Books and Reading, Part 6
Continued from Books and Reading, Part 5.
Date: October 24, 2007
Categories: The Universe, Things We like
Saturday, 18 May 2024
Life, the universe, pies, hot-pink bunnies, world domination, and everything
Continued from Books and Reading, Part 5.
Date: October 24, 2007
Categories: The Universe, Things We like
YAY MAXIMUM RIDE!!!
I wanna read that series by Orson Scott Card about the alternate America. BUT I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT’S CALLED. D’oh!
1- Alternate America? Is that alternate history? I love AH, but I haven’t read much and writing it is near impossible. Too much research.
YAYMAXIMUMRIDEexclamationpoints
I am reading the third book again. I’m at the part where they are going thru germany and max tells them not to leave their socks lying around.
1- It’s called the Tales of Alvin Maker. Looks interesting.
Stranger in a Strange Land. Heinlein.
Everyone should read “Twilight” by Stepheni Meyer. It’s NOT just a girl book. It’s good!
Someplace to be Flying by Charles de Lint.
^- are you TMFA? or are you someone else?
anyways, currently i am rweading the awakening and other stories by kate chopin. it’s really good. really old but really good. i suggest people like me to read it. and others if they want to.
1- Oh, that does sound good.
3- As I have previously stated (although in a somewhat less blunt manner), MR is not rave-worthy by a long shot. You want a good, fast page-turner? Read Prey by Michael Critchon. I stayed up ’til 4 am reading that.
6- Mm, yes, it is rather good isn’t it? My darling sister is absolutely OBSESSED with the whole series though… I think she’s read them all about ten times. Yeesh.
List of books/authors everyone should read:
First and foremost, Wicked by Gregory Maguire (actually, anything by him is quite rave-worthy).
Second, anything by Shakespeare. I ♥ Shakespeare.
Third, The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis.
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6- Thank you. I have been trying to covince some of my guyfriends (NOT boyfriends) to read it, and they laughed and laughed and laughed when I said it was a vampire romance. even my galpals said that!
9- I need to meet your sister.
Now I’m at the part where Max and Omega are racing!
6-i just read that. it is SO GOOD. i was half expecting to hate it, it being YA and all, but it was so well-written. and it was so much better reading it in the middle of the night too
6 – I love that series, appearently I’m one of the only girls at my school who actually has Eclipse, so there’s a waiting list of my friends who want to read it.
9 – I’ve heard Maximum Ride is a story with excellent characters and a horrible plot. I haven’t read it, though. Do you agree?
1 – I love Orson Scott Card!!! Ender’s Game!!!!!!! I don’t remember what that book’s called, but I know what you’re talking about.
Sleeping Freshmen never lie is a great book. lt’s great for boys, who it’s made for, but girls who read it will learn that “the worst she can say is no” is a ridiculous statement.
6 + 11 ~ I wasn’t expecting to like it either (my mom got it for me for Christmas last year). I thought it seemed a bit trashy. Like “OMG IM IN LUV WIT VAMPYRE -FANGIRL SQUEAL-” But I really loved it and the next two books were great too. Of course, I made the terrible mistake of lending them to Erica who is now head over heels in love with Edward, god save us all. She’s driving me insane.
10 ~ One of my guy friends is a fan too.
9 ~ Wicked was amazing. ‘Nuff said.
Right now I’m reading Lord of the Flies for school. I love it. I think most people expect it to be too stuffy and more like “The Hachet” or other survival books, but it really isn’t.
Outside of school I’m reading The Virgins Suicides. And I still need to finish Dracula…
My locker looks like a library. I currently have in it:
JS&MN
10 of the 12 Swallows and Amazons books
The Golden Compass
The Amber Spyglass
The Dulcimer Boy
My health textbook, my science binder, and a bag with a raincoat in it.
Oh, I have to go.
I feel so distant from the Blog now. *waves handkerchief forlornly* Remember me!
10- Ah, no, trust me, you don’t want to meet my sister. Heck, she even scares me, and I’ve known her for all 12 years of her existence. Her obituary will read: “…expired in a merciful accident yesterday, which released her from years of painful mental illness…” and so on.
12- Mm… sounds about right.
14- Yes, I agree. W/ Wicked and Twilight.
15- I love Lord of the Flies! And I started Dracula… but it was overdue and mom thought I was finished and I never got around to checking it out again. Sigh.
16- ‘Course we’ll remember you!
13- YES! that book is awesome! Hooray!
16- I’ve been missing you too! Hang in there!
re: Twilight: It’s okay. All my friends are raging fangirls and go on forever about how awesome it is, which sort of dampens the appeal. The writing is okay, and she does know how to do page-turners, but the characters…ARGLE BARGLE BARGLE I HATE ALL OF THEM.
I’m going to get stoned now, aren’t I?
NOT THAT KIND. As in pelted with large painful rocks or small painful rocks. K-thx-bai.
9- I love the Screwtape letters.
Kiara- OMG MAXRIDE DOES NOT HAVE A HORRIBLE PLOT it’s just original.
Alice- How can you be reading th amber spyglass and the golden compass at the same time??? That would drive me INSANE. Yes i miss you very much.
OK, me and my friends arre all OBSESSED w. Twilight+new moon+eclipse, right? So, we have this plan; when Breaking Dawn comes out, we r all gonna carpool to the midnight release, dressed up. So, at school, EVERY DAY [nojoke] when i get there, Sara sez ‘Bookstore’, olivia sez ‘Carpool’, I say, ‘Midight,’ We all look at each other, and scream ‘EDWARDexclamationpoints’ at the top of our lungs and jump up and down, squealing hyperactively. Then we pause, say ‘Jacob… BOOOOOOO’ w. thumbs down. If we break the tradition, Jasper will die. [a spiritual message in the form of Bart Simpson told Sara].
21-…
ellipses are the only way to deal with such extraordinary traditions. oh well
I have read all of the eclipse sereis, after having them forced upon me. i prefer the third one. Her writing style got a lot better throughout the books. My locker looked like a library last year. At the end of the year I had Scorpia, Point Blank, The Amber Spyglass, Eragon, Any one of the Harry Potter books, and the Akenhatten (total spelling errors) Adventure. Now I have less because I’ve started high school, but I’m still reading. I read of Mice and Men for english, and it was OK.
19- lololol @ book fangirls
my friend is giving me Running With Scissors this weekend or on Monday. Also I finished Lord of th Flies and it was brilliant.
Has anyone read the Great Gatsby? Is it good? I am debating. I love J.D.Salinger’s writing style, but I haven’t gotten to finish Catcher in the Rye.
Some more excerpts from
Destined for Destiny – The Unauthorized Autobiography of George W. Bush
Chapter 14
2004: Another Mandate
First of all, the democrats tried to find a candidate to oppose me. Laws had been put in place, I believed, which made such actions illegal. But oppose me they did, even in the face of possible internment, at The Guantanamo Bay holding facility.
[And later]
First off, the democrats ignored, the central issue of this election. The raw terror we faced on 9/11. Then, they tried to find a candidate who they thought had the best chance of winning. But they could not find one. Despite these initial failures, they did not give up their fight. They turned to dark forces, and created a candidate, using perverted science. The man was named John Kerry. He was a monstrosity. A combination of the living matter, of many different candidates. He had the tall lanky torso of Abe Lincoln, and the brain of my previous opponet, Al Gore. He also had Michal Ducagus’s hair, Walter Mondale’s charm, and the sqare jaw of Hermen Munster the great democratic president, of the 1960s.
That’s all for now.
Oh, just to keep it authentic, I forgot one little passage in the second excerpt.
After ‘But they could not find one’
Many opponets emerged from their opponety enclaves. There was, a funny black man. A screaming man. A very old man. And a very small man, who appeared, to be a troll of some kind. They were all eliminated by infighting, and by the good laws on the books, which keep such people, out of public office.
25 (LH)- SCREW TWILIGHT, I FANGIRL THE GREAT GATSBY
In other words, read it.
28- hehe.
Eight words: Someplace to be Flying by Charles de Lint!
16-What’s the dulcimer boy? I didn’t think there were a lot of books about dulcimers….
About Twilight…..basically everyone I know has read it, and has been telling me I should. I figured it must be a really great book, since so many people I know liked it, and many of them were people whose taste in books I would definitely trust. So I went and bouhgt Twilight…and reading the back cover, it looks like a horrid typical teen romance thing that i would hate. are all my friends insane (well ok, i know they are), or is the book just way way way better than the back cover makes it look?
re: Twilight: Anyone else notice that Mutts (a comic strip, for the unenelightened) is running what appears to be a parody of Twilight?
21- I’m not reading them at the same time. They’re just in my locker because it’s preferable to the other options, which are:
the car
the storage unit
the other house
30- The Dulcimer Boy is a really really short and kind of unexciting book about a boy who lives with his horrible extended family and his mute twin brother. He was given to his uncle in a basket with a dulcimer and his brother when he was really little. Eventually the family tries to sell the dulcimer so William (the boy) runs away with it and discovers his hidden talent, father, etc. It was okay.
The Wolving Time. It is good.
i am very anoyed with books right now. all the books i’ve taken out of the library are crap. they’re all about stupid little girls who fall for the hot guy who also happens to be the wrong guy. why can’t they write any good books anymore??????? anger anger anger. literature is- actualy i can’t express how i feel on the blog-anoying me to no extent. even my usual pick-me up comics aren’t working. and creating comics is taking so much time=hurting my back. meh. angry at the world.
I’m in the middle of “Twilight.”
It’s very, very good. I highly recommend it.
1- Xenocide? Speaker for the Dead? Are you sure it’s in the Ender series not the Bean series?
31- Yeah, I noticed that.
DASGDAFAS
Young Wizards!!! omggreatbook
36- Those are quite good. And for anyone who says “ZOMGHPRIPOFFFDONOTREAD-” completely inaccurate. The first book was published before J. K. Rowling had even started composing her own work.
35- It’s not in that universe at all. Google Alvin Maker.
(21)-Nobody likes werewolves. *sigh*
I am obsessed with shape shifters though, so no hate. Amelia Atwater-Rodes wrote an interesting series about them that sound right up your alley, MS. I recommend them to everybody else too.
And yes I did notice that Mutts comic. I was wondering if anybody else had noticed.
21- Noooo, Jasper!!
39- I don’t mind Jacob, but I’d still pick Edward instead. One of my friends said she’d choose Jacob, though.
Haha Twilight is such a chick flick on paper. The first one caught me at *exactly* the time I really wanted a book like that, though.
39- The one with Danica?
31- I JUST saw a “Mutts” strip, and it is an INSULT to “Twilight”. It’s not even funny!
Who’s read “Eragon”?
We had an Eragon thread last year, but not all of the people who posted on it are here now:
https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=622
I don’t like Eragon because it’s so clichè. I don’t want to sound mean, but it really doesn’t have a plot. I thought it was cool when i was 11.
44, 46- i just finished reading it for English(as required free reading ) and it is horribly clichéd. The plot is basically the same as a million other fantasy books out there.
Eragon is incredibly similar to about every single sci-fi/fantasy book in the world! Replace every character with someone from, say, Star Wars. Eragon becomes Luke. Saphira becomes Luke’s powers. Galbatorix becomes Darth Vader (or the Emperor). Now, read maybe a plot summary, and replace all instances of the aforementioned words with their counterparts. Seems kinda familiar, huh?
Eragon is certainly a rant-worthy book. However I will spare you because I have to leave in a couple minutes, at which point I will only just be getting into stride. Sigh…
People who say Eragon is awful are rant-worthy, but l’ll spare you.
35-xkcd!
39-i do! although i like vampires more (and did before twilight, thank you)
Yes, eragon’s a horrible book, we know. i’m not feeling very ranty right now…
meh, off to play frisbee, possibly
45-Thanks, Robert Coontz. Ichecked out the link and on the noobie thread when Ifirst started blogging they thought someone had used the name eragon before. There was. In January there was a eragon101.
hehehe, n00bies r posting here (pies all)
I didn’t like Eragon, and actually didn’t finish it. It was ok for the first hundred pages, and just kinda went down from there. Sorry to anyone who likes it.. *pies eragon* A good dragon book is “Dragon Rider”!!
50- So I could rant about the book, then you could retaliate with a rant about ME, and so on…
52- *pies with specially made n00b pies*
ERAGON ERAGON ERAGON it’s okay. everybody has their own opinions. I’ve never read Dragon Rider, but i’ve seen it in a library. Who’s read The Lightning Thief or High, Wide and Lonesome?
The Lightning Thief is a little bit juvenile, but it’s very imaginative and funny.
I loved dragon rider. i pretty much love anything at all by Cornelia Funke. Does anyone know when InkDeath is coming out?
57- I agree. I read the first one and I liked the plot, it was just to childish of a writing style.
I read a book called the Portrait of Mrs. Charbuque. It was very good despite my expectations. It is set in the 1800’s, and is about a painter who has to paint a picture of a lady without seeing her. It has a marvelous unexpected twist at the end.
Eragon, phhht! I loved it…until i actually sat down and analyzed it. it is exactly like star wars, it is the most cliche thing i have ever read, eragon himself wanted to make me puke, and it just did not flow together well. and yet i still cannot wait for the last one to come out. i also took into acount that it was written by a fifteen year old boy. he did make a fortune off it. *is jealous*
the lightining theif books were hilarious. a good rainy day book. not very complex, cause i read the first one in under 2 hours.
58-cornelia funke is pwnsome! the second inkheart book was horrible though.
oh, i’m still punished from books. that’ll be…6 weeks? maybe more? whatever. my mommy says i won’t be able to read till i’m out of highschool. oh well. if you want to know, i disobeyed my parents in a very specific way. no more is needed for that .
59- Banned from reading? :cry::shock::cry::shock::cry::shock::cry::shock:[200 snipped. We get the idea. -Oob, pretending to be SCAMP]
I was banned from reading in 5th grade (well, I had to ask before I could read, which pretty much amounts to the same thing…), and it was a pretty traumatic experience! But that was because all I did was read… (well, not much has changed…)
61- Hah, that would probably happen to me if my parents were more strict. But when I was 9 they had to make rules such as “no reading while riding your bike” (which I did) and “no reading while crossing the street” (which I also did).
58- WHEN?????????????????? INKDEATH? (morbid title, pwn)
61- I hateit when kids say they can’t read certain books cuz their parents say they can’t. I can read anything i want, even innapropriate ones.
I, personally am on a Lois Duncan kick…but i just started my first Stephen King book!
Well, my parents don’t really care what I read (either that or they’re not paying attention in a quite remarkable fashion). I mean, they’ve never banned me from specific books, as in “You can’t read this”, or anything like that, and I like to think that I’ve read many more apt-to-be-censored-ish books than most of my classmates (this is most likely not true).
I am mad, though, that we’re reading Huck Finn in english, when I read that 4-5 years ago. Still, it’s funny…
62-Ha. Tofl.
re: banned from reading
if my parents said i wasn’t allowed to read, i’d probably argue a bit and then be like “pssh, screw that” and read anyway. fortunately, that’ll never have to happen since my parents have only stopped me from reading for a few hours at a time, mostly in middle school. (and i never exactly went along with that either)
also re: censorship, etc, i don’t tell my parents what i’m reading, but when they ask, they generally don’t care. same with online stuff like facebook, one day i mentioned it within another conversation and my parents were like “you have a facebook?” and i was like “yeah, got it ages ago” and they were like “ok, cool don’t get raped” and i was like “no, that’s myspace”
actually once when i was small(er), i was asking parentals for recommendations and dad said the great gatsby, and mom was like “um…you should probably read that when you’re older” That was the only time.
i wish the same applied for movies. my dad’s cool with it, but mom’s not. she wouldn’t let me go see resident evil 3 >
Lightning Thief + sequels were, if nothing else, rather amusing and somewhat original.
Swann, I repeat my previous question; how old are you?
I would DIE if I couldn’t read. Fortunately, mom doesn’t care. She figures 14 = old enough to decide what’s good to read. Lisanne on the other hand… yeesh. Her mom wouldn’t even let her read Wicked ’cause of some of the *hem* more inappropriate scenes.
Lightning Thief rules!!!
I don’t think I’d ever be banned from reading; my mother is a librarian. I do wonder what would happen if they found out that I occasionally read on my walk home from school. (yes I look both ways while I cross the street.)
Re: banned books/prohibiting books. My parents have occasionally said “you’d enjoy it more when you’re older.” They don’t anymore (this was when I was younger than 13 or 14 or so) and they’ve never said “don’t read it”. If they tell me I’d enjoy it more later I figure they’re probably right and go read something else usually.
67- I’m either 11, 12,or 13.
OMG HAS ANYONE HERE READ THE UNDERLAND CHRONICLES???? BBITW! (best book in the world)
I LOOOOOOOOVEEE THE UNDERLAND CHRONICLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 (yeah, they are the best books in the world )
58: Supposedly in spring. Sorry if someone else answered that. It means I didn’t read carefully enough the previous comments.
I have to read The Princess and the Goblin by George Macdonald for my one class. Ugh. I’m not officially enjoying it. He’s a good writer and all, but I don’t like little stories about princesses and goblins and that kind of thing. At least not when the princess is so young. It’s a little boring.
I have not read since NaNo begain. but I am reading the golden compass.
66- The Great Gatsby? Why…? I don’t really remember it that well, I might be missing something…
The only book my mother ever prevented me from reading immediately was Brave New World, which I did read eventually…
57- it was rather juanile, but I read it back in fivth grade, so I liked it.
68- YES!
I’m reading Rebecca
Yeah, homefry! (does air hifive)
The Man for Aeiou makes another horrible spelling mistake!
79- look. follow this link, and go to coment #97. I am a genius.
79- C’mon, don’t make fun of him. I don’t think he’s doing it on purpose (if he was, I’d be madder than you.)
see, i relize how to spell after I hit submit.
Kiki the great. Orson s. c. was that book called Ender’s Game?
83- No, it’s Alvin Maker, one of OSC’s lesser known works.
Sorry, man for aeiou.
Wait…
Aeiou is all of the vowels in order. Heh. Boy, I take awhile to catch on.
I just read an article on Time announcing that Dumbledore is gay. Huh.
ska-WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MAXRIDE OBSESSION {does little dance} I got my friend to read it so now we can be MAXRIDE READERS TOGETHER AT SCHOOLL AND TALK ABOUT IT ALL DAY LONG
Has anyone read anything at all by Philip Reeve?
has any one here read the true meaning of smeekday? veary doug adams like.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY HARRY POTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like book 3, 6, an 7. I finished seven in the middle of summer.
And i’m only in fifth grade.
Which means I’m ten.
Once at a PTA meeting my mom went to, some parents were worried that their kids don’t read enough. My mom said,”My kids read too much.”
People looked at her like she was crazy
Putty
89- Same old. Except for being id 5th grade, same situation. And my mom doesn’t do PTA.
Has anyone read Dairy Queen?
89- ‘K. There is NO SUCH THING as reading too much. Unless you live under a rock with nothing to do but read the same book over and over again, and feed off your wormy neighbors in the dirt under the rock where you live.
90- No. “A Week in the Woods”?
Dairy Queen was Ok. Kind of ChickLit, but it was pretty good. A Week in the Woods by Andrew clements? I love his books, but my mom refuses to buy the for me because I finish them in and hour. i just read the Life of Pi for the second time and I love it still! I was banned from reading for a little while, but my mom got over it. She said she’d rather I read than watch TV. I really want to read I’d Tell You I Love You But Then I’d Have to Kill You. Anyone read Memoirs of a Teenage Amnesiac by Gabrielle Zevin the author of Elsewhere?
I’m the only Philip Reeve fan I know besides my dad.
(92) Coincidentally, my pal Pollyhymnia reviewed Memoirs of a Teenage Amnesiac in today’s New York Times Book Review.
Has anyone read anything by Ellen Kushner?
94- I knew that I should have been looking for her! rember when you got in it!
94-yay pollyhymnia! you should get her to come back, she was cool. is she doing nano?
I’ve never met Pollyhymnia in bloglife or reallife. A pity.
Every month is novel-writing month for Polly. I’ll try to lure her back to the blog to talk about her latest project.
hey you guys? I know you *love* max’s ride and twilight and all but could we keep this thread at a lower OMG level and actually talk about *other* books and suggest things to each other? maybe I’ll start us off with a little survey:
What book are you currently reading? I’m reading a short story collection called The Essential Bordertown edited by Terri Windling and Delia Sherman and another one called M is for Magic by Neil Gaiman.
What book have you just finished? The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath. We’re reading it for school but I really enjoyed it.
Book suggestions that you have not mentioned previously? I don’t believe I’ve mentioned A Fistful of Sky by Nina Kiriki Hoffman. She’s a great author, somewhat like a mixture of Charles de Lint and Diana Wynne Jones’ writing styles.
I am not currently reading anything. I have just finished Starcross by Philip Reeve. It’s sort of a spoof of two genres at once- space opera and Victorian-style adventure tale.
At the moment I’m in the middle of The Lost World, my *hem* Flash ActionScript textbook (do not laugh, it is actually very interesting), and and Taming of the Shrew (lol Shakespeare).
I just finished A Midsummer Night’s Dream, and Airframe.
I highly recommend the Three Musketeers and subsequent books, by Alexandre Dumas.
The only Shakespeare I’ve read is the Tempest. Without consulting footnotes. In one sitting.
I have skillz. What can I say?
News flash! I’ve been scouring the internet for Abarat-related stuff, and I found an interview in which Clive Barker discusses the third book (Absolute Midnight.) He gives us a teaser, viz. Bill Quackenbush finds Wolfswinkel’s hats and makes them into a patchwork shirt. He then proceeds to assemble an army of several hundred yes-men and to make war on anyone who “tries to mess my reality up,” i. e. Abaratians. Tantalizing, no?
*looks around*
I SAID, “TANTALIZING, NO?”
*crickets*
Come onnnn… I know you Abarat fans are out there. I can hear you singing “Hamster Tree.”
*more crickets, or, as it happens, vlitters*
Come out or I’ll feed you to a mantizac.
*anonymous voice* We’re all wearing red! THBBFT:razz:
Well, if all the inside jokes I put in there won’t lure you out, I don’t know what will.
*sits down despondently and therefore doesn’t notice pockets being picked by the Johns*
OK, I’m getting out of hand. The results of my brain on Huffaker.
Sorry, sorry. Last one.
one hundred- It’s not ‘max’s ride’, it’s max ride.
But if you insist not being all omgy…
I just read Rules by Cynthia Lord. It was really good.
Anyone read Beacon Street Girls? Love it. And Uglies. Uglies is not all just for girls.
Ughh. I had to sit through an entire Rebecca Caudill nominations presentation. All of the books are books that no guy would pick up normally and read. One’s about a girl going to a princess school. Another is about a girl named after a mythological figure who’s getting teased. Some of the books mentioned weren’t half bad, but the author just HAD to throw in the “really cute guy” or “beautiful girl” somewhere in there.
*wanders in singing and wearing red*
….I used to have a hampster tree!
Oh cool! Sorry, I didn’t hear you at first I was singing…
(anyone know when it is coming out by the way?)
108- Fall 2008 at the earliest. Yeah, I know, I can’t wait either…
107-The princess one was probably by Shannon Hale. But that one wasn’t as good as The Goose Girl, which is my favorite by her. I haven’t read her most recent one, though…
I’m reading Silas Marner (Veeeeeeeeeery slowly).
I finished Mystic and Rider by Shannon Shinn (I hated her book for young adults, but I thought this was pretty good).
106-And I did read Uglies, but I never got around to the other two.
And I really want to read Enthusiasm, now.
The goose girl? Lurve it.
Artemis Fowl, anyone?
111- I like Artemis Fowl. I hear in the next one we’ll be learning more about the Hamburg Incident, and there will be a lot of time paradoxes.
Another teaser about Absolute Midnight…
There will be a glyph created by 7000 people (directed by Malingo) whose illustration will take up 3 pages!
Prarilius Canix… your source for rumors.
104- *screams* *does a happy dance* There is another Artemis Fowl book? I am kind of getting tired of them… the first four were good, but after the fifth it started getting old. I do not like the girl that was introduced. Love interests for love interests sake annoy me. For example, in the Alex Rider movie (snakehead is out!!!!!) they introduced a girl for no reason at all. It was an OK movie…
I just finished the Face on the Milk Carton and Whatever Happened to Janie. I am currently between books.
Oh, was face on the milk carton good?
Why does the entire world predjudice against Minerva Paradizo except for me?
ARTEMIS RUMOURS-
-Juliet will remember the fairy crew
– Artemis and Minerva shall get together [duh]
– [ok, get this] Holly and Trouble Kelp will get together [dies]
More rumours later
the face on the milk carton was good but the sequel was not what I expected. I really like Caroline B Cooney because she can write whatever she wants, a huge variety of books.
114- I’m not surprised about Holly and Trouble. There was a bit of foreshadowing in the fourth one.
Minerva Paradizo was introduced a little too late in the series for my taste.
no, not really, because Artimis time-travels and is eighteen when he comes out of the warp tunnel.
106- uglies was… Ok, I guess. Prettys was the best, Specials was still better than Uglies. I really want to read Extras now, but no, we live in a tiny little town with a seriously lacking library and no bookstore. *screams* I’m gonna borrow it from my friend, but I have to wait for two more people to read it. Yup, that’s how it is here in our tiny little town in southwestern Wyoming. sigh.
117- Chronologically, not biologically.
118- Wait… Is there a book that comes after Specials?
onetwenty- OMG what mayonaisse container under what rock in which deep dark cave on which planet in what other UNIVERSE have you been living in??? Extras, book four in the series critically acclaimed by Scott Westerfeld has been out for approximately two months now. But it isn’t told by Tally’s POV anymore, which makes me sad.
one eighteen- TNO, I tote agree.
121- aaaah the OMGs are back! *hides* /half-sarcasm.
I began The Historian lately but I’ve mainly been re-reading and writng my nano.
103-i didn’t really like the tempest…if you like shakespeare i’d recommend macbeth, hamlet, as you like it, comedy of errors, the henry IV’s, lear, richard III, and taming of the shrew.
ooh, the historian! good book
i haven’t been reading at all, because of nano and other things…i have a lot of books that are way overdue though. the next book i read will probably be snow in august, for book club. i don’t really know anything about it though, so i can’t have much of a discussion
Hi, everybody!
It’s fun to find out what people are reading, but the thought of being “banned from reading” is giving me chills. I don’t think I would make it through a single day.
125- Hi! Pleased to meet you.
Hello, Polly. Have you read Twilight or Maximum Ride? (literally the first question I ask all new people I meet)
127- I dunno about that.
Remember, Polly’s an adult, so she might not have read any of those.
I wonder what she HAS been reading. Let’s ask her.
125- So what have you been reading lately?
125-pollyhymnia! *pies* i remember you *feels special* written any more brilliant books for us?
Hi again Polly! I’ve been reading Drujienna’s Harp which is a rather hard to find and rather obscure book. It is really good though. It is about a girl who finds a bottle in an antique shop that transports her to another world that kind of reminds me of the world of Gathering Blue or The Giver. Well, it reminds me of being like something Lowry would create.
Welcome Back, Polly!
I would definitely die if I was banned from reading.
Hello!
I haven’t read most of those books, but I did read Twilight–and I couldn’t stop reading it once I started. I didn’t get much sleep that night. Stephenie Meyer is the nicest person, too. She gave me a lovely quote to put on the cover of Enthusiasm.
Have any of you read Naomi Novak’s series about Dragons? The first one is called “His Majesty’s Dragon.” I recommend them wholeheartedly.
132- No, I haven’t even heard of them. But that can be easily remedied by an intrepid Googleer!
(Yes, that is supposed to have two e’s. Musketeer, racketeer. Googleer.)
I’m off!
Looks good! The most recent one is called “Empire of Ivory,” I think. Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell fans might enjoy it, considering the subject matter (historical fantasy in Napoleonic era).
I’ll go look for it next time I’m at Borders.
132 (Polly) – I haven’t read anything by Naomi Novak, but she wrote a Pep-Talk for NaNoWriMo and I really liked it. I just checked my library’s website, and they don’t have it! I can’t even request it from another library because apparently there isn’t a single Carnegie Library in the entire city that has it. I’ll just get it from the bookstore.
132- I know who Naomi is, and was happy to see that she’d be writing a pep talk but I’ve not read her work yet. Have you read anything by Charles de Lint or Ellen Kushner?
…and it is Novik, not Novak.
Polly, do you personally know other authors? many of the authors of books I read know each other and are close friends. and consider each other their ‘evil twins’ HPB points to those who know which author considers which author their evil twin…
Aha! That’s probably why the libraries didn’t have her–she doesn’t exist!
*checks again, using correct spelling*
Yay, they have it!
*requests*
137- Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett? *wild guess*
As far as I’ve been able to determine, Pollyhymnia knows approximately everybody.
140- Ask her about Philip Reeve. (Unlikely, because he lives in England, but I’m willing to try everything.)
132-my friend has been recommending those books for months, and i keep not having time to get to the library (which is really bad, because i still have about three books out… ) and yeah, she wrote a pep talk for nano that i really liked. (although so far i still think tom robbins had the best)
yes i know i was going to bed ten minutes ago. *sigh* Fine, i’ll go. also pracan-man, you can ask her yourself, she’s right there *points*
So sorry for misspelling Novik! If you do read her books, start with the first one–it’s a series that builds on itself. I’ve never met her, but she’s a friend of a friend.
Of the people you mention, the only one I know personally is Ellen Kushner. I met her once about a billion years ago, in I forget what context–I think maybe I knew her brother somehow? Or was she a friend of a friend of a roommate? In any case, I very much doubt she remembers me. I read and liked one or two early books of hers, but I didn’t keep up with her. Do you recommend any in particular?
132- Yesss you officially rock!!! Edward is teh pwnage!
Has anyone here read the Sisters Grimm?
128-have you learned nothing from the GAPAs? adulthood means nothing *pies rosanne, little-kid’s-book-reading-buddy*
well so far my plan of writing lots and lots and lots today is failing miserably so i may go actually return all my long-lost library books and see if they have the napoleon dragon books or mebbe some wodehouse or something.
144- no, I am Teh Pwnage!
143- You know Ellen Kushner personally? cool! I like her books. I’d recommend The Privilege of the Sword if you’ve not already read it. I wonder if you know any of my other favorite authors personally. Many of them seem to know Ellen. Pamela Dean? Jane Yolen? Patricia C. Wrede? What about Delia Sherman? If you know Ellen, you probably know Delia. And if you know Jane, do you know Adam Stemple? Anyways….
I don’t know a lot of the authors you’re talking about, but I know Patricia C. Wrede wrote Dealing with Dragons, which is a pretty good book, exept really boring when your English teacher makes you ‘comprehend’ it.
Oxlin,
I don’t know any of those writers personally, though some are friends of friends. And I wouldn’t really say I know Ellen Kushner either–I had lunch with her once, twenty years ago. I wouldn’t recognize her if we were stuck in an elevator together. I remember she wore bright red lipstick, unless that was someone else.
One of her books reminded me of books by Dorothy Dunnett, a Scottish historical novelist. They have some adult content, but they’re very dramatic and gripping.
149-Scottish history, or just history in general?
Pan-European and beyond. Her characters travel a lot.
Thanks for the pie, ebeth. Luckily I like both children’s books AND pie.
147- Nay, Edward is teh pwnage!
Whee! Children’s books! and Pie! lets read childrens books about pie?
149-ooh, interesting. Which one? and titles of those by Dorothy Dunnett?
She was Scottish. The books are set all over the world.
I just went to your website and now I desperately want to read Enthusiasm.
(im not sure which post) i finished twilight and now im waiting fr new moon to come in and its makeing me very very very mad that i have to wait.
there is a waiting list three miles long for all three at my library. Don’t worry, new moon is kind of lame in comparison to the others. Eclipse is probably my favorite, bella gets a little more ‘mature’ with edward.
I prefer Jacob to Edward.
New Moon isn’t lame! I love New Moon! I love all three.
Well, I love all three too, just New Moon is my least favorite in the series.
Jacob is an idiot! He sexually assaults Bella! I can’t believe you like him! Over Edward, nonetheless! Edward rocks more than Rebecca! (no offense)
I went to the library today and got dozens of books, most of them I checked out because they were recommended on this thread. I also checked out “Politically Correct Bedtime Stories” again, because whenever my dad reads it he’s in a good mood for the next three decades
You’ll all be very pleased to hear that I finally read The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. I enjoyed it, too, but not enough to join the fandom.
I’m reading the Weal of Time series, which is about 12 books, 1000 pages each, but I WILL FINISH IT!
I don’t think we should be insulting people over people that don’t exist. Remember, we’re all Musers here.
*is pied*
What is the Weal of Time series about? I’ve never heard of it.
Have any of you guys read any of Tamora Pierce’s books? She is soooooo good.
“Wheel of Time,” no?
165-my nana gave me that whole series too they’re pretty good. they tend to drag on a bit though. maybe just because there are so many of them, and i read them all at once.
oh GAPA, i got the game of kings (?) by dorothy dunnett and it is FLAMABLAMABLOUS! like robin hood except without the whole “oh, we’re actually good people!” bit. (and a bit more historically detailed, which is cool) it has been threatening to keep me away from nano even! which is not good by the way. if i don’t finish, i’ll blame you. And mr. joe.
The other day at the library I found His Majesty’s Dragon. Robert has mentioned it before. At least, I think it was His Majesty’s Dragon. Robert said that it was like Horatio Hornblower with dragons, and the title of one of the books was Midshipwizard Halcyon Blithe. Sounds pretty like it to me.
I’m afraid I didn’t really care for it; the dialogue seemed a bit stilted (darn spellcheck, get it into your brain that dialogue is a word!), but it’s a good concept.
Pollyhymnia mentioned the book most recently, back in comment 132. Maybe we old folks are more comfortable with early-19th-century speech patterns. It seems like only yesterday…
I just finished reading the Song of the Lioness series by Tamora Pierce.
168, 167- I’ll find it at the library and read the first few chapters to see if I like it.
I got “His Majesty’s Dragon” from the library on Friday, but I haven’t started reading it yet.
The Book Thief. YUMMY SCRUMBOES! It sounds depressing on the back, but it is SO GOOD.
162- Alice! You started posting again! (hugs)
169- OMG BEST BOOKS IN THE WORLD DID YOU LIKE THEM HUH HUH HUH????? HAVE YOU READ ANY OF HER OTHER BOOKS???
160- OMG you’re reading Warriors! LURVE. Actually, no. TRIPLELURVE. Haha, Yellowfang pwnz.
168- It wasn’t the speech patterns. It was the way the characters were discussing the stuff. It was like the author was trying way too hard to show, not tell, and it sounded wrong. All information about the history of the world was revealed solely through the dialogue.
Aw shucks. I’m reading this past thread, and it appears I missed the visit by Pollyhymnia. Shame.
173-Nope, but I want to get them soon.
174-Warriors pwns. No more needed.
174- l’m looking at the cover of the new prophecy right now, on my desk. Teh pwnage.
177, etc. I liked Warriors, but it got boring after the twelfth book. Twelve is enough for any self-respecting author.
(175) Ah, the old exposition-through-dialogue trick. Yes, that can be clunky if carelessly handled.
175 (Alice) – I don’t like that. I’m doing that in my NaNoWriMo novel, but that’s okay because I plan on killing it once November is over.
(175, 180) Introducing background is a problem for writers. Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell solved it with footnotes, but that’s awkward, too.
I’m asking for all these books for Christmas. I have this drawer full of books that I am keeping for my children. It’s insane. It’s a bad habit of mine to read a book and then buy it.
I’m reading Indian Captive and Calico Bush for school right now. Good books.
178-Yeah…The Power of Three is pretty boring for a while. The first two series were good, though.
i don’t like footnotes. you never know if you should jump to the footnote right away or finish the sentence or the paragraph first
184 (Ebeth) – I agree, somewhat. I can never decide what to do with the footnote (when to read it). But they’re really fun to write! I have several in my NaNo.
New moon etc is cliché.
but
things fall apart
girl, interrupted
siddhartha
journey from the land of no
habibi
and the five people you meet in heaven
are not.
in fact
they’re very good.
186- ooh, I like Habibi! I believe my book group read it. Maybe I read it on my own, though I don’t remember.
186-when i first read the bottom bit of that i thought it said “are not in fact very good” and i was like “WHAAAAT?!”
i don’t remember where i posted this but i’m reading Miss Manner’s guide to excruciatingly correct behavior. it is hilariouse. it reminds me so much of the way Mr. Coontz writes. with its subtle humor and wit it humours me while everyone else feels the need to ridicule my choice of literature.
I have created my own warrior clan, and me and my warrior obsessed friends have a gathering every month with cupkaces and sleepingover and stuff. Both of these friends live in another state. Enough said? My name is cranefoot. I should post my clan sometime.
184,185- Yeah, I know.
179,180- I’m doing it with The Makepeace War, actually, just because I need to write it down before I forget, but I’m going to edit out as soon as the book is done.
189- Oh my God! Kagy! I’m reading that too!
191- no way! seriously! where are you? i’m at where they tell you how to eat fruit properly! do you find miss manners a bit rude in replying to her letters? i do but just a bit. I actualy can’t believe someone else is reading it! everyone at school is all “ewwww. what a zarked up book!”
192- I’ve just been skimming. Isn’t it the most hilarious book?
first off-philip reeve: i have read t most of the books on the huge moving cities in the future. i loved them greatly.
i’ll have to loo at the other books mentioned, but now i have got to go! ttfn(ta ta for now)
194- Sweet! I’ve read them too.
Municipal Darwinism… gotta love it.
194,195- Read Mortal Engines, loved it, didn’t want to read the others. I didn’t want to see the wonderful, wonderful, characters grow up. I never do. At the library, though, I was eying On a Darkling Plain, and I must admit, it looked very tempting.
I also liked Larklight.
196- Judging from the rest of your post, you wouldn’t want to read A Darkling Plain.
You could probably read as far as Predator’s Gold without seeing them get old (although they definitely grow up.) It’s worth it.
The second Larklight book is out. It’s just as good as the first one.
197- Oh, by saying that I’d been eying A Darkling Plain, I meant that I didn’t think I’d mind seeing them grow up/get old. It’s been a while since I read Mortal Engines. I could probably deal now.
What the second Larklight book called?
Starcross. It looks good.
about a year ago I read the “His Dark Materials” series. It disturbed me at first, the whole ‘there is no God” thing. I don’t think the movie stresses that (we saw an advanced preveiw) yet. The actual ideas Phillip Pullman “promotes” come about in the third. My mom has gotten numerous emails from the Church, but it didn’t really bother me. I want to know waht other musers think abut some of the ideas in the Amber spyglass. I don’t think Pullman was trying to denote God, rather, the Catholic church itself. He made the Magesterium into an all-powerful Inquisition, (using people’s fear of the Creator for power) and then brought that down. People don’t mind when a tyrranical ruler is brought down but….. in the third book, it really bothers people. Opinions please.
Well, in the third book, “God” is not only revealed to not be the creator, but he dies. That understandably upsets a lot of people.
phillip pullman is perfectly entitled to express his opinions, and new line is certainly able to make a movie about it. it’s a free country, and if you don’t like it, don’t see the movie or read the books. has anybody heard anything about it being an “atheist plot”? i was reading something about that, and it really annoyed me. they were like “he’s trying to pull in young readers and convert them to his beliefs OHNOEZ”
but it’s FICTION. little kids don’t think about the implications, or make connections between the magesterium and the catholic church, or anything like that. Besides, i don’t hear much about people having problems with the chronicles of narnia (although they might, idk), which is very similar.
honestly, i’m not a big fan of the last two books (although i LOVE the golden compass), but i think ultimately what he was trying to do was tell a good story, and if his story involved god, well, my story involved a whole bunch of gods and people just have to deal with it.
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Back to book-ish things…game of kings, READ IT it’s absolutely flamablamablous! almost lost me nano, actually…
i still haven’t been able to find the napoleonic dragon books, although i really want to read them. i’m suggesting them to the library now that i’ve paid off my $9 fine (!!! i know…and it was all for books, too, not even movies. i blame nano!)
I bought His Maj’s Dragon and am liking it so far, tho I would enjoy it more if there was a bit more travel in it. Most of it seems to take place at Loch whatever-it’s-called.
Alice: Starcross pwns. Philip Reeve is the only author I know of who can spoof multiple genres simultaneously.
Eeeeeebeth: Ooh, Game of Kings sounds good. Have you read The Privilege of the Sword?
205-no, but i want to now it sounds interesting. next time i get around to the library (which at this rate might not be until break…gaahhh)
ooh, Finder by Emma Bull *is* really good as Neil Gaiman says. It’s about 13 years old and may or may not be hard to find. It is a Bordertown novel if that means something to anyone…
must read dune. it looks amazing. and of course all the other thing yous recomended.
200-i am religious my self, an i read all the books. they were probably the best veiw into alternate worlds ever. i loved the angels, and they were amazing. philip pullman was not exactly dissing god, but catholicism. it was his veiw. he can write about it and if i read it, i can decide what i beleive. i don’t agree with his views, but find them original and well output. the only reason i did not like those books was that lyra and will were forever seperated. (actually, i lokved that it ended that way. it was the antithesis of cliche!!) philip pullman owns.
Dune is a prerequisite. It’s AMAZING.
Emily Post. Oh wow. I am impressed/shocked/appalled/a little bit disturbed.
209-prerequisite to what? life?
202- but it makes you think “what if i’m wrong?”
have any of the girl MBers (or boys im not biased) read “I’d tell you I love you but then I’d have to kill you” by Ally Carter? i thought it was unrealistic but good.
AH CANIX! You are so very right. The Hungry City Chronicles = Very very good + so worth it.
Alice is happy now. Alice is also mildly unable to concentrate on anything, including the book. She knows that if she picks it up she won’t put it down until her mother forcibly pulls it away from her so she may do some task.
♥
This was predictable, given my reaction to Mortal Engines. I wonder how much writing I shall do during the reading of this.
Predator’s Gold? Yes, I believe that’s my favorite of the entire series.
Fiiiiinaalllllllly got to read today! And yesterday! It was the first time in two months or so I’ve been able to sit down and read a book. There was homework and hockey and then Nano…
Anyway, yesterday read the sequel to Sea of Trolls (don’t remember the name) and am currently reading one about dragons (ish) and got Little (grrl) Lost by CHarles de Lint from the library, along with one called Fell and Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman.
214- Land of the Silver Apples? I liked that one.
I don’t see any clunky exposition through dialogue in His Maj’s Dragon. No Midshipwizard Halcyon Blithe, either. Maybe Alice picked up the wrong book?
Am now reading Throne of Jade and liking it even better than HMD.
216- Oh, guess so. Weird. *is bothered and confused* I’ll google.
I see. Well. Yeah, I got the wrong book.
219- I thought so.
TOJ is now finished. Can hardly wait to read BPW.
I finished (for the first time) Ender’s Game last week. Er, no, Wednesday. But anyway.
It was pretty awesome, and I didn’t end up hating Ender, which is rare for me. I usually hate heroes. It really wasn’t slashy. That’s about all I have to say about it. Which = major kudos to Orson Scott Card.
I have a list of well over sixty books that I have to read at some point, and the one I’m reading right now is Fargo Rock City: A Heavy Metal Odyssey in Rural North Dakota, by Chuck Klosterman. Basically, it’s about how heavy/glam metal defined his child/teenagehood growing up in a teeny farming village…not the best summery, but anyway. It’s hilarious. I hardly know half of the bands he’s talking about, but it is truly the most hysterical thing I’ve read.
I think after this, I’m going to read The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx, or Rebel Without a Cause. Either way I’m going to read something chronicling the events of something who is screwed up in the head.
I’m working on Far From the Madding Crowd, and it’s taking me forever…
And I tried to re-read The Golden Compass, and I still don’t love it, or anything. *pouts* I mean, it’s okay…
I haven’t been to the library in forever.
But Garth Nix is publishing two more Old Kingdom novels in about two years!
223- REALLY? *holds party two years in the future*
*sobs* I’m near the end of A Darkling Plain, but it’s just all so sad! I predict that Tom and Hester will die. Pennyroyal probably won’t, seeing how tenaciously he’s survived through the past two books, and Wren and Theo have a ninety-nine percent chance of both surviving. It’s a really good book, I wish I could write like that…
Oh god. It’s over. ‘Twas good. So good. But . . . *wobbly lip* . . . so sad! I swear, I’ve been crying almost nonstop for chapters!
There’ve only been a few books that have done this to me, and it was so long ago I can’t even remember what they were called. Some picture book about a moose when I was five or six . . . some other book that I can’t even dimly remember . . .
Wow. what can I read now? What can compare? Maybe I don’t need to read at all right now. I think I need to write.
226-THIDWICK THE BIG HEARTED MOOSE!!!!
*prances in circles laughing and clapping hands*
Ohmygosh. That is like, my FAMILY BOOK. My whole mother’s side can recite THIDWICK THE BIG HEARTED MOOSE!!!! in our sleep. This includes me, of course.
Alice, you have No Idea how happy you have just made me. It might seem senseless, but it’s true. Thidwick brings back such good memories….
228- Er . . .
. . .
I really, really, really, hate to say this, but . . .
No.
*consoles Beavo with chocolate*
This was about a baby moose who grew up and had to leave her mum. She traveled to the sea and made friends with the other Arctic animals. She’s attacked by wolves but fights them off. Then the book ends, and there’s a poem at the back that I could recite by heart and I even had a tune to sing it by when I was a young’n.
It was something about bravery. I’m gonna go google.
Ah yes. Beezle’s Bravery.
229-Naw, I wasn’t talking about your book, I was just mentioning that your book reminded me of THIDWICK THE BIG HEARTED MOOSE!!!! which means so much to me even if it’s not the book you’re talking about. But the choklit helped…
You’ve been off MB too long, Alice. You spelled “choklit” wrong. “Chocolate”. *scoff* What rubbish.
So there’s someone else who got really sad at the end of A Darkling Plain.
Philip Reeve is pwnsome.
232- “Really sad” is an understatement.
I once fantasized about converting my town into a Traction City. I changed its name into something quite clever which I can’t say here, natch.
211-It was popular at camp. But no, I have not read it.
233-Downward spiral of depression? Oh my.
n.b. I can’t say I’m a fan of Orson Scott Card. Go straight to Heinlein, people. And yes, I meant that.
BOOKS YOU SHOULD READ BECAUSE THEY WOULD ROCK YOUR WORLD (shortlisted):
Hairstyles of the Damned: Difficult, but important.
The Deathstalker novels by Simon R. Green: Excellent adventure science fiction. The entire Deathstalker clan is so BA they make Marilyn Manson look like freaking Hannah Montana. N.B. Ignore anything else Green has written: it’s not worth your time.
Dzur by Steven J. Brust: Possibly my favorite fantasy series ever written. They have everything. Get a copy, read it when you won’t be interrupted, prepare to have your mind blown.
The Forever War by Joe Haldenman: This is a SF novel about the Vietnam war. Yeah, it didn’t get published for a while. It’s exciting, it’s fast, it has a theme of futureshock and fidelity, it shifts like hell, and it is the book Heinlein might have written if he’d been in Vietnam. Like Bridge on the River Kwai with aliens, blood, and a happy ending.
K-Pax by Gene Brewer: It’s a riff on Gateway and E.T. I would like nothing more than to go on a blind date with prot. This is the book you should have been reading in school while you were wasting your precious time with Hamlet.
N.B. Forgot to add:
Peace On Earth by Stanislaw Lem: It’s the story of a man who, among other things, communicates to the left side of his body through Morse code, goes to the moon, and thwarts an international war.
[Various incomprehensible expressions of flabbergastment]
The fifth Temeraire book is called Victory of Eagles, and I’m willing to bet it’s about the War of 1812.
237- Bother!
so. uh. update on kagy’s reading slash could ya give me some suggestions?
I just finished the edge chronacles (or whatever) bout twig. it took me until the end of the first book when he meets the sky pirates for me to get into the series. i liked it well enough and the banderbears really touched my heart. i’m reading the hobbit and dirk gently’s holistic detective agency. i finnished miss manners (which was awesome thank you very much you can stop smirking now) which i highly reccomend. i really wish there had been some “for further reading” in the back though. cuz manners are interesting.
anyone have any suggestions for muserly books that i should read?
I am currently reading The Human, The Orchid and The Octopus, a recently translated book by the Most Excellent Captain Cousteau.
238- Why bother?
Ha ha. Why bother… why “bother”… yuk yuk.
I mean why did you say “bother,” not “why should you bother.”
Oh hey, this thread is still open to comments!
Echo!
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241- Because it’s already been done. But oh well. *shrugs*
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