Eragon: Book(s) and Movie
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Date: December 21, 2006
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Date: December 21, 2006
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I read the book. I think it was okay, but not way awesome. It was good enough to keep me reading it till the end, but that’s about it. I want to see the movies, except I keep hearing it’s not very good. So, I need a second opinion from y’all. Should I go see the movie? Or will it be a waste of time & money?
Wow… I just realized that this is probably one of my longest posts ever…
Arghh! Not movies, movie. I hate it when I do that. Oh well….
I’m going to see the movie tomorrow. The book was OK, good plot and description (though I hear it was a ripoff of the Belgeriad, I’ve never read that book), but the only bad thing was how everything was so much larger than life. There was nothing mundane in it, and so I found it hard to connect to the characters.
if u saw it please tell me should i see it or not????
or should i read it then rent it from blockbuster
4- I can tell you tomorrow.
Advice to everyone. Do not see the movie. It is a bunch of crap. It was really disconnected and a six year old could have written the script.
Personally I liked the book, but thats just me. *ducks pies*
GRRR. I hate you people. Eragon was a COMPLETE rip off off of Lord of the Rings and The Belgariad. Paolini has actually admitted that he plagiarized bits of LOTR and the Belagariad into Eragon. Also, Paolini was about sixteen when he began writing and worst of all, the book was published BY HIS PARENTS!!!! The movie in itself was ★★★. But considering the material they
were working from, it was crap. Gosh, I can’t imagine how you guys actually liked Eragon. I mean, I read Pawn of Prophecy (Belgariad book 1) yesterday and now I can see the COMPLETELY OBVIOUS ties between Belgarath and Brom and Garion and Eragon. I mean, even the NAMES sound similiar!!! Think about it. Gar-i-on. Er-a-gon. Garion phonetically would be Geh·ri·on. Eh·ri·gon. SEE???
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Eragon the Book Series sucked. Majorly. Its plot is ripped off from Star Wars, its world from LOTR, and everything else from the Belgariad.. Why the publishers haven’t caught on to the major plagerism issues in it, I can’t explain.
It’s not so much a rip off as it is obvious that Paolini loved the books and was, well, heavily influenced by LotR, etc.It’s about as plagiarized as anything else, really.
I didn’t find it particularly engaging, the description in some passages went on and on and often his word choice was…off, but all in all it’s a good read.
Unfortunately, I only got half way through, stopped, read The Sight and when I tried to read Eragon again, I just couldn’t. The difference in writing was too much.
I found the movie amusing for undisclosed reasons. >D I didn’t think it was that bad, really, but I’m neither a fan nor have I really read all of the book…My friend kept asking me what was going on, but he’s crazy so it might have just been him. It did help to have a basic grasp of the plotline though. Oh, and the kid would played Eragon was hawtzors. Yes he was. ♪
AH! Firefox just informed me that I made a spelling mistake, and that Eragon should be “dragon”. I never noticed how close the words are before…whoa.
10 (Axa)- My dad says Eragon as ‘Ee-ragon,’ as in the letter E in front of the word ‘dragon.’ I haven’t seen the movie Eragon, but I bitterly, bitterly hate the book. Actually, I think it’s mostly because I’m a teenager who’s actually serious about writing, and Paolini’s plagiarism and terrible writing seem to mock that.
Elaboration? Pfft. Hokay, so y’all know by now that Paolini had his book published by his parents. No, I’m not going to punish him for being better-connected than peons like me, but the book should not have been published. Eragon could have been a good book. Paolini was obviously dedicated, or else he wouldn’t have bothered to write a five-hundred-page fanfiction. Heck, I don’t have the attention span to do that. But since he was that dedicated, he could have at least bothered to read through his manuscript and fix the blatant self-insertion and plot-rip from Star Wars/the Belgariad/LotR, as well as the purple prose and pretension. Yes, it would have been hard. Whoever told our dear Mr. Paolini that writing was easy was lying, majorly. Other writers know how hard it is, but we go through the difficulty in hopes of someday being published, instead of simply running down to Mom and Dad and going, ‘Look, I wrote a book. Can you publish it?’
And that is the essence of why most teen writers, instead of being inspired by Paolini, hate his guts. It’s not because we’re jealous that he got published and we didn’t, as so many fans claim. It’s because he could have been good. If he had taken the time and effort, which he had, to edit and revise his work, like the rest of us have to, his book could have been good. He had ideas. He had time and dedication, and he could have been good. Instead he’s stuck in perpetual Eragon-ness, and has to defend it instead of becoming a better writer. If it weren’t for the stupid marketing people, who wanted to get the book out while he was still a teenager, Eragon might have been a decent book. Instead, it is a steaming pile of crap.
Do pardon me. I feel very strongly about this issue.
Read the Anti-Shurtugal rants. Google ‘anti-shurtugal’ and they should come up. And they put this so much better than I.
11- you put it quite well. As soon as I have the time, I’ll put in my two cents on the issue. For now, I agree with Penty and Good Night.
i had to see eragon with my school. it was hilarious!! well, maybe not so much if you dont see it with your friends. well, anyway, i was dieing of laughter all through it. eragon’s brother was wearing jeans at one point!!! and you could tell what was going to happen half an hour before it did. watch! 5 stars, funniest movie ever!
(i agree with everyone, book was totally plaigerized, and the movie tried to be LoTR, and failed.)
10-you go fooled by the tight leather stripper pants. he was actually quite average.
7-isn there a much more obvious source for the name eragon? i mean, seriously, my mom has mistaken Aragorn for Eragon at least ten times. “whats it called?” “eragon” “like the dude from lord of the rings?” “no. thats Aragorn.”
(11 ) PURPLE PROSE that’s the word for what it is. Thank you.
( all posts on plagerism)
I very strongly disagree. Plagiarism has the idea in mind to purposely take ideas or exact words, etc and use them. I do not believe Paolini did that; rather he was so terribly influenced by those books, and was maybe a big, well, geek about them that it naturally leaked into his writing. (PRZ TO READ THAT) The fact is, maybe this would have been better as a book that he wrote and maybe his family saw it, but his parents could publish it and here we are. It really seems more like the creative “testing of the waters”, if you follow me.
I find it remarkable he could write an entire book. See that, at least, as an achievement. I’m sure he did indeed put a good deal of time into that book, and a good portion of his emotion. You can’t write all that and not have given something to it! Yes, he is certainly a novice, and yes, there are people who write better here on MB than he did, but for goodness sake give the poor boy a break.
(13) No, those are Gackt pants. If anyone, ANYONE understands that, I will give you so much virtual choklit you’ll just die. And I still think he was an attractive person, though I love anyone with an accent.
Note that your description of said pants is still true. ♥
I read the books. They were good. They have nearly the same plotline. i have never seen the movie, and have no intention of doning so. The books were unremarkable.
Yeah, Penty. I can picture that on the headline of some writing newspaper:
“PAOLINI USES PURPLE PROSE AND PLAGUARIZES!”
Okay, well, I thought it was okay when I first read it in 6th grade, but then again I’ve never read the Belgariad so I don’t know.
But I despied the movie. Not just because the book wasn’t all to great, but because they crammed so much into a tiny slot of time cut out half the stuff. Bigger rant on all this later when I’m not being yelled at to get of the computer.
I haven’t seen it, read the book or even heard of it. I’m not in to that kind of stuff. LOTR, Harry Potter, other junk.
A series of Unfortuanate events
It would really have been a good book if it had been edited. His parents just published it like that, but if he had actually sent it to a real editor, it would have been good. And, as to the plagarism, there are lots of books out there that are a lot like HP, LOTR, Star Wars, etc. People think that since those books and movies were such a big hit, then if they write books like that then they will be hits too. Paolini’s book is just totally over-exaggerated by the media, and it’s so famous, so we get angrier at it, even when there are tiny little books no one really reads that plagarize even more. I just can’t stress enough how it could have been a good book if there had actually been some editing and revision.
Murtagh.
He’s hott.
…+ I think that’s all I have to say.
Paolini is probably a total nerd who had nothing to do since his parents cut off his World of Warcraft connection. So he wrote a book.
I just finished the fellowship of the ring. I do have concide that all ranters out there are probably right about the plagerism.
His parents published it? That is total crap.
14 (Axa)- Ha, I actually know that you’re not randomly clearing your throat when you say ‘Gackt.’ I feel so j-educated.
On plagiarism- I’m no good at arguing this one at all, so I lifted a section from Anti-Shur’tugal’s Seventh Epistle. And I am not trying to pass it off as my own. Eldest spoiler, but if you know Star Wars and haven’t read Eldest, I’m sure you saw it coming.
“The trilogy does not have a “voiceâ€. Instead it is an echo of an echo of an echo. It does nothing but mindlessly and pointlessly regurgitate things which have been done a million times before, in exactly the same way, over and over again. While Paolini has lifted the characters, worlds, ideas and plots of other writers verbatim, what he has failed to transplant is what that really matters about these things. Everything in his books is there “becauseâ€. For example, in the Star Wars trilogy, it was revealed that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalker’s father because this revelation created realistic and sympathetic conflict within the hero’s mind. It added a touch of darkness and complexity to the story and heightened the viewer’s interest and emotional investment in what was happening. At the time, it was also a relatively new and fresh idea that genuinely surprised people.
“In Eldest, it is revealed that Morzan was Eragon’s father and this makes absolutely no difference to anything. Paolini includes this plot point for the gods alone know what reason – most likely because he thought it was “cool†– apparently unaware that it has to do more than just be there. In Star Wars the “I am your father†revelation was shocking and involving. In Eldest the only response from the reader is one of boredom and contempt. Why should anyone find it at all shocking or interesting when it is so familiar? Everyone knows about what happened in Star Wars – the “I am your father†line has been relentlessly copied and parodied and has ingrained itself into popular culture to the point that most people know it before they even watch the movie. The way it is done in Eldest means that the reader feels absolutely no surprise, only astonishment that Paolini apparently believed it would provide a big “wow†moment for his readers.
“And yet the idea of the protagonist of a story being in some way related to the villain does not need to be unoriginal. The reasons why Paolini failed to make it work are as follows:
“Firstly, it is clumsily done. The fight between Murtagh and Eragon is painfully contrived, and when Murtagh “dramatically†reveals to Eragon that they are brothers it is hampered by Paolini’s excruciatingly stilted writing. There is no sense of drama inherent in the prose at this point; the dialogue remains as horribly forced and unrealistic as ever, and this makes it difficult for the reader to immerse himself in what is going on.
“Secondly, the theft is so blindingly obvious as to render this part of the book outright laughable. Absolutely no attempt has been made to hide the “inspiration†behind it; on reading it, one instantly recognises it as having come from Star Wars. Some time later the line “look inside yourself, you know it to be true†appears. This is almost identical to Vader’s famous line; “search your feelings, you know it to be trueâ€, and only helps to confirm that, yes, Paolini stole the scene from Star Wars.
“And finally, the impact that it has on the plot and characters is virtually nil. Eragon feels a little depressed about it for approximately half a page, and then it is all over and forgotten. The fact that it makes so little impression on Eragon makes the reader dismiss it just as quickly and move on. If Eragon is barely upset by it, why should the reader care? Thus we see the point emerge; we have had the idea without the spirit. Paolini stole the “I am your father†element but completely ignored the whole reason why Lucas used it in the first place. It is simply there, and that is all.”
Plz to read the Episitles.
18- gasps. A stab in the heart.
Well, I don’t actually know what I think about Eragon. Do I like it? Or is it boring? I don’t know. It’s just…hard to tell. But then I opened up Eldest, and I had to force myself to read.
Imagination rainbow is needed.
Whatever. I think I’ll see the movie and state my opinions then.
I started reading it and I put it down after the second chapter started. It was SOOOOOOOO BOOOORING!!!!!!!
23- I am in complete agreement.
FINALLY A THE THREAD I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! I BEGGED AND I PLEADED FOR THIS AND NOW IT IS HERE!
The book was okay and Eldest was fine, but the Movie!? The Movie was HORRIBLE!!!!!!!! Terrible! I wanted Eragon to die at the end so that they couldn’t make an Eldest. But then again, they left out so many details that the movie would have to be about 3 hours long.
A Scale of 1 to 10, how do I rate the movie?
-1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Its in bold.
14- I understand! Yay! Make it dark chocolate, please.
(21) Okay seriously stop with that. You aren’t adding anything to the conversation. If you don’t like him or his books give reasons not stereotypes.
(23) -buries in choklit- YOU WINSSSS ALL MY INTERNETS. 8DDD Gackt is a beautiful man.
ANYWAY I can’t really argue anymore my point than I have, seeing as how I haven’t read much of the book. Haha. >_> In any case, I think he was a kid, so whatever, but that article (passage/quote/etc) brings up some good points. I agree in the sense that it shouldn’t have succeeded as much as it did, but I understand why. Maybe the big fans are subconsciously aware of the influences, and thus are experiencing those influences ( supposedly Star Wars, LotR, etc,etc) through the book, which is enjoyable. I think, while this was not intentional, it worked in his advantage.
The movie wasn’t that bad. But, well, I’m not a fan. I just though the kid who played was hawt. And so Axa leaves the conversation for more senseless posting. xDDD
Okay, I like the book Eragon, Eldest was insanely boring, and I’m surprised I even bothered seeing the movie. :P. It was a total waste of time.
Eww. Totally. The difference between Christopher Paolini and someone who can write is that his parents own a publishing company.
I never read the book, and I almost went to the movie. But from what people have said, they were both kinda…funky. My friend said she doesn’t pity Paolini because the book is the exact reason why fifteen-year-olds should not write novels. I also read and heard reviews saying that it “stole plot points from Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter”, “tries to be Lord of the Rings but SOOO is not.” On the radio, they played an audio clip and said that if you took out the dramatic background music, the dialouge would seem as dry nad hollow as sand.
The only complaint my friend conveyed about the movie was that they scewed around with the order of the deaths.
(28) YES. -tears of joy and more chocolate- Okay I’m gone now. xD -skitters off-
I asked my cousin on her opinion(since I was so dang confused and she is extremely smart)about this and this is what she wrote me:
Here are some truths.
Paolini’s parents did publish his book. At FIRST. A home-started publishing
firm isn’t going to get publicity. What he did was tour the country, talking
about his book at schools and bookstores. What happened was Carl Hiasson
(Author of Hoot)’s nephew picked up Eragon… and loved it. And he convinced
his uncle to get a contact for Paolini. So he did actually work (at least a
bit) for the fame.
Yes, yes, yes. Eragon is STRONGLY influenced by many other stories. But it
is IT’S OWN STORY. After all, your Muse people neglected to mention that
Lord of the Rings was actually ripped off DIRECTLY from The Belgeriad (An
ancient story about a Dwarven/Elven ring that let this queen become
invisable, but after a while started controlling her). And all writers are
influenced by their own favorites.
Paolini is a geekface. Yes, that sounds painfully stereotypical and mean.
But it is TRUE. Do you know what his first big splurge after getting the
royalties check for Eragon was? AN EXACT REPLICA OF AN ANCIENT VIKING SWORD.
When (I REFUSE TO SAY IF) I get my first royalties, my first splurge will be
useful, lovely things. Not an expensive, useless, geeky sword. His writing,
although good, is just as much stereotypical geekish as him. I don’t mean to
imply anything (Okay, I do), but the dude’s probably never had a girlfriend.
Paolini is dedicated. Most definetely. Even though he did graduate high
school at fifteen, giving him more time to write, he did write. Unlike me,
who procrastinates… alot. Plus he went out and experienced his writing for
himself, to give it a more real feel. He built himself a small forge and
made his own frickin’ dagger! And the part where Eragon makes a dragon’s
bridle for Saphira, he made one himself. Plus a bow and arrow that actually
shoots. (Again geekish) But c’mon the man put alot of himself into this.
Fifth:
My own opinion.
I think the books are good. Unless I feel like it, I probably wouldn’t read
them again, to tell the truth. But they were immensely well-written. Plus
his vocabulary was amazing. Beyond SAT level. Mannn. Except that…. they
were horribly cliche. It was written in a way that no one could connect to.
Not many people seem to have human faults except for the evil dudes that
aren’t even human. Characters did and said dramatic, unrealistic things. The
storyline and descriptions were awesome, but the actual amount of human
emotion? NONE.
So has anyone even slightly changed their mind about Chris after reading this?
anyone?
I think you have all brought up excellent points and done fantastic job of thoroughly dicing this fluffy white cake of a fantasy to pieces. I would have to agree with most, but not all of what is said.
The books needed editing, as Penty put it. If not Paoloni, then some one else. Seriously, too many trees lost their lives because those books were so thick with unneccesary words, passages and entire chapters. You don’t need a book that thick for a plotline that 2-dimensional.
Also, Eragon is an immature, weak, sniveling, personalityless annoying snot of a protagonist.
The love story was painful. Akward, embarrasing and pityful. Like a middle school crush romance.
And finally, I would like to say that Paoloni not only took from fantasy novels, he took from other, less obvious sources. Two particularly memorable quotes that nearly had me dropping the book in laughter were
“Barges? We don’t need no stinkin’ barges!”
from Eldest, highly similar to the famed phrase from the classic movie The Treasure of the the Sierra Madres,
“Badges? We don’t need no stinkin’ badges!”
and of course “Ah, ’tis not but a flesh wound” was deffinately used somewhere in Eldest. Yes, that’s right, he even went so far as to use Monty Pyhon.
Actually, I really want to re-read the books now, after reading all you people’s insights.
11-Excellente.
34-I think you’re the first person i’ve met to claim that the writing was actually good.
Paolini needed to publish with somebody other than his parents right away. Sure, the publicity spreading it around and whatnot was a bit of work for him, but not the same as if he had given it to somebody else right away. Besides, maybe if he got one or two rejection letters, he might have worked harder on it before he sent it in again. And his editor could have been a lot better i think. Don’t know much about that, but i know there’s a lot more that could have been done and wasn’t, and that’s mostly Paolini’s fault but isn’t that what the editor’s for, to point these things out? Poor editor though, it was a huge task
21-And what’s wrong with that? I don’t like him, but as far as geekiness goes i’ll defend it to the death.
the love interest was embarassing. You’d think even a 15-year-old could do better. But then i guess there was the geek thing.
Eragon has absolutely nothing of interest in it because we’ve read it all before. Over and over. The thing that keeps me reading fantasy is that even though the main plot IS used over and over, there’s always originality. (i’m talking about good fantasy, btw) The authors take the main story and gave it a twist. The characters also help a lot. Make up strong characters, put them in the fantasy world, and see how they react. Paolini didn’t add the twist, didn’t add interesting characters, and he just ended up with a generic fantasy quest story. Booooring Also, the writing wasn’t good (i’ve seen better in 13-yr-old fanfics, for crying out loud) and i didn’t get much of a voice. It seemed like he was trying to use a style he wasn’t comfortable with and he ended up overdoing it. Penty’s purple prose is the perfect description
I agree with most of the luvverly rants here, and i will definitely check out the anti shurtugal place because it sounds quite interesting. But first, to the rest of the MB!
34- Um, LOTR was ripped off directly from the Belgariad? Frankly, that makes me doubt that your cousin knows that much about fantasy (or is extremely smart). The first book of the Belgariad was published in 1982, written by an author (David Eddings) who was born in 1931. LOTR was _written_ between 1937 and 1949 (so Eddings would have been between 6 and 18 when it was written), published in 1954-55. Tolkien died in 1973. He must have had a really good time machine to rip off a series that was published 9 years after he died.. maybe the reason none of us mentioned it is that it isn’t true..
And ditto what Ebeth said – I’ve never met anyone before who thought that they were well written.. Knowing how to use a thesaurus doesn’t make you a good writer, and Paolini has some _major_ issues with his dialogue and the flow of the book..
36- basically, you said everything I was going to say. Yay.
37-umm yeah. i was kinda wondering that myself when i read 34.
hookay.
i just looked up gackt on wikipedia.
In my opinion Eragon was not “immensly well written”. Read some good literature, then compare the two, and you’ll see what I mean. But well written isn’t always what matters. I mean, look at the Anne McCaffrey books, The Dragoon riders of Pern. OK, so not always top notch writing style, but the ideas are amazing. She has some real imagination, some real originality, that woman. Eragon lacked that.
But you know, I don’t think it neccesarily deserves all the hate it gets. There is plenty of fantasy that’s just as bad, if not worse. But for some reason, Eragon got a big huge hype, and everyone loved it when it first came out, so now it’s got a following of people like us who desperately want to point out that it is not, int fact, as good as every one says.
But, M & M, I’m glad that you disagree, because it’s not good when we Musers get too sure of ourselves. And I respect that you like the books. I enjoyed them when I read them too- but then, I do with almost any book.
Oi sorry. I asked my cousin that question and she said, “dunno, I’m not quite sure which one was written first.” I guess she just thought about the whole ripped off thing since she read The Belgiriad, but hey, I didn’t ask her to think deeply about her answer. So maybe she should have done some more researching about that, but I never said she knew that much about fantasy. And hey, just because one doesn’t know how old certain books are doesn’t mean she isn’t extremely smart, ya know. And also, just a thought, but since maybe The Belgariad was similar to LOTR, it was the other way around? Now I’ve never read either, so it is just a hypothesis. If i’m wrong, just tell me.
Secondly,
I never said I liked it. Please see post number 24 or 25 or whatever number it is. It twas my cousin who thought it was good. And people have different opinions, different tastes. There’s nothing wrong with liking Eragon, you just have a different opinion about it and such. Some people loved it, some people thought it needed editing, others despised it. There were posts that said they liked it(or at least just Eragon). You can see it if you scroll up and read the posts, they’re somewhere in there. So don’t be like,” I didn’t like it because of this, and that, I can’t believe you did…etc” Now I know you didn’t say that, but it seemed implied.
Anywaysss, nuff bout that. Hope everyone’s had a wonderful Christmas(eve too).
Peace out.
Thanks skipper! Though it was sorta my cousin who disagreed.
Yeah, I agree with you. It seems good to have another viewpoint after so many others follow the same.
And also, thanks for respecting that I liked the books, but again, it was my cousin who said that >_
The books really held your attention. They were good reads for kids. I haven’t seen the movie. I did read the belgariad, and you know what? It reminds me of Orson Scott Card’s Alvin series. I’m not saying it wasn’t original, they just feel the same. They are both very good, very different, series. Don’t get the wrong idea.
I sort of like the Eargon books, though they aren’t very original. I didn’t like the movie, mainly because my favortie part of the books is angela and they pretty much cut her out, and messed up a few other things too. plus it annoys me that Eragon and Murtagh looked as different as they did. I know they couldn’t look reall similar because that would give it away, but they shouldn’t look as different as they did in the movie. the way they are it looks like they couldn’t even be distantly related, let alone borthers.
(42) Cool. Yeah, what I meant was, I respect that you though the books were good. It’s true, there is a difference between liking a book and thinking it has quality.
24- I’m not really into that stuff.
This is probably really random and stupid, but is anyone else a Trekkie? I ♥ Spock! Star Trek rules.
Everything in the movie and the book was my favorite part. I especially liked when the dragon was born.
I LOVE the book Eragon, but I LOATHE the movie. Why do movies have to manically twist everything good about a book until it is as bad as the book I wrote in second grade (don’t ask, you don’t want to know)? Why?!
35- Almost forgot about that part….[flesh wounds…] Reminds me of POTC2 where Jack goes off about how he likes to wave at opportunities to be a “good person” as they fly by. *coughh2g2cough*
The books were trite. The Star Wars connections were pretty apparent, though….but I know more about Star Trek than S.W. so…yeah…not a Klingon-speaking amount, but, still…
Meh. I laughed through the whole movie. I swear, it had every cliché break-up line in it.
Eragon: AHHH! I CANNOT SEE!
Saphira: It’s not you; it’s me.
Eragon: AHH! Stay strong! We’ll pull through this together!
Roran: Eragon, I’m leaving.
Eragon: What?!? Why?!? *despairs*
Brom: *is dying*
Eragon: NOOOO! I NEED YOU!
Brom: No, I need YOU!
[okay, not really a break-up line, but I thought I’d include it]
Meh. And Arya was supposed to be unconscious. And what was up with the desert poofing away? Aargh.
They could have at least made the movie cool.
And Eragon’s stalking of Arya [en el libro] was just pathetically creepy. Ick. He was what, sixteen? And Arya was like 10000.
46: Hello? this is an Eragon thread. Why are you on here if you’re “not really into that stuff?”
47: Karrdash read Eragon? aren’t you like six? Impressive… still, i must disagree with your opinion of the book. the dragon-hatching bit was cool, though.
49: Gah! Thou shalt not rip off of Monty Python! ‘Tis blasphemy!
I read Eragon and Eldest, but I didn’t see the movie. my brother and his friend did though. To quote his friend: “It got the two stars it deserved.”
Why ar we dicussing Eragon if it wasn’t that good? Hellooo, hasn’t anyone heard of Stormbreaker?!?!
evry1 is saying Eragon was a rip-off of this, that, the other thing. Along with that, it. was. boring. in the extreme. im gonna sue! what a waste of my time! Besides, for those people who liked the book but hated the movie (weirdos), they’re ALWAYS like that! Look @ Harry Potter (esp. No. 3) and Princess Diaries! (One time I brought a book to the theater and was pointing out all the things wrong with its movie( harry 3)) for those of you who hated the book but loved the movie you are weird! those of you who hated both, good show! but those who LIKED both… I know where you live. Don’t go to sleep tonight! Muahaha!
Okay, I’m slightly confuzzled. I know that Eragon was largely ripped off from LOTR and Star Wars, but what is Belgariad? I’ve never heard of it. Somebody explain please. Oh, and 52, I haven’t heard of Stormbreaker. What are you talking about?
52- Err dude, let’s not forget this is the Eragon thread. We talk about what we don’t like or do like.
Phoenix described the Belgariad ‘way back at the beginning of the blog. I think “e~a the sock monkey” is the current resident expert.
it is my sincere wish that christopher paolini develops crippling and painful arthritis in all his fingers.
it is also my sincere wish that the eragon movie does more horribly than all the horrible movies in the world put together.
55) if i dont like it it aint worth talkin’ about but i guess you’re right… and i dont say that often
i found chris paolini’s fan-mail address. now i’m gonna hate mail him *people on blog start freaking out* i’m not actually gonna threaten him or anything like that, so relax paranoid freaks, i’m just gonna tell him how much i hated his stupidstupidstupid book.
also, every time the eragon previews come on i like scream and curl up in fetal position. i swore this oath to never see that movie.
The Book was good. Lets just try forgetting the changes the movie as a whole. In that sense, the movie was not tooooooo bad. However, the second book refers to many things the movie left out.
Durza the shade GIGGLED when he was about to kill Eragon!! It creeped me out.
59. How could you not like Eragon??? anyways, give him SOME credit, he was 15!
Who cares if it was ripped fron stuff?? it still was pretty good.
I read Eragon. Thought it was good, myself. Not amazing, but not bad either. I haven’t seen the movie. Heard it sucks, though.
50 ~ That tends to happen a lot with Harry Potter. I’m not sure how they’re planning to do some of the coming movies without the stuff they left out. But if they managed to leave it out once, I guess they can figure out some way to do it again…
For those of you who dont like his writing style do 2 things: Read the prose of someone who is infuenced completely by fantasy RPG games, and the Pendragon series. They make Eragon seem like fine literateur.
Off-topic question: Is your name supposed to be either Nighthawk or Nightwalk? If not, what’s a wawk?
59/57 – Hatemail is totally unnecessary. Just because you don’t like someone’s work or opinions doesn’t mean that they deserve hateful letters. Everyone has a right to their own opinions, yeah?
And reading the love-story in Eragon has made me wonder: has Paolini ever had a girlfriend/boyfriend? I’d guess not.
the book is odd. i have definetly read better books (then again i read about 100 books a day)
I liked eragon…especially for something by a15yr old. I thought the plot was fun…the characters arent that deep tho…The movie pretty much sucked tho, I thought they left a ton out…Ed Speelers and Jeremy Irons were pretty awesome…
52. Stormbreaker was pretty much awesome!!!! I’ve never found anyone else who’s read it. Have you read the rest of the series… my favorite was Scorpia…
52. stormbreaker, way cool
eragon, not bad either
Oooh, I loved stormbreaker!! My personal favorite was Ark Angel, though. But yeah, I think the movie really stunk, although both Eragon and Eldest were EXCELLENT. Baby Saphira was sooo cute…
And I agree with the hatemail comment. That’s totally unnecessary. The poor guy probably spent ages working on that book, he doesn’t need people telling him that it was a ‘stupidstupidstupid’ book.
Lolz hatemail would be funny… email away! But try to make some coherent points, don’t just say that it was bad.
Before doing anything, though, it might be worthwhile to examine your motivations. I’ll bet there are plenty of books in the world that you dislike. Why get so worked up about this one? I’d say it’s at least plausible that it might have something to do with the fact that (1) you’re all bright, young, competitive people and (2) Christopher Paolini is just a smidgen older than you are and has received a lot of attention. I won’t belabor the topic. But I will say that, speaking as a former bright, young, competitive person myself, my tendency to resent other people’s success is one of the characteristics of my then-self that I now recall least fondly.
Was that a GAPA sermon? Gosh. I haven’t done that for a while.
67+72+robert- yup. No hatemail please. How would you like it if you worked extremo hard on a book and then got horrible letters about how it sucked eggs? I for one would go in a corner and cry. But that’s just me ;D
Ahhh who are all these people I’ve never heard of?
*rushes off to Welcome newcomers thread*
Another thought: Christopher Paolini may even be a Muser, for all we know. He certainly fits the profile.
75 — If *I* worked that hard on anything, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
76: What profile? Girlfriendless nerdy 15 year olds with nothing to do?
78 some of us enjoy being girlfriendless…
77- ubb ok then…?
Argh! I saw the movie and it was the WORST THING I have EVER seen!!!! They screwed it up so bad me and my friend were ranting for days. Did anyone else think it was
a)incredibly LAME
b)corny
c) way off the plot
d)lacking important details that are essential to Eldest
e)not a was but ai Elbereth! the credit music was ROCK!!! Can it possibly get more unrelated?!
I personally think that if Peter Jackson directed it it would have been almost as good a LotR. Not quite, cuz nothing can bead LotR. But almost. I plan to rent Eragon when it comes out on video and watch it with the book by me so I can find a quote to counter all the botch-ups they made. Then I’ll make it into a huge petition for a remake!! hahaha!!!!! OK i’m finished ranting now. But seriously, I knew it was gonna be bad, but I didn’t expect ANYTHING that disgusting…
O another thing….the books were ok, but not great. the writing was decent but they were a TOTAL RIP-OFF of LotR!!! I’m like so obsessed with LotR you dont even wanna no, but it was most certainly a ripoff. I can’t say anything about the other series everyone’s talking about cuz i haven’t read those books, but the similarities between it and LotR are sooo obvious. Urgals=orcs
giant urgals=uruk-hai. dwarves in both, with lots of kh’s and o’s with circumflexes in their language, a secret forest of the elves, (omg i just remembered…did anyone else find it reaaally annoying that arya didnt have pointy ears in the movie?) Tronjheim is obvioiusly modeled off minas tirith, and brom is like gandalf. Oh also, the elvish language sucks! Quenya and Sindarin are so much nicer…pity Sindarin lacks known grammar though….
(82),
Speaking of Elvish grammar, have you read the e-mail interview Musers had with David Salo a few years ago? It’s on the Fan Page at
https://musefanpage.com/NewFiles/salo_answers.html
81 The movie was lousy, I would be way upset if I were Chris Paolini. I especially agree about leaving out stuff that will be important in Eldest…maybe they figure they’ve already screwed up so bad they’ll just make a whole new story out of Eldest….or maybe they are planning to be ripped appart by angry fans:)
i couldn’t agree more.
I found both books to be remarkable. It is ok to be inspired by other books. The movie however, was grap (big disappointment).
86-Sure, but i think the inspiration went a little too far…
and it wouldn’t be a terribly huge deal if he were even a really good writer, because it would be at least showing it in an interesting way, but the writing isn’t even close to as good as the other books that he’s ripping off, so why bother reading his?
OMG! THE BOOK WAS SO AWESOME! I’m probably gonna see the movie sometime this weekend, so for most of today, I might study the ancient language.
Now if I could only get an Eragon costume…
88 – Leather boots. brown pants, oldish looking shirt, black cloak, sword and dragon. The last item may be hard to find, but you can just pretend’s it’s invisible or something. The first few items were actually my halloween costume, but I was supposed to be somebody from lotr or medieval times, not from eragon. I actually found a really nice cloak. It was my great great grandfather’s or something. I really liked wearing it around the house before halloween to freak out my brother and sister, They thought I had turned goth or something. Anyways, if you really want a costume, check a rummage sale for most of those items. You’d be amazed at some of the weird stuff that can be there.
Why does [almost] everybody hate Eragon?! I LUV IT!!!!
I used to “luv” it, but now I’ve been reformed. Kudos to Pheonix for telling me to read the Belgariad.
A book can never just be O.K. for you people. You always need to find something bad about it. I for one loved the book! And if its to big for you people then dont read it!
92- Actually, we’re just stating opinions. Like what you just did. They just didn’t like it.
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I read the book, but haven’t seen the movie. (ducks pies) I know all you hate spoilers, but the book WAS actually good. (ducks more pies) Thanks for the reccomendation, kiki. Blah!
92-agree completely
The book was Ok (But I couldn’t make it through Eldest, wwwwaaaayyyy to slow). However the movie was, well to put it mildly; a shortened, odd, altered, uncreative, and mellow version of the book. it was created to hold the attention spans of a younger audiance and therefore included none of the character development that was present in the book, and made the story just like any other little kid dragon story. Did I mention it was incredibly short? One of the shortest movies I’ve seen in a theater.
So save your 10 bucks and don’t waste your time seeing the movie.
is there a name to the third book of eragon yet?
88- i agree the book was awesome and the eldest i cant wait for the third book 2 com out
Hey sorry, we’re the old cynics around here. The ones who have read the Belgariad. Which contributes quite a bit to my dislike of eragon at least, although i wasn’t thrilled with it to start.
I suppose that’s the real killer point about it, it all depends on how much fantasy you’ve already read. I mean, it’s not bad, but if you’re a big fantasy geek like me you’ve already read the story several times over in much more interesting versions. So it’s not terribly exciting, especially since it’s so predictable. I can see how it would be better if you read it before you read much other fantasy stuff.
88-Elvish is so much cooler. But geeky languages are geeky languages, so calo anor na ven and have fun insulting people who can’t understand what you’re saying. XD
Why the obligatory four letter profanity am i here? *rushes off to study more* Ugh. 10.5 hours until the AP US exam…
Our library does not own a copy of the Belgariad, sadly enough, so I have to get it on interlibrary loan.
My brother’s friend’s father owns a copy of every fantasy book David and Leah Eddings have wrote, which made it fairly easy for me to read them all.
(92)Content, not length, is the issue here. For instance, I read Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, a 870 page book, in two days. Even in the height of my fan-ism, it took me far longer to read Eldest, which is a couple hundred pages shorter.
you are all evil!!! THE INHERITANCE BOOKS TOTALLY ROCK!!! THEY ARE BETTER THAN HARRY POTTER!! MUCH BETTER!! RARRRRR!!!
i my opinion, i think eragon and eldest, which i am currently reading, and the movies was good. as i liked the battle with Durza in the movie that the book.
*Mega ginormous pies* Welcome to the museblog golden horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*saphira firepies* welcome to MB, golden horse. check out the computer and video games thread.
Go Eragon Book down with the Eragon movie
OMG THE MOVIE WAS HORRIBLE!!!!!!! There were bad camera angles, brom died at the wrong time, the egg was the wrong color, AND ARYA HAD RED HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The books are absolutely terrific though, i cna’t wait for the next one to come out. Any ideas of when?
Soon