much everyone there is a frood. HEART that place.
14- If I were a man, I’d totally have his mustache. He’s way cool. The Persistence of Memory is the painting most commonly associated with his soft watches, but they appear in others….like The Disintegration of the Persistence of Memory. I also love The Hallucinogenic Toreador!!!! Check out that portrait of Mae West, too! And Apparition of the Visage of Aphrodite of Cnidos in a Landscape…I could go on and on…. The various pictures of Gala as Madonna are sweet, too.
Pallet knives pwn.
20- *sigh* Amazing indeed. I tried to keep my suggestions G-rated…. Most of his pictures are so astoundingly realistic. Yet so twisted. Paranoiac-critical method, w00t.
21- I do. [ahem. snip! –Admin.]
22- Yay, poetry. If I have a story I can’t really write, I’ll draw it out. Or just write out random important plot points to work out later…
26- Bloody adolescent boys… Is your art teacher good? I hate when people disrespect good teachers…
36- Turpentine isn’t that bad. It just smells and makes your hands feel weird if you get it on yourself. Some sorts of that and paint thinner from hardware/home improvement stores usually work just as well as the teeny jars in arts/crafts stores…..
About two weeks until SM gets art with the new semester. w00tness to the extreme. I hope…..
39) I’ve seen yours. You have a lot of photos on it.
(38) Sure that counts. What type of cartooning do you do?
(39) OK. I will try oils some time, when I get the chance.
The studio you describe sounds a lot like this artists co-operative that I sometimes take classes at. it’s down in the old, artsy center of town and is full of cool people and interesting stuff.
hmm.. do all of the arts count? what about music? dance? those are arts as well. Are does not have to be on a page (or canvas or whatever you are using) not that all drawign, painting cartoonign excetra are not wonderfull!!!
soon i get to go to an exibit on van gough!
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I’m really good at appreciating art. Seriously. I happen to be trained in classical analyzation, and I’m good at symbols and visual metaphors, especially in classical and sometimes in modern art. But I can’t create it to save my pathetic excuse for a life. I like mobiles (my father does too) and one of my favorite artists is Benjamin Chee Chee. He likes John Singer-Sargent.
Frank Lloyd Wright is overrated. I’ve never really been a fan of Monet. Or Degas. I couldn’t tell you why, but it never really spoke to me. I like pontilism, and I like pictures of boats, especially sail boats.
I am a cartoonist. Not professionally of course. All the good ideas are taken already, so I write about my friends and I.
43) Van Gogh’s life was a very sad one, wasn’t it? Or have you not learned about it? I suggest you do if you haven’t.
Especially the way he died. Suicide. He shot ‘imself, and it took him SEVERAL STINKIN’ DAYS TO DIE!
You would think if you were going to kill yourself you would want to do so quickly.
But I wouldn’t know, as I don’t want to kill myself……
Van Gogh was good. But I really like M.C. Escher and Claude Monet. They so rule. Also Mary Cassatt was great.
M. C. Escher is really cool. I like M. C. Escher puzzles. They’re hard but satisfying.
Van Gogh had a mental break down, mutilated his ear, then spent a few months in a rehab sort of thing. Then he shot himself in a feild where he had once painted crows. Very sad life. But interesting work.
(44 Queenie) Cool! I’m not as interested in classical art, but visual metaphors and such are good. Do youl know/like Gaugin? His stuff is very readable. Too readable for me, I’m actually not such a fan. The thing about Monet and Degas is that they aren’t readble- they don’t tell a story. It’s just about catching a moment and immortalizing it, so that the beauty is contained on the canvas, and never dies. Where as classic art- it’s never a painting of something a real moment (even if it’s based on a true stroy, it still came from the artist’s head).
What about composition, though? Lots of people think analyzing art is just about trying to figure out what the artist was trying to say, but I prefer to look at what they did, because sometimes the artist is saying anything specific. Instead of asking the questions, what does this painting mean, or what does it symbolize, sometimes it’s fun to just say, how does the color work here, where do the lines intersect, how does the placement of that obejct fit in with the rest of the painting. Those are the questions I like to think about when I look at art. Which is probably why Impressionism appeals to me, (for example) Monet had a brilliant use of color, and Degas could capture movement like no other- and the angles and positions in his paintings are clever and dynamic. But they never really used symbolism or metaphors.
Poiltilism is great. There’s a section of a huge pointilist mural pf the Grand Canyon at my city’s art museum. It’s only part of the original, but it’s still huge. It shows the canyon at all hours of the day and the colors are fantastic. I have fun looking at it really closely, then backing up.
MC Escher is fantastic, like algebra in art form.
I took an art class this year. Unfortunately, it’s over now and i have gym. Near the end of the class, we learned about the psychological effects of various colors. Did you know that the color yellow makes old people stumble and fall? Yes, apparently one’s tolerance for yellow lessens as one ages. Also, a green bedroom can make babies calmer. I don’t know how many (if any) of those things are true, but all of them were pretty ridiculous. And pretty much every color was supposed to have some sort of sexual power. So there’s your random and dubious facts for today. I love Escher.
49-Artistic decisions hold little interest for me–maybe because I can’t interpret them because I’m not artistic. Sometimes I’ll look at a painting and think, “It’s about ____” and then I’ll look at it again and realize that it’s actually about something else because the one object is in dark and the other object is in light. Composition is important–if you mentally re-orient a painting, and move things, it looks different and has a different sort of mood. I have to change things to understand them with that. Does that make sense?
(51) Yeah! I’m glad you knew what I was talking about. Sometimes when I go into a rant about artistic composition people just end up mumbling and looking away in disgust or confusion. But I like what you said about re-arranging things- that describes it perfectly. It’s cool to be able to understand art like that.
(50) Really? Hehe. Cool. I wonder what bunny hot-pink does to the brain…
50: cool. Our class went on an art walk to visit various galleries, and one had this wierd neon stains on canvas that were litererally painful to look at, they were so bright. They were sort of fuzzed around the edges, which made you blink to make sure your eyes were still good, and you wanted to look at them, even though they hurt your eyes.
Hot pink makes people go insane. And yet, it is addictive. Sometimes when i’m painting/drawing something, i’ll spend upwards of half an hour mentally placing an object in the picture in one place…then another place…and another, trying to decide where it should go. Of course, as soon as i finalize my desicion, it becomes exceedingly obvious that it should have gone in one of the other places.
(54) Yeah, that is so frusterating. It’s hard to know where to put stuff.
Tee-hee. I just drew a cartoon. It has three mimes in it. The one in the center is sinister lookin, tall and skinny. The ones on each side are big, brutish and neckless, and are cracking there knuckles. The one in the middle has his fingertips placed together as if plotting something devious. The caption is “Organized Mime Syndicate”.
I think I should send it to the New Yorker, whadya say?
I don’t have trouble organizing stuff, but I’m really big on details. When something doesn’t look how I thought it should, it gets mostly erased and I start over again. I just don’t like it when things don’t look the way they do in my head.
Sometimes I draw dreams and stuff. It’s quite fun.
I like painting with oils. I don’t personally own any currently..I have to go get some. I have arcrylic paints, but I think oils are easier to work with.
I like to paint outdoor scenes…I painted a tree in the moonlight a few months ago. I’ve done indoor still-life stuff, but I found it a bit dull.
55 – Yes, do send it in!
57 – That tree in the moonlight sounds really cool.
Do you know what I’m doing? In high school, my practical arts requirement is going to be Tech Lab. In case you thought I was one of those artsy rebellious kids–well, you were wrong. I’m a sadly introverted A-class geek, who reads Wodehouse not Ginsberg and can quote Ovid not the Shins. Okay?
OK, my current favourite artists :
1. Most of the 17th century Dutch school, especially Jan van Os, who mainly did still ife with lots of flowers. You can FEEL those flowers, and he’s utterly brilliant.
2. Benjamin William Leader.
3. The team who did Elder Scrolls IV : Oblivion. Forget galleries of modern art, which are worthless repositories of pretension, full of self-indulgent and largely meaningless “statements”. Great art is mainly about absolute technical mastery of a medium, and computer graphics are where most of the real artists are working nowadays. Given a fast graphics card, the scenery in Oblivion stands up against the best of the Dutch school, except that you can walk through it. It’s breathtaking.
60: The elder scrolls team is awesome. I’m taking you play Oblivion, up for a revival discussion in a video game thread?
How about the Gothic 3 team?
My favourite artist is probably HR Giger.
(60) I agree there’s some astonishing computer graphics work out there. The most consistently impressive seems to come from Russia and eastern Europe. If my stuff ever gets to be half as good, I’ll be ecstatic.
What I love about Oblivion is the entirely gratuitous artistry that’s put in even where it isn’t entirely necessary. Candlelight, for instance. A candle flame doesn’t need to flicker to be convincing, but the Oblivion ones do. Just very slightly, like a real one, and the light on the wall behind it responds appropriately. That must be horrendously difficult to do, but they do it because they can.
It reminds me of a painting by van Hals (I think) in Cardiff art gallery. It’s of an old soldier, now retired. You can see age and infirmity etched on his face, and you instantly like the old guy. It’s a great painting, but the final touch is just genius. One tiny fleck of pure white – just one brush stroke – and he makes his eyes water. It ramps up the pathos and makes the pinting perfect. Most painters would have spent hours trying to get that effect, but the master did it with one flick of the brush. And then gloated unmercifully, no doubt.
Oh, er – yes. I do play Oblivion. Obsessively. Targil, my High Elf, is now Archmage, Champion of Cyrodiil, and Hero of Kvatch (of course). The Obivion crisis is over, and he’s now spending his time sorting out the Blackwood Company, chasing goblins out of caves, and sipping Tamika’s best vintage in the comfort of Rosethorn Hall.
63: I had an Argonian, Champion of the Arena, Master Thief, Master Assassin, finished the Oblivion crisis with all those portals, got some rare armor and weapons, got thrown out of the mages guild, but hey, I’m master assassin! Had a house in every city and a bunch of horses… But now that my computer’s screwed I have to wait a few months till a new one, when I shall purchase Knights of The Nine!!!!
Whenever i get a new video game, the first thing i do is carefully remove the manual from the case. Not to read it, as would be wise and would keep me from killing myself multiple times before learning the controls, but to gaze upon the glorious illustrations and drool.
Skipper, Organized Mime Syndicate is a movie production company and a corporation since 2005. Make sure you don’t infringe their trademark of the tough mime logo by having your cartoon published with their name as caption.
66 huh?
Sorry. I was referring to Skipper Nancy’s comment #55, above.
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