RRR, v. 2007.2 – Science-fiction, Part 5
The story is complete. The next phase is underway.
Continued from Part 4.
Date: August 2, 2007
Categories: Fiction, poetry, and fanfiction
Saturday, 18 May 2024
Life, the universe, pies, hot-pink bunnies, world domination, and everything
The story is complete. The next phase is underway.
Continued from Part 4.
Date: August 2, 2007
Categories: Fiction, poetry, and fanfiction
I ordered the Writer’s Market for children’s authors, but I’m not going to sit and twiddle my thumbs till it arrives! No, I shall continue to search!
I think our story may be more original than I ever though. I can’t find a book even remotely like it, though in my searching I came across a few that looked interesting…
What? No, of course I’m not getting sidetracked!
But if it original, maybe we can submit it to Strider Nolan after all!
But whatever. There are publishers not listed in the Writer’s Market, however all-powerful it may appear.
Of my eleven publisher suggestions, few remain. Very, very, few.
OnStage Publishing
The odds are against this one. They only publish 5 titles per year and they receive 300 queries and 500 manuscripts every year. But we could try, I guess. I’d have to look at their catalog to see if they’d want our story.
Strider Nolan Publishing, Inc.
This is dubious. They’re looking for manuscripts with something new to say, and much as I love our story, it doesn’t fir that requirement. Nonetheless, they say they’re interested in working with new authors, so it could be worth our while to send it in.
Ach well, better go look for some more.
By looking under different subjects in the subject index (i.e., “Juvenile” instead of “Children’s”) I have found more publishers. I have not yet looked into them because I’ve barely started, but at least one ought to be good. Maybe . . .
Hooray! Another thread! I was just thinking today that maybe we needed a new one…
Anyways, the search continues. Are you using the Internet now, or still that book?
4- Still the book. It’s quite useful, but I have to have the internet on hand anyway.
Ad Lib Books, LLC
Most of their books are from first-time authors, all from unagented authors, which is good. They take science fiction, and they take juvenile, and although it says nothing about young adult, I’m sure that they would accept that too.
Or I think they would.
Barton Book Press
Once again,l they take juvenile and sci-fi, and say nothing of YA.
“We want full-length, quality fiction, and edited novels displaying strong characterization, plot, theme, and believable settings.” Do we fit that? I think so, but you can’t tell. Feedback? “Our audience is interested in the highest quality fiction with solid characterization and ingenious story lines. Interesting series welcome. An agent is not necessary if your writing is strong.” Okay… I wouldn’t call it the highest quality fiction, and our story line isn’t exactly ingenious. And there’s the fact that the editor (or at least the editor then) is named Michelle Parent…
Diskus Publishing
This publisher takes space fantasy, science fiction, and YA. Sounds good, no? In fact, it sounds really good… Except that you need an author bio. But we can deal with that, right?
Farrar, Straus, & Giroux Books for Young Readers
They don’t specify what kind of YA they take, but they take YA. They’re big, so the odds are low (really low), and they publish “original and well-written material for all ages.”
Hendrick-Long Publishing Co., Inc.
They– oh wait, never mind. “Hendrick-Long publishes historical fiction and nonfiction primarily about Texas and the Southwest” and so on. Not that one.
Arthur A. Levine Books
They publish YA, and are willing to work with first-time authors, even if they don’t have an agent. That’s the kind of thing we want.
Stillwater Publishing Co.
Not the best odds but not unthinkable, and they”are willing to consider anything that’s well-written, except heaven/hell and demon stories. And the publish YA. What more do we need?
Viking Children’s Books
It doesn’t specify a genre, but it seems fine. Publishes high-quality fiction for all ages, etc.
DagBooks
A small press, published 3-4 titles a year, but really fast. They say they respond to queries in a week. They take young ault and science fiction among other things, but they focus more on humor, cartoons, and short story collections, or did in 2005. E-books, pet-related topics, material that isn’t widely available elsewhere… Not the most likely, but not unlikely.
That’s all I have right now.
Ad Lib Books won’t do, they want novels that are 80,000 words or longer, and they are not currently accepting submissions anyway. On to the next.
Barton Book Press isn’t in business anymore. I can’t find their site, and a directory said that they weren’t in business anymore. So.
Diskus Publishing. Hmm. Their site looks fairly amateurish, but that doesn’t say a whole lot. I don’t think it’s what we want, though. Oh I see, they’re e-books.
Arthur A. Levine probably isn’t what we’re looking for. They don’t accept unsolicited manuscripts outright, but they do look at query letters and synopses. It doesn’t seem quite right, either. Fantasy and realistic fiction, rather than sci-fi.
Stillwater is just weird. It’s definitely not what we want. It looks more like a directory full of ads than anything else.
Farrar, Straus, & Giroux Books for Young Readers is big. Too big, almost. Same goes for Viking, but Viking is slightly smaller and we’d have bigger chances of success if we tried the latter.
They (Viking) don’t normally accept unsolicited manuscripts. I did, however, find DAW, which is looking for sci-fi and fantasy, and doesn’t mind unsolicited manuscripts. They might not take YA though. In fact I’m fairly sure they wouldn’t, but it won’t hurt to e-mail them.
DagBooks are pet-related.
So I e-mailed DAW. And I probably sounded really childish, but I asked the question, and I tried to sound professional.
how about cricket publishing. I have no idea if they will publish something by amacures but you could try. this alsos takes away the museblogers name problem.
8- Yeah. I can ask SUPA MUSE EDITAH a.k.a. Romana about that poskibility.
8- I don’t think so. Maybe, though.
“Cricket Books publishes picture books, chapter books, and middle-grade novels.” Are we middle-grade? I’ve been thinking of this as more YA, and it’s hard to imagine this book even remotely connected to Cricket.
Or did you mean the magazine? I don’t really want to put this in Cricket, for several reasons. One, it’s too long. Two, I don’t like the way Cricket has evolved lately (unless I’m just too old, that might be the problem). Three, I don’t get Cricket anymore.
But that’s just me.
I may have found a publisher. Absey and Company. They publish young adult, and the only thing left is to find out what kind of young adult they publish.
Here’s one that looks good. Adventure Books of Seattle:
Hard Science Fiction – no fantasy, or anything resembling fantasy. Due to the number of submissions in this category, we’ve decided to narrow this field a bit further, and try to make it clearer for authors. We DO NOT seek ‘Star Wars’ type material, or books based on ‘contrived universes’. A contrived universe-based book is where the author invents entirely new worlds and societies that have no relation to life on Earth in any form. Unless your book is a very good example of this type of writing, such as ‘Dune’, we would probably reject it.
Ours is set in our Solar System, which is what they want. I’m not sure if they accept YA, though. I’ll ask.
Ready to hear something stupid? I was looking in the nonfiction section of the subject index the whole time. By looking in the Young Adult section of the fiction half, I found a few more publishers.
Bancroft Press
Yes, again. They say that they only publish YA, but earlier Meow said that they didn’t publish YA. Which is right?
Baycrest Books
This looked good from the description, but it seems that although they take YA and scifi they don’t take things that are both. And they’re not accepting submissions. Onward!
Medallion Press
They no longer take young adult submissions. Darn.
Royal Fireworks Publishing
They seem okay. They’re “concerned about the values,” whatever that means, but the only thing that concerns me is that they don’t want swearing, and I’m not sure what they think of as swearing. “She swore”? Because we have stuff like that. “Darn!”? Because we have stuff like that, too. But they aren’t explicit, so I think that this one would be good.
The other that I had found is closed. Back to using the internet.
I HAVE SENT THE EMAIL. now all we have to do is wait.
Bother. I found one that looked quite good, but they wouldn’t publish works from young people.
There are a lot of e-publishers available.
14- Okay. I’m waiting for a couple of emails myself, one from DAW and one from Adventure Books of Seattle, both replying to my question “do you publish young adult?” I wonder if they will reply.
Darn. Adventure Books of Seattle does not publish young adult. *sigh*
I might have FOUND IT!!!!!!!!!!
Highland Press:
“Highland Press is looking for outstanding manuscripts of all time genres . . . We’ve just released our first Young Adult book . . .”
Outstanding? Maybe not, but certainly good. I ought to look at their list first though. Just a sec.
The list didn’t tell me much, but I suggest we lay this aside until we have no other choice. It appears to be mostly romance.
OnStage Publishing looks really good, actually.
Keep looking Alice! You’re being really perseverant here…
Grrr. ROMANA ANSWER YOUR EMAIL! She’s an editor, for god’s sake. Doesn’t she check her email once in a while??
This has happened before. Oh, and no offense to Romana.
I can’t speak for Romana, but I can tell you that Muse‘s publishers, Carus Publishing, no longer publish YA fiction. They’ve pretty much stopped printing new kids’ books altogether.
Argh. Bother.
There’s got to be a market for this somewhere. All we have to do is locate it.
This is harder than it seems. =/ I’ll try and talk my mom into taking me to the library today to look at the publishers of YA science fiction books.
I’m annoyed now. -_- I was going through this GIANT list of publishers, and I had a couple found (Adventure Books of Seattle was the best so far, they look really good!) and then my Internet crashed.
The link to the website is anotherealm.com/prededitors/peba.htm because there is no way I’m going to get through that entire list myself.
Adventure Books of Seattle doesn’t publish YA. Did I already say that? Oh yeah.
26- I am going to the library tomorrow. It’s a really small library though.
27- I think I may have gone through that list, just a minute.
Yup. I went through the whole list, and didn’t find anything really likely.
Does anyone have the slightest clue why this RRR was so productive?
Spaced link to a very helpful-looking site. (It appears to be a publishing house, or at least a bunch of links to a publishing house, so I think it’s mostly harmless.)
http: // www. locusmag.com/ Links/ Publishers.html
Ooh. Tor and Forge Books looks good. I’ve read the guidelines, and they don’t say anything about not accepting material from young people. As long as we don’t send homemade cookies or anything. (Yeah…read their guidelines if you don’t get it.)
Right. I’ll search further in the morning. It’s ten minutes to midnight here.
It came! Yippee! *goes off to read it eagerly*
I got a little bit sidetracked when I found the interviews (interviews yay!), and haven’t actually got around to looking for publishers yet. Sorry. I’ll do that now.
Canix should come to this thread, and Stormwatcher. And Penty, because she’s practically the Muser Mascot of Publishing and always looks like she knows what she’s talking about, although it is so hard to be sure over the internet. In fact, anyone even remotely interested in publishing should come here. We could use the help.
AMULET BOOKS
This looks good. It takes YA scifi, among other things. And there is an interview. I’ll go read it. Oh. I see. The catch: They don’t take unsolicited manuscripts.
BANCROFT PRESS
This still looks fine. They do take YA.
BLOOMING TREE PRESS
Yesyes. This looks very good indeed, although the fact that they said, “Write what you know, not what’s ‘in'” is a bit discouraging. Still, this isn’t “in” even if it isn’t quite what we know. And they take scifi, so they can’t take that too seriously.
DAVID FICKLING BOOKS
There is a dirth of info on this publisher inside the covers of this book, but they do consider all categories so I suppose it’s fine. They’re international.
FLUX
We will try this one. We have to. They want writers who know their audience, read teen books, and don’t condescend. Since we ARE teenagers/pre-teens, then we’re just the people.
HOUGHTON MIFFLIN CO.
So-so. It’s possible.
LOBSTER PRESS
A Canadian book publisher, but they don’t say that they don’t take books by Americans. It looks fine.
MATTHEW PRICE LTD.
Another international publisher. There isn’t a lot of info about them either, so more research is required. But they accept YA scifi.
PAULA WISEMAN BOOKS
They publish all categories, standard length, pretty basic. No special information, therefore quite likely, at least till I look at the website.
No, no…I’m here I just haven’t been posting.
37- Then help!
Alice, what book was it that you were using? My mom (I told her about our problem) clipped an article out of the paper and it recommended using Childrens Writers and Illustrators Marker 2007 as a guide and I thought you were using something similar, although I couldn’t remember.
39- Exactly what I’m using. Well, I was using The Deluxe Writer’s Market 2005 for a while, but I switched to this.
39- Are you Meow? Or someone else?
I’m looking that book that Peregrine Falcon recommended (and similar ones) up online and I’ll say what I think about them.
Children’s Writers and Illustrators Market 2007:
Specifically for children’s books. Somebody in the reviews mentioned something about teen books, but idk. 5 stars on Amazon.
Writer’s Market 2007:
No children’s label on it this time…4 1/2 stars on Amazon.
It apparently leans heavily towards article, which might be a problem.
There are apparently over 1000 publishers in this book. (:shock:)
Writer’s Market [strong]2008[/strong]:
4 1/2 stars on Amazon
It’s especially writing for magazines, just like the last one. =/ This bugs me. There is a small section on agents, all of whom are seeking new and established writers. Maybe…it costs 20 dollars, though…
Novel & Short Story Writer’s Market 2007:
5 stars.
One review tells us to avoid PublishAmerica, because they scam you. That’s helpful…
Specialty areas for science fiction. Good. @_@
The listings are 95-100% accurate. (We’ve had problems with that…)
This one sounds the best yet.
Guide to Literary Agents 2008:
Over 400 agents and agencies listed.
Do we really need an agent, anyways?
Meh. Blooming Tree says this:
“Because of the overwhelming response and faith in our company, we at Blooming Tree Press find ourselves needing to give our full attention to the submissions we have and the fall line we are putting out for 2007. Any non-requested submissions postmarked after May 1st 2007 until November 1st 2007 will be sent back unread, if there is correct postage for a return.”
Onward!
David Fickling Books is very hard to navigate and I can’t find the submission guidelines, so I’m putting it aside…
YES! I found an Arthur Ransome site! Yayayayayayayayay! Sorry that this is totally unrelated to our mission, but that is SO COOL!
Ahem. Back to Flux. It looks very good. It’s slow responding, but it still looks highly likely.
Okay, I’ll continue to look in a couple of hours, right now I have to go watch the sheep.
looked at my bookself. foun that I have books from simon and schuster and hyperion mirmax.
simon and schuster does not take unsolicited manuscripts.
nether does hyperion.
soory for not being help full.
42-I have that book! o.k. the libery has it but still!
BLOOMBURY BOOKS
looks good. cheack website
FARRAR,STRAUS AND GIROUX
please look at.
I’ll get more later
42- It has books for teens too.
No we do not need an agent, and that’s interesting about WM.
44- Most big publishers don’t take unsolicited manuscripts. It’s best to check out the smaller ones.
45- I can’t remember what was wrong with Bloomsbury, but it was definitely a problem. Either they didn’t take unsolicited manuscripts or they didn’t take works from young people. I’ve read tons of Bloomsbury books in the past, and I was kind of hoping they would take it, but something didn’t work out…
I never got around to looking at Farrar, Straus, and Giroux. Anyone who would like to do that, please do.
I’m going to keep a sort of log, listing all th publishers we have looked at and what was wrong with them, in alphabetical order, then it’ll be easy to figure this stuff out.
*pant pant* *wipes brow* Well, we’re organized. This is a mess! *goes off to continue organizing*
46-I’ll look it up.
Literary fiction, nonfiction, poetry and children’s books.
Nope.
Baen:
100,000-130,000 words
So no.
Tor and Forge:
Accept writers without agents.
FIT OUR GENRES PERFECTLY! They publish science fiction (and fantasy) and have one section (“Starscape”) for 10 and up and one (“Tor Teen”) for 13 and up. We’d fit in one of those categories, although I’m not certain for which.
I seriously like these guys.
Circlet Press:
Publishes science fiction.
Nevermind. They don’t accept submissions of 10,000 words or longer. There’s another reason, but I don’t exactly feel like saying it, or think that I could post it on MuseBlog.
Ooh, this sounds like a good book. [Sorry, random, I’m searching through Google and this came up as a result.] The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Publishing Science Fiction. 4 1/2 stars on Amazon. Maybe we should look into this. (Idk…)
AWESOME! Wiki has a page on sci fi publishers and articles on all/most of them. Wikipedia might be a good place to look up specific publishers.
DAW Books:
We’ve looked these guys up before. They publish sci fi and do not want books shorter than 80,000 words. (How long is ours, again? It was either 50,000 or 80,000, I remember that.)
Nevermind, the Wiki articles stink. They’re all stubs. =/ Back to work…
*sigh* We’re not finding anything new. Alice, while you’re organizing all this, can you make a list of all the publishers that we haven’t found anything (or only tiny things) wrong with?
49- Our story is roughly 52,000 words. DAW is also for adult books. Tor and Forge I really think is the most likely right now, and I will move Baen around on the list. (I think they’re on the “likely” list until I get around to fixing that.)
I like the idea of the Complete Idiot’s Guide to Publishing Science Fiction.
50-Tor & Forge and Flux sound really good, so far. Are you going to post your complete list on here once you’re done?
51- Yeah, but I got a bit sidetracked. By discussing the RPW with Gwen, by reading The Pushcart War, and then by making a list of things in case the GAPAs ever make another “You know you’re addicted to MuseBlog when…” thread.
[/non-subtle hint]
I’ll get on with that. I’ll post it when I’m done.
Okay. The hard part is done, now I just have to organize it.
Righty-o. Here ’tis.
STORY:
Science fiction, young adult, approximately 52,470 words long.
PUBLISHERS:
PROSPECTIVE:
DAVID FICKLING BOOKS
There is a dirth of info on this publisher inside the covers of this book, but they do consider all categories so I suppose it’s fine. They’re international.
David Fickling Books is very hard to navigate and I can’t find the submission guidelines, so I’m putting it aside…
If necessary, we can return to this.
FLUX
We will try this one. We have to. They want writers who know their audience, read teen books, and don’t condescend. Since we ARE teenagers/pre-teens, then we’re just the people. It looks very good. It’s slow responding, but it still looks highly likely.
HIGHLAND PRESS
“Highland Press is looking for outstanding manuscripts of all time genres . . . We’ve just released our first Young Adult book . . .”
Outstanding? Maybe not, but certainly good. I ought to look at their list first though. Just a sec.
The list didn’t tell me much, but I suggest we lay this aside until we have no other choice. It appears to be mostly romance.
MOOSE ENTERPRISE BOOK AND THEATRE PLAY PUBLISHING
It’s Canadian, for one thing, but that’s not necessarily a problem. They want “moral quality” though, and I’m not sure we have that. They also want a bio of the author, and since we have many authors that all desire to remain fairly anonymous, that kind of nixes that.
If we really wanted to do Moose Enterprise, couldn’t we do a “About the authors” thing that explains MuseBlog and stuff? And maybe each person could get a sentence or two of describing themselves. I’m still not sure if we fit the “moral quality” bit, though.
Ian does get hung up on ethical issues every now and again. But I don’t think it counts.
ONSTAGE PUBLISHING
The odds are against this one. They only publish 5 titles per year and they receive 300 queries and 500 manuscripts every year. But we could try, I guess. I’d have to look at their catalog to see if they’d want our story.
It looks very likely, as a matter of fact. More likely than some.
STRIDER NOLAN PUBLISHING, INC.
This is dubious. They’re looking for manuscripts with something new to say, and much as I love our story, it doesn’t fir that requirement. Nonetheless, they say they’re interested in working with new authors, so it could be worth our while to send it in.
TOR AND FORGE BOOKS
Ooh. Tor and Forge Books looks good. I’ve read the guidelines, and they don’t say anything about not accepting material from young people. As long as we don’t send homemade cookies or anything. This is the most likely one, along with Flux.
UN-PROSPECTIVE:
ACEN PRESS (a division of DNA Press)
They publish children’s, adult’s, and YA. The problem? “All books should be oriented to explaining science even if they do not fall 100% under the category of science fiction.” Are we explaining science? If we are, then this is an ideal publisher. If we are not, then it’s not.
We are not, therefore his publisher is not right for us.
AD LIB BOOKS, LLC
Most of their books are from first-time authors, all from unagented authors, which is good. They take science fiction, and they take juvenile, and although it says nothing about young adult, I’m sure that they would accept that too.
Or I think they would.
Ad Lib Books won’t do, they want novels that are 80,000 words or longer, and they are not currently accepting submissions anyway.
ADVENTURE BOOKS OF SEATTLE
“Hard Science Fiction – no fantasy, or anything resembling fantasy. Due to the number of submissions in this category, we’ve decided to narrow this field a bit further, and try to make it clearer for authors. We DO NOT seek ‘Star Wars’ type material, or books based on ‘contrived universes’. A contrived universe-based book is where the author invents entirely new worlds and societies that have no relation to life on Earth in any form. Unless your book is a very good example of this type of writing, such as ‘Dune’, we would probably reject it.”
Ours is set in our Solar System, which is what they want. I’m not sure if they accept YA, though. I’ll ask.
They don’t take YA.
AMACOM BOOKS
AMACOM delivers classic and innovative business solutions for crucial business concerns. Our editorial mission is to help individuals increase their skills and knowledge, improve organizational performance and illuminate vital business issues.
AMULET BOOKS
This looks good. It takes YA scifi, among other things. And there is an interview. I’ll go read it. Oh. I see. The catch: They don’t take unsolicited manuscripts.
ARTHUR A. LEVINE BOOKS
They publish YA, and are willing to work with first-time authors, even if they don’t have an agent. That’s the kind of thing we want.
Arthur A. Levine probably isn’t what we’re looking for. They don’t accept unsolicited manuscripts outright, but they do look at query letters and synopses. It doesn’t seem quite right, either. Fantasy and realistic fiction, rather than sci-fi.
AVALON
Under its Avalon Books imprint, Thomas Bouregy & Co., Inc., publishes hardcover secular romances, mysteries, and westerns for the library market. We produce sixty books titles a year in bimonthly cycles of ten. A cycle consists of two career romances, two general romances, two historical romances, two mysteries, and two westerns.
AVON BOOKS
Books of romance, mystery, and adventure. Right now we are looking for romances in three particular areas–historical romance; contemporary romance, including romantic suspense; and African-American romance. Dorchester — Dorchester book publishers has been involved in the publishing of mass market books since 1971. From its founding, we have strived to bring the freshest authors to millions of fans. Although mostly known for Romance, Dorchester also publishes world-class Horror and Westerns under its Leisure Books imprint.
BAEN
We publish only science fiction and fantasy. Writers familiar with what we have published in the past will know what sort of material we are most likely to publish in the future: powerful plots with solid scientific and philosophical underpinnings are the sine qua non for consideration for science fiction submissions. As for fantasy, any magical system must be both rigorously coherent and integral to the plot, and overall the work must at least strive for originality.
Those manuscripts which survive the “first cut” as outlined above are then judged primarily on plot and characterization.
Style: Simple is generally better; in our opinion good style, like good breeding, never calls attention to itself.
100,000-130,000 words
BARTON BOOK PRESS
Once again,l they take juvenile and sci-fi, and say nothing of YA.
“We want full-length, quality fiction, and edited novels displaying strong characterization, plot, theme, and believable settings.” Do we fit that? I think so, but you can’t tell. Feedback? “Our audience is interested in the highest quality fiction with solid characterization and ingenious story lines. Interesting series welcome. An agent is not necessary if your writing is strong.” Okay… I wouldn’t call it the highest quality fiction, and our story line isn’t exactly ingenious. And there’s the fact that the editor (or at least the editor then) is named Michelle Parent…
Barton Book Press isn’t in business anymore. I can’t find their site, and a directory said that they weren’t in business anymore. So.
BLOOMING TREE PRESS
Yesyes. This looks very good indeed, although the fact that they said, “Write what you know, not what’s ‘in'” is a bit discouraging. Still, this isn’t “in” even if it isn’t quite what we know. And they take scifi, so they can’t take that too seriously.
Meh. Blooming Tree says this:
“Because of the overwhelming response and faith in our company, we at Blooming Tree Press find ourselves needing to give our full attention to the submissions we have and the fall line we are putting out for 2007. Any non-requested submissions postmarked after May 1st 2007 until November 1st 2007 will be sent back unread, if there is correct postage for a return.”
BOOKHOME
Our mission at Bookhome creates books that help people build better businesses and live better lives. We are interested in proposals or manuscripts in the areas of small business, home business, and the writing and publishing business. It is possible that we could fall in love with an idea that falls outside of these areas, but chances are slim. (Very unlikely)
BRANCH AND VINE PUBLISHERS, LLC
This sounds like a good one. “Audience is anyone that appreciates good fiction and likes to be surprised by plot twists and living characters. Know your market. Here’s a secret: Editors are concerned about only 1 thing, ‘Will this manuscript make money?’ Other than that, know how to tell a good story. Don’t be afraid of revisions, and read, read, read! Also check website for updates; submissions are not open year round.”
Do we fall under this category? Plot twists? Living characters? Will it make money? Not afraid of revisions? (Okay, the answer to the last one is no, we’re not, but the others?)
No longer in business.
THE CHARLES PRESS
Subjects that we are currently interested in include instructional (how-to) books, psychology, parenting, criminology, true crime and suicide, but we will consider books in different areas as well. We do not accept poetry, children’s books, short stories, science fiction, westerns, romance or humor.
CIRCLET BOOKS
Publishes science fiction.
Nevermind. They don’t accept submissions of 10,000 words or longer. There’s another reason, but I don’t exactly feel like saying it, or think that I could post it on MuseBlog.
I can imagine what, but I’d rather not.
CRICKET BOOKS
“Cricket Books publishes picture books, chapter books, and middle-grade novels.” Are we middle-grade? I’ve been thinking of this as more YA, and it’s hard to imagine this book even remotely connected to Cricket.
“I can’t speak for Romana, but I can tell you that Muse’s publishers, Carus Publishing, no longer publish YA fiction. They’ve pretty much stopped printing new kids’ books altogether.” – Robert
DAGBOOKS
A small press, published 3-4 titles a year, but really fast. They say they respond to queries in a week. They take young ault and science fiction among other things, but they focus more on humor, cartoons, and short story collections, or did in 2005. E-books, pet-related topics, material that isn’t widely available elsewhere… Not the most likely, but not unlikely.
DagBooks is pet-related.
DAW BOOKS
We publish science fiction and fantasy novels. We do not want short stories, short story collections, novellas, or poetry. The average length of the novels we publish varies but is almost never less than 80,000 words.
I did, however, find DAW, which is looking for sci-fi and fantasy, and doesn’t mind unsolicited manuscripts. They might not take YA though. In fact I’m fairly sure they wouldn’t, but it won’t hurt to e-mail them.
DISKUS PUBLISHING
This publisher takes space fantasy, science fiction, and YA. Sounds good, no? In fact, it sounds really good… Except that you need an author bio. But we can deal with that, right?
Diskus Publishing. Hmm. Their site looks fairly amateurish, but that doesn’t say a whole lot. I don’t think it’s what we want, though. Oh I see, they’re e-books.
FRONT STREET
This one also sounds good, but I can’t say until I’ve researched more thoroughly. All this say is that they publish YA sci-fi.
“Front Street’s young adult fiction often deals with children in crisis or children at risk, offering hope and succor, however difficult the subject. Our picture books emphasize art and design. We strive to expose young readers to the best literature available in other countries, cultures, and languages.”
GENESIS PRESS
Genesis Press Inc. is the home of Indigo Romance, the nation’s leading line of African-American romance novels. Genesis is a pioneer in publishing diverse lines of romance, including: Tango Two, which features Hispanic leading characters; Love Spectrum, which concentrates on interracial romance; and Indigo After Dark, a more sensuous romance line. [What is with all the romance?! – Cat’s Meow]
Now that’s very good question.
HARLEQUIN ENTERPRISES
Harlequin Book Publishers is a wholly owned subsidiary of Canadian communications giant Torstar Corporation, publisher of Canada’s largest metropolitan daily newspaper, the Toronto Star. Creates titles for Harlequin, Silhouette, Red Dress Ink and MIRA.
That doesn’t tell us much. I’ll check out the website. Let’s see…Books for Women who Love to Read. Dang. It’s women’s fiction. Nope.
HENDRICK-LONG PUBLISHING CO., INC.
They– oh wait, never mind. “Hendrick-Long publishes historical fiction and nonfiction primarily about Texas and the Southwest” and so on. Not that one.
HYPERION MIRIMAX
Does not take unsolicited manuscripts.
JAMES A. ROCK AND CO., PUBLISHERS
“Exhibit a love of language, of Western Culture, and of writing. A ‘gift of laughter and sense that the world is mad’ won’t hurt.”
I love language, and I love writing. I love all cultures. But this book doesn’t exactly showcase that. I’m not sure it’s what they’re looking for.
LITTLE BROWN AND CO. CHILDREN’S PUBLISHING
We need an agent for this. If we think we can get an agent, then perhaps we should consider it. If not, not.
We can’t.
PUBLISH AMERICA
We publish more new titles than any other traditional book publisher.
We accept more new and unpublished authors than any other traditional book publisher in the nation.
Do you have an age requirement?
All authors published with PublishAmerica sign a contract to have their work published. As such, we can only enter a contract with those authors who are eighteen (18) or older.
Can I use a pen name?
Yes. We will need your legal name on the contract and for payment purposes; however, we can publish the book under a pen name. One word of caution: publishing is inherently a public act—releasing the work to the public; therefore, we cannot guarantee any author’s anonymity.
ROBBIE DEAN PRESS
At first glance, it’s perfect. 90% of the books are from first-time authors; all of them are from unagented authors. They don’t like working with agents, they publishes books for students from elementary school to college. But they wants books focused to be a college text. I don’t really get it, and therefore will have to pass it by. It probably means it’s for school, and this isn’t really a book I can imagine reading in school.
STILLWATER PUBLISHING CO.
Not the best odds but not unthinkable, and they”are willing to consider anything that’s well-written, except heaven/hell and demon stories. And the publish YA. What more do we need?
Stillwater is just weird. It’s definitely not what we want. It looks more like a directory full of ads than anything else.
ROYAL FIREWORKS PUBLISHING
They seem okay. They’re “concerned about the values,” whatever that means, but the only thing that concerns me is that they don’t want swearing, and I’m not sure what they think of as swearing. “She swore”? Because we have stuff like that. “Darn!”? Because we have stuff like that, too. But they aren’t explicit, so I think that this one would be good.
The website doesn’t look quite right. Maybe I’m being picky, but still. They’re for “gifted children” and although gifted children could certainly read this, I’m not sure what gifted means, exactly, and people who aren’t gifted could read it too.
SIMON AND SCHUSTER
Simon and Schuster does not take unsolicited manuscripts.
STYLEWRITER, INC.
I haven’t much to say to this one. It could work, it could not.
Stylewriter no longer exists.
VIKING CHILDREN’S BOOKS
It doesn’t specify a genre, but it seems fine. Publishes high-quality fiction for all ages, etc.
Does not take unsolicited manuscripts.
WINDRIVER PUBLISHING
This looks good. It doesn’t like “graphic or gratuitous” swearing or violence, but I don’t think we need to worry about it. We never swear, and the violence is not graphic and definitely not gratuitous.
WindRiver no longer accepts unsolicited manuscripts, and now looks like some sort of religious press.
NOT MUCH INFO/UNRESEARCHED:
DEL REY
Their website didn’t have much, but they only publish Sci Fi and Fantasy.
PENGUIN PUTNAM
They didn’t have much, but they publish at least some sci fi.
BLOOMSBURY BOOKS
Looks good. Check website
ABSEY AND COMPANY
They publish young adult, and the only thing left is to find out what kind of young adult they publish.
HOUGHTON MIFFLIN CO.
So-so. It’s possible.
LOBSTER PRESS
A Canadian book publisher, but they don’t say that they don’t take books by Americans. It looks fine.
MATTHEW PRICE LTD.
Another international publisher. There isn’t a lot of info about them either, so more research is required. But they accept YA scifi.
PAULA WISEMAN BOOKS
They publish all categories, standard length, pretty basic. No special information, therefore quite likely, at least till I look at the website.
BANCROFT PRESS
Bancroft Press publishes science fiction and YA. I haven’t really checked out their lists or anything yet, but I think it will be fine.
FARRAR, STRAUS, & GIROUX BOOKS FOR YOUNG READERS
They don’t specify what kind of YA they take, but they take YA. They’re big, so the odds are low (really low), and they publish “original and well-written material for all ages.” This one is big. Too big, almost. But not *quite* too big. If we never try big publishers, we’ll never succeed. I say we should check out the submission guidelines.
TIPS:
352. Rebecca Lasley (Administrator) | August 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pm
(351) Try looking for recent books that are the same genre and intended for the same audience as this one and see who the publishers are.
354. Alice | August 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pm
352- Good idea. But I don’t generally read sci-fi so I don’t know of any. Bother.
356. Cat’s Meow | August 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pm
352-Good idea. Problem is, I’m with Alice. I don’t usually read Sci Fi…
42. Cat’s Meow | August 8th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
I’m looking that book that Peregrine Falcon recommended (and similar ones) up online and I’ll say what I think about them.
Children’s Writers and Illustrators Market 2007:
Specifically for children’s books. Somebody in the reviews mentioned something about teen books, but idk. 5 stars on Amazon.
Writer’s Market 2007:
No children’s label on it this time…4 1/2 stars on Amazon.
It apparently leans heavily towards article, which might be a problem.
There are apparently over 1000 publishers in this book. ( )
Writer’s Market 200:
4 1/2 stars on Amazon
It’s especially writing for magazines, just like the last one. =/ This bugs me. There is a small section on agents, all of whom are seeking new and established writers. Maybe…it costs 20 dollars, though…
Novel & Short Story Writer’s Market 2007:
5 stars.
One review tells us to avoid PublishAmerica, because they scam you. That’s helpful…
Specialty areas for science fiction. Good. @_@
The listings are 95-100% accurate. (We’ve had problems with that…)
This one sounds the best yet.
Guide to Literary Agents 2008:
Over 400 agents and agencies listed.
Do we really need an agent, anyways?
If it fits…
Now I get to go do more research! Yay. I’m already tired, and it’s only 9:10.
From ghoulies and ghosties and HarperCollins websites, and all things that go BUMP! in the night, good Lord, deliver us.
Yeah.
If anyone ever figures out how to navigate HarperCollins, please tell me. I can’t even find the submission guidelines.
PYR
It would be great if they took YA and books under 80,000 words, but they don’t. So it’s not great. Yeah.
SPECTRA PULSE
Also weird and un-nagivable. So no.
DEL REY
Eep weird site! Okay, I’m trying. It’s weird though.
Well, it doesn’t take unsolicited manuscripts.
VOYAGER
Oh god. Another HarperCollins Imprint. Preserve us.
No…wait. I found something. Something -gasp- USEFUL. Well, comparatively. They don’t take unsolicited manuscripts.
ORIONBOOKS
Looks excellent, if only I could find the submission guidleines… Nice covers for their YA books, intriguing titles… Oh, sorry. I’m not looking for stuff to READ. Gotcha. Sorry. ≥≤
Well, after much frustration, I found the guidelines. And guess what they said? They don’t take books from new authors unless submitted from an agent. GAH!
Orbitbooks.net
Yes, yes, we know. They don’t take unsolicited mss (manuscripts). Bother.
So much for that list. Good night.
♪Guess what I found! ♪
David Fickling Books is an Imprint of Random House. Which does not take unsolicited manuscripts.
NO.
Bother.
We need an agent.
56- OMG!!!!
Romana (supah editah ladeh) says it’s “on the boards”. So this is our best hope yet!
57- You mean they’re thinking about PUBLISHING it??????? ALREADY?????? *rushes off to finish editing*
Wow. That’s awesome!
I have a few words to say about the Cricket thing. They aren’t bad words, but they aren’t strictly good words. You could call them confused words.
I think it wonderful that Cricket may publish the book. I am willing to lay aside all of my complaints with Cricket, especially since our story fits the new Cricket better than the old anyway. There is only one small flaw.
I don’t subscribe. I really want to see it in print, and to see what other people think of it, and if it was in a magazine that I haven’t read for almost a year, that would be sad.
60-You could get a subscription just for a year or something, just long enough to read it. Or get it from the library. I dunno.
*sinks in* THEY MIGHT PUBLISH THIS IN CRICKET!? OMG. @_@
Wait. I have a question. If it gets published in Cricket, it will be one of the multi-part stories. Each of the parts will probably be only about 2000 words long. We have a 50,000 word story…
61- I know. It’ll take two years. More. Do they do that? Kiki, you didn’t forget to mention how long this story was, did you?
If this happens, I’ll just get it from my library. I haven’t the money to get a subscription.
This is what they say on length of submissions:
Length
Stories: 200 to 2,000 words (2 to 8 pages)
Articles: 200 to 1,500 words (2 to 6 pages)
Poems: not longer than 50 lines (1 page, 2 pages maximum)
An exact word count should be noted on each manuscript submitted. For poetry, indicate number of lines instead. Word count includes every word, but does not include the title of the manuscript or the author’s name.
I suppose Kiki would know, seeing as she has Connections, but it seems a bit unlikely…
DAW finally wrote back. Here is what they said:
Dear Alice,
We are not really a YA publisher, though we occasionally publish a book
that is suitable for both the adult and YA market.
MEJ
So.
64-Is that for Cricket? Ouch…that seemed really likely, but the length kills us. Hey, I have an idea. I wonder if they could put the first 8 chapters or so (basically what we already have edited) in the magazine over a period of 6 months or so, and then at the end of it (which concludes at a VERY suspenseful point, may I add, considering that I just finished reading those chapters) give people a link to the rest of the story online, hoping that by that point people would die if they didn’t read the rest.
64-That’s a no, basically.
Lol, MEJ sounds like a Container name. *random*
60- I thought if you got something in, they gave you a year’s subscription free? They used to I think…
Wait… I thought they were going to stop Cricket? Eh, who knows.
I do think this would be to long for that mag, unless they had it be at least twice their limit… this is to long otherwise…
64- Grr. Not cool.
65- I don’t think we want to do that.
MEJ does sound like a Container name. Can it be coincidence? Or something else?
Obsessive? Me? Never!
We’d pretty much take over Cricket for a year trying to publish this in there.
I think Kiki neglected to mention how long this is.
Well, Tor & Forge and Flux still look the best. I’m going to continue editing without Penty’s scene.
67-We could suggest it if absolutely nothing else works…it’s better than nothing.
I’m going to post the entire submission guidelines for Tor & Forge (and Flux, if I can find it):
Submissions guidelines
How do I submit writing to Tom Doherty Associates, LLC?
We have an open submissions policy and consider tens of thousands of projects a year. Every proposal that reaches us is reviewed by at least one member of the editorial staff. We apologize in advance for replying primarily with form letters; unfortunately, there’s no other way to handle responses in a timely manner.
Please read this entire section before submitting; following our guidelines will ensure you a fair hearing by our editorial staff.
Please note that these guidelines are intended for writers who do not have agents.
Your submissions packet should include:
The first three chapters of your book, prepared in standard manuscript format on white paper. (If your chapters are really short or really long, or you don’t use chapter breaks, you may send the first 40-60 pages of your book, provided you stay under 10,000 words.)
The submitted text must be made up of consecutive pages and should end at the end of a paragraph, not in mid-sentence.
Standard manuscript format means margins of at least 1 inch all the way around; indented paragraphs; double-spaced text; and Courier or Times Roman in 10 or 12 pitch. Please use one side of the page only and do not justify the text.
Do not bind the manuscript in any way. Make sure the header of the ms. includes either your name or the title of the book and the page number (on every page).
A synopsis of the entire book. The synopsis should include all important plot elements, especially the end of the story, as well as aspects of character development for your main characters. The synopsis should run between three and ten pages in standard manuscript format.
A dated cover letter that includes your name and contact information and the title of the submitted work. Briefly tell us what genre or subgenre the submission falls into and mention any qualifications you have that pertain to the work. Please list any previous publications in paying markets.
A self-addressed, stamped, business-size envelope for our reply letter.
Unfortunately, it’s no longer possible for us to return submissions due to a change in postal service policy that requires packages weighing more than a pound be mailed at a post office. Since we use a company mailroom rather than a post office, when we try to return submissions, they are sent back to us by the postal service or disappear in transit.
We recycle your proposals. (That’s not a euphemism for being tossed in a wastebasket–we recycle all white paper.)
If you live outside the United States, please go to http://www.usps.com/onlinepostage to see internet postage options.
If you do not include an SASE, you will not receive a reply at all.
Please send only one proposal in each submissions packet. If you have written a series, send a proposal for the first book only. If we like what we see, we’ll ask for the rest.
Many people include postcards for us to return when the proposal reaches us. Unfortunately, we don’t open submissions until we’re ready to read them, so you’ll likely get the “I got it” postcard the same day you receive our response to your project.
If you want to be sure that your manuscript was delivered to our offices, please ask for a return receipt or a signature confirmation when you post it.
Don’t stop reading! Here are some tips to help the whole process work smoothly:
Don’t send a query letter. It’s practically impossible to judge a project from a query. We’d rather see your proposal.
Don’t send submissions or inquiries by email or fax. We do not respond to emailed or faxed submissions, queries, or inquiries about the status of submissions.
Don’t send disks. We want to read words in black type on white paper. And it’s not that we don’t trust you, but your system might have viruses you don’t know about.
Don’t send us the only copy of anything. Things get lost in transit.
Don’t send interior or cover art or an author photo. There’s time for that later, if we like your project.
Don’t send jewelry, food, toys, 3-dimensional representations of anything, or anything that might be construed as a bribe. Over the years, we’ve seen all of the following and more: handmade bracelets and earrings, anatomical models, home-baked cookies, fine fabrics, fancy bookmarks, cocoanuts, fancy manuscript boxes . . ..None of this has any impact on our consideration of your work. The work has to sink or swim on its own merits.
Thanks!
Send submissions to:
Tom Doherty Associates, LLC
175 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10010
Address submissions as follows:
Paranormal Romance: Acquisitions Editor, Paranormal Romance
Science fiction and fantasy: Acquisitions Editor, Science Fiction and Fantasy
General fiction of all types including mysteries, thrillers, mainstream fiction, women’s fiction, and horror: Acquisitions Editor, Fiction
Children’s and Young Adult: Acquisitions Editor, Children’s and Young Adult Division
Note: We publish books for chapter book, middle grade, and young adult audiences. We do not publish picture books.
Generally we respond to unsolicited submissions within 4-6 months. Unfortunately, your manuscripts and our replies sometimes go astray in transit. Because of the volume of submissions, it’s not possible for us to track down any individual project; please don’t call for a status report. If you have not heard back from us after six months, please resubmit.
And here’s the stuff for Flux:
Submission Guidelines
Thank you for your interest in Flux. We are always looking for new submissions and queries from all writers. We accept submissions directly from authors (including first time authors) and from literary agents.
Seeing your book in print is the reward for a long and arduous creative effort and we understand and respect that. But, please remember that publishing is a business and you need to be prepared, well informed, and realistic. Use your library or the internet for a variety of excellent “how to get published” guides.
Patience is a virtue — given the volume of submissions Flux receives, it can take six months for us to respond. If a manuscript requires a second read, it may take longer.
Flux accepts complete manuscripts and proposals. Outlined below is the procedure for submitting your materials. Note: we do not accept proposals on disk or by fax.
Your submission must include the following:
Cover letter containing a brief description of the project and the contents of the package.
An outline and synopsis of the book.
Brief summary of the author’s background and credentials.
Complete manuscripts must be double-spaced with 1-inch margins in 12-point type on white paper. Please number the pages.
Total word count for the book.
[strong]Your complete daytime contact information including telephone and email.[/strong]
Name, address, and phone number of agent (if applicable).
Only send copies of your material and keep the original for your records.
Please inform us if this is a multiple submission and include the number of current submissions.
If you wish to have any material returned, include a self-addressed, stamped envelope. If desired, include a self-addressed, stamped blank postcard for acknowledgement of receipt of materials. Submission of unsolicited materials is done at the author’s risk of loss or damage.
The volume of submissions does not allow us to accept phone calls, e-mail, or other inquiries, or to provide comments or feedback on unsolicited manuscripts. We will contact you only if we are interested in your proposal. Please direct your proposal and any additional questions to the address below.
Flux
Acquisitions Division
2143 Wooddale Drive
Woodbury, MN 55125-2989
They both sound great, except for the contact information bit for Flux. =/ But, I mean, that’s sort of expected…
Now I’ll look more at the others.
DAVID FICKLING BOOKS:
These guys published Roald Dahl. @_@ They can’t be all bad…(Sorry, biased. xP)
“Although Random House is a big publisher, each imprint only publishes a small number of books each year. Our lists for the next few years are already very full. Any book we take on from a previously unpublished author has to be truly exceptional and so we strongly prefer to consider manuscripts that are sent to us by literary agents and would suggest that you try to get taken on by an agent first. They are in the best position to assess your work, send it to the most appropriate publishers, and negotiate on your behalf should your work be accepted for publication. Literary agencies are listed in The Writers’ and Artists’ Yearbook, which is published annually in paperback by A & C Black and can be found in all good bookshops and libraries.”
You need an agent. These guys are nos.
HIGHLAND PRESS:
“Romance, Historical, Contemporary, Fantasy, Paranormal
Men’s and Women’s Fiction,
Inspirational, Young Adult, Children’s…and more..”
YA=Good
No sci-fi=:(
“While we have predominantly focused on historicals to date, this does not mean we are not willing to consider well written stories of every time period.”
This seems unlikly.
Moose Enterprise:
Accepts: Adventure, Historical, Horror, Humor, Military/War, Mystery, Plays, Regional, Science Fiction, Short Story Collections , Western, Young Adult, story poetry
I can’t find anything else…
Sounds like Moose Enterprise is your best bet so far…And it has the word “moose” in it, so it must be good!
Right. So we need to do a little bit more research on how to publish and what to expect, then finish editing and send it in. I suggest we send it to Tor & Forge first, and if they don’t accept (they probably won’t), then we will try to fix the contact info. I’m quite willing to give mine if necessary. It’s kind of something I knew we would have to do.
Uh-oh. Moose Enterprise (nearly typed Muse Enterprise) is probably no longer in business. Their page out to come up when I google it, and it doesn’t.
Moose Enterprise is the name of an Australian toy company.
Aha! Found it!
Good Day to You.
This Publishing House offers a welcome to those authors and illustrators that take the courage to submit their work in hope of acceptance.
Be you an amateur, professional, a first time author or a diamond in the rough seeking assistance, we aim to be of assistance and offer to you the resources of this Publishing House.
Our Publishing House extends a deserved respect to the author by considering and replying to all submissions.
We welcome the general public searching for titles to satisfy their reading needs, book stores, library and distribution services searching for titles to satisfy their client’s reading hunger and foreign publishers seeking foreign publishing rights.
Within these pages we will introduce ourselves, present our mandate, highlight authors – their works and successes, list our many available titles – their jacket copy, our submission guide-lines, company contact data and ordering information.
With thanks we are pleased that you have visited Our Publishing House.
As the Days progress we will be updating and providing further information for you, our visitors.
The Best of the Day to You.
Looks good so far…
Hmm. They take submissions from the US, and they seem very nice.
MEEP. Take a look at their submission guidelines:
Our submission guide-lines.
Include an SASE, (and /or an international mailing coupon if mailing from outside of Canada), a double-spaced manuscript, 12 pt font, [copies of manuscript (2 to 3 chapters), Title page should contain – Title – copyright date, – day – month – year the work was first conceived. Your full name, – first – middle – last. Your full date of birth, – day – month – year. (if providing illustrations include several samples, not originals), note that illustrations are the responsibility of the author and/or their illustrator, ], a full mailing address, telephone and fax numbers, an E-Mail address, a personal Biography, your full name, a date of birth, citizenship, a pen-name, who you are, what you do for a living and for relaxation, your aspirations, a title list of your works with a short Biography for each, two or three lines. Do not include reviews, awards or past accomplishments, I judge an author and their work by the story before me. Note if you wish material returned or recycled and if you wish material commented upon, (we will edit one page for you and give our opinions).
Try Moose Hide Books to find them.
71- Indeed. Haha.
o_0 That’s a heck of a lot of stuff for them to request from us.
75- I KNOW! I’m shocked. It’s more stuff than I would EVER put on MB.
76-Citizenship? That’s gonna be a bit difficult.
I vote Unlikely on that one.
Guys. NOT CRICKET MAGAZINE! Cricket Publishing! Ya know, Cricket Publishing doesn’t just do mags…
It’ll be a book, no worries.
78- Oh, good, that makes much more sense.
Eep, that’s a lot for Moose. Unless they’re planning on selling biographys of the author on the side I don’t see why they’d need it all…
78- Good. I wondered about that.
Sheesh.
78-I knew that. xD *sigh of relief*
Did you e-mail her back with more details?
We need an agent. Donaldo got one, maybe we should give it a try.
Being the horribly bored girl that I am, I’m going to adapt this into a screenplay.
Jadestone, if you’ve made any edits recently, could you please send them to me? I’m sort of desperate(ly obsessed).
84-Yay!!
can people also look for fanstasy? that is for etheterre. please help!
-stagnant-
Romana is in Canadia until the 10th. Just telling ya.
Bah.
86- All in good time. We don’t even know how long Etheterre is.
Have you heard from Romana yet, Kiki?
I feel rather like I have come to a standstill. Did I ever send you the fully edited version? I would post it here but I don’t see the point, seeing as how both E2MB and Canix are gone, and I can send it to you and Jade if you want it. Meow doesn’t come on much anyway, and Stormwatcher has yet to show the slightest bit of interest in reading the story.
Though TMFA might want to read it. Maybe I could send the story to the GAPAs and they could send it to TMFA and Stormwatcher?
I don’t really feel like posting it on the blog, if you couldn’t tell. Just because I have to go dig out the thread, and then wait for the horribly slow story to post, and I’m really lethargic, and yeah.
89- I have read the old version on the top of the edit therd.
90- Yeah, that’s not a very current version. I’ll send the GAPAs the new one eventually, and they can send it to you.
91- the Gapas don’t know my e-mail. but I’ll send them a musecast think some time.
i think i’ll go post stuff on all the rrrs i am on…
92- But they have to know your e-mail for you to post.
93- my parents are worry safty-wise. I use a fake one.
Sorry about dying so often.
Any more progress on getting it published with Cricket Publishing? Any word back from them?
MEOW! You’re back! Yay!
Romana said she would get to it ASAP, but clearly is hasn’t been ASAP yet.
Oh dear. I should go to bed soon.
96-Temporarily, at least. I dunno how long this stint’ll last. None of ’em seem to last long. xD
Yeah, hopefully she hasn’t forgotten permenanantly. =/ Maybe she’s just humoring us.
Me too. xD Tomorrow I shall attempt to find out if MB is blocked at school or not. @_@
Put not thy faith in editors, for they are forgetful and slow to…slow to do anything, often.
97- Yeah, you seem to forget often.
98- That would explain why they always say in their submission guidelines that it will take months to get back to you and not to remind them.
RRR v. 2007.2 … once the most-developed, fastest growing and active RRR on Museblog … now another archived chapter in MuseBlog’s thick history.
Enough lementing.
Incredible amount of time and research, spent into finding a publisher, Cat’s Meow and Alice. Wow. But it looks like nothing ever happened.
This is just sort of a casual suggestion I thought up. Someone may have already suggested it: the Editors of Muse say it’s hard to fill Muse with Muse. Why not send our manuscript to Muse? Maybe they could print it over several months or years, doing 1-3 page installments every issue. It could keep readers for quitting their subscriptions because they would want to know what would happen, and Muse is in desprate need of more readers, or at the very least, no less. Do you think this is the sort of thing Muse would accept, GAPAs?
I’m going to go prod Kiki now. *takes out stick and heads off toward emailland*
101-That would take forever…I mean, at 3 pages per issue, we have what? 300 pages? We’re already looking at 2 years right there, and issues aren’t even once per month. Besides, Muse is more science…something like this would be better suited for Cricket, but we already decided that wouldn’t work.
103- MEOW! You’re BACK! For how long?
We need an agent! My dad said he’d help me find one when I finished a novel…
104-Who knows, really? =/
Does this qualify? If we could get one, that would open up a whole bunch more possibilities…
Wasn’t there also Tor and Forge books or something that we never eliminated? We were going to try Cricket first, but we still might try them…
105- Our conversation is as follows:
Me: Hey Daddy, you remember the other day, you said you’d help me find an agent when I finished a novel?
Daddy: Yes?
Me: Well, what if I didn’t write the whole thing by myself?
Daddy: *laughs* Sure. You’ve finished a novel?
Me: It’s an RRR. We finished it ages ago.
Daddy: I’m sure you could get one just by looking on the internet.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that he won’t help, but I think I’ll try my hand at it before enlisting his aid.
Yes, there were a couple publishers that we wanted to try, but if we got an agent it would be so much easier. Kiki hasn’t heard anything from Romana, so I don’t think Cricket will really work.
106-Agreed…Cricket’s taking too long, no offense to them. Lol
How does this sound:
Now accepting fiction and nonfiction submissions. Traditional publishing models no longer work. Wilson Devereux employes new methods and technologies to help first-time authors get a start and published authors find new markets and incerease sales. From Dummies to literature to popular science and even Braille, Wilson Devereux will help you find your place in the publishing universe.
Unfortunately, agents cost money, and spare money is something I don’t have…
I found a few more. I’m reluctant to post them on the blog because they could be, I don’t know, copyright, or something.
108-It sounds like it would only be published online or something…
109-As long as we’re not selling the descriptions or anything.
it lives!
111-Barely. Let’s keep it this way.
112- we have had four post today!
110- Oh, not good. I don’t want this to be an e-book.
114- IT is an E-book. this is on line, and there a book, so thats an e-book!
115- That brings me to the real problem. I’m not sure we can publish this, since it’s already been published. Here. On the Blog.
116-I don’t think that counts, though…I mean, surely a publisher wouldn’t reject it just because it was posted on a website for others to add onto and edit…
We might have to delete all of the threads on the blog relating to it, though. 0.0
118- that would be tough.
118- I don’t think we could.
120-Really? Ow…
121- Maybe. The GAPAs could feasibly go back and delete all the comments containing story, or two out of three comments containing story or something like that, but, a) it would be a LOT of trouble for a dubious cause, b) not everyone involved has a copy, and it would be still more trouble to get one to everyone, and c) it feels sort of traitorous to delete the story from MuseBlog, where it was inspired, written, and edited.
I miss this story. *sniffle*
I’m gonna go bug Kiki now. She needs to send me the story.
Oh dear god. I knew I should have posted it on MuseBlog. It’s gone.
I emailed Kiki, and she said she didn’t have it, but THF did. So I emailed THF, and I haven’t got a response from her but I did get another response from Kiki, who said she thought THF was the Keeper. Thing is, I was the Keeper. So if THF doesn’t have it, and Kiki doesn’t have it, and I don’t have it, and I never got around to posting it on MB (STUPID! STUPID!), then it’s gone.
OH GOD.
*keels over*
Good thing they didn’t delete all the comments, then.
124-woops. oh well.
I think I have a bit of it. Not completely edited or finished, but it’s better than nothing.
No one seems to think it’s quite as big a deal as I am making it. Good. *wipes brow* There’s still a lot on the edit thread, too.
128- I posted on the edit theard. this is why I said “SEND IT TO THE GAPAS IN PDF FORM SO PEOPLE CAN READ IT!” not is caps tho.
It’s not that big of a deal. We can do it again, assuming people remember most of the edits. It’s always easier when you redo it.
130- well, that is why we need to do it here and not over e-mail.
I think we should move the dates up a hundred years, because otherwise it’ll be ridiculous when people in 2043 actually read this.
Whew. It’s been a while since I was on this thread.
132 – Agreed.
I just posted something. I’m not sure if it went through, though. If it did, GAPAs please delete this.
Basically, I can’t find the latest editing thread. Link, please?
https://musefanpage.com/blog/?p=1124