Too Much Noise on the Blog?

A couple of MB veterans are getting frustrated with pointless posts. What do you think?

Dear GAPA person,

We are writing to you after a period of frustration with our fellow, usually lovely, MBers. We feel that it may be a time to instate a new rule. We have been also feeling rather nostalgic for the old days. We feel that the old days of conversation and getting to know each other have been lost amidst people posting eight times in a row with nothing to say. People seem to view the MB as a place to burn some time, not a place to converse with other Musers. We feel that it is important that the MB continue to be a place to spend time with other smart, intelligent, thinking individuals and not a place to go for time wasting inane conversation. We think that if MBers would realize they need to have something to say when they post, the MB would make a marked improvement. We would be conversing, discussing and enjoying ourselves. If you look back on the old threads, you see MBers enjoying themselves in true conversation just as if they were talking in real life.

Randomness is good, but it must be balanced with conversations with a purpose. You can have randomness, and still have order; it is the pointless comments we have a problem with. There is a difference between a random comment and a pointless comment. Too many of us have forgotten this difference, forgotten how to converse “Does anyone else hate the Red Hot Chili Peppers?” is a random comment. “OHMYGAH FIRST POST!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEEEEE!!!!!” is a pointless comment. We feel that too many Muse bloggers have forgotten what the difference is. Pointless comments shouldn’t be posted.

We feel that a rule or suggestion banning pointless posting would make the MB much more enjoyable, for newbies and veterans alike. We would appreciate it if you posted this on it’s own thread in the Museblog so that other Musers can add their thoughts.

Sincerely,

MontgomeryGurl and elassë~adael

96 thoughts on “Too Much Noise on the Blog?”

  1. Hear hear! Add me to the list! Although i am sometimes guilty… :oops: but i think that would make the blog a better place.

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  2. WHEEEE!!!! First post!!!!

    Just joking. Besides, I just had to find out what that felt like. (And now I see that I didn’t even get the first post. Too bad.)

    In the case of the monthly Random Thread, I think a lot depends on how you want to interpret “random.” It could mean anything from “all topics welcome” to “continuity not required” to “logic not allowed.”

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  3. ooopppsss…That was a pointless comment. From now on I will point out to myself that pointless comments are pointless and I should be trying to make a point in the blog.

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  4. Yeah, I agree, it makes it hard to catch up on what happened if I was gone for a few days when there are a hundred posts that I don’t find interesting or want to respond to. Even when I started posting at the end of last August, people rarely posted more than 2 in a row and there wasn’t much pointlessness, there could be a thread for pointlessness if people need it.
    It feels like I’ve been on here for so long compared to other MBers to be talking like that, but I haven’t really.

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  5. yesyesyesyesyes thank you thank you thank you thank you e~a and mg for saying this!
    I average coming on about once a week here. In the olden days, with the gaboomba, I could do this, not miss a thing. When museblog started, I still could do this, and stay relatively up-to-date. But now, with the influx especially of less mature Musers, it seems like the blog has about one “good” post among five pointless and inane ones. Frankly, I’d rather that we get fifty meaningful posts than get to part seven hundred of the monthly thread. What’s the point if all of it is “I [new post] am [new post] hyper [new post] whee!!!!! [new post] drive up the post count ppl!!! [new post] only [new post] five [new post] minutes [new post] etc”? It’s stupid, wastes time and blog and computer space, and nobody gains anything. Also, the one-liners with no important news are another pet peeve of mine. Who cares about getting first post when that’s all you’re saying? And the few of us who actually try to say thoughtful, meaningful things and have an ACTUAL CONVERSATION drown in all the crap. I actually miss the days of the Gaboomba, when people actually realized that they didn’t have to post the most posts of anyone, only posted when they had something to say, and used proper grammer/spelling (another pet peeve of mine- I’ve seen posts saying “im the most inteligant stu dant at my scholl”, with the poster expecting us to believe them. People, if you want to be taken seriously, at least spell most of your post correctly and use freaking commas and apostrophes! But this is a seperate issue.)

    I don’t know, maybe I’m just old and cynical, but it seems to me like a lot of the Musers here need to grow up and realize that nobody wants to read contentless posts.

    Okay, rant over, folks.

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  6. True, true, too-woo! I think that’s how it goes…but, in any case, I agree…it is somewhat annoying. I, too, am slightly guilty of this offense. Only slightly! As long as I’m being honest, I might as well be completely honest. But, nonetheless, I will try to restrain myself when I get the IPU (Infamous Pointless Urge).

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  7. nerdz you are bieng pointless
    i would agree compleatly but i would have to disagree because i am a random poster so what i think is that it is good to be aware of what you are posting
    -person-

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  8. MG and e~a: I def agree w/ you guys.

    These “pointless” comments have started to bother me as well. I just don’t like it when ppl chain post – That’s probably my biggest pet peeve here now. I know longer posts are more tedious to read, but it’s better than making 37 little posts + taking up a heck of a lot of space. I can cut ppl a little slack in the random thread…just b/c, well, it’s the random thread.

    And…I seriously don’t see why we have to get six random threads this month. What is the point here? And why six of them?

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  9. YES! i agree. pointless comments are fun for the poster, but not for anyone else to read. i know sometimes i post them, but i will try to contain myself from now on…

    i think we just have way too many MBers at this point, and no one really knows anyone anymore… ah well.

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  10. Hmmm…. I try to put somthing into my posts at least. While I do not argue that the types of post you refer to are a waste of space, I also have to point out that I put a lot of pointless things that I find slightly amusing or odd in them.

    Haikus are easy
    But sometimes they don’t make sence
    refrigerator

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  11. I like the new rule as well.

    Although I am guilty of posting some rather annoying posts, I think it is an excellent rule and will make the blog a much nicer place to be :)

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  12. Another note: posting a lot on the random thread is okay, but again with the waste of space. It used to be that if you made it to a new part you would get the Phyllis Nickle as a reward. Don’t ask. Point was, it was just a bonus. You’re supposed to be posting things that don’t go anywhere else, like the funny thing that happened to you’re friend or somthing about you. Also, first posts are fun, yes, but confine yourself to things like *first post dance* at the bottom of a meaningful comment. Please. Okay, I’m going to stp there now. Thats all i have to say. at the moment.

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  13. Zyka, Ruler of the Universe, Queen of All Things Un-Cursive, and Procrastinator of the Highest Degree says:

    10)Six because it shall be a record. I don’t know why else.

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  14. Let’s have some “designated pointless posting threads”. Self-explanatory. Or else we’ll randomly pointlessly post on this thread. No, actually I’m for it. Not having to read 100 posts to catch up if I miss a day would be a good thing. But sometimes almost all of us need to post pointlessly. The GAPAs can help if pointlessness gets out of hand too.

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  15. Isn’t the monthly thread the designated pointless posting thread? Or is that just for general randomness? Either way, i think that’s an excellent idea. All in favor say “w00t w00t!”

    w00t w00t!

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  16. I think the issue here needs a better solution than just a thread designated for silly posts. The MuseBlog is for conversation and randomness, not pointlessness. I think that there should be no silly posts on the museblog

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  17. Too true……
    For a while I was thinking of leaving like MG, but when Rosanne came back, it was better. Yes, I agree completely. Please stop. I have almost never made a pointless comment. Also, no stretching. This is a plea for peace!!!

    Let’s call in Dr. Decibel.

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  18. I agree wholeheartedly. It’s gotten boring as hell.

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  19. Just remember, people, some people like to be pointless sometimes. If it would solve anything, then the GAPAs might just want to make a Pointless Post thread, so that people could get out their pointlessness somewhere else and read others’ pointless posts and those who didn’t want to could leave it alone.
    I say this because sometimes something is pointless to one, and not the other. This may be a good solution

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  20. We could have a monthly “discussion” thread alongside a monthly “whatever” thread. I don’t think any of the administrators want to start having to zap frivolous posts just because they’re frivolous. We have enough to do already.

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  21. †FrigidSymphony† We came, we saw, we conquered you all, we came, we saw, we live by the sword! says:

    23: Good idea.

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  22. If you want to make pointless posts, request a pointless post thread.

    To put it bluntly:

    Gee, I wonder why I left MuseBlog in the first place?

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  23. Different people want different things from the blog. (World domination, for example–that’s something to look forward to.) We’re all fairly clever people here; we should be able to please everybody, more or less, if we set our minds to it. The GAPAs are at your service, within reason, and await your ideas.

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  24. We should be able to post whatever we want under the following rules:
    MAKE SURE IT IS SOMETHING WORTH TALKING ABOUT
    NOTHING VULGAR
    OR INNAPROPIATE

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  25. That’s all wrong. The blog should be the subject of other people’s nightmares.

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  26. Correct.
    We have a monthly disscusion thread, a world domination thread, a PPP thread, a Museica thread, (can i omit the ‘thread’) Ships logs, NaNoMo, RRR, Poetry,,and SSS. There are a few others that I hve ommited because those were the ones I could name off the top of my head.
    Now, SSS. ALL senceless, pointless, uncontroled, un connected, unhelpful etc should be confined to the SSS.
    Thank you for reading my nonrant/rant.

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  27. I have to argee tho i am sometimes guilty of it myself. I do think the worst thing is the people who quadruple post with random stuff just to quadruple post. but this is random!!! its a place to have fun. Randomness should be ok. Just not pointless randomness.

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  28. I do concur. With my school projects, I hardly have enough time to come to the blog as I had during the summer and at my old school.

    Didn’t we discuss this on another thread?

    Perhaps the GAPAs could delete all “FURST POSTE!!!one!!!” posts, except the one that is actually the first post?

    6- Heck yes. I did miss a while.

    10- Chain posting is annoying. Double posting is one thing, if someone clicked Submit and then realized that [s]he forget to say something else, but any more than that is just unacceptable.

    28- I agree wholeheartedly. If someone intends to completely bash something, that person should at least provide clear, pertinent arguments. We can hate things politely here.

    Maybe we need a new Focused Topics/Chameleon Thread? From birds to Zoo Tycoon to architecture….

    Those were the days. The recent days, actually…

    Is there any way to force posts to bounce back and not be submitted if they lack a certain number of characters? That may be too harsh, though…hmm… Or too many smileys?

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  29. Queenie J, Queen Julietaini the Flamablamablous and Fr00dy of Kiador, Kokomando and Der Wachtelschlag Fliegender, Juliette RWSOC8042 says:

    Random (adj): Haphazard; arbitrary; unfounded.

    In my opinion, the Random thread should have lots of non-connected topics but topics.

    I agree with Monty and Alise. Gospodin Coontz, do you still have the old GaBoomBa files as examples of genteel conversation?

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  30. 33- I was going to sugguset a new focused topics. or we could use the disscussion thread for focused topics.

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  31. please. no totally pointless posts that are like one word long. although that probably includes my endless rows of smileys :cry:

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  32. I haven’t been around long, so I don’t know if I am qualified to comment on this, but:

    Double posting doesn’t bug me. If you have multiple topics to post about, it makes a certain amount of sense to start a new comment for that. I haven’t done that though, out of respect for those whom it bothers.

    I think that it would really help if people didn’t post unless they really had something to say. A lot of clutter is produced with people simply agreeing with eachother.

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  33. I agree exactly. I admit i was guilty in my younger days, before i really understood this was a place for fine conversation. i am sorry. i will try to do better. i am fairly good at being random, so i think I will survive.

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  34. hail MG- the reformer of museblog.

    weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *does 40th post dance* (see footnote)
    mbers have a compulsion to be random and pointless, but that doesn’t belong on all threads- it should stay to the mothly random thread

    what about a rule against anything longer then a double post unless say, 10 minutes has passed.

    footnote-displays of hyperness are allowed provided they don’t compose the entire post, and instead are only andintro, as in this post

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  35. I don’t think we should have RULES, neccessarily. It kind of takes away the fun from MuseBlog. I mean, I know how it’s all so annoying, but if you just explain it, people will most likely follow it. I just don’t like the idea of rules on MuseBlog… It’s the place where we can get away from rules!
    Just follow the guidlines of politeness.
    But not boringness.

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  36. 41- “rememeber guidelines, not rules” is a common saying in a creative writing class I took.

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  37. (39) It’s ok. No one needs to feel bad. Peace, love and pies :D

    1)Double posting is ok, if you forgot to say something. But posting fifty times just because your bored is a little much
    If you ARE bored, check out more threads. Spread your comments out over some of the older, sleepier threads, instead of clogging the ever-popular Random Thread.

    2) READ the threads. Reply to other comments! Even if it means not saying somehthing you wanted to say, everyone gets a happy little bubble inside when they see their name in some one else’s post. So include everyone! Make eachother feel loved! Be happy! Sing! Skipper shut up!

    Thanks e~a and and MG for bringing this up. I’ve been having trouble keeping up, so it’s nice that we’re addressing this problem.

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  38. That reminds me, man for aeiou, i think people should proofread their posts somewhat before posting. No offense intended; it just makes things easier to read. I don’t know where MG quit. That must have happened rather suddenly when i wasn’t here. It seems to have become a famous event in museblog history.

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  39. 41 – I think there need to be at least some rules, because otherwise the blog would go absolutely haywire.

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  40. 50th post!!!*see addendum

    If the discussion thread is where we discuss things, what do we do on the random thread? I’m against pointless posting, but I’d hate to see the random thread reduced to a rambling wasteland where the only posts are FIRST POST!!!-esque ones. I’m for having the random thread be the one with conversation and there being a Pointless Posting thread.

    Addendum: I have decided to put at the top of all my posts the number of the post with happy little dances and celebrating. A way to unleash my inner pointlessness.

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  41. I agree with this.

    I’m proud to say I’m generation one (yes, you are blinded by my shiny badge. -blinds all-) and honestly, MB has gotten a lot more fast paced, and not in the good way! I value “randomness” as a part of a balanced breakfast, but really folks! I stay away from the monthly random thread because I simply can’t follow what ends up being a stream of consciousness. Even the Hot Topics thread has had post grubbing and pointless “this is my opinion, I’m right, go die” type posts, which is very discouraging.

    I think one of the problems is that Musers approach this more as a message board than a blog. The fact is, what we’re doing is having the GAPAs make basically one line blog posts and then using the comments as a form of communication! (Very resourceful~ Way to stick it to WordPress. Actually, I just hate WordPress a lot and I felt like saying that. Anyway.) As such, comments like “Why isn’t anyone on? ): ” are by people unclear on the concept. This isn’t instant messaging….

    Diverted a bit there, but still. I agree.
    In the beginning we had two, maybe three (if we were feeling particularly spammish) of the monthly random threads.

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  42. i think we should have some “pointless posts allowed” zones and some “pointless posts not allowed” zones. pointless posts could be allowed to a certain extent on the random threads, for example, but nt on the discussion threads. Most threads should be “pointless posts not allowed” but we have to have one or two places where they are allowed so the people who want to make pointless posts can do so without getting in the way of those of us who don’t want them. And i think the GAPAs should be able to zap pointless posts on places where pointless posts are not allowed, but leave them on places where they are allowed.

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  43. Oh, god yes. The random thread can be used for random posts and such, but otherwise, random/pointless post just clog up the Museblog, make more work for the GAPAs and irritate all of the sensible Musers. Really, spamming pages (esp. Hot Topics or other more serious threads) is pretty disrespectful. Let’s grow up, Musers!

    Cheers,
    Zal

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  44. ME AGREE> it really bugs me when peepsles rite something like
    “OMG I THINK THAT CHEESE IS REALLY GREAT AND YEAH SO OMG I HATE BRITNEY SHE IS SO MEAN AND LIPGLOSS IS GREAT OMG I BROKE A NAIL AND OOOOOOOOOOOOH PRETTY COLORS
    IN THE SKY AND MY DOG’S NAMED SKYE AND I LIKE DOGS AND DOGS ARE FUN AND MY DOG IS A HUSKY AND HUSKIES ARE FUN, AND I LIKE COMPUTERS UH OH, I HAVE TO GET OFF THE COMPUTER NOW AND TAKE A SHOWER I LIKE CHEESE AND BRITNEY IS A MEANYPUSS.”
    fyi, i don’t know anyone named britney or anything, i was just extrememly hyper.

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  45. (53) o__o What an amazing thing to say… -mind reels- Whoa…

    Anyway, yay for struture! I like the new
    discussion thread” a lot, thanks GAPAs!

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  46. †FrigidSymphony† We came, we saw, we conquered you all, we came, we saw, we live by the sword! says:

    i think the whole forum should convert from a blog-type webpage to the average forum-type webpage (for examples see the average band forum- Sonata Arctica, metalreviews.com…)

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  47. What? And be average?

    Just kidding. What I really mean is “What? And spend more weekends learning and configuring another complicated unfamiliar software package?” We administrators do have lives of a sort, you know.

    Besides, a couple of us have been spending a fair amount of our free time lately on another MB-related project. We can’t unveil it just yet, but you’re going to love it. Promise.

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  48. †FrigidSymphony† We came, we saw, we conquered you all, we came, we saw, we live by the sword! says:

    59: actually, you would hardly have to spend any time at all. It’s a very simple, web-wide used forum style and the moment you see it it’s obvious the way it works. It’s also good because in every sub-section of the forum, the threads with the latest posts come to the top, therefore threads that have moved to the back of the page don’t get forgotten. Moderators can lock threads and edit posts at will.

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  49. 59- Oooh, a surprise? *bouces up and down* Really? What kind of surprise? No, don’t tell! *wiggles*

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  50. Thank you so much for doing this, Because I am busy I can’t read a million posts that are alll “WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE” yeah I know even I was a newbie to MB over summer during part 4 of the pie war but even then there seemed to be less ‘spam’ to put it that way.

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  51. 59- Tell me!!! I can’t handle more suspense. I would continually ask (i.e. tellmetellmetellmetellmetellme…), but it’s wise not to anger those who support you, and I’m addicted to Museblog. Please!

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  53. What happened to my post? Huge swaths of it are not loading. Why didn’t the text wrap? Why wasn’t it moderated out? 42. No, still not it.

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  54. 66- that, ladies and gentlemen, is a pointless post.

    I am just as curious as the rest of you however I have not posted a post consisting of just please.

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  55. (68) On the bright side, the post used the proper word with an “l” and not the Dreaded Unmentionable. *shudders*

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  56. Yes. Would have to say so. xD. There is a lot of clogging posts. Like this one. :D

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  57. I think that we should keep the monthly random thread open for those people who want to post eight times in a row, or have a separate thread for them. Some people like to post eight times in a row (present speaker excluded) and I feel that it is slightly unfair to deprive them of the odd form of joy they get from posting x times in a row.

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  58. i think we should keep randomness!!! if you really want serious posts, make a separate thread! :mrgreen:

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  59. A rubbish thread for grammar-not-required, spelling-not-required, sense-not-required, smiley-ridden, consciousness-deprived posts would be an excellent idea.
    Can the GAPAs move posts to different threads? For example, if on the Very Serious Topic Full Elizabethan Speech Thread, stupidperson111 posted “hahah u suck i am teh pwnre”, it could be removed to the rubbish thread.

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  60. Alas, moving posts from thread to thread is beyond our GAPA abilities. Maybe we’ll be able to do it after we finally make the big leap to WordPress version 2; I’m not sure.

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  61. You could copy what they said, delete the post, and post it under your own name with a note that it’s from stupidperson111. but that would be a lot of work.

    [I’ve done that before, but you’re right: it isn’t much fun.]

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  62. 33- Thatnks for agreeing. Did I spell that right?
    41-There have to be SOME rules. Not alot, but a few. After all, we don’t want our beloved blog becoming a porn site. Do we?
    72- Tottally awesome idea.

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  63. OMG I feel so stupid. On post 76, I was trying to type thanks and I messed up. :oops:
    Hey! That’s a good example of a pointless post.

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  64. I doubt that musebloggers would start posting porn. The best thing would be to have a situation like metalreviews.com, where the moderating is rare because the forumite themselves want to keep it a decent site. Any porn or advertisements get zapped, but otherwise, the forumites moderate themselves.

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  65. If u go to ‘whos here’ and press enter u can read a story thats farily good but beware theres hardly good stuff and its reallyyyyy BORING!!!!!!!(except for the end haaaa)

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  66. 56- thank you. i am fairly good at improvising random crap.

    GAPA’s- I AM NOT ON THE WHO’S HERE THINGY! SHOULD I FEEL BAD? OR IS THAT FOR SPECIAL MBers WHO HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ME?
    *sniff*
    sorry, i guess that was random.
    80-that would be extremely entertaining

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  67. (81) No slight intended, Cheese Monkey. Merely a question of when there’s a chance to catch up. And entertaining for whom, pray tell?

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  68. 82: ENTERTAINING FOR ME! because that is every one’s main purpose in life hehe. just kiddddddding, yeah, probably for the GAPAs own amMUSEment
    hehehhehehe
    hyper

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  69. (83, 84) Not as entertaining as you might think. Zappage is, after all, a form of censorship, not something we take lightly . And at least one of us *cough moi cough* agonizes over such things to the point of probable absurdity.

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  70. does wordpress 2 mean html allowed? thats cool.
    i like the current arangement (as i infer that the current arrangement is)
    serious people go to discussion, all others go to random. i like it.

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  71. We should ban SM2K’s clone from posting. She post really random stuff in the middle of an un-random thread. She’d get really mad. I know her. She gets mad over everything.

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  72. 85: i was just thinking about what was right for everyone..
    *sniff*
    *sniff*
    *lip quiver*
    *SOB*
    *sniff*
    i’m okay. seriously.
    WHHHHHHHHHHHHA

    jk.

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  73. yeah, i hate it when people are talkin seriously and then someone messes up the train of thought and posts someting completely random. they should either have a completely serious thread or a completely random thread. i can honestly say that i never post random things, all my posts have a point(even when the point is known only to me!!!!)

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  74. u no it is kinda sad because this thread is talking about stopping compleatly pointless coments but alot of comments on here are pointless

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  75. who knows the exact definition of random…we should see what it means before taking drastic measures.

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  76. one more thing
    there sould often be a random craziness thread
    so we can get out our craziness then and type normal stuff later

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  77. Gosh, even back then? I wasn’t here, so I wouldn’t know… But, but… *sobs* That letter was so *sniff* so touching! And, *sniff* so close to the problem we face now. Thank you *sufflez* Purple PAnda! *goes into deep sob*

    The sad HAWK :( :( :( :cry:

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