Chronicles of Museica, Part the Eighth
Continued from Part the Seventh, than which no more need be said.
Date: July 1, 2008
Categories: Nonrandom Craziness, RRRs, RPWs, and RPGs, The Musiverse
Friday, 26 April 2024
Life, the universe, pies, hot-pink bunnies, world domination, and everything
Continued from Part the Seventh, than which no more need be said.
Date: July 1, 2008
Categories: Nonrandom Craziness, RRRs, RPWs, and RPGs, The Musiverse
Elections!
POSOC for Arts Prime Muser!
May I join in? I’d love to!
(first post?)
could someone please explain to me what Chronicles of Museica, Part the Eighth is supposed to be about?
The seventh description thing was vague, too.
(first post?)
It’s… um… a place.
Here is the Constitution:
Article I.
Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a House of Commons, which shall consist of all citizens of Museica, excepting those who hold other public office.
Section 2. Any sentient being who has posted on at least one thread relating to Museica, read at least one thread of the Chronicles of Museica, and who has been in residence upon the Blog for at least thirty days, shall be considered a citizen of Museica, and thus eligible to sit in the House of Commons.
Section 3. The House of Commons, once established, shall select from among its members a Head of the Commons, who shall have the responsibility of overseeing the voting carried out by the House. No citizen may serve as the Head for a duration longer than six months.
Section 4. Any member of the House of Commons may propose a new legislation at any point in time. If the proposal receives a second, it shall be put to the full House. The duration of the voting time shall not exceed a week. At the end of the week, the Head of the Commons shall count the votes and act according to the general consensus. If the ayes/w00ts exceed the nays/mehs, the bill shall be made law: if vice versa, the bill shall be removed from consideration.
Section 5. The House of Commons shall hear any and all citizens’ grievances. If a plaintiff or defendant is unsatisfied with the verdict, en has the right to appeal to the Chief Justices. The House of Commons has the power to bring charges against any elected official, be it Prime Muser, Governing Muser, Chief Justice or Head of Commons. In the case of the Justice, a temporary Justice shall be elected by the House to try the defendant in case of an appeal to the Justices. In the case of the Head of Commons, a temporary Head shall be elected to preside over the case.
Article II.
»Section 1. The executive branch of The Nation of Museica resides in three supreme elected officials, known hereafter as Prime Musers, abbreviated to PMs. PMs must visit Museica threads at minimum once every two weeks, else they will be declared absent and the Head of the House of Commons may cast a ballot in their place.Prime Musers cannot serve for a duration of longer than six months, and are elected directly by the citizens of Museica. The voting may not last more then two weeks, and should be limited to one unless less then ten votes have been cast.
»Section 2. These PMs are elected by popular vote, and must meet the following criterion:
•A sentient being of high moral standard who has pledged en’s interest in the prosperity of Museica (A2§3)
•Been established as a citizen of Museica (see A1§2)
•Read and understood the entirety of the Constitution of Museica
»Section 3. PMs must take the following pledge upon election: “I do swear at this time to uphold the standards set forth in this constitution and its preamble, to work to strengthen the Nation of Museica and advance its standing within the cosmos of MuseBlog.â€
»Section 4. Prime Musers are elected to carry out duties concerning the laws and lands of Museica, most notably forming agencies intended to enforce rule or decree set forth by the House of Commons. Prime Musers hold emergency power in times of chaos.
»Section 5. Prime Musers may hold votes among themselves to veto legislature, the vote must be unanimous, which will then be reviewed by judges for constitutionality, and re-voted upon in the HoC. Laws vetoed will then pass only with a two thirds majority in the HoC.Section 6. Executive power over the transportation system, the space program, and the various industries shall be vested in the Science Prime Muser.
Section 7. Executive power over the museum system, the public library system, education, and the arts shall be vested in the Arts Prime Muser.
Section 8. Executive power over the medical system, the national park system, agriculture, the police force, and the social services shall be vested in the Life Prime Muser.
Section 9. Decisions relating to the domains of more than one Prime Muser, or relating to the international situation, must be voted on by the entire Council. A two-thirds majority (2 ayes/w00ts) is required to put the decision into action. The dissenting PM has the power to call a special vote of the House of Commons upon the decision. If the House vetoes it, it will not be put into action.
Article III-Th Judicial System
Section I: The Judicial Power of Museica should be vested in one Supreme Court made up of 3 Chief Justices. The Chief Justices try cases which have been tried already by the House of Commons, but the verdict is challenged. Also, the Chief Justices try all cases where the accused is an Ambassador, PM, or the HoHoC.
Section II: All cases are tried in this manner. Each Case has a Defendant, who may defend themselves or use a Lawyer. Each Case also has a Prosecutor, who is a Lawyer. Of the Three Justices, one runs the case, one decides the Verdict, and one doles out the punishments.
Section III: The Chief Justices also have the power to interpret the Constitution, and will clear it up for the House of Commons when it is disputed. In short, the Chief Justice’ s job is that of the Arbiter, solving disputes and judging cases of great import.
Article IV- The Powers of Museica
Section 1: The powers invested into the Nation of Museica by this document, and it’s rulers, are applicable only to the lands of the Nation of Museica and it’s territories.
Section 2: Land may be acquired by the Nation in exploratory voyages that have proclaimed their intentions to secure uninhabited territory for Museica.
Section 3: Foreign lands wishing to join with Museica as part of the Republic must hold elections, two thirds of which must pass in favor. Lands wishing to ally will only need the formal approval of the leaders of that land.
Section 4: This constitution has been built and written as a universal document, in hopes that all law and procedure necessary in the Museiverse can be found within it’s pages. All citizens of lands, domestic or foreign can claim the rights and freedoms as their own (As found in A5§2) .
Article V- Rights of the People
1. The House of Commons shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of comment upon any Museworld thread; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances.
2. A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the inhabitants to keep and bear Pies shall not be infringed by any governmental party, House of Commons, Prime Muser Council or otherwise, with the following exceptions:
a. By special order of the Chief Justices as penalty for a violent crime involving pastry. In this instance, the duration of the ban from pies shall not exceed Two Blog Years (Two Real Months).
b. By order of the Great And Powerful Administrators.
3. No Soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
4. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
5. No sentient Museican citizen shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of Pie War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against enself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
6. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial by the House of Commons, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense. En shall also have the right to appeal the decision of the House and go to the Chief Justices.
7. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
8. The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny others retained by the people.
9. The powers not delegated specifically to the federal government are reserved to the people.
10. No governmental agency shall make any law discriminating against citizens on the basis of gender, race, belief, orientation or species.
And Article Six, on the Governing Musers:
Article VI.
1. Executive power over purely internal affairs of the various provinces shall be held by Governing Musers.
2. There shall be nine Governing Musers, one to govern each province, to wit: Kokopelli, Urania, Chad, Aeiou, Bo, Feather, Pwt, Crraw and Mimi.
3. Any act of a Governing Muser may be vetoed by a majority of Prime Musers, a majority of the House of Commons, or a majority of the Chief Justices. A veto may be overturned by a majority of Governing Musers.Article VII
Section 1. Marriage in the nation of Museica shall be defined as the legal joining of two or more individuals who are committed to each other. This joining shall take the form of an official Marriage License signed by a government authorized individual, two witnesses of voting age and sound mind, as well as all the individuals entering the Marriage Contract.
Section 2. In order to obtain a Marriage License, individuals must not be of close relation. In addition, the individuals must take a course on anger control.
Section 3. If a married individual wishes to marry an additional individual, all individuals currently in the Marriage Contract must sign the Marriage License. All individuals under the same Marriage Contract shall be treated equally by law.
Section 4. No distinction in law shall be made on the basis of sexuality, gender, polygamy, polyandry, race, political opinion, origin, or religion.
Section 5. No persons shall be forced into marriage against their will.
Section 6. Prior to adoption, fostering, or birth all individuals who shall be legal guardians of children shall take an elementary course in child care and first aid.
Section 7. Children and spouses shall not be subjected to emotional, physical, or sexual abuse.
Section 8. Children shall have the right to a name, nutrition, housing, recreation, medical services, education. Nor shall they be denied a wholesome environment intended to foster individual growth free from prejudice or intolerance. Whenever possible, this environment shall be with the child’s birth family. Should the family not be financially able to supply for their children they shall receive sufficient government aid.
ok, vote for Beatlesrockr for Life prime muser!
Bookworm for HoHoC!
What is this?
4- Kokopelli has not yet ratified and will not do so until the following article is added:
Article VII
1. This Constitution of the Republic of Museica, Is a living Document, and May be Amended and Changed As Such.
2. An Amendment may be proposed by any Citizen of Museica. It may be Passed with any of the following Votes:
a)Two of the three Prime Musers must vote yea on it, as must two thirds of the House of Commons and two thirds of the Governing Musers.
b) A single Prime Muser, three quarters of the House of Commons and seven of the nine Governing Musers must all vote yea.
c) The three Prime Musers must vote yea, three quarters of the House of Commons must vote yea, and three Governing Musers must vote yea.
d) A yea vote from all three Prime Musers, a majority of the House of Commons and seven of the nine Governing Musers must be obtained.
3. An Amendment past in any of the four aforesaid methods shall be regarding as Equal to Each other and to the original Constitution.
IBCF for science prime muser!
ZVX for Life Prime Muser!
8- I thought that was added?
11-Not when we ratified it. We don’t need Kokopelli to ratify, but I think it would be wise to add the article. It’s a good thing to have in there.
Red-tailed HAWK
12- I vote to add it.
I vote to add it!
The GM of CHAD hereby votes to add the proposed article VII to the Constitution.
Red-tailed HAWK
ZVX hereby votes to add a. VII.
You all realize the problem, right? You can’t simply “vote” to add it because there’s no acknowledged way of amendng the constitution. That was the point of the whole article to begin with.
However, since certain musers, such as TMFA thought it was added, we can chalk it up to bad communication and declare that it was always there but simply mislaid in cyberspace.
If this logic is accepted, then Kokopelli ratifies the constitution.
17-We aren’t amending the Constitution. We’re adding an article that was accidentally left out of the post we thought contained the whole Constitution. We’re just voting to make sure we don’t have to go back and change anything else in the Constitution; there are no amendments yet.
Red-tailed HAWK
18- So we’re in sort of agrrement? (the end result is the same in any case)
Kokopelli ratifies this constitution.
Sorry I lost it, everyone! I guess I couldn’t find it when when I was pasting together! Let’s just say it was always there!
Oh, and, we have, in order: Craww, Feather, Aeiou, Urania, Chad, And Kokopelli. We could still use: Bo, Mimi, And Pwt. (Bo is Beatlesrocker, but we have no Mimi and Pwt.) While we only needed 5, binding together the entire Country would be nice!
So it’s a miscommunication, not a deliberate omission?
That’s good, because this would be the absolute worst article to leave out.
Yes, it would be the worst one to leave out.
So, everything is settled about the Article? No objections? No changes? good.
23-Are you ratifying?
23- I think so.
All PM positions are open. To submit yourself for a position, simply post your name along with the PM position you would like (the duties of PM’s are spelled out in Article II of the Constitution)
The ballot so far:
For Science PM: IBCF
For Arts PM: POSOC
For Life PM: Beatlesrockr, ZVX
26- I was on Life First! and there was another mock up on the old thread. Your missing alot of people.
27- I stand corrected.
the actual ballot so far (I think):
Science PM: IBCF, Red-tailed HAWK
Arts PM: Blue Beads, POSOC, Vendaval
Life PM: Beatlesrockr, ZVX, TMFA
I’d like to be Science PM!
I’m running for HoHoC!
Is there a agricultural/environmentally friendly PM? Or something like that?
31- life. or Feather or Pwt GMs.
It’s odd. People are just randomly joining the thread
*awesome*
33 – I’ve been lurking, but I haven’t actually “joined” yet…I suppose now would be a good time to actually post and do so.
34- Welcome!
Wait until sturday to do anything BIG!
34- Welcome! Now is actually a very good time to join because it might possibly be almost possible for you to pick up on what’s happening.
pies Eccentric the Afterthought (can one pie a new comer to a thread? I suppose one can pie any one….BADRANG WOULD LIKE TO BE LIFE PRIME MUSER and we say it in caps so you cant possibly miss it. 6/30 whats a HoHoC? 3 I believe that the mission for this thread was to vote in our life science and arts prime musers and on that note science Red-tailed HAWK arts posoc and life badrang.329(all last thread)*is stunned that the grate and mighty rth would talk to little old him who ha privately been worshiping him ( blood sacrifices) for so long… loong sigh* your right…. So could some one who lives in muserland works in muserland has government post in muserland (ok That’s the same as my work) has family in muserland ….work on the Constitution of museica? maybe theirs two badrangs….(scary) or perhaps it has some thing to do with muserland adopting this Constitution? (which I’m against by the way)339 ouch what happened to put you in a brace-cast thingyd? 340 glad you clarified I was pronouncing it yi-vee-ya *laugh* what you said was all fine and well but you didn’t paraphrase the top part about all the rights that all people
have a right to I’m fine with the marriage thing but what about the rest? Is it out?(I just want to know)
38- HoHoC is the Head of the House of Commons.
Muserland may adopt/blatantly rip off this constitution for their own if they so desire, but that must be their decsion, not ours.
Nothing currently prohibits a resident of Muserland from participating/holding office in the Museica government.
Regarding the rights: If it isn’t currently in the Constitution (posts 4 & 8) than it isn’t there. You can submit an ammendment after we elect our government, though.
sorry for the double post, but the smily face was supposed to be 8_), I forgot that became 8)
And as long as I’m at it, I would like to know the opinion of those MBers running for any PM regarding the regulation of pie throwing.
I think I said something on the mater but that was biased by the title of the article and what we thought other people wanted… we think that all people have the right to throw pies and should not be bared from doing so but we do not want to over do it or it loses its power. Like swear words in that respect. It is a good way of venting ones emotions but gets a bit tiring when every one does it all the time. I like the present level of pie throwing. I also love the tradition’s built around pie throwing and believe that “firm traditions hold together a society”(Confucius) especially being a Nation built on a pie. *laughs* Interesting question I want to know what other musers say *sits down and listens* [Reference to possible off-the-blog meeting snipped. –Admin.]
sorry to duble post but gapa…..could you make the strike resead to weird ple—————————————-as!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A further queston for those MBers running for Science PM:
What is your opinion regarding federal money for land, air, water, and space travel and what priority is each one given?
35, 37 – Thanks! I think I get it as long as we’re in the election process; after that I don’t know, but hopefully I’ll pick it up.
38 – *pied*
Hello?
Present.
I am awaiting the candidates responses to my quieries (see posts 40 and 43)
I’m not running for those positions…
40- Pie throwing will be allowed, but the mess must be completely cleaned up by the throwers (to protect the environment and keep things nice-looking). There will also be limits to the size, velocity, and type of pie. Anything that can cause serious injury is illegal for regular (regular–as in friendlly pie throwing, as opposed to self-defence) use.
43- Land and space will be my highest priorities. Why land?
1. Space, water, and air don’t get worn away when you travel through them, but land does. We’ll have to put a lot of money into road maintenance.
2. Why use an airplane, spaceship, or boat to travel 3 miles to work?
Why space?
1. It’s the fastest way to go.
2. Much of our trade comes from the Pieceful Pie Planet.
3. Why use an airplane instead of a spaceship?
4. Why use a boat instead of a spaceship?
48-Hmmm… I support you, for now! Who else is running for Science? *Checks List* Kokonilly, and RtH! I’d like to see what they have to say, also.
Regarding the regulation of pie throwing…
You can throw pies all you want, but you have to be nice and tidy after. Wouldn’t do to keep the city/country/land you were pieing in filthy with rotting pie crust, now, would it?!?!?!
Oh, and nothing fatal. There should be rules and serious penalties for breaking them.
What is your opinion regarding federal money for land, air, water, and space travel and what priority is each one given?
Land is fairly important, because it’s what you see when you first enter. It gets worn away. I would rate it Priority Number 1.
Air is also important, because in the future, we could potentially have flying cars and personal jetpacks, but that’s a long ways off; we needn’t worry about that now. Priority Number 2 – tied with Space.
Water travel has become obsolete since the invention of the airplane. But there are also cruises and ferries and stuff, but it’s not quit as important. Priority No. 4.
Space — well, space is already quite important, since a ton of our trade comes from other planets, and perhaps soon planet-hopping will be as easy as hopping into the Millenium Falcon and going into hyperspace. Interplanetary travel will be essential in the future. Priority No. 2 – tied with Air.
Flying cars and personal jetpacks would cause air traffic, and any sort of bad crash would be fatal at 1000 feet off the ground.
And if you guess that you can make it to the next fuel outlet, and are wrong, you could hurtle down to the ground, screaming.
One mistake, and you are dead.
Teleportation however…
51-Are you running for anything?
VOTE TMFA! A MEMBER FROM DAY ONE! WRITER OF THE FIRST CONSTION OF MUSEICA! VOTE TMFA FOR LIFE PRIME MUSER!
I’ll have to come up with a campaign strategy.
VOTE KOKONILLY! SHE’S (kind of) SENSIBLE!
* BADRANG FOR LIFE PRIME MUSER HE DREAMS OF A BETTER FUTURE (vote for us pleas)
56- Would you, and others running for Life PM please express your plans for this country’s educational future?
57- Education is the domain of Arts PM, which I am running for.
58- Oops, my mistake.
Please transfer that question to Ars PM candidates.
Vote for me for HoHoC! As HoHoC, I would:
1) Keep everyone Organized.
2) Make sure all Bills are Voted On.
3) Be as Fair as I can be, and listen to both Sides.
4) Make sure all Cases are well Regulated.
5) Make lots of Numbered Lists!
Our students are the future of Musery, and thus I will make education my highest priority. I will devote the greatest part of the Arts budget to improving and funding schools and higher education. I will push to start construction of a Muse Academy Campus in Museica.
61- Alright… so the schools will have the funds. What is to be done with the funds or will that be left to the regions to decide?
62- We are still considering our policies in that regard.
Whose Domain are Libraries?
Arts, or Science, I think.
IF ELECTED, I WILL ADD MORE NATIONAL PARKS AND HELP TO INCREASE THE WUNG POPULATION!
64- Arts PM
THE MAN FOR AEIOU CAPTAIN OF THE GREAT SHIP THE BLACK FOOTED FERRET STOP
DEAR MUSERS OF MUSEICA STOP THE BLACK FOOTED FERRET HAS BEEN DOCKED IN GAPA CITY'S HARBOR FOR THE PAST FEW DAYS STOP WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THE BUNNIES HAVE TAKEN OVER GAPA TOWER, AND HAVE BUNNFIED PAUL BAKER STOP PLEASE SEND HELP STOP WHOLE TOWN IS WE THINK BUNNYFIED STOP BE CAREFUL STOP
67- Uh, oh. Where’s HAWK? Chad (where GAPA city is located) is his province.
VOTE FOR BEATLESROCKR FOR LIFE PRIME MUSER!
If I’m elected, you will see not only more Wungs, but less HPBs! The rivers will be clear! More nature preserves! We, are all hoping for a better future. A brighter future. A cleaner one. And here is your chance! Less war! Pie how ever…. But it will be cleaned up! All of it. Every single scrap. The throwers will have help! We will find cleaner ways to travel! If our environment is clean, we will live longer. VIVA LA VIDA!
Ok, I still have to think about my campaign. I am, uh, how do you put it? Not very good at thinking at this hour….
Oh, well, than, should we notify HAWK or just, go and try ourselves?
VOTE TMFA FOR LIFE PM!
YOU WIL SEE MORE WUNGS! YOU WILL SEE LESS ELIVUS HPBS! YOU WILL SEE MORE NICEUS HPBS! YOU WILL SEE MORE NICE H_BS! LESS EVIL H_B!
VOTE KOKONILLY FOR SCIENCE PRIME MUSER!
I will conduct further research into the mannerisms of HPBs and attempt to either change them all to nicegoodius or completely eliminate all evilus.
I will save the wungs by doing further research into their habitats and finding a way to preserve them.
KOKOPELLI RECIEVES TMFA'S MESSAGE STOP PIES ARE BEING READIED STOP SUPPLIES WILL BE SENT ONCE PERMISSION FROM AEIOU IS RECIEVED STOP
REQUEST FOR HELP IN GAPA CITY RECIEVED STOP PERMISSION TO SEND MILITARY AID ACROSS PROVINCE LINE REQUESTED STOP
Once our central government is up and running the issues of interprovince relations need to be dealt with.
FEATHER WILL SEND PIES STOP
Chad seems to be the one most hit.
URANIA SENDS HELP AND PIES STOP HOLD ON STOP DONT GIVE UP STOP
*Click* Beep! BOOOM!!!!!!! SWOOOSH!
CHAD is under code red alert. Please, send help now.
We have launched 300 Smart Pies. The Seahawk fleet shall come to the coast, firing pies inland and sending troops to the shore with pies. The Zemtee Air Force shall be involved as well, flying over to observe enemy positions and drop pies.
The Great and Wholly Sugar-filled Empire of Zemtee and CHAD appreciate all help you can offer.
This message has been delivered to you from the Zemtee Government at the Capitol through the Zemtee Light Speed Message Delivery System.
Red-tailed HAWK
URANIA SENDS TROOPS AND ASSISTANCE
76- Hey, what??? I’m the PM of Urania! *scrambles back to Chronicles of Museica 7*
Ah, now I see. ButBookworm was wrong. Urania was not vacant. I became PM on thread #6.
77- Could the HTML gnome put a space between “But” and “Bookworm,” please? I beg of you?
77- We’re sorry, but since you hadn’t shown up for an unfortunately long time…
79- What? Hey, I’ve been around. I just didn’t notice that Bookworm allowed Kokonilly to take over Urania! I need a lawyer!
80- Oh. Sorry I didn’t speak up, but the last PM of Urania I remembered was Dodecahedron!
Now, let’s work out this little mess. Um… What’s the old constitution say?
Will a Fomer CJ do?
Nothing, I think.
83- See, this is why we needed a new constitution. *groan* Well, perhaps, since we’re soon holding actual elections, IBCF and Kokonilly can run for Science PM or Uranian GM.
O.k.!
Kokopelli sends help to Chad STOP
I think we should hold elections this Thursday, opening the voting booths at 9am museblog time and closing them at 10pm museblog time the following Monday.
Second!
Some one write up a ballet, and someone write something to put on the Random Thread!
Write a Ballet, TMFA? In my experience, they tend not to have any words! Thursday to Monday sounds good!
Elections? Oh, elections!
Zyviva, in answer to your question, we believe that those who work closely with the schools know how best to direct the funding and improve them. The local citizens will decide how to use the money.
Science PM: IBCF,
Arts PM: POSOC,
Life PM: TMFA,
HoHoC: The Bookworm
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whos running for GMs? I need that for my Vote.
*casts ballot carefully*
Science PM: Kokonilly
Arts PM: Blue Beads
Life PM: ZVX
VOTE TMFA! VOTE TMFA! I’VE BEEN HERE THE LONGEST!
Vote IBCF for Science PM! He will fund the research of medicine to cure cancer and HIV! He will fund the research of HPBs to help out the fighting in Chad! He will fund the Uranian space exploration program! And he will always furfill his promises!
90- Thank you, TMFA. Thank you very much.
Science PM: Myself
Arts PM: POSOC
Life PM: TMFA
Who’s running for HoHoC again?
93- bookworm. I don’t think any one else is running.
92- You’ve been here the longest?! I signed the caking Lemon Meringue Treaty!
POSOC will improve Museica’s school system and libraries, and work toward constructing a Muse Academy campus in Museica. Our future lies in the hands of our children. We want them to be as well-educated as possible.
95- of the people running for Life PM, Canix. Life. not in all PMs, but Life.
Oh, and vote soon!
96- Yes, you don’t have to repeat yourself, I got it the first time. And I apologize for blowing up at you.
My votes:
Sci PM: IBCF
Art PM: Myself
Life PM: TMFA
98- if you call that blowing up, you need to spend more time on Hot Topics.
MNN: MUSER NEWS NETWORK
Election 2008!
The first elections votes are coming in…
For Science PM:
IBCF: 75%
Kokonilly: 25%
Red-tailed Hawk: 0%
For Arts PM:
POSOC: 75%
Blue Beads: 25%
Vendaval: 0%
For Life PM:
TMFA: 75%
ZVX: 25%
Beatlesrockr:0%
Badrag: 0%
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MNN Will keep you updated on the election as Resatuls come in.
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UP NEXT ON MNN:
A Baby wung has been found alone in Aeiou. Why?
99- Hot Topics? That’s not so much “blowing up” as “thermonuclear detonation.”
101- true.
Re: Urania mess: I will respectfully give up Urania if IBCF will give up Science PM.
VOTE KOKONILLY! SHE WILL RESEARCH ALTERNATE ENERGIES AND WILL HELP THE DECLINING WUNG POPULATION! SHE WILL ALSO FASHION NEW WAYS TO GET RID OF THE HOT PINK BUNNIES ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!
Hmmmm…..
VOTE FOR BEATLESROCKER FOR LIFE PRIME MUSER!
IIf I’m elected, you will see not only more Wungs, but less evil HPBs! The rivers will be clear! More nature preserves! We, are all hoping for a better future. A brighter future. A cleaner one. And here is your chance! Less war! Pie how ever…. But it will be cleaned up! All of it. Every single scrap. The throwers will have help! We will find cleaner ways to travel! If our environment is clean, we will live longer.
VIVA LA VIDA! LONG LIVE LIFE!
Whoops the whole thing wasn’t supposed to be bold.
103- Hmmm. I don’t think I want to…
Vote IBCF for Science PM! He will put research into faster, more efficient spacecraft for exploration and inter-planetary trade!
107- Gaaah, that wasn’t CC IBCF…
When does voting end, again?
109- 9 A.M. Monday.
VOTE ZVX FOR LIFE PRIME MUSER!
If ZVX is elected, we will have more piece! More time to enjoy the pleasure of life, and ZVX is putting major energy into renewing Wung populations. A fundraiser will be held on RCS for ZVX. 6:00, pacific time, Sunday night. ZVX says that “At the time I first ran, I was envisioning a new age of muserly activity: less HPBs, more Wungs, more time for relaxation. My goal hasn’t changed.”
VOTE ZVX FOR LIFE PRIME MUSER.
91- Thanks!
((I fully know that “Piece” is an incorrect spelling))
Are those running allowed to vote?
112-yes.
VOTE TMFA! WE NEED YOUR VOTES!
. I’m voting for:
Science: Kokonilly.
Arts: POSOC.
Life: TMFA.
HoHoC: Myself.
I vote for myself, if I can.
VOTE KOKONILLY!!!
Science: Kokonilly
Arts: POSOC
Life: ZVX
HoHoC: Bookworm. (I think he’s the only one running.)
VOTE ZVX.
114- Aw, what made you change your mind?
VOTE IBCF! HE’LL LOWER INCOME TAXES!
My ballot:
Science: Kokonilly
Arts: POSOC
Life: Beatlesrockr
HoHoC: Bookworm
VOTE KOKONILLY! SHE’LL PERMIT MORE RESEARCH INTO MEDICINE!
118- Hmph. I won’t just permit it! I’ll fund it!
I WILL SUPPORT MORE RESEARCH INTO MEDICINE, HELP FUND IT, AND I’LL DONATE MORE MONEY TO MEDICAL SCHOOLS!
I WILL SEEK ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES AND USE THEM TO THEIR FULLEST POTENTIAL!
118- WHY BEATLESROCKR?
120 – Oh, I’m an idiot. *headdesk* I meant to make that bold.
121 – Um, I dunno… I don’t want to offend anyone, but she’s more of a friend to me? *said tentatively* I also quite agree with post 105.
122- I founded MPS!
123 – MPS? Is that some kind of disease?
124- Museica Parks Service.
Ok, *looks carfully*
Science: Kokonilly
Arts: Blue Beads
Life:Beatlesrockr
HoHoC: Bookworm
Make life easier! Let that beautiful painting of the prairie in your living room come alive. You will see more Wungs frolicking around where ever they please! Less pollution more polar bears!
And this will only happen if you vote for Beatlesrockr for life prime muser!
AS PM OF FEATHER FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, I HAVE THE EXPRICENE TO RUN FOR LIFE PM, UNLIKE ZVX OR BEATLESROCKR! I ALSO RUN MPS AND HAVE HELPED TO MAKE THE WUNG BECOME LESS OF A RARITY. WE WILL MAKE BAD HPBS GOOD! WE WILL WORK WITH EVER ONE ELSE IS MUSEWORLD AND THE MUSEVERSE TO RESTORE PIELOR BEARS AND WUNGS AND PENGUINS AND OTHER ANIMALS TO HIGH LEVELS!
PRARIE DOGS!
118- Beat? You owe me a favor, nilly! I voted for you!
MNN: MUSER NEWS NETWORK
Election 2008
The first elections votes are coming in
For Science PM:
IBCF: 75%
Kokonilly: 45%
Red-tailed Hawk: 0%
For Arts PM:
POSOC: 75%
Blue Beads: 25%
Vendaval: 0%
For Life PM:
TMFA: 75%
ZVX: 45%
Beatlesrockr: 25%
Badrang: 0%
MNN will have more broadcasts on the election tonight. ZVX is holding a fund raiser on the Random Thread tonight, and we’ll see if any new voters show up.
don’t forget to tune in!
oops! GAPAs, it would be greatly appreciated if you inserted bold commands on the “For ____ PM”s. Thanks.
127 – You may have experience, but terrible spelling. “Pielor” bears?
VOTE KOKONILLY FOR SCIENCE PRIME MUSER!
Whats the ballot count so far?
130- Yes, Pielor Bears! A bigger cousion of polar bears, that lives in Dor.
Pielor bears are pie polar bears. It’s a portmanteau word.
Something’s wrong with your polls, though, i!. How does IBCF have 75% and Nilly 45%? That makes 120%.
131, 132 – I know, I know. Have a sense of humor, jeez!
132 – I know. I was wondering about that.
Heres the OFFICAL RECORDS:
IBCF, 4/8
Red-tailed HAWK,
Kokonilly 4/8
Blue Beads, 2/8
POSOC, 6/8
Vendaval


Beatlesrockr, 2/8
ZVX, 2/8
TMFA 4/8
Badrag

Here are the percentages:
SCIENCE PM:
IBCF 50%
Red-tailed HAWK 0%
Kokonilly 50%
ARTS PM:
Blue Beads 75%
POSOC 25%
Vendaval
LIFE PM:
Beatlesrockr 25%
ZVX 25%
TMFA 50%
Badrag

134, 135- How come I have 6/8 but only 25%?
135- Blue beads has 25% and POSOC has 75%
Whoops, sorry about that.
Here are the real percentages:
SCIENCE PM:
IBCF 50%
Red-tailed HAWK 0%
Kokonilly 50%
ARTS PM:
Blue Beads 25%
POSOC 75%
Vendaval 0%
LIFE PM:
Beatlesrockr 25%
ZVX 25%
TMFA 50%
Badrang
 0%
*Starts Law Writing*
What do we do in case of a tie?
140- Typically the incumbent gets it, but there is no incumbent here.
FUND RAISER ON RANDOM THREAD ABOUT TO START.
Who do you want for life prime muser? A meat eater, or a vegetarian? Do you want to let <b every animal have a chance, or just the endangered ones? What about cows. What abut Bo. Cows shouldn’t be born and killed. Is that all you would want in your life? Be born, be treated badly, and be killed? I don’t think so. So give every animal a chance (except for bad HPBs). Vote for Beatlesrockr.
140 – Good point. What if nobody else votes and IBCF and I have to battle it out?
Wait, HPBs aren’t even animals. They are aliens
Yeah, we need to figure out what to do during a tie. Should we do another vote between the two?
Life PM: TMFA
Science PM: Kokonilly
Arts PM: Blue Beads
Has anyone seen IBCF, HAWK, and Vendy recently?
I vote TMFA and Kokonilly because they are the most active. I vote myself because I am myself, and I’m not sure what sort of a chance I stand anyway.
I will come on here more often. I will.
141- PLUS, they both have the same position right now (Urania PM).
143- I’m Don’t eat Cow or Pig. Sorry, but Your going to have to try harder.
ZVX-WHAT DOES HE EAT? COW? PIG? IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT IN A LIFE PM?
By the way, POSOC, Nilly, IBCF, feel free to yell at me via email if I abandon this again. In fact, I encourage you to do so.
Or you can just come and yell at me on the Sea Roc or Etheterre. I’ll always be there.
146- You stand a chance if the next Four people vote for you. I don’t think there will be one more, let alone four.
The tie is not a worry, except if some one else votes for ICBF.
I have 3/9, right? And POSOC has 6/9? Yeah, I’m doomed…
I don’t think anybody knows I’m alive. Ah well. I shal try harder
147- What about chicken? Fish?
Vote for Beatlesrockr, someone who has seen how this world can be remade. Has seen China, France, Australia, India, Egypt. All of those places, all of those solutions. Think about it. Hope for a better future. A brighter future. A cleaner one.
151- I will drop those when I have a job.
POLLS CLOSE IN HALF OF AN HOUR
POLLS CLOSED!
THE WINNER OF SCIENCE PRIME MUSER IS
KOKONILLY
THE WINNER OF ARTS PRIME MUSER IS
POSOC
THE WINNER OF LIFE PRIME MUSER IS
THE MAN FOR AEIOU
THE WINNER OF HOHOC IS
THE BOOKWORM
~~~
*Walks in*
What? I’m running for something?
154-According to post 86, they close at 10:00 PM. And this vote is essentially pointless, as virtually the only people who voted are people who are running. And they just voted for their friends.
This is worse than the old system! It was better when everyone was welcome–when people wouldn’t pick and choose and be bribed. What a laugh!
By the way, I’m not running.
But if you’re trying to pretend the system is fair and honest, at least stick to a closing time!
Red-tailed HAWK
155- about the time.
We opened the polls at ten on thusday. were closing them at 9 on monday. confuing.
Every one is welcome! We have nine GMs, and three Justices we need!
Does any one want to contest the elections?
155- Everyone is welcome. It’s just that very few people came, which, as you say, is a problem. By the time we fill up all these offices, there’ll be no-one eligible for the House of Commons!
156- Actually, those former Prime Musers who didn’t run for Prime Muser get to keep their provinces as Governing Musers. So RtH is still Chadian GM.
Congrats, TMFA!
147- Typically, I don’t eat meat. On occasion, such as parties, I will, but normally I live off tofu stir-fry and salad. Grilled mushrooms generally are in place of meat, I catch fish on occasion, but I on any account don’t eat steak, or pork…chicken…sometimes. Only because that’s what sometimes is on the menu for dinner.
And by the way, what do I do with myself, now that I’ve been beaten in the election?
159- You could run for Chief Justice or Governing Muser. And if you don’t win one of those offices, there’s always the House of Commons.
Good job TMFA!
Than I’d like to run for GM of Bo, once again.
Yeah, there is the House of Commons! On the other hand, if I’m the only member, there isn’t much of one…
Oh, goody goody gumdrops! I’m Science Prime Muser! *shakes IBCF’s hand respectfully* Nice race!
whaaa I missed the elections?! my big long post disappeared? 0%? people called me bad-rag?! *in whisper* badrang! badrang! badrang! (sorry I was gone so long ) 147-143-151-147-etc people have bean living off of meat for the majority of our existence we get things from it that can not be replaced by “tofu stir-fry and salad” “,Grilled mushrooms” and other ‘meat substitutes’ if some one wanted to eat me and could do so quickly fearlessly and painlessly I would let them…. I would however require that they enjoy me yous all of me prey for me and remember me It would be preferable if I new the some one and if they new me. What would be best of course is to talk to each animal in turn get Chad to make a animaunderstandagraph if I had bean elected LPM that’s what I’d do…. well next time….who’s running for Chief Justice ?
164-Chief Justice: Hypatia, but maybe she left… Also, there are three (3) slots…
164-Why couldn’t meat be replaced? Do you have any reasons? Isn’t it better to avoid killing anything if you don’t NEED to? Also, while you may hypothetically be fine with being eaten; I daresay if someone came after you with a knife and a grill, you wouldn’t be so glad!
WHERE AS,
Wungs are the most unique animal, and
WHERE AS,
There numbers are Dwindling, and
WHERE AS,
We have many ways of increasing there numbers,
I, The Man For Aeiou, Life Prime Muser, Here-by Summit for Vote
LR#1
WUNG PROTECTION ACT
1. Wungs may roam freely
2. the punishment of killing a wung is a heavy fine.
3. a “Wung Preserve” will be set up to allow a human free area for wungs to frolic in.
166-Sounds brilliant!
162- Every citizen is a member, except those who already hold office.
The polls were never officially opened, people just started voting. So technically, the polls should still be open right now.
Few attempts were made to get people over here to vote. Thus, it is hard to say we had an election, considering only ONE PERSON who wasn’t running for an office voted.
I apologize for the confusion–I had decided not to run for Science Prime Muser but hadn’t told you.
166-WAIT, PM TMFA!!! According to Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution, you must take the pledge that appears there!
Also, according to article 2, section 1 of the Constitution, voting should last no longer than 2 weeks and should be limited to one (the voting lasted from Thursday to Monday, just 5 days) unless fewer than ten votes have been cast. Well, only nine votes were cast. That really shows you how few people came, doesn’t it?
We wrote this Constitution to follow it. It was supposed to make everything easy and clear. And yet, somehow we aren’t following it!
Whatever shall we do? Should we have another election?
I’m sorry, I don’t mean to sound pushy or annoying. I just think we ought to keep from straying from the Constitution, and so when I find times we have I would like to point them out.
Red-tailed HAWK
169- Really? I posted THE POLLS ARE NOW OPEN on the random thread. I thought that counted.
Vote, then!
Drafting Laws is hard.
You can push us over! the polls are open for half an hour more, if you vote. other wise it’s going to be a long time.
PLEASE, no more elections.
160- I’ll go for Governing Muser.
VOTE ZVX FOR GOVERNING MUSER!
where do you vote for the smaller posts?
169- You’re not being pushy or annoying. Our system of government still has flaws that have to be straightened out.
I think we should hold another election, since, as RtH pointed out, this one didn’t follow the Constitution in some particulars.
172- how will that help? I thought we did a good job trying to get the world out.
173- Yes, but we closed the polls before the Constitution said we should.
I thought I said they were still open intill some one else votes?
Ah, I’m very confused. Perhaps we should summarize the situation on the random thread to encourage people to vote and to keep them from getting bamboozled.
176- You do that.
177- Me? I’m as confused as the people who are likely to be reading it!!
178- Well, I’ve tried at the start.
Sorry I’ve been gone. I went camping during the weekend, then I got E. Coli and threw up and had a lot of diarrhea, so I had to go to the Emergency Room to get IV fluid…So what happened? Did I lose or win?
180 – Lose. *shakes hand respectfully* Good run!
So what’s going on? Is the election over, or what?
I think we should hold the vote again. We went off the mark a little with this one. Back to the polls.
Second Election Lineup on MNN
SCIENCE PM:
IBCF
Red-tailed HAWK (?)
Kokonilly
ARTS PM:
Blue Beads
POSOC
Vendaval
LIFE PM:
ZVX
Beatlesrockr
TMFA
Badrang (?)
MNN will keep you informed on the new developments.
180-ACK! I’m so sorry to hear that. No problem about not coming on here, that’s understandable! Are you alright now?
183-We can totally redo the election if you like. I doubt the people who already voted have changed their minds, but whatever.
RtH VOTES FOR:
SCIENCE PM: IBCF
ARTS PM: POSOC
LIFE PM: TMFA
Ouch. Sorry Alice! I hope we can get you in one of these other positions.
We need to vote for the remaining GMs. Who’s running for what?
Oh, and Bookworm isn’t HoHoC and can’t run. Article 1, section 3.
Shall we say, close the polls next Wednesday, August 6th, at 10:00 P. M. blog time unless fewer than 10 votes have been cast, in which case the polls would close 10:00 P. M. the next Wednesday, the 13th?
Red-tailed HAWK
HAWK is not in the election.
Can we wait a couple of days before we restart this?
We need to figure out how to get more people to vote here.
ADS. Obviously.
184- you were the ten vote. lets close the polls, and have TMFA and POSOC win. ICBF and Kokonilly will need to some how tie break.
Wait, wait! Can I be the tie breaker?
I vote IBCF, POSOC, and TMFA.
Wow, way to many acronyms there.
With a Now, Close the POLLS. This should work.
YES! IBCF, POSOC, and TMFA WIN THE RACE! CONGRATULATIONS!
THAT was a small election!
Pies to all!
Red-tailed HAWK
190- You seem to have changed your mind about the objections you raised.
190- so you feel it was fair?
I, The Man For Aeiou, do swear at this time to uphold the standards set forth in this constitution and its preamble, to work to strengthen the Nation of Museica and advance its standing within the cosmos of MuseBlog.
Here is the first law I put up, Do we need to vote on it?:
WHERE AS,
Wungs are the most unique animal, and
WHERE AS,
There numbers are Dwindling, and
WHERE AS,
We have many ways of increasing there numbers,
I, The Man For Aeiou, Life Prime Muser, Here-by Summit for Vote
LR#1
WUNG PROTECTION ACT
1. Wungs may roam freely
2. the punishment of killing a wung is a heavy fine.
3. a “Wung Preserve†will be set up to allow a human free area for wungs to frolic in.
194- Sounds good. I’ll vote for it, but I’d like to see more description added. where can wungs roam freely? Everywhere? Is the fine heavy enough to straighten out any bent moral compass?
Just suggestions. Thanks for listening!
195- Everywhere. Heavy, in 10,000s Muses (Money, Right?) range.
Wow! I won! I don’t believe it!
*shakes everyone’s hands*
Okay, the pie rules I stated in post #48 are now the laws of Chad, Urania, and Aeiou. Is that how it works? So…
Pie throwing will be allowed, but the mess must be completely cleaned up by the throwers (to protect the environment and keep things nice-looking). There will also be limits to the size, velocity, and type of pie. Anything that can cause serious injury is illegal for regular (regular–as in friendlly pie throwing, as opposed to self-defence) use.
So spike pies, pecan, and acid are out. Pies can’t be frozen or burning. Size…what would you recommend? 16 inch diameter maximum, maybe? And velocity…well, don’t be shooting pies at 90 mph. Use common sense.
I’ll also build and fund new HPB research labs, so as to help the fighting in Chad. And now I’ve got to go.
Aww, I lost. Oh well. IBCF, may I have Urania now, please?
198- You never lost it. Congratulations, GM of Urania. *sends fruit basket*
198 – Yay! *accepts fruit basket* *shakes hands with IBCF gratefully*
199- Oh, and when I said “You never lost it,” I was referring to your GMness over Urania, not the election. Just in case you couldn’t tell.
197- No, no, no. You don’t rule the individual provinces, just their “domains,” if that makes any sense. Here’s what the Constitution says:
Article II, Section 6. Executive power over the transportation system, the space program, and the various industries shall be vested in the Science Prime Muser.
201 – Oh, I was confused at first, but I got it after half a second of examination.
202- Is the Wung law law or do we need to vote?
So then, shall the House of Commons convene?
(I understand that I am not officially the HoHoC due to Article 1, Section 3, but I am attempting to jumpstart the HoC! Also, are GMs HoC members. If not, we have only several HoC members…)
205- I think That GMs are under Article 1, Section 1:
All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a House of Commons, which shall consist of all citizens of Museica, excepting those who hold other public office.
206-So they hold “other public office.”
206- yes.
I’m not saying the election was perfect, no. But it was legal at least. It may be the best we can hope for at this point. I have no desire to complain about anything to anyone, after all that has been done.
IBCF-half of why I gave up running for Science PM is because I wanted you to have the position. Just wanted you to know that…
Wait, I thought the HoC created laws, and the PMs made decisions and created and managed agencies. I know, I’m confused, help me out here.
Kokonilly, IBCF once traded Space ships for a piepoint each. Would you also trade spaceships for a piepoint each?
Hmmm, until we get more citizens, we won’t have much of a HoC. And we won’t know if Bookworm is HoHoC yet or not.
Red-tailed HAWK
ZEMTEE TELEGRAM SERVICE
Message to: Top Zemtee Officials and others interested
From: Red-tailed HAWK
ZEMTEE IN ADVANCED STAGES OF DECAY STOP ALL TOP ZEMTEE OFFICIALS PRESENT PLEASE HEAD TO THE ZEMTEE THREAD STOP THOSE INTERESTED IN JOINING ZEMTEE, ALSO HEAD TO THE ZEMTEE THREAD STOP WE MUST REVIVE ZEMTEE STOP WE WILL WRITE CONSTITUTION STOP PLEASE COME TO HELP END
209- true.
209 – Hmm, I probably would. A spaceship for a piepoint? Probably. Maybe two piepoints.
ATTENTION–I will be gone this next week, in Hawaii, and I’m not sure I’ll have internet access. Someone will have to rule in my stead. Please don’t do anything really rash. Gotta go.
Hmm, may I be acting Science PM? I came in second in the race, after all…
214-Sounds reasonable! House of Commons Members, I know you exist… Please come out!
IS THE WUNG LAW A LAW, OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE VOTED ON?
I think it needs passing by the HoC! I vote to pass it! Anyone else around?
212-Sorry! My mistake! IBCF traded a can of Uranium, the stuff the space ships run on, for a piepoint. I don’t think a piepoint is enough for a spaceship. How about, er, 5 piepoints per space ship? If you’re happy with that, I’ll send a request for how many space ships and Uranium cans I would like.
Bookworm, since no members of the HoC seem to be showing up, I think you should serve as HoHoC until there is a Hoc. Then they can decide if you should continue or not. The whole point of this new plan is the government can function when there are few people, and already we are faced with a shortage.
Red-tailed HAWK
Zemtee Telegram Service
Message to: Everybody
Message from: Red-tailed HAWK
ZEMTEE IS NO LONGER AN EMPIRE STOP I AM NO LONGER EMPEROR STOP WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING IDEAS TOGETHER TO CREATE A NEW, FREE ZEMTEE STOP WE WILL SOON WRITE A CONSTITUTION STOP ALL INTERESTED PLEASE GO TO THE ZEMTEE THREAD STOP NEWCOMERS ARE WELCOME STOP THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET INTO THE MUSE ADVENTURES AND THE SOON-TO-BE NEW AND FREE ZEMTEE STOP PLEASE GO TO THE THREAD NOW END
*shakes TMFA’s hand* “Good race. Though I wasn’t very active.”
As Interim HoHoC, I request I vote on TMFA’s Wung Law. Voting for this law will end at 9:00 PM, Boston Time. All HoC members may vote once. All Museican Citizens who do not have other positions, (GM, PM, CJ) are HoC Members.
My Vote: Aye!
218 – Oh. Yeah, I thought that was a cheap spaceship. Yes, 1 piepoint for Uranium and five for a spaceship.
221-Well, the voting’s over! I guess:
This Museican House of Commons hereby passes the proposed WUNG PROTECTION ACT.
222-Okay then, how about 50 space ships and 287 cans of Uranium for a total of 537 Piepoints? If you’re happy with that, add the piepoints to your name and send the ships and uranium.
Yay! Things are moving now! We’re trading!
Who else would be interested in trading? Who else is here?
Red-tailed HAWK
165 we don’t know enough about whats in meat. Are we getting chi? Is there a emotional effect? Is the wait of having eaten part of a living animal necessary to our psyche? we need more research! and yes we might think differently on the chopping block 213 this brings up the point should we have vice prime (science ,life ,arts )musers I think with the sporadic comings and goings of musers we need back up for instance if a muser isn’t seen for a while or goes on a trip or gets sick or….We need someone to fill in. Yes? We can get specific later. 216 I say yes we should vote for it and yes I vote for it ~badrang~
Yes, I think Vice Prime Musers should be chosen. The Vice Prime Muser would have enough power to suggest, but not pass laws. They would be backup and a second mind helping the Prime Muser.
My vote: YES!!!!
224-I have never had meat and I am in better shape than a lot of people.
And no. The Constitution states that PMs must visit the thread at least once every 2 weeks (I assume unless they say they’ll be away) or a new PM will be elected. That’s good enough. There isn’t that much going on, we can wait. There shouldn’t suddenly be a wave of interest in Museica the one time a PM goes away.
Red-tailed HAWK
225-Waaaaiiittt a minute, Newbies can’t suddenly take over here. The Constitution doesn’t allow for it. Who are you that you suddenly vote for something out of the blue? You can’t do that. Follow the Constitution, please.
Red-tailed HAWK
Okay, HAWK! *sends over ships and uranium*
227- Yeah, I’m really a newbie. Haven’t you paid attention to the people on Museblog since let’s see…about November 2007?
and also, I think that Previous Candidates for PM should be able to suggest. Let’s use logic, HAWK. If the constitution say “newbies” ( ) aren’t allowed to call a vote, then if I get into Prime Muser at the next election, I will make it my priority to change that law. Let’s make Museica a free, responsible country, not an elitist oldbie society making out of date laws and constitutions.
sorry for the outburst.
ZVX
229- This is the relevant article:
Article I, Section 2. Any sentient being who has posted on at least one thread relating to Museica, read at least one thread of the Chronicles of Museica, and who has been in residence upon the Blog for at least thirty days, shall be considered a citizen of Museica, and thus eligible to sit in the House of Commons.
You qualify for all of those.
229+230-The point isn’t you’re a newbie in blog years. I’m saying (or meant to say, if it didn’t sound like it) that you must be a “newbie” in the sense you are not following the Constitution. Putting in Vice PMs would be changing the Constitution, thus article VII:
Article VII
1. This Constitution of the Republic of Museica, Is a living Document, and May be Amended and Changed As Such.
2. An Amendment may be proposed by any Citizen of Museica. It may be Passed with any of the following Votes:
a)Two of the three Prime Musers must vote yea on it, as must two thirds of the House of Commons and two thirds of the Governing Musers.
b) A single Prime Muser, three quarters of the House of Commons and seven of the nine Governing Musers must all vote yea.
c) The three Prime Musers must vote yea, three quarters of the House of Commons must vote yea, and three Governing Musers must vote yea.
d) A yea vote from all three Prime Musers, a majority of the House of Commons and seven of the nine Governing Musers must be obtained.
3. An Amendment past in any of the four aforesaid methods shall be regarding as Equal to Each other and to the original Constitution.
Sure, you may be a Museican citizen, and you can propose the change. But I think it would be very unwise to make such a decision so soon. How could you possibly know the government wasn’t working so early? IBCF went on vacation for a week and you feel we need to amend the Constitution already, after all we just went through getting here. Please think about it.
Nothing that important is going on such that we couldn’t wait a week for IBCF to get back. Please. It wouldn’t be fair to IBCF, or anybody who left for a week. Think how you’d feel. He asked us not to do anything “really rash” and I think we can manage for a week. After how many times this thread has been dead, two PMs present should do just fine.
Do you see what I’m saying? Could you have a little patience?
Red-tailed HAWK
229-Also, the HoC really needs more members! It can’t function well with just me! Let’s not create new positions until we’ve filled the other positions!
231- Well, he’s proposing the issue and voting yes on it in his capacity as a HoC member. So he is following the Constitution, he’s just being hasty about it.
232- All citizens are members. The problem is that most people who are citizens don’t visit this thread much.
Bookworm makes an excellent point. The PMs are doing just fine. They aren’t babies, and this isn’t rocket science. They don’t need someone to “back them up,” at least not yet. Give it some time. There aren’t enough people on the entire blog to have a decent HoC, even if they all came. And you know they won’t, few of us are even interested in the adventures. Most are more into the writing, or just the random and romance threads. A working HoC is way more important than Vice or “extra” PMs. The HoC represents the people we’re serving, and they’re to keep us from getting too out of control too. I really want to work on getting people for the HoC. It’s not fair for Bookworm. And remember, we have several GM positions to fill! IBCF going away for a week is the least of our worries, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t jump into this Vice PM business now. Give the government some time to see if it can work.
Red-tailed HAWK
233-And there aren’t many citizens. How many people on this blog can say they’ve read a whole Museica thread? Or even posted on one. Frankly it’s best to read all of them if you’re going to get into Museica seriously anyway. I have. It saves you time later.
Red-tailed HAWK
Yikes. Looks fancy. I think I may want to avoid big constitutions unless I run out of other things to do.
WEREAS,
Museica Has Many unique animals and
WEREAS,
many of these animals are Endangered, and
WEREAS,
Wung Populations are springing back up,
I, The Man For Aeiou, Here by propose to the HoC LR2:
LR#2:
1. an Endagered Spices List shall be created
2.the List will start out with the following animals:
Wungs
Nice HPBs
Blue Bunnies
Pielor Bears
3. Animals maybe added to the list by a vote of the HoC
4. the animals shall have the same rights as wungs do acoroding to LR#1
235- That’s an excellent point. *winces*
Perhaps all the “losers” of the PM elections could make it their business to vote on bills that are passing through the HoC. That would enable them to participate in a way that is necessary to Museica!
237- Could you please spellcheck your bills? While the idea of an “Endagered Spices List” is funny, I think you really meant this:
WHEREAS,
Museica Has many unique animals and
WHEREAS,
many of these animals are Endangered, and
WHEREAS,
Wung Populations are springing back up,
I, The Man For Aeiou, Here by propose to the HoC LR2:
LR#2:
1. An Endangered Species List shall be created,
2. The List will start out with the following animals:
Wungs
Bunnius Nicegoodius
Blue Bunnies
Pielor Bears
3. Animals may be added to the list by a vote of the HoC,
4. The animals shall have the same rights as wungs do according to LR#1.
239- Thank you! I was in a hurry when I posted that.
240-You’re welcome!
127- You may be experienced, but try the spelling “Experience” instead of “Expirince”.
231- Yes, I know and understand Article VII. However, it says
“1. This Constitution of the Republic of Museica, Is a living Document, and May be Amended and Changed As Such.”
“2. An Amendment may be proposed by any Citizen of Museica. It may be Passed with any of the following Votes:”
Yes, I fully constitute as a member of Museica. Therefore, I have the right to bring up a major problem (In my views) in the Constitution. If we don’t change the Constitution, then our society will continue running into the lows, meaning they will no longer have the rights everyone should have. One thing; the PMs should serve their people, not vice-versa.
ZVX, please stop. You are purposefully attacking people on this thread who have been working in Museica for months and years to get it to where it is now. You have no right to attack anybody, certainly not those who have been taking their time and energy and working on making Museica what it is today. Stop undermining those who have been here for ages and have some consideration. There is absolutely no reason your issue is such an emergency it has to go through right now. You didn’t vote on other things that went through the HoC, but somehow yours is more important. It would create more positions, which you clearly want. There are many open positions. And you’re not taking them.
Stop picking on people. You have no right to correct TMFA when he makes a spelling error. You are intentionally trying to agitate us, I can see that. Well you can stop now. We aren’t going to tolerate people bossing us around. Your opinion doesn’t overrule those of everyone else. If you have a concern, please raise it properly and calmly.
We just got this Constitution in here. How could we be running into the lows when we haven’t run into the highs yet? Have you read all of the Museican threads? If you had you’d realize we are far more active than we have been.
The point of Museican Government is it functions well with few people in the government. If you don’t like something as basic as the major government layout, sorry! You as a citizen have no right to completely overhaul the government because you don’t like it as it is. It’s working so far, we just got it in here. Give it some time!
I am not being rude. I am telling you the truth. You will not come in here and tell us we’re all wrong and we must do it your way. If it aint broke, don’t fix it. You can propose things, but you can’t propose something to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. That would be altering the government to match your personal preferences, and that would violate the Constitution. The Constitution states that you cannot change it unless it proves insufficient or counterproductive. It is neither, yet. Keep your idea in your head until there is a time to need it.
Now, what can we do? The way to keep the thread running is to do things. But properly, following the Constitution, of course. I think we should do anything legal besides amending the Constitution. It’s new, and unless we use it we can’t know if it doesn’t work, right? Then if we use it for a while and find it isn’t working, we can amend it. We can’t possibly have found a problem with it when we haven’t done anything yet!
Red-tailed HAWK
I’m back! What happened while I was gone? Anarchy? Revolution? No?
242- The election’s over, ZVX.
243- Woah, cool down, HAWK! Anyone has a right to suggest a change, including ZVX. But we don’t have to agree with what they say.
ZVX may of course attempt a Constitutional Amendment, and no one here can stop him. Please note, however, that it seems unlikely to pass in these circumstances and that it would probably not be wise. If he wishes to have a position where he can attempt to correct the constitution’s flaws, I suggest he becomes a Chief Justice! There he will be in a position to examine the constitution more closely!
Also… LR#2 is now in voting in the HoC, and shall be until 10 PM, Boston Time. It can be found in Post 239. (Note: It is TMFA’s bill, I just spell-checked it!) I vote: Aye!
244- Exactly. I’m not trying to criticize, I’m voicing my opinions.
243- For HAWK, I think that it could be considered “Picking on people” to randomly set up a post that disses all their ideas; that’s not exactly what Museica should be about, is it? A couple citizens really angry at each other (not to say I am angry with you, HAWK.) without giving any thought to what the other suggests.
No, I’m not trying to change the Government to fit my personal views. Would I run for Prime Muser if that was what I was trying to do? No, because I wouldn’t get anybody to vote. There’s no point in it. We’re backtracking and forgetting the Constitution; there’s no need for that. We may disagree, HAWK, but we don’t need to be blinded by each other’s separate views and ways to we see could improve on our Government.
I can understand you being protective of Museica, which would be considered normal. I’m just trying to point out possible flaws.
245- How exactly do you become a Chief Justice, Bookworm?
246- HoC will appoint you.
243- I’m fine with people spell checking my bills.
ZVX, you are missing the point. Please read my posts carefully. Claiming I am not giving your ideas any thought is rather hypocritical, I feel. And it isn’t true. I have given a lot of thought over to your idea. I feel it is not the right time for it, though. I have offered you could suggest it later at an appropriate time. However, you continue to blame me for things I am not doing in the least, seemingly in an attempt to distract from the point of this discussion.
You are claiming there is a problem when there is none. You said:
“the PMs should serve their people, not vice-versa.” Well, if you have so many positions every citizen holds one, the point of this government is ruined! You must not have been present when POSOC proposed this plan. It was such that there were very few positions so that only those best suited to the job would be elected. If you double the number of positions, there will be no competition! It will be like the old days before there was a Constitution! People will vote themselves into office, without a soul competing.
We don’t have enough people to fill the GM, CJ, and HoC positions. Nowhere near enough, and you think we should double the number of PMs, thus taking away more people from the positions that need to be filled? We’re in the lows because there aren’t enough people for the positions. If it was that there were more people than positions, we would be in a very good position: There would be competition, people would have to fight to get a position, and they would have to live up to high standards or they would be pushed out. There would be great interest in Museica, there would be things to do.
As it stands, the government works very well. If one of the PMs does not do ens job, they may be replaced in two weeks. In this way we avoid having power-grabbing people holding powerful positions and being able to abuse their power, with nothing to stop them, no other person threatening to take their position.
Until it is proven there is a problem, the Constitution cannot be amended. There can’t even be a VOTE to amend it, because the supposed cure will actually make the problem worse. We need more people, not more positions. I think you all can agree with that.
Red-tailed HAWK
Hey, who said we were AMENDING the Constitution? We were SUGGESTING amending the Constitution–in other words, it was an idea, not a Governmental matter which needs to be cracked down on.
Anyway, I know that there isn’t enough people to fill CJ, GM, and HoC positions. If we put our effort into getting more people, we could become a strong, Museocratic, society again. There just isn’t enough people.
LR#2 has passed at a vote of 1 to 0. Would anyone else take the time to vote? Also, ZVX, would you like to become a CJ?
250- this is bad. one person voted?
251-Yeah. WE NEED MORE MEMBERS!
I’m back.
Would some one give me a quick summery of what’s happened since the elections?
253-ZVX suggested an amendment which was disagreed with by a large majority; TMFA wrote two enviromentalist laws that passed the HoC; we still have not yet filled up the GM positions; we have NO CJs; and I am the only HoC member who votes on anything!
Wait, I’ve been gone for a bit. Sorry.
Wait, what the cake happened here?
255- What always happens on these threads. two or three people control the goverment for weeks on end because no one posts.
If another law is not put in tomarrow, I’m writing one.
Well, um, can I be GM of Bo if the position is not already taken?
257- Maybe. you need to be elected.
I rest my case.
This government is far too dead to introduce any new positions. When the HoHoC is forced to pass laws with one vote, and a PM is forced to write laws because nobody else is present, you know you have a problem. Almost all of the officials we have are active, the problem is we don’t have enough people to fill all of the positions!
What can I do to help?
Red-tailed HAWK
259- vote on the next bill in HoC. Draw POSOC to this thread.
Alert! Alert! HAWK, report to the Ships’ Logs thread immediately!
260-Sorry TMFA, I can’t. I’m GM of Chad. I don’t think we have one single citizen right now! And to think that the CJ positions and many of the GM positions are still empty!
Whatever shall we do? We must do something to regain interest in Museica fast. Strong interest, not just brief bursts of energy when there are open positions. We need dependable people who will stick with it.
IBCF! To the Zemtee thread! And, I say, I gave up my chance at becoming Science PM, and now you aren’t doing anything with the position!
Red-tailed HAWK
262- We have people. Me, You, POSOC, IBCF, etc.
263-Well, they all hold public office already. We need people who DON’T already hold a position. We have many positions to fill yet, and there’s the HoC, on which none of us may serve!
Red-tailed HAWK
264- true.
This is scary. TMFA and I have been discussing the lack of new volunteers for days now. The posts before were mainly those of people asking what has happened, and they did not return after summaries were made.
This is also rather pointless, but I feel SOMETHING should be said on the Museica thread once and a while.
Anyone want to trade? Any citizens out there to vote on bills in the HoC?
ANYONE OUT THERE???
Red-tailed HAWK
266 – I’m here, but there’s nothing to do!
250- Very much! Thanks, Bookworm, may your library grow long and prosperous.
Kokonilly- First, you are a citizen, correct?
268-She’s GM of Urania.
We should have an election to elect the remaining GMs and the CJs. An election might regain interest in Museica! What do you think?
Red-tailed HAWK
has any one else had problems posting things? we keep on having “this page may not be displayed” come up*growl…* sorry we have been gone so long. Now to business we don’t have ambassadors do we? should we? Badrang is traveling back to air to look in on his mage school (which is finished by the way) he also wishes to talk with TMFA about adding sylph to the list. although not yet to a endangered level they are on a surprisingly fast decrease and may be extinct within the century! And the decade for museica! Sylphs need high stone mating grounds with large quantities of mica and strong winds (feathers help to) a couple specially designed National parks might do the trick. 248 249 etc …eek! my great and powerful god RTH is flaming! *blood sacrifice(s)* *calm down* *calm down…*
269 – Elect for what?
What is the Museican currency called? (Piepoints, spdzk points, etc. are different).
270-We have ambassadors. Well, we don’t have any at the moment, but we can and ought to.
I did not flame. Flaming is when random personal insults and rude names are thrown at somebody in rage. I disagreed with ZVX and pointed out all of the many problems I feel his plan would cause in Museica. If you can’t tolerate some discussion, you can’t live with this kind of government!
I was forced to continue posting all of the problems so ZVX would stop pushing something that anybody could see would be disastrous for Museica at this moment. We need to address the issue of too few people, not too few positions.
If I sounded harsh, it’s because that’s just how very bad more positions for Museica right now would be. I care about Museica and don’t want it to collapse–I don’t think you can fault me for that. It’s a lot more than you can say about most MBers, some don’t know we exist over here!
There are 3 CJs we need to elect plus some GMs! I only see three GMs here, so we could need as many as six, maybe fewer.
271-Oh, do you not know the terms GM and CJ? A GM is a Governing Muser, you’re GM of Urania. A CJ is a Chief Justice.
271-I do not know. So many have been proposed, I do not know which one is considered the official one.
Where is POSOC? In three days he will lose his position as Arts PM! GAPAs, have you seen him anywhere?
This is terrible! He can’t lose his position so soon! I hope he comes back.
Red-tailed HAWK
271- I think it’s the muse,
270- All animals to be added to the list should be told to the HoC, to recive a vote.
why is it I’m the one to keep these alive ever time?
273 – OH, run for those. I know the terms, it’s just I was confused about how we need more GMs.
I think the currency should be piepoints.
274-I know, and I try to keep this alive! But we need more people.
275-Piepoints could work. There are lots of them and people know about them, even outside of Museica. I’d be interested in donating several thousand to the bank to get the economy going if that would help. Or I could give a bunch to everybody and then they could be used and could help keep Museica alive.
Red-tailed HAWK
276 – I already have a bunch (617, to be exact) and it’s not fair that you’re automatically the richest person in Museica already, so you should either donate money to people or donate a chunk to the bank.
277-Pardon me? I created Piepoints, and I’ve been trying to give them away and people won’t take them. And that’s what I said, I’ll either give some to the bank or some to each Museican citizen.
I suggested that, so I don’t know why you are repeating me and saying that’s what I should do because I have a lot of piepoints. I already said that’s what I’m doing! I’m confused.
Red-tailed HAWK
Muserland Constitution
Preamble
We, The People of Muserland, in order to preserve the thread and remain a beacon of creativity and imagination in the Museworld, hereby ordain and establish this constitution to serve as a legal system for governance and guidance. We have embarked upon this endeavor to showcase the might of Muse and all its lands, a safe-haven for the hardworking, creative, and curious individual.
•The laws and procedure set forth in this document were built to act as solid ground for the oft tossed residents of the World of Muse, and are not binding unless accepted as so.
•As a government functions for the people, one cannot function without the people. Unity in action will bring prosperity.
•If these doctrine set out are insufficient or counter productive to the Free Republics of Muse, they shall be re-worked by the people, with common consent. The Power is the People.
Article I.
»Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a House of Commons, which shall consist of all citizens of Muserland, excepting those who hold other public office.
»Section 2. Any sentient being who has posted on at least one thread relating to Muserland, read at least one thread of the Chronicles of Museica, and who has been in residence upon the Blog for at least thirty days, shall be considered a citizen of Muserland, and thus eligible to sit in the House of Commons.
»Section 3. The House of Commons, once established, shall select from among its members a Head of the Commons, who shall have the responsibility of overseeing the voting carried out by the House. No citizen may serve as the Head for a duration longer than six months.
»Section 4. Any member of the House of Commons may propose a new legislation at any point in time. If the proposal receives a second, it shall be put to the full House. The duration of the voting time shall not exceed a week. At the end of the week, the Head of the Commons shall count the votes and act according to the general consensus. If the ayes/w00ts exceed the nays/mehs, the bill shall be made law: if vice versa, the bill shall be removed from consideration.
»Section 5. The House of Commons shall hear any and all citizens’ grievances. If a plaintiff or defendant is unsatisfied with the verdict, en has the right to appeal to the Chief Justices. The House of Commons has the power to bring charges against any elected official, be it Prime Muser, Governing Muser, Chief Justice or Head of Commons. In the case of the Justice, a temporary Justice shall be elected by the House to try the defendant in case of an appeal to the Justices. In the case of the Head of Commons, a temporary Head shall be elected to preside over the case.
Article II.
»Section 1. The executive branch of The Nation of Muserland resides in three supreme elected officials, known hereafter as Prime Musers, abbreviated to PMs. PMs must visit Muserland threads at minimum once every two weeks, else they will be declared absent and the Head of the House of Commons may cast a ballot in their place. Prime Musers cannot serve for a duration of longer than six months, and are elected directly by the citizens of Muserland. The voting may not last more than two weeks, and should be limited to one unless less then ten votes have been cast.
»Section 2. These PMs are elected by popular vote, and must meet the following criterion:
•A sentient being of high moral standard who has pledged en’s interest in the prosperity of Muserland (A2§3)
•Been established as a citizen of Muserland (see A1§2)
•Read and understood the entirety of the Constitution of Muserland
»Section 3. PMs must take the following pledge upon election: “I do swear at this time to uphold the standards set forth in this constitution and its preamble, to work to strengthen the Nation of Muserland and advance its standing within the cosmos of MuseBlog.â€
»Section 4. Prime Musers are elected to carry out duties concerning the laws and lands of Muserland, most notably forming agencies intended to enforce rule or decree set forth by the House of Commons. Prime Musers hold emergency power in times of chaos.
»Section 5. Prime Musers may hold votes among themselves to veto legislature, the vote must be unanimous, which will then be reviewed by judges for constitutionality, and re-voted upon in the HoC. Laws vetoed will then pass only with a two thirds majority in the HoC.
»Section 6. Executive power over the transportation system, the space program, and the various industries shall be vested in the Science Prime Muser.
»Section 7. Executive power over the museum system, the public library system, education, and the arts shall be vested in the Arts Prime Muser.
»Section 8. Executive power over the medical system, the national park system, agriculture, the police force, and the social services shall be vested in the Life Prime Muser.
»Section 9. Decisions relating to the domains of more than one Prime Muser, or relating to the international situation, must be voted on by the entire Council. A two-thirds majority (2 ayes/w00ts) is required to put the decision into action. The dissenting PM has the power to call a special vote of the House of Commons upon the decision. If the House vetoes it, it will not be put into action.
Article III-The Judicial System
»Section 1: The Judicial Power of Muserland should be vested in one Supreme Court made up of 3 Chief Justices. The Chief Justices try cases which have been tried already by the House of Commons, but the verdict is challenged. Also, the Chief Justices try all cases where the accused is an Ambassador, PM, or the HoHoC.
»Section 2: All cases are tried in this manner. Each Case has a Defendant, who may defend themselves or use a Lawyer. Each Case also has a Prosecutor, who is a Lawyer. Of the Three Justices, one runs the case, one decides the Verdict, and one doles out the punishments.
»Section 3: The Chief Justices also have the power to interpret the Constitution, and will clear it up for the House of Commons when it is disputed. In short, the Chief Justice’ s job is that of the Arbiter, solving disputes and judging cases of great import.
Article IV- The Powers of Muserland
»Section 1: The powers invested into the Nation of Muserland by this document, and it’s rulers, are applicable only to the lands of the Nation of Muserland and it’s territories.
»Section 2: Land may be acquired by the Nation in exploratory voyages that have proclaimed their intentions to secure uninhabited territory for Muserland.
»Section 3: Foreign lands wishing to join with Muserland as part of the Republic must hold elections, two thirds of which must pass in favor. Lands wishing to ally will only need the formal approval of the leaders of that land.
»Section 4: This constitution has been built and written as a universal document, in hopes that all law and procedure necessary in the Museiverse can be found within it’s pages. All citizens of lands, domestic or foreign can claim the rights and freedoms as their own (As found in A5§2) .
Article V- Rights of the People
»Section 1. The House of Commons shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of comment upon any Museworld thread; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances.
»Section 2. A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the inhabitants to keep and bear Pies shall not be infringed by any governmental party, House of Commons, Prime Muser Council or otherwise, with the following exceptions:
a. By special order of the Chief Justices as penalty for a violent crime involving pastry. In this instance, the duration of the ban from pies shall not exceed Two Blog Years (Two Real Months).
b. By order of the Great And Powerful Administrators.
»Section 3. No Soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
»Section 4. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
»Section 5. No sentient Muserland citizen shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of Pie War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against enself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
»Section 6. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial by the House of Commons, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against en; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in ens favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for ens defense. En shall also have the right to appeal the decision of the House and go to the Chief Justices.
»Section 7. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
»Section 8. The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny others retained by the people.
»Section 9. The powers not delegated specifically to the federal government are reserved to the people.
»Section 10. No governmental agency shall make any law discriminating against citizens on the basis of gender, race, belief, orientation or species.
Article VI.
»Section 1. Executive power over purely internal affairs of the various provinces shall be held by Governing Musers.
»Section 2. There shall be Seven Governing Musers, one to govern each province, to wit: Ice, Fire, Earth, Water, Air, Plasma, and Shadow.
»Section 3. Any act of a Governing Muser may be vetoed by a majority of Prime Musers, a majority of the House of Commons, or a majority of the Chief Justices. A veto may be overturned by a majority of Governing Musers.
Article VII
»Section 1. Marriage in the nation of Muserland shall be defined as the legal joining of two or more individuals who are committed to each other. This joining shall take the form of an official Marriage License signed by a government authorized individual, two witnesses of voting age and sound mind, as well as all the individuals entering the Marriage Contract.
»Section 2. In order to obtain a Marriage License, individuals must not be of close relation. In addition, the individuals must take a course on anger control.
»Section 3. If a married individual wishes to marry an additional individual, all individuals currently in the Marriage Contract must sign the Marriage License. All individuals under the same Marriage Contract shall be treated equally by law.
»Section 4. No distinction in law shall be made on the basis of sexuality, gender, polygamy, polyandry, race, political opinion, origin, or religion.
»Section 5. No persons shall be forced into marriage against their will.
»Section 6. Prior to adoption, fostering, or birth all individuals who shall be legal guardians of children shall take an elementary course in child care and first aid.
»Section 7. Children and spouses shall not be subjected to emotional, physical, or sexual abuse.
»Section 8. Children shall have the right to a name, nutrition, housing, recreation, medical services, education. Nor shall they be denied a wholesome environment intended to foster individual growth free from prejudice or intolerance. Whenever possible, this environment shall be with the child’s birth family. Should the family not be financially able to supply for their children they shall receive sufficient government aid.
Article VII
»Section 1. This Constitution of the Republic of Muserland, Is a living Document, and May be Amended and Changed As Such.
»Section 2. An Amendment may be proposed by any Citizen of Muserland. It may be Passed with any of the following Votes:
a)Two of the three Prime Musers must vote yea on it, as must two thirds of the House of Commons and five of the Governing Musers.
b) A single Prime Muser, three quarters of the House of Commons and six of the Governing Musers must all vote yea.
c) The three Prime Musers must vote yea, three quarters of the House of Commons must vote yea, and three Governing Musers must vote yea.
d) A yea vote from all three Prime Musers, a majority of the House of Commons and six of the Governing Musers must be obtained.
»Section 3. An Amendment passed in any of the four aforesaid methods shall be regarded as Equal to Each other and to the original Constitution.
Hello, I suppose you all know me (?) but could someone inform me on what this thread ia about?
280- We run a country
278 – Yes, I do repeat things a lot, but I do it to emphasize it was a good idea.
oh
I’ve been away from this thread for a long time… what’s going on?
284- I passed a couple of laws, and the things dieing again.
276- PiePoints could work as currency. I would be more than willing to develop a Museica paper PiePoint as well.
Many of us have a large amount of PiePoints; If you do NOT have many PiePoints, or none at all, then maybe people could have a beginning fund of 200 from the Bank of Museica.
Establishing a good bank is important, as if we are to continue making Museica work, we need a strong money system.
GMs, PMs, and CJs should be able to pull Points from the bank IF NEEDED for a Govermental matter. Their limit of amount of Points would be 1,000, as the bank shouldn’t be drained of it’s money. Effectively, Museica is ruled controlled completely by Prime Musers. Therefore, the Prime Musers MUST NOT take anything from the bank as PERSONAL PROFIT.
Furthermore, PiePoints will come in two forms: the paper PiePoint and the coin PiePoint. There should be a PiePoint, a Quarter PiePoint and a Cent PiePoint. Four QPps to a PiePoint, 24 CPps to a QPp.
All citizens HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY MONEY. However, you must be MBer Age (9-30 yrs–GAPAs excepted, of course.) to write a check, hold a blogger card, or transfer money electronically.
All electronically transferred money is surveyed by the bank. The bank has the right to STOP A TRANSACTION if it feels the transaction is illegal or suspicious. The Chief Justice will examine this to determine what is to be done: if the bank wrongly accused a Citizen of Museica, the Bank MUST allow the transaction to continue. Failure to comply by the Bank will result in serious consequences.
How’s that?
286- we had currency from the first thread. the mooser. let me find it:
113. Koko du Pelle | August 11th, 2006 at 11:17 am
(105)Our currency system is:
One Mooser=1 dollar
One Blooger=10 Moosers
One Guppa=10 Bloogers
One Myooz=2 Guppas
re: Lack of members of the HoC
Instead of nine GMS, perhaps Museica should be divided into three regions of three sections. There would then be only three GMs, and other positions could be filled.
For example, there could be one region made up of mimi, chad, and crraw.
At this point, I would like to submit myself as a candidate for Chief Justice since I find the lack to be most alarming. If accepted, I will abdicate my position as GM of Kokopelli. If my above resolution is accepted, that should not be an issue.
288-I don’t know. I think we’ve gone far enough giving national control to three supreme officials. I think the GMs should stay the same; it’s nice having the positions, I think it’s good having internal affairs controlled by individual people. For each province.
I also don’t think taking six GMs away would solve our people shortage. Only a few (maybe only three) GMs are even present, so we’d have far fewer positions in the long run and no extra people in the short term. Perhaps temporarily it can be understood that three GMs will manage three provinces each until there are enough people to fill the spots. I’m sure there eventually will be, and we’ll wish we had those spots.
We could have each current GM look after the three provinces named after the muses of one of the categories of the Prime Musers!
Science (Chad, Aeiou, Urania),
Arts (Kokopelli, Crraw, Bo), and
Life (Mimi, Feather, Pwt).
One problem: Kokonilly’s Urania. Hmm.
It’s a possibility. We could rearrange the names above to make it work. It’s a short-term fix until we get more people.
Red-tailed HAWK
I think that a more drastic change than 288. is needed. I believe that we must abolish the positions of GMs entirely, in order to have a working HoC, and a working government!
Wait! New Idea! Perhaps we could make the GMs members of the HoC as well. Then we would have enough HoC members to have a working HoC. Also, the people left could become CJs! How does that sound?
290-What about my idea?
I like my idea. Then only three people would be needed for the GM positions until we have more people. We wouldn’t have to alter the Constitution, we’d just temporarily have fewer GMs than normal. We need GMs to govern the provinces! There’s a lot to be done there.
Red-tailed HAWK
289 – What’s the problem? IBCF’s PM of Science, and I’m Urania.
It seems to me we need a CJ desperatly since we seem to be debating on an interpretation of the constitution. Does anyone object if I take on this position?
292-I’m saying, if we were to use the PM categories to decide which GMs would cover which other Provinces until we have more people, I couldn’t cover AEIOU and Urania as you’re Uranian GM.
293-No, we need you as Kokopelli GM. We’re debating what to do about the lack of people and how to limit the number of positions temporarily so we can have a working HoC. We need you to cover Kokopelli and two other Provinces. We don’t need CJs now, so let’s ignore them until we have a HoC and GMs.
Red-tailed HAWK
293- I’m running for CJ. No worries.
294- also, I think the HoC apoints the CJs.
295-There are three.
Anyway, I do not think we should elect CJs before GMs and certainly not before we get a decent HoC.
Red-tailed HAWK
297- see 296
The HoHoC appoints CJs.
Based on this discussion, I would say we need CJs very very badly. And while there are ideally three, one at th very least is necassary.
Since we lack people so very desperetly, I could run two positions until they could be filled. Essentially I would make a Zyviva A and Zyviva B who would function differently and do different jobs.
No offense, but isn’t it simpler to make GMs have an HoC vote as well? I really think that might work better!
301- Simpler, maybe. but that still leaves us without CJs.
273 We would point out that the Constitution put forth is problematic on account of it knitting museica and muserland to closely together. different nations have different needs and this one should be tailored to fit muserland. we personally don’t see any major differences needed but I think it should be looked in to by older mbers. what are the major differences between museica and muserland cultural,environmental,the people involved? 278 sorry…your just genraly harsh no mater what you do…it just comes out that way *laugh* but thats what we love about you….can we be a ambasidor of some thing?
301- Hmm.
301/304- I support giving GMs the right to vote in HoC. I also think we need CJs. And yes, I intend to keep pushing that point
“Maybe, you need to be elected” So when can we start voting for that?
Wait, if you were already a GM before the election, and you lost it. Are you still a GM, or do you have to be elected again?
If someone was GM and then ran for PM and lost, they are still GM.
And we need CJs. Because all of this is interpreting the Constitution.
Trying again. The blog is really slow and strange at the moment (for me anyway) so I apologize if this is going through multiple times.
CJs ought to be elected. Why would the people who analyze our constitution be appointed by one person? That’s not how our government works.
Zyviva, I understand you want the position badly. But Museica isn’t about handing out positions anymore. Anyone can see we need GMs more than CJs at this moment. We can deal with any minor Constitution misunderstandings ourselves until things are moving. Until then, the provinces, the places that make up Museica, are falling apart. Why have everyone so busy with national matters and other such things when Museica itself, not ideas about it, not all of the politics behind it, the land itself is collapsing.
We have virtually NO citizens who don’t already hold a position. We need you to watch after three provinces for a while.
So please, Zyviva, if you truly are looking to help Museica, please remain a GM and watch after two extra provinces too.
I hereby declare Feather and Pwt to be under my management until we have a significant influx of citizens.
Red-tailed HAWK
308- I don’t necassarily want the position for myself. It simply bothers me that no one holds it. Especially given the current circumstances tat require so much constitutional interpretation.
But since Crraw and Bo seem to have both passed into my hands, I must goand deal with all the dratted paperwork that results. Or I may make my aids do that and focus on some of the real issues confronting the provinces.
Well, I’d like to run for CJ. It would put me in a position where I could review everything that Museica is in the middle of right now, and see how I can help.
308- they’d be elected by the House of commans. there needs to be more people.
311- There aren’t more people. Our government is loosley based on four branches (HoC, CJ, PM, and GM) and one branch doesn’t exist.
Oh- and I’m putting in a request for a federal grant to form more roads between Bo and Kokopelli.
312-Well, essentially two branches don’t exist. The HoC is just Bookworm, and as nice as he is it really isn’t a full HoC. And he wants people in the HoC, obviously.
There are only three GMs, covering for three provinces each.
Two of the PMs barely post enough to maintain their positions.
It’s a great government, but when you only have a couple of people actively posting it can be difficult to get things done.
You see why I wanted you to stay GM, Zyviva? I think we ought to maintain the faintly active branches and slowly build up the others as volunteers arrive.
Red-tailed HAWK
I’m covering for three provinces? Since when?
313- I know…. It still bothers me though.
314- I thought you were Science PM. The provinces weredivided roughly along the same catagories of PMs, but the PM doesn’t run the provinces.
Speaking of which, you could give me the money requested in post 312.
315- no, IBCF! is Science PM.
WHERE AS,
the health of museica is very imported, and
WHERE AS,
many people don’t have health insurence,
I, The Man For Aeiou, Life Prime Muser, Here by put forth to the HoC to vote on:
LR#3
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE
1. all people of museica will have health in insurence provied by the goverment.
2. this is valid where ever.
315 – Whaaaa? I’m just GM of Urania.
317- In that case, you run three provinces as of a handful of posts ago.
316- What sort of health insurance?
are there sufficent health care personnel to provide this type of coverage?
TMFA, I thank you for your significant support of Museica. You are just about the only other person here holding up Museica constantly.
Zyviva is coming fairly regularly now, which is nice. Kokonilly comes sometimes too.
I don’t know what is wrong with POSOC and IBCF. After POSOC designed the government saying it was highly resistant to collapse (which I believed) he himself disappeared after being elected.
I know people are busy, but come on! Particulary people who are active elsewhere on the blog. It’s true I haven’t seen POSOC at all just recently, but it would be nice if he would show up. I’m a little GM and I’m here helping hold up the entire country from absolute ruin.
Red-tailed HAWK
319- The whole of museworld, and somewhat, museverse, is on my sholders.
320-Oh dear, my poor dear friend TMFA! Do put some of it on my shoulders, a full 50% if necessary. That’s too much for anyone to be forced to carry!
I’m not kidding, by the way, I’m here to help!
Red-tailed HAWK
321- Get the Seahawk back up, and go to PPP!
322-Okay!
Red-tailed HAWK
319- I do try to be on regularly. Below is a summery on the three provinces under my direction. I appologize if anything is outdated/incorrect.
Kokopelli- For the most part this is a highly developed area. The economy is largely industrialized, with pie baking a major industry. Because of the capital’s location in Kokopelli, there is a fairly steady business in tourism. With the recent near-collapse of the federal government, however, tourism has dropped significantly. Crime is slightly higher in Kokopelli than in other regions, with illegal dangerous pies being a large problem. However, social pie-throwing is incredibly common and most Kokopellians are large supports of the right to eat and throw pies. They largely blame illegal manufacturers and black-market deals for the high crime rate.
The region would like to see a stronger and more stable economy, as well as more roads to allow it better access to raw materials. Stabilizing the federal government is also important. Environmental laws are a mixed issue, with business owners seeing them as unnecessary invasion and residents new the national park seeing them as an ever-growing necessity. Universal health care is generally supported, although citizens fear long wait lines and bureaucratically inefficiency.
Bo- The bulk of the economy is agrarian, with a focus on pie ingredients such as wheat and fruit. Nautical pursuits are also important, given Bo’s many ports and large lake (Lake Kokopaqua). However, shipbuilding is not a healthy industry and most equipment is bought from Chad. Sailing is mostly seen as a means to transport goods, although a few leisure ships are in business. Schools are central to social life, and are frequented as often as is feasible.
The region would like to see more money go into research that would help it survive adverse weather conditions. Schools should be more accommodating to a farmer’s life style and more nontraditional methods are necessary. Universal health care is met with mixed reactions. Some Boites feel that since they are poorer than other citizens they would benefit greatly. Others think that since they are healthier than other regions they would be paying more than they would receive.
Crraw- This region is home to the most intellectuals. School is given the highest priority, and many graduates take on theoretical rather than practical work. Despite this trend, medical doctors are fairly common. The Great Library is a source of great national pride. The economy is largely based on information and information management. This takes the form of books, websites, schools, etc. Almost all advancements in the field of metadata have arisen in this region.
The region would like to impose stricter regulation on pies, which it views as mostly “horrid, book-wrecking, flying gooâ€. Universal health care is almost unanimously supported. Doctors feel this would give them better access to patients and health data workers feel a feasible system could be worked out on a nationwide scale.
Cake. three more days for POSOC and IBCF. This is not good.
Nope, it’s not.
Before i left for a few days I summarized my provinces’ status. What’s up in the other ones?
325-326 this is why we should have vpm’s so people don’t have to lose there positions! posoc -ibcf come back… strawberry pies ready….
In my understanding, the Constitution protects us from most current issues. According to the Constitution, PMs must visit this thread at a minimum once every two weeks. If they don’t, then we elect a new PM. Two weeks is the maximum amount of time we can and should wait before it becomes impractical to continue hoping they will return to support Museica.
Also in my understanding, PMs are elected to serve the people and their country. If they cannot or will not, even if simply due to a lack of time to blog, they cannot properly serve their people and their country, and so a new PM ought to be elected. Not to say the old PM couldn’t run again if and when they return, but keeping them as official PM and electing a VPM to serve in their place doesn’t seem like a good idea to me. Why should the PM keep ens position if en is not fulfilling the required duties? The PM positions are serious, not to be thought of as an honorary title to be kept for no good reason. While we want to allow them to keep their positions for their full terms, it may prove impractical at times, and I don’t think we should have to keep track of VPMs.
A PM should value ens position enough to visit this thread and this thread alone if there is only time to visit one thread at a time. Also, two weeks is very generous in my mind. It should be possible to say something in those two weeks.
But, I do hope POSOC and IBCF are okay!
Got to run!
Red-tailed HAWK
I’m back. Have I lost my Prime Musership? If so, that’s OK, I’ve been unable to keep up with this thread for some while.
Errm…could someone tell me what this is??
329-I think your term might have technically expired, but I have no objection to your continuing in the post if you post more frequently in the future.
330- We run the land of Museica (and sometimes Muserland, although we haven’t dealt with that lately. we’re having enough problems with one country– let alone two!)
Museica is divided into provinces, with each province named after a muse (kokopelli, urania, etc.) Each region is run by a GM, but because of a staff shortage each GM currently runs three provinces. (I’m GM of Kokopelli, but am also running Bo and Crraw)
Welcome to Museica! Feel free to imput your opinions about how the country ought to be run. As an MBer, you are part of our citizen legislature (the House of Commons) and have a voice anda vote.
Can someone please tell me what has happened? I haven’t checked here in a while.
331) Awesome….
I’ve always wanted to have been on a legislature. When do we have elections?
332- we’ve bemoaned the fact that there aren’t enough people on this thread. GMs govern 3 provinces each, and will continue to do so until there are enough people. In 324 I summerize the state of my provinces and would like other GMs to do the same. TMFA proposed a bill or universal health care, but it seems to have been dropped from the agenda. I think that covers the important bits.
333- There are no elections to be in the HoC (house of commons), every citizen is automatically a member. If you are intrested in another position, say so. chances are you’ll be running unopposed anyway. The Constitution is in posts 4 & 8 and I suggest you read it. Post 239 contains the two bills passed by the HoC. 316 contains a proposed bill.
329- not yet.
IBCF! Seven hours! at 2:02 am MB time, You will loose your post as Science PM.
329-No, you have miraculously arrived just in time! Tomorrow it would have been two weeks exactly.
332-Not much. We’ve basically tried to keep the thread alive.
Please, everyone, if you can get on the blog, you can get on this thread.
333-As soon as we get some more people like you! We need more interested active citizens.
~We need to elect 6 GMs, or Governing Musers, who run the provinces, named after the muses.
~We need to then elect three CJs, or Chief Justices.
~And, we need people for the HoC, or House of Commons. You don’t have to be elected for that, so you are already a member of that, Zonka. When somebody creates a new law to vote on, you can vote yes or no and have your say in the government! How cool is that?!
Red-tailed HAWK
Oh, phew.
Our government’s most pressing problem is lack of staff. A new thread may not solve the problem completely, but it will at least draw people here. Can we have one?
Important News Updates:
From Kokopelli:
Unemployment is on the rise do to a lack of financial discipline and a nonuniform currency. Some accept pie-points while others declare them to be newfangled fiat trash. Various companies are declaring bankruptcy.
From Bo:
With Kokopellian industries in trouble, there are fewer costumers to buy their products. Huge crates of blueberrys are rotting in the store house since Blue Beard Pies Inc. declared bankruptcy and no other buyers have appeared.
From Crraw:
The Medical Data Commision reports that with various innovations in administration and testing, the projected cost of universal health care could be reduced by 7%.
Yes please!
I have created a brief summary, and will attempt to gain first post on the next thread to avoid unnecessary confusion.
That is, if the GAPAs should happen to grant us a new thread!
Red-tailed HAWK
[(337, 339) Request granted. –Admin.]